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@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:20 PM)

Unless I decide to do a voluntary Saturday shift.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:20 PM)

I can stay up 2 or 3 AM, sleep as long as I want, do my chores, go to work, and look forward to two days of weekend, every week until the end of the year.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:19 PM)

Working permanent late shift is awesome, despite the weird looks my coworkers give me.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:18 PM)

Especially now that I have every Saturday off.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm so glad I have a guaranteed five-day work week.

@  Paladin : (25 May 2018 - 01:58 PM)

first day off in ages & I wound up baked. and not in the fun way...

@  Telly : (24 May 2018 - 10:22 PM)

one thing im worried about if i get it is im gonna love it and then ill be lost in gundam models lol

@  Telly : (24 May 2018 - 10:21 PM)

ill have to keep an eye on that one

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

https://www.gundamplanet.com/hg-ms-06-zaku-ii-type-c-c-5-gundam-the-origin-ver.html

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Bandai just released a new Zaku in the Origin line, looks like the new definitive at the HG price point

@  Liege : (24 May 2018 - 12:42 PM)

@Telly try the HG rather than the RG, there are a ton of great Zaku variants that are doable for beginners

@  RichardT1977 : (24 May 2018 - 11:02 AM)

If there is an economic system, somebody will find a way to abuse it for personal gain.

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

@unluckiness I believe you are correct, but I didn't feel like looking it up so I didn't want to mention it. If that is the case, it isn't "capitalism" anyway. Maybe crapitalism (crony capitalism).

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:46 AM)

Like richard said, it's not inherently less healthy than table sugar. It's unhealthy in how it's in everything, leading to increased calorie intake that we don't even realize.

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:43 AM)

Also you try organizing a boycott of Coca frigging cola and see how far you get. Not to mention all the other processed foods that also make use of it that aren't as notorious for it

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:42 AM)

I believe the US government subsidizes corn farmers to such a degree that corn is stupidly cheap, making corporations lean towards it far more

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 08:41 AM)

@SHIELD Agent 47 If HFCS was "caused" by capitalism, all it takes to solve it is people NOT buying it. As is, products that use actual sugar and countless alternative sweeteners are available. At least for big brands like Coca-Cola. ;)

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:40 AM)

And if doing so means that eventually is longer and less filled with complications, well, that junk food had better be the best junk ever

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

@Paladin Quality of life. So many things I enjoyed as a kid have caused (or at least aggravated) health issues later in life. By later, I mean it started in my mid-20's. XP

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

THere's a difference between having some and constantly stuffing your face with calories.

@  Paladin : (23 May 2018 - 08:33 AM)

we all die eventually. why not enjoy the stuff that tastes good in the time we have?

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:26 AM)

HFCS is never good for you any way. It's nothing but monosaccharides basically

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 May 2018 - 11:32 PM)

*sigh* Wouldn't be that much of a problem if not for Western capitalism.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2018 - 05:45 PM)

The only thing that makes HFCS more unhealthy than sugar is its lower cost.

@  Telly : (22 May 2018 - 03:20 PM)

looking at a video review and seeing all the tiny parts makes me think twice about it anyway

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2018 - 03:04 PM)

You should probably ask in the Gundam thread.

@  Telly : (22 May 2018 - 02:52 PM)

is this any good? i dont know about gundam models but want a good zaku https://www.amazon.c...0C7D2WQ09A9A9MZ

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:33 PM)

Dammit, and I was just about to hook up this Coke IV directly to my bloodstream, too. Killjoy :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 May 2018 - 12:28 PM)

Recommendation: if you're going to fill your body up with junk food, try real sugar instead of HFCS.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:10 PM)

Not so much that it's worth the extra money to buy it in glass bottles all the time (I think the most you can get is a 6-pack of Coke in glass bottles around here, and it's signifcantly more expensive than 6 plastic), but every once in a while it's nice to drink from an old-fashioned bottle

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:08 PM)

Personally, I find they also tend to taste better out of a glass bottle compared to the plastic ones used most of the time

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2018 - 11:27 AM)

None that I know of, but it's a neat fact. Sodas in glass bottles stay carbonated.

@  Paladin : (22 May 2018 - 11:00 AM)

what vending machines still use glass???

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2018 - 10:54 AM)

And it won't lose carbonation if it's a properly sealed glass bottle.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:51 AM)

The drink is safe to drink for a good while after, the expiration date seems to apply to how "good" it will be. Usually the carbonation gives out before anything starts growing or it becomes unsafe to consume

@  Paladin : (22 May 2018 - 10:31 AM)

out of curiosity, how solid are the expiration dates on soft drinks?

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:25 AM)

Sure does feel like they are shoring themselves up against losing a significant source of revenue...

