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@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 01:52 PM)

50/60's Twilight Zone, the 80's, millennium and recent ones also, all are in The Twilight Zone.

@  wonko the sane? : (28 October 2020 - 08:03 AM)

Twilight zone. Duh.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 October 2020 - 07:52 AM)

Um.... what did I log in on...

@  Paladin : (28 October 2020 - 06:17 AM)

have they actually gotten worse than the one where Homer gets paralyzed by a spider and has to learn to communicate through his farts?

@  unluckiness : (28 October 2020 - 05:53 AM)

It's only fitting that SImpsons have halloween specials since it's been a shambling corpse of its former self since its teens.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 04:12 AM)

No I caught one of the latest one with parodies of Stranger Things which admittedly is horror series but Heaven Can Wait and The Shape of Water are Fantasy films. Plus implications of the characters being sociopaths or twisted has become a norm these days.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 October 2020 - 02:58 AM)

Which probably adds to the "reasons they should just stop making more of The Simpsons" pile.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 October 2020 - 02:58 AM)

You make it sound like The Simpsons becoming less repetitive is a bad thing.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 02:48 AM)

Remember when Simpsons Halloween specials parodied horror movies and would have the characters make off out of character remarks like "we chucked donuts at a old man for kicks."? they don't and can't do that any more.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 October 2020 - 08:00 PM)

Tired of the same old Halloween stuff? Check out Tubi. The depths of the schlock available is astounding.

@  Donocropolis : (27 October 2020 - 11:51 AM)

Not sure if it's news or not, but I'm at Ross right now and they have Masterpiece Movie Ironhide for $24.99

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 October 2020 - 12:45 AM)

Final Fantasy 7 Remake’s Best Buy exclusive deluxe version is available for $10 as one of today’s daily deals

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 October 2020 - 08:50 PM)

We can play the "Is it a real headline or an Onion headline" game.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 October 2020 - 08:22 PM)

It's weird to see how much of Larry Hama's "satire" from the old GI Joe comic has no longer become satire in the past few years.

@  Maximus Ambus : (26 October 2020 - 11:29 AM)

Funny how 2020 gave me new appreciation for Dawn of the Dead 1978.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 07:43 PM)

@Fenix Twilight Sure. Just not a good one.

@  Fenix Twilight : (25 October 2020 - 04:02 PM)

@Sukoshiko Well his clothes left an impression on you didn't they?

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 October 2020 - 06:09 AM)

I just read "Tesla Cybertruck" like AC/DC's "Thunderstruck", now it won't get out of my head, so I inflict it on all of you as well.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Tesla Cybertruck: amazing or just silly looking? I can't decide.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:24 AM)

Weird question: I had to deal with a guy today... I'm not exactly up on modern fashions... or even archaic fashions... But this guy... Tuxedo Jacket and shirt, studs in all the button holes except the bottom one, blue jeans, and cowboy boots... Take a moment to imagine that get up. And this was to a business meeting, trying to impress someone. What look is that? Who on earth would dress that way? (I mean on purpose)

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:04 PM)

I think the few up here were lost to bad placement, poor weather, and the usual language trap.

@  TM2-Megatron : (24 October 2020 - 04:25 PM)

There are 5 spread around southwestern Ontario, all run by the same company. I've only been to the one in my area, but it seems to do good business even in non-pandemic times. On long weekends, when they do triple features, there's a normally a lineup to get in Friday and Saturday nights

@  Telly : (24 October 2020 - 01:51 PM)

there been one outside of my town for as long as ive been alive at least. its gone through its share of owners and periods of being closed down, but its been open for the past decade at least

@  Otaku : (24 October 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Bias from personal experience, but drive-in theaters are nearly extinct.  I grew up near one but it went out of business in the late 80s, and was torn down and replaced with some other business by the early 90s.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 07:47 AM)

Out here, I mean. Couldn't comment on their popularity in place where they actually exist.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:44 AM)

I wouldn't know. They've only come back into vogue with the social distancing from the plague, and while some places have made an effort to shoestring the places together, it's all largely too distant to be accessible.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:46 PM)

I'd hate to see ours replaced by condos. They're a great way to spend an evening, whether with family or on a date. And they've never been as common in Canada as the US, so we cna't afford to lose as many

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:45 PM)

Largely they were either poorly placed or bought out and torn down to be replaced by something other than over priced short term parking. Mostly condos.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:14 PM)

I guess your winters are worse, so they have a shorter operating season. Drive-ins in the Toronto area can usually operate until early or mid-December; maybe even into early January if there's no real snowfall, and open up again sometime in March.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:13 PM)

THere's really only 1 left in the entire province?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Ha! It's probably faster for me to drive to your drive in than to make my way to the only one left in quebec.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Fortunately we still have a drive-in theatre that's exempt from the closures about a 10 minute drive away

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Theatres around here are closed again for at least another couple weeks (wouldn't be surprised if it's extended by another month or so, either), but that's what they've been doing here as well. Playing the old classics

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 October 2020 - 02:36 PM)

I got Earthrise Megatron, he's better then I thought he'd be though Netflix Megatron is still tops.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:44 AM)

The original Rocky movie is also showing. May go next weekend. That’s how you get people back in the theatres - show the old classics every adult loves.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 10:35 AM)

They did a limited run showing of it up here too, back when the theaters were open... red zones suck.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:13 AM)

The original Back To The Future is showing in the Odeon in the UK now. I think I will go see it tomorrow.

