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@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?


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#41 c0ldfire

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:53 PM

On the flip side, some of my friends working in the comic book industry and being moderate Muslims are pissed with Syaf and very worried about the future of their career. Getting a job will be even more difficult now, thanks to one rotten apple.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 11:27 PM

Well... The local Islamic fundamentalists are rallying around Syaf, citing Marvel's actions as "hateful" and "intolerant", and "it's expected because it's full of Jews."

No word from Syaf on the matter at the moment.

 

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 01:59 PM

On the flip side, some of my friends working in the comic book industry and being moderate Muslims are pissed with Syaf and very worried about the future of their career. Getting a job will be even more difficult now, thanks to one rotten apple.

This just might be the worst part of all this. Those minding their own business might get swept up in the backlash.
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 05:55 PM

And he just keeps digging...

 

https://www.bleeding...smissal-marvel/



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 07:03 PM

Well, let him dig. His career's ruined. Justice is served.

Hopefully Marvel was able to save face in all this.

And now that I know that they're taking the X-Men back to basics, I may just have to get one of the corrected printings and maybe just see if I care to keep getting this comic after being out of comic collecting for a while now.
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 10:12 PM

I had a mental image a little bit ago while musing on what's happened.  

 

The person responsible for the artwork changes the jewelry store sign so that it reads "I [heart] Jewelry" along the long edge, with the traffic light coming in at an (in)convenient location. The end result is that the store sign looks like "I [heart] Jews". 

 

I doubt it'll happen, but it would be a final "hug you" to Syaf. 

 

 

edit - http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/x-men-gold-controversy 

 

Know Your Meme's got a page up on the controversy now. 


Edited by Fortress Ironhold, 12 April 2017 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 12:00 AM

So only Jews read X-Men? Who knew? Sure makes me feel extra spesh as the only non Jewish X-Men reader in the world. I'm an army of one, Mr Syaf!

Fact is, without our Muslim X-Men fans, we'd never have known about all this stuff in the first place. So if Syaf wants to blame anyone, he shouldn't be blaming Jews, he should be blaming his fellow Muslims, because THEY were the first to notice, and the first to tweet it to the world, outraged at what he'd done.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 12:32 AM

So only Jews read X-Men? Who knew? Sure makes me feel extra spesh as the only non Jewish X-Men reader in the world. I'm an army of one, Mr Syaf!

Fact is, without our Muslim X-Men fans, we'd never have known about all this stuff in the first place. So if Syaf wants to blame anyone, he shouldn't be blaming Jews, he should be blaming his fellow Muslims, because THEY were the first to notice, and the first to tweet it to the world, outraged at what he'd done.

Yeah; Syaf seems to be quite missing that point. 

 

I've not seen anything which says he recognized that it was his fellow countrymen and other Muslims who contacted Marvel to warn them. He's just fixated on blaming anyone he thinks is Jewish. 

 

That being said, I do wonder what impact this all has had on the issues going on back in Indonesia that he was talking smack about. 



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:52 AM

His beliefs are so strong that he bravely accepted work from DC, Panini, Marvel and other companies run by non Muslim leaders, drawing material that wouldn't be acceptable under a hardline interpretation of the faith, happily cashing every cheque rather than taking lower paying work that's more compatible with his beliefs.

 

I suspect he's going to resurface in 2-3 years, trying to get work under a pseudonym because he realises being a martyr isn't going to pay the bills.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:07 AM

What a meaningless existence for a person to lead. They ... talk to people before hiring them, right? That's still a thing? We do that here, but maybe it's a dying art.

Marvel has let some pretty nice talent walk out the door, this guy's work is as dismal as his world view.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 12:00 PM

No word from Syaf on the matter at the moment.

Well, there was this:

https://www.bleeding...smissal-marvel/


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 03:18 PM

and has reiterated that he believed his messages were peaceful, and that he has no hate to Christians or Jews.


“But Marvel is owned by Disney. When Jews are offended, there is no mercy.”


Why is it so hard for some people to understand there's a problem with themselves?

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:44 PM

Well, there was this:
https://www.bleeding...smissal-marvel/


Yeah, Syaf drank the Kool-aid. What a shame.

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:01 PM

This is the baseball bat image I mentioned, one of the few that is still open to debate.
 
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Here's Marvel's corrected version.

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 04:19 PM

Well, Marvel did do the right thing getting rid of the bad seed and correcting the art. And it is nice that they're taking the x-men back to basics. So I may actually pick this up. I don't want the company to be punished when they actually do try to do the right thing after something like this.
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Posted 16 April 2017 - 11:17 PM

So it's gone from a drive to a popup?

But this COMPLETELY changes the outcome of the play! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE TO ALL MUTANT BASEBALL FANS

I DEMAND JUSTICE

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 10:13 AM

At the end of the day, the revised piece is simply a better panel from an artistic standpoint. While we know of his ulterior motives, it's simply considered poor composition to cover a focus character.
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