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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:38 PM

With Goyer attached, what we're gonna get is Stubble-Man slomo-swinging swords in the rainy night. Hardest of passes.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 09:15 PM

The best you can hope for with this is a proper origin movie. Take the same basic approach as the 200X cartoon pilot movie, but with a) Skeletor actually attempting to obtain the power of Grayskull, and b) the Skeletor-as-He-Man's-uncle element worked harder for greater personal stakes and drama. Don't feel the compulsion to stick in every ridiculous thing just because you can - limit it to what makes sense for the story. Avoid the "dark hemisphere/light hemisphere" thing. Simplify down the Randor/Keldor familial relationship; no half-breed stuff, just have Skeletor only turn blue as a consequence of the magic that saves his life after acid gets thrown in his face. Don't complicate the lore early on by mentioning Marlena is from Earth. Don't just have Orko hanging around - introduce him partway in, once Adam is learning to use the sword, using the MOTUC idea of him as a guide-and-guardian appointed to watch over He-Man. Play him as the Alpha-5 to the Sorceress's Zordon, who can leave the castle while she can't. Don't have Cringer talk; that's okay for a cartoon but you're not getting away with it in a film. This stuff CAN be simplified down to work in an isolated two-hour narrative with room to expand, but I'm certain they either won't (in which case you get "Green Lantern") or they'll simply TOO far and lose it.

 

But really, the time to make this movie has come and gone. They needed to strike while the iron was still hot from Transformers 1. The nostalgia cycle has moved into the 90s now, and He-Man is literally the earliest possible thing from the 80s you could make. It's just too late.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 09:44 PM

EXTERIOR A ROCKY CLIFF - NIGHT, HEAVY THUNDERSTORM

CLOSE on edge of cliff. 
The very manly, dirt-encrusted hand of He-Man rises into view, 
coming down hard on the muddy ground.  Then, we see his grim, 
serious face, still covered in dirt  and blood appearing as he pulls 
himself up.

            HE-MAN 
     (shouting manfully)
          Teela! Teela!!

He charges at the vaguely foreign warriors. One by one, he swiftly
disarms two of them, illuminated by lightning as the pouring rain
pounds down hard. A third charges at him, curved sword raised in savage
blood-thirst

       VAGUELY FOREIGN WARRIOR
       Die, unbeliever!

He-Man brutally kicks the dark-skinned savage in the balls, throwing
him back several feet. Before the assailant can recover, He-Man steps
on his sternum, audible crushing several of his bones.

       HE-MAN
       Not today.

He raises his sword of power, gleaming white in the moonlight
and, with one swift motion, decapitates the attacker. A little smile
flashes across his face before he turns and sees…

Teela is lying in the mud, sexily dying in a puddle of her own blood

      TEELA
      (coughing blood all over her perfect breasts)
       A…. – Adam…

   HE-MAN
    Who told you that name?!?!?!?!? 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 10:08 PM

Surely a talking Cringer is non-negotiable?! Didn't we already live through that voiceless nightmare?!

 

#LetBattleCatSpeak

 

I mean, I see where you're coming from, but... I don't like it! If GOTG can have a talking raccoon--!


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 10:15 PM

Oh oh oh it is just so easy to pounce on this when we know absolutely nothing -

 

"David Goyer"

 

Uh, carry on, then. Keep up the good work, everyone. (this is the same guy that said She-Hulk was a "pornstar" created specifically so her cousin Bruce would have someone to bang, right?)

My hope really flourished, then died the moment I saw his name. Ew.



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Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:10 AM

Dunno how you top Frank Langella as Skeletor and Meg Foster as Evil Lyn.



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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:17 AM

Say what will about the 80s movie but yeah those two along with Man at Arms was perfect IMO


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:37 AM

Surely a talking Cringer is non-negotiable?! Didn't we already live through that voiceless nightmare?!

 

#LetBattleCatSpeak

 

I mean, I see where you're coming from, but... I don't like it! If GOTG can have a talking raccoon--!

 

I'm good either way, but yeah, of all the things seen on Eternia and beyond, a talking tiger is where people draw the line?

 

If I'm against it for any reason, it's because I'm skeptical they'd get the effects right to at least make it look anywhere near natural.