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:25 AM)

So I guess Hasbro is going to be making Overwatch toys now

@  Otaku : (19 May 2018 - 02:17 PM)

@TM2-Megatron Yeah, it is like @TheMightyMollusk says. The catch is that usually means they can contain beef, and I confirmed it by pushing my luck. XD So... yeah, if going to the theater was about watching the film, it might be worth potentially resting on the balls of my feet while technically sitting in the chair, but put it all together... and I just wait to watch it at home. Oh, and ticket prices, always ticket prices.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2018 - 10:24 AM)

woot woot! Korean barbeque for dinner!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 May 2018 - 05:51 AM)

It's meat scraps. Whatever's left over from cutting up the more choice cuts.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 May 2018 - 11:26 PM)

Well, the hot dogs Cineplex has (pretty much our only big theatre chain) around here are quite good, but I have no idea of the composition, and honestly, it's probably better that way.

@  Otaku : (18 May 2018 - 10:01 PM)

@TM2-Megatron In my case, shouldn't risk the hot dogs, either. Maybe if they are guaranteed to contain NO beef (can't digest it anymore >_<).

@  Waspinator : (18 May 2018 - 08:12 PM)

Semper ubi sub ubi

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Then classmate, I mean.

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

A classmate of mine once did one: Asked for the English term for [underpants], he replied "underground trousers".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 May 2018 - 10:10 AM)

Urkomisch!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 May 2018 - 10:10 AM)

@Nevermore First time I have ever heard of this, but it sounds awesome!

@  Arazyr : (18 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

We did that amongst ourselves in German class in college. We just called it "Germish", though.

@  Shrug : (18 May 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Nevermore, you've peaked my interest and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter


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#21 Msol

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:25 AM

Man, I totally forgot about Straxus. K, changing my vote. Thanks, thread!



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:00 AM

While the 'all G1, all the time' character selection is tiresome, had to give it to the 'Prime Wars' era for daring to make homage toys with fun, playable gimmicks.

Designed-in interactions between toys are my jam, and in Titans Return, any given pair of figures (other than two Legends) has at least one interactive play feature, and possibly more! Any future Generations lines that don't involve tiny people who can stand on and sit in stuff will automatically be a disappointment.

Edited by Jalaguy, 16 February 2017 - 03:40 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:52 AM

I object to the poll. War for Cybertron is not listed along with War for Cybertron, which are both separate from all other CHUG figures as part of the aligned continuity.

Meanwhile, the rest of the "Thrilling 30" series of figures is planted squarely in the IDW-verse.

That said, I'm going with Prime Wars Trilogy (a.k.a. Combiner Wars/Titans Return/Power of the Primes).

It gave me my two favorite G1 "gimmicks" (Combiners and Headmasters) while unceremoniously dumping the ones that resonated with me the least (Targetmasters and Powermasters).

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:05 AM

The question's a tough one.

 

If it was just "which is the best line?" It would be easy, with the Prime Wars trilogy. But favourite?

 

I have to go with Classics, if for no other reason than nostalgia. It was the time I started getting back into Transformers. And had designs like voyager Optimus, Jetfire, and Megatron, or deluxe Bee, Ramjet, and Mirage.

 

All of which are still amazing moulds, even today.

 

And then there's the packaging. The bright red backgrounds, with the metallic framing. And the "flip for robot mode" section on the front was a great idea.

 

Oh, and it brought back rubsigns.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:38 AM

Universe (2008) had Ratchet, Ravage, Dinobot, AND Hot Shot.

 

....i'm not sure any of those are on anybody's favorite toys list, though



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:54 AM

I object to the poll. War for Cybertron is not listed along with War for Cybertron, which are both separate from all other CHUG figures as part of the aligned continuity.

Meanwhile, the rest of the "Thrilling 30" series of figures is planted squarely in the IDW-verse.

It's about eras, aesthetics, and brands, not "continuity families" or whatever. It becomes kinda obvious even from a fiction-centric perspective when you consider FoC and Armada Starscream; they're both characters who are not IDW Starscream, who got Gens toys in this block that got repurposed into IDW Starscream. Rattrap and Waspinator got a new look in IDW to effectively not match the new toys, effectively leaving them to the Beast Wars characters.

 

The big difference with the FoC guys was that they weren't redesigned into Earth-based alt modes and stayed quite slavish to their fictional designs ... which is also true of Armada Starscream. I could see the point argued on the beasts, who were subtly redesigned, but much, much more subtly than most of the IDW-originating guys. 

 

Again ... T30 was the GenerationSest. There's nothing special about the FoC guys except that there were a lot of them and they weren't G1. Until they were, since the non-combiners were all repurposed into IDW anyway.