@  Donocropolis : (23 October 2020 - 05:51 AM)

It was either the Bumblebee or Cliffjumper. Can't remember the colors.

@  Kalidor : (22 October 2020 - 06:43 PM)

What did it look like?

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 01:34 PM)

I swear I remember getting the Happymeal G1 minibot as a child, but I live 2.5 hours from St. Louis, which is the only place they apparently came out. It's possible that I got it on a family vacation, though, as we went to Six Flags pretty often.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 October 2020 - 01:07 PM)

Conversely, I had the Gobot helicopter from Wendy's and I was absolutely convinced it was an actual Transformer.

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 08:13 AM)

I used to rubber-band Hot-Wheels style construction vehicles together and pretend it was Devestator.

@  Bass X0 : (21 October 2020 - 05:26 PM)

When I was about four years old, my parents bought me Bugbite and tried to tell me it was Bumblebee. I was not yet a fan of Transformers, but I knew that wasn't Bumblebee. I didn't even have the real Bumblebee at that time.

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2020 - 01:39 PM)

It would come with two soundtracks: the eighties classic and one featuring dubstep and the VAs are popular Youtubers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 12:13 PM)

But yeah, reading it: I came off as a bit of an ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:52 AM)

I just couldn't think of worse music than disco...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 11:35 AM)

What were you trying to imply with the mocking sarcasm, though? Nobody suggested that '80s music was any more "of it's time" than '70s music.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:18 AM)

I said that disco wouldn't fare much better with the same context: media is property of it's time; biases, culture and limitations are all inherent in that. Some stuff can be brought forward because of an inherently timeless nature or the simplicity with which it was made but lots of media is a time capsule of the period of when it was made.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 08:46 AM)

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, or what you even think I said.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 08:11 AM)

Yeah, cause disco would make the transition so much better...


When was the last time we saw a "Truly Classic" story come out of the big two?

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#1 Dave Zero1

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 02:05 PM

Lately I've been racking my brain trying to remember when was the last time we saw a story hat was truly classic come out of Marvel or DC. I realize "truly classic" is a subjective term at best, but I'm talking about something "outstanding" something if the Calibur of "Dark Pheonix", "Crisis on infinite earths", "demon in a bottle", "Killing joke" etc...

I'm having a hard time thinking of anything that could fit in that category from the past 17 years. Of late they like to tout their crossover events as larger than Life but does that make them "must reads" for someone coming in 5 years after the fact?

Hose of M: Wasn't bad but was generally a lesser Age of Apocalypse.

Civil War: Was hitting all the right notes but dropped the ball at the last second.

Secret invasion: Great concept but poorly executed.

I guess I'd dosent help that after 2000 things switched to decompressed storytelling, and editorial shakeups every 2 years.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 02:44 PM

One More Day, but for all the wrong reasons.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:06 PM

Tom King's Vision will be a 12-issue evergreen graphic novel, if they've got any damn sense.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:08 PM

All Star Superman? I reread it at least once a year and still love it. And it only requires the barest prior knowledge of Superman.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:09 PM

I think Hickman's Secret Wars pretty much pulled it off perfectly. I'd also put his FF run that built to it at least in contending. I'm sure there are some folks that would do the same for his Avengers that directly built to it.

Annihilation and what followed gave us the modern Guardians of the Galaxy and was really very good.

Ooo! Planet Hulk absolutely qualifies imo.

Fracton's Hawkeye is less of an event but is absolutely a big classic story.

-ZacWilliam, I'm sure there are a few others that were Classic level good, but yes the "Event" comics of modern times have been very bad far more often then they've been good.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:15 PM

Gotta agree with Aberration and say All-Star Superman.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:33 PM

Annihilation was exceptionally well-written and structured, it's no coincidence that cosmic Marvel took off once again in its wake. Planet Hulk was a lot of fun, as well.

There were more than a few events that I loved as concepts, but found lacking in execution. The idea behind the danger of learning the Watcher's secrets deserved to be awesome on the page, but it really wasn't. I thought Secret Wars was fascinating and I loved the art, but the resolution felt pretty flat.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:51 PM

Brian K Vaughn's run on Runaways, I think that could be considered a classic.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:06 PM

Morrison's Batman run.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:09 PM

Pretty much all of Hickman's Marvel work is a hit for me.


Al Ewing's writing something really special in Ultimates 2.


I'd say one of my favorite storylines that I'd rank among the greatest runs is Jason Aaron's Godbomb storyline in Thor. Dear LORD that was good.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:27 PM

I've loved everything Jason Aaron's done with Thor and Slott's run on Silver Surfer has been great 


but mark me down for celebrating all 17 issues of Patsy Walker aka Hellcat!