 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:42 AM

Maybe they'll go in that "humanoid Battle Cat" direction we saw recently, like Bravestarr's horse or something.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:44 AM

At BEST, he should only gain the power to speak when he turns into Battle Cat.



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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:12 AM

Maybe they'll go in that "humanoid Battle Cat" direction we saw recently, like Bravestarr's horse or something.


That would scare the purists even more, I'd say. No talking Cringer is fine since it's already happened (in 2002). But he should be there. The movie didn't have him, right? There was also no Cringer in New Adventures?

I'd rather skip the origin if it's possible. So they could cram all the Masters and Skeletor goons they can. The first movie didn't even start with the origin. Or even have Adam.

Is there ANY Motu comic or arc that can readily be adapted? I read the mini and... 12 issues of the new series. The mini was Adam running around, having amnesia and forgetting he was He-Man. Could that work? Search for He-Man (when he's just under their noses).

Goyer... Um. I was kinda ok ish with Blade 2 and Batman Begins. Maybe he's improved his craft?

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:54 AM

You can't get wrapped up worrying about pleasing the "purists" of a 30-year old property that hasn't had any significant media attention in half as long.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:49 AM

But really, the time to make this movie has come and gone. They needed to strike while the iron was still hot from Transformers 1. The nostalgia cycle has moved into the 90s now, and He-Man is literally the earliest possible thing from the 80s you could make. It's just too late.

This rings so loud it's deafening.

 

I feel like it really shouldn't be that hard to get this right. You throw in your magic and your sci-fi, you have your scary skeleton dude and your prince who transforms into a superpowered barbarian... you probably do something unnervingly wretched with a CGI Orko...

It's pretty hard to get this right.  Hypermasculine barbarian stuff is viewed as dated homoerotic camp in pop culture these days and you also have to overcome the fact that most people will have to get past the goofy name "He-Man".  Then you have to factor in that He-Man doesn't even mean anything to anyone who's grown up in the last 15-20 years so the nostalgia factor isn't really there, and that the existing '80s MotU fanbase is microscopic, so they can't support it.

 

Mattel missed the boat hard, and they barely had a chance a decade ago when it was right in front of them.  I'm betting the He-Man that comes out of this will be virtually unrecognizable to existing fans.  Hell, I bet the name "He-Man" won't even be uttered, he'll just be "Adam" and then unnamed when/if he powers up.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:20 AM

Following the 2002 origin, instead of He-Man, they could call him as the spirit/soul of King Grayskull, watching over them and arriving at a time of need. They just don't realize that he has a host body in Adam.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:37 AM

Please god no.

Why it really can't be any worse than the first one.  

I mean that shit was horrible


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:11 AM

 

Please god no.

Why it really can't be any worse than the first one.  

I mean that shit was horrible

Haaaaaaaaaah...  Yeah, yeah it can.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:56 AM

I'd rather skip the origin if it's possible. So they could cram all the Masters and Skeletor goons they can.


And that be the downfall of the movie, if they want to be sucessful they need to play it smart, have the followers take a back seat role, just don't kill them off, only defeat them and let them escape to fight another day and that way they can develop the charaters, I think what the movie needs in the way of core charaters is about six, three on each side and that includes the main villian and hero while the other two are the surport or in Skeletor's case, people to blame for his failure.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:13 PM

I'd push it a little further, but not much. On the villains' side, Evil-Lyn (magic), Trap-Jaw (machines), and Beast Man (animals). And on the good guys' side, Teela and Man-at-Arms (because duh), with Stratos (air), and Ram-Man (land). And flesh out the ranks with generic troops; Robotos and Eternos soldiers for the goodies, beasts and machines for the baddies.



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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:49 PM

Evil-Lynn and Beastman for magic and classic henchman-ish-ness but 2002 Tri-Klops for mechanical genius (plus skilled sword fighter). Trap-Jaw is suppose to be a war tactician, not that they really show it.

Teela (skill) and Man-at-Arms, yes, but Orko has to be there for magic. They wouldn't need brute strength since He-Man is there already.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:54 PM

Yeah I think Evil-Lyn, Beast Man, Trap-Jaw, and Tri-Klops are a must.  Merman is obviously just as iconic if not more so than any of the ones I listed before.

 

The heroes should have Teela, Man-At-Arms, Stratos, and perhaps Man-E-Faces.  Change up the ethnicities of some of the heroes too, so it's not white person central.


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