 

You could argue that the Gens guys sold under Movie brands were in a similar position, but ... you'd be making a silly argument, because the aesthetic lines were very distinct, there were only two of them to sort out, etc.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 16 February 2017 - 05:58 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:05 AM

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:10 AM

I personally include the WFC/FoC molds as neo-G1 toys for reasons both intuitive (look at them!) and official (IDW adopting a great number of their designs). Plus, in Generations 2010 they make up a pretty small percentage of the line (whereas neo-G1 toys quickly took over RtS) and pre-T30 FoC toys were the "Classics" of that time period.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:37 AM

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:55 AM

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#31 sparkasylum

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:55 AM

I really enjoyed Universe 1.0, but not sure it counts as much as a "Neo-G1" line.

 

Combiner Wars is my favorite. Even if there were some shortcoming, full combiner teams with articulation and scrambling, plus some bonuses like Legends add-ons... it's what I personally wanted.

 

I think it's interesting to think of "trimming the fat" from CW and look at what the line would look like if you used some CW & some UW. The excess repaints/remolds and substitute characters could be gone if someone wanted a "G1"-focused CW collection and had just:

 

-Devastator

-Superion (sans Alpha Bravo, with Slingshot & Powerglide)

-Menasor (sans Off Road, with Wildrider & Blackjack)

-Defensor (sans Rook, with deluxe Groove)

-UW Bruticus (+ CW/Japanese Legends Shockwave)

-UW Computron

-Legends Bombshell

-Leader Ultra Magnus

-Leader Megatron

 

With that restricted line up(2 Leaders, 11 voyagers, 20 deluxes, 4 Legends) there are:

-An entire unique Titan mold of 6 "voyagers"

-2 unique leader molds

-4 unique legends molds

-No repainted voyager torsos, but 3 unique molds and 2 heavy remolds

-11 unique deluxe molds, 5 heavy remolds, 2 minor remolds(Vortex, Afterburner), and 2 repaints with new heads(Slinsghot & Wildrider), Plus you could still add in Rook, one of the best CW deluxe molds as a 6th heavy remold.

 

Adding in CW Liokaiser would make another unique voyager torso but also 4 deluxe repaints with new heads.

 

That is throwing out some of the newer/non-G1 stuff I know some people love, but you could do it around another way too. Just trying to illustrate one does not have to be forced to be completist and then if so, a "cream of the crop" of Combiner Wars could be assembled and it'd minimize some of the complaints of mold re-use and limb similarity but this restricted collection would still be quite a hefty one.



#32 Jalaguy

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:25 AM

The "Repaint Wars" mentality has always annoyed me.

For the entirety of 2015, the proportion of new moulds was entirely average (and then you had the reshells on top, which we never had before). And the last six months were only redeco-heavy because Titans Return unavoidably had to take up most of 2016's allowance for new moulds.

Of course, if you start counting boxsets and stuff, then you've got lots more mould reuse, but those were an extra thing - it's not like we ever got multiple $100 boxsets full of new moulds in the past.

Edited by Jalaguy, 16 February 2017 - 10:15 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:53 AM

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:36 AM

The thing about "repaint wars" wasn't so much about individual molds as it was the full team. It was like you couldn't get 2 without doubling up on at least one mold (heck, sometimes you couldn't avoid that with just one gestalt). And so many of them were just cars and jets, who got reshelled into MORE cars and jets. Things got real dull real fast.

And the fiction, my god the fiction. EVERYBODY wanted to end their story with "and then they became combiners." Ugh

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:45 AM

The thing about "repaint wars" wasn't so much about individual molds as it was the full team. It was like you couldn't get 2 without doubling up on at least one mold (heck, sometimes you couldn't avoid that with just one gestalt). And so many of them were just cars and jets, who got reshelled into MORE cars and jets. Things got real dull real fast.

 

But, look at that lineup I proposed. There are some re-uses sure, but when you don't bother with 2 teams of Autobot car limbs, it gets much better. There are actually only 6 cars and 4 jets(and a "space jet") among the 20 deluxe limbs.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:49 AM

Yeah, the necessities of the gimmick meant that Deluxes tended to end up with one of a few general silhouettes, apart from the actual mold reuse, which managed to make it look a lot worse than it actually was. And necessary or not, ending with a bunch of repaints when they ran out of new molds didn't make things look better. 

 

But, look at that lineup I proposed. There are some re-uses sure, but when you don't bother with 2 teams of Autobot car limbs, it gets much better. There are actually only 6 cars and 4 jets(and a "space jet") among the 20 deluxe limbs.

I'm just glad you added Rook back in in the footnote. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 16 February 2017 - 09:50 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:04 AM

All of these lines were pretty good, but on the balance, I've got to go with Thrilling 30. I feel like it really hit the "sweet spot" in terms of dealing with their reduced budget, they created sculpts that radiated personality, the eclectic character selection was great, the visual tie-ins to IDW at a time when it was (and still is) some of the best TF fiction were also appreciated. Plus, four of my favorite figures ever are from this line (Springer, Arcee, Swerve, Armada Starscream) and they're all my favorites because of their expressive sculpts and solid, playable construction.

