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@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.


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#1 Jason

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 03:08 PM

What was the longer name for the Autobots that I Optimus Prime said they were in the movie with Shia LaBeuf? Also, do the Decepticons have a longer name? The last Transformer I bought was Windblade. I bought that one because of Supergirl. At first I got the big version of Windblade because I didn't know I would be going to a store that would have a smaller version, and I didn't even know there was a smaller version. For some reason they don't talk about the Transformers on the packages like they used to, but I'm pretty sure this is a female Transformer because of the picture on the package. I always like to play with Transformers when I'm watching TV, and I wanted one that turns into something that flies. I was playing with Spinister for the longest time, but my dad used to use technicalities, and he used to say that helicopters don't fly technically. I noticed Scourge when they reintroduced the Headmasters that are now called Titans, but I never liked the Headmasters enough to get one. I prefer Transformers that have their own heads.
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Posted 22 February 2017 - 03:16 PM

Hi Jason.

I relocated your topic to the general Transformers Discussion forum.  It seems to be a more fitting location for this.

 

Windblade is indeed a female Transformer.  There is some really cool fiction about her both in the comics as well as in shows such as Robots in Disguise on Cartoon Network and the online series Transformer: Combiner Wars.

 

I too am not fond of my Transformers having other robots forming their heads, but I have to admit that the Titans Return line has been a lot of fun.  The toys are neat and the playsets make it fun to interact with the little heads.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 03:30 PM

"We are autonomous robotic organisms from the planet Cybertron."

"But you can call us 'Autobots', for short."



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:54 PM

"We are deceptively ignoble constructed organisms from the planet Cybertron."


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 05:33 PM

Aw, don't confuse the poor kid, he's going to go off thinking that's a real thing....

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#6 Maruten

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 05:57 PM

You know, I did actually have that thought and meant to come back and edit the post, but forgot. Yes, my bad, not helpful. 

 

But it all becomes more confusing if I delete the post and it looks like Copper's talking to LV, so here we are. :)


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:01 PM

I also like Spinster and my view of Helicopters is if its off the ground unaided under its own power thats flying


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:17 PM


My feelings on helicopters is that TFs have antigrav to let them fly and so the copters and jets are only ever pretending to fly under the same physics and propulsion actual ones do anyway.


-ZacWilliam, my other feeling on helicopters is "ow ow ow! Don't stick you fingers in the spinning blades!"
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#9 Chris McFeely

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:29 PM

Hi Jason! The Decepticons haven't ever used a longer name to refer to themselves, but there have been a couple of different stories about where their name comes from. In one, Megatron said that the robots in charge of Cybertron called him a liar and a deceiver when he began to fight against them, but because Megatron really believed what he was saying, he decided he was proud to be a "deceiver," and called the robots that followed him "Decepticons" from that. In another story, before he turned evil, Megatron tried to warn the rest of Cybertron that the government was telling them lies by using the slogan "You Are Being Deceived," which led to the Decepticons basing their name on it.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM

and Decivedicons is not as cool as Decepticons


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#11 Maruten

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:29 PM

The real world origins of these terms must be interesting. "Decepticons" is a bit out there... they're more about being evil than telling fibs, right? And "Autobots" tells you virtually nothing useful about the group's inclinations. Do we know whether the faction names came from Hasbro or Budiansky?


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:44 PM

I was playing with Spinister for the longest time, but my dad used to use technicalities, and he used to say that helicopters don't fly technically.

Flight is one those words that has several definitions, some of which are similar but subtly different:
https://www.merriam-...ctionary/flight

"A passing through the air or through space outside the earth's atmosphere" describes what helicopters do, but "an act or instance of passing through the air by the use of wings" does not.

Of course, that first one also describes what a brick does if you throw it, so...

#13 Chris McFeely

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:44 PM

The real world origins of these terms must be interesting. "Decepticons" is a bit out there... they're more about being evil than telling fibs, right? And "Autobots" tells you virtually nothing useful about the group's inclinations. Do we know whether the faction names came from Hasbro or Budiansky?

 

I think it's pretty easy to work out the real-world origins for the names - they're really just rooted in the "robots in disguise" concept, rather than the factions' ideologies. The Autobots turn into automobiles, and the Decepticons deceive you with their disguises. Simple as! 


Edited by Chris McFeely, 22 February 2017 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:48 PM

I would never have gone to "automobile"... that makes sense I guess. Old people, man. 


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:49 PM

A rotor is a wing!

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:50 PM

"A passing through the air or through space outside the earth's atmosphere" describes what helicopters do, but "an act or instance of passing through the air by the use of wings" does not.


Well, if you REALLY want to get technical...

https://en.m.wikiped...wiki/Rotor_wing

Of course, that first one also describes what a brick does if you throw it, so...


And it would be more than reasonable to write or say "He hurled the brick; it flew through the air and smashed into the window."

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 08:57 PM

Yeah, you can definitely say the brick took flight, it just wasn't under its own power.

G1 Megatron, on the other hand, moves through the air under his own power but does not have wings, rotor or otherwise. Because gravity is for the weak.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:18 PM

Technically, Kryptonians don't have wings. If anyone would have known whether helicopters fly or not, it would have been my dad because he used to be in the Air Force; and he used to teach a course in aerodynamics or something long before I was born. I'm the youngest of seven kids. Would any of the Transformer cartoons have a chance to having Windblade in them? There's Transformers: Rescue Bots, Transformers Prime Beast Hunters, Transformers Prime, Transformers Animated, and Transformers: Robots in Disguise. I watched an episode of Robots in Disguise last night, and I know that one won't. Transformers Prime was the same as Transformers Prime Beast Hunters according to what I was able to bring up with my remote. My dad told me that if you throw a frisbee, it'll fly when I asked him.
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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:25 PM

Windblade is in the current Robots In Disguise cartoon:

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Windblade_(RID)

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:26 PM

Yes, she is in Transformers: Robots in Disguise towards the end of season 1.




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