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:06 PM

I'd agree with a lot of the titles already mentioned.  And I'll add a few:


Geoff John's Green Lantern run is probably a classic.  After Blackest Night it gets a little overlong, but the ending is solid.  


His DC Universe Rebirth one-shot might also fit...but that'll probably depend on how the story goes forward.


His Booster Gold run is also one of the better takes on the character.


Remender's X-Force is also probably up for contention.  Rock-solid run, anyway.


Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory was pretty good...VERY Morrison though.


Nextwave Agents of HATE is just a lot of fun.


Slott's Spider-Man run is probably there.  At least maybe the Superior parts.


Superior Foes of Spider-Man was a fun book.  Really deserves to be better known.


Slott's She-Hulk is also pretty good.


Supergirl Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade is probably one of the best things to come out of DC's kids line.


Ms. Marvel probably counts, if only for expanding the target audience a little...for a time...


Gail Simone's Secret Six is held in pretty high regard.


Brubaker's Captain America is definitely on the list.


Palmiotti and Gray's Jonah Hex is probably the only contemporary Western that's been well received.  


Doctor Thirteen Architecture and Mortality is a criminally underrated book.


Fraction's Iron Fist is similarly a really good book.


Paul Cornell's Action Comics/Lex Luthor run was pretty good.


Incredible Hercules was a great book...kind of fell apart at the end, but still very good.


Prez was a really good book...it ended too soon.


I hear good things about Peter David's X-Factor.  Haven't gotten around to that myself, though.


52 was the best of the DC weeklies...maybe the best US weekly ever.


Scottie Young's Oz books (if they count) are also really good adaptations of the books.


...And there MUST be something truly great from Deadpool, just going by the number of titles that came out over the years.  No idea what, though.  Most of them are fine but middling to me.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:16 PM

I was trying to think in terms of an isolated story arc based on the OP, but could only think of complete creator runs - but it occurs to me that that's because "runs" these days tend to actually be a one huge story planned out in large part, a real "mission statement" by a creator delivering their mapped-out take on a character. With that in mind I'll loudly echo any of the Hickman suggestions already mentioned, and I have to throw out Keiron Gillen's Journey Into Mystery, too. Superior Spider-Man. Brubaker's Cap, at least up to "Reborn," before it fizzled out after. 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:23 PM

In this context, I'd definitely think of something like 'Dark Phoenix' and not 'Claremont's entire X-Men run', so I'm not sure I can narrow down something like Brubaker's Cap or Simone's Secret Six to a run of 12 or fewer issues that's especially good.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:37 PM

I enjoy Geoff Johns' run on Green Lantern, but I think creatively it peaked at the Sinestro Corps War.


I almost suggested that story here, but considering it takes elements from Emerald Twilight, GL Rebirth, Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, Reign of the Supermen, and probably some other stuff I'm forgetting, I'm not entirely sure if you can call it a classic that stands on its own.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 08:31 AM

The age you are when you read/learn about this stuff probably impacts what you consider "classics".

An overrated story that you may have first read about in a magazine(or a wiki, if you're younger) may feel like it has a more a place in history than something read and enjoyed as an adult while it was coming out. 

I can tell I'm definitely starting feel this when it comes to Transformers media.


Of course the Big 2 also spend a lot of energy chasing past glory.


Maybe it's because I was still new to actually reading super hero stuff at the time, but I liked Spider-Island quite a bit.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 09:38 AM

I try to be as objective as possible when trying to judge if something is classic. Remove my personal feelings/biases towards it as much as possible and try to look at it from as many external factors as I can.

-is the story good.
-what did it bring to the table upon publication.
-what do other fans think of it in general.
-is it perpetually in reprints in comic shop.
-can it be easily found in a comics section of a regular book store.

For example, I personally never cared for Morrison & Quietly's run on X-Men. However I do respect the hell out of it for what it brought to the table.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 08:05 PM

I suppose it reaches back into the 90's, but Morrison's JLA run is one of my favorites.

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 12:57 AM

Maybe it's because I was still new to actually reading super hero stuff at the time, but I liked Spider-Island quite a bit.


I thought Spider Island was a fun romp in the most part. Not quite what I would consider classic but it did get me to buy both the single issues as well as the Trade later on Comixology.


I will also put my hand in for Planet Hulk. I mean there is going to be two adaptions of it here within half a year with the animated flick and it's influence on Thor:Ragnarok


Also the entire run of Superior Spider-Man was gold. Loved the concept after adjusting to the "It's not Peter" phase. I'm ashamed to say that a good portion of the post OMD Spidey is actually pretty good. I'm still irked beyond belief that OMD even happened, but I wouldn't have Carlie Cooper, and Anna Maria Maraconi most likely otherwise. They aren't MJ but they are great intelligent female characters. I just hope Carlie gets to come back soon. I could see her get drawn into the Scarlet Spider book.


As for DC I tend to greatly favor the Sinestro Corp War. and Identity Crisis. I know the latter gets flak for some character assassination and making the heroes look less heroic but I found it as a more real take on just how far it has to go to remain a superhero with a secret identity.

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 06:34 AM

Pleasent Hill had an old school feel to me.

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