 

FoC isn't really my favorite (So I'm a bit miffed it was lumped in with T30) but it was one of the few times I ever went completist on anything, collecting all of the data discs and their masters. I still consider them to be nifty as a set, better-scaled to my collection than the TR stuff, and I firmly maintain that if for some reason they ever made more of them, I'd grab them. Plus, personally, FoC and T30 together are the first, and so far only time, I was able to grab a complete set of the original three seekers.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:10 AM

My thoughts

 

Universe - As others have said...not really a Neo-G1 line. The hidden backstory was pretty cool, but I pretty much ignored this line. What was on the shelf at the same time? Armada? Energon? Those were the figures I was collecting.

 

Alternators - I remember one of the most exciting moments in fandom for me in those days was seeing the first test shots for Masterpiece Prime and Alt Smokescreen. I ended up owning just a few Alternators, but I really enjoyed the storyline that came with the Binaltech line.

 

Classics - I obsessed constantly over that original lineup of six figures, and it was one of the first waves of TF toys that I bought in its entirety, all at once. This was also the first TF line that I collected 100%, down to the Minicons and clunky stuff like the Ultimate Battle set. Stuff like Jetfire's helmet really blew my mind at the time.

 

Universe (2008) - Easily the worst. Fail after fail with stuff like Galvatron, Ironhide, Octane...I didn't like having just one of the '86 Combiner guys, and I didn't even really like some of the better-received molds of the line like the Lambo twins or the Datsuns. The Beast Wars homage figures were awful. The only toy I kept from this line was Cyclonus, and even he has a replacement on my shelves.

 

Generations (2010/RtS) - Maybe the best for sheer choice of characters. Lots of unusual stuff coming out, with a mixture of post-movie guys that could possibly fit into a G1 shelf, some late-G1 dudes like Thunderwing, and others that had never gotten a toy before (Darkmount). RtS ramped it up even more with wins like Wreck-Gar, Jazz, and Tracks. PLUS: this was the first of these lines that had a line-wide play pattern in the c-joint accessories. And that was just a taste.

 

Generations (FoC/T30) - This was around the time I started reading IDW again, and this was also the time that Hasbro started releasing more and more figures that were tied into the IDW designs, so it felt right. Lots of great stuff from this range, including an update to my boy Skids (and I do love that figure). We got our first Titan. And Springer. And Arcee. And some great Beast Wars homages. My main complaint about this time was the lack of interaction between figures - they all felt sorta randomly selected, and even Metroplex felt like he was made for a different toyline. But...

 

Combiner Wars - With this I finally felt like I was collecting a toyline. What an awesome time to be a fan. Any complaint that could be said about CW was obliterated by how much fun I was having with the figures. This line hit the perfect sweet spot of detail and complexity. I loved having a few new characters tossed into the old combiners. Absolutely no complaints.

 

Titans Return - And just when I thought it couldn't get any better. Not only does the play pattern speak soothing words directly into my brain, but most of these characters are perfect updates to G1 toys that I've never had the chance to play with, so it's like getting better versions of childhood grails. Fort Max is a bit of a mixed bag but having a base for the little dudes makes up for it. There's some flaws like QC issues and unpainted Titan Masters, but none has been enough to dampen my enthusiasm. Best line ever. Period.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:14 AM

I love Universe 1.0 enough to have a complete set, which is a ridiculous amount of Prowls; but I can't justify counting it in this poll. Nothing about it says Neo-G1 to me, regardless of a few repaints in the line. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:33 AM

The thing about "repaint wars" wasn't so much about individual molds as it was the full team. It was like you couldn't get 2 without doubling up on at least one mold (heck, sometimes you couldn't avoid that with just one gestalt).


That was always going to be basically unavoidable with how the toyline works. ~50% of all mass retail releases are going to be redecoes. That is just a fact of life.

So let's say that we want all four of the '86 combiners to have unique moulds. If we look at the limbs, that's 16 moulds, which is two years worth of new moulds (Generations gets 16 Deluxes per year, with 7-9 brand-new moulds). So right off the bat, Combiner Wars would have to be six months longer than in reality, through to the end of 2016. Would Hasbro run a two-year toyline without a refresh nowadays? Probably not.

We also then have to increase the number of "made-up" redeco combiners relative to reality, because we now need to fill four waves with stuff that isn't the "Big Four".

Combiner Wars was mostly par for course in terms of mould reuse. But because the line encouraged the collector to purchase figures in complete sets, rather than picking and choosing the guys they liked, it meant people were simply more cognisant of the fact that half of everything was redecoes.

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