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@  Telly : (26 April 2018 - 12:05 AM)

the taxes on yoda would be much cheaper than a new car

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 April 2018 - 11:07 PM)

The end is near.

@  MEDdMI : (25 April 2018 - 09:28 PM)

@Waspinator oh wow... :D

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2018 - 09:21 PM)

http://media.diywelder.com/images/offroad/072803-newtoyyoda.jpg

@  CORVUS : (25 April 2018 - 08:22 PM)

I wager so.

@  Miss Kayla Kaon : (25 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Weird not being able to see anons anymore..... or the staff forums...... this must be what all retired staffers feel like

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 April 2018 - 02:59 PM)

I agree the logo should be AToyoTA

@  EShadowP : (25 April 2018 - 10:02 AM)

The Toyota logo spells Toyota. That's hardly stupid.

@  Benbot : (25 April 2018 - 09:59 AM)

Toyota has a stupid logo. Who's with me?

@  Paladin : (24 April 2018 - 07:16 PM)

so Crosshairs is basically Marcus Fenix? same VA anyway...

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2018 - 06:28 PM)

Would be. Yeah.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 April 2018 - 04:50 PM)

Million years of war... you'd be one too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2018 - 03:41 PM)

So in other words, they're psychopaths.

@  Sabrblade : (24 April 2018 - 02:01 PM)

And only Optimus was angry. Hound and Crosshairs were happy jerks. They loved killing because killing gave them pleasure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2018 - 11:54 AM)

It was AoE, they were all jerks.

@  Broadside : (24 April 2018 - 11:09 AM)

I like his design. I think I've entirely blotted his personality out of my memory.

@  Shrug : (24 April 2018 - 06:53 AM)

Thats part of why I like the AoE/TLK bot crew so much. They seem like the angry jerks that'd actually survive in an extended war.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 April 2018 - 01:01 AM)

I dislike him despite the trenchcoat. He's a jerk, and not the lovable kind. One note, and that note is douchebag.

@  Cybersnark : (23 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Honestly, I like him DESPITE the "trenchcoat." I prefer to keep it folded behind him like some Gundam-style flight-pack.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2018 - 11:04 AM)

People really love movieverse Crosshairs sheerly for the sake of his trenchcoat, don't they?

@  Plokatron : (22 April 2018 - 10:17 PM)

@RichardT1977 @TM2-Megatron I'm not normally one to pull the Ruined Forever card but I care less than zip about anything involving the 2017 Power Rangers movie! They screwed it up worse than Bay past DoTM and a Mastodon has four legs not six! While I'm on this mini rant anyone remember the scans of the Super Sentai Mecha book from a while back? Would it be against the rules to ask if anyone knows where to find the new updated book scanned? I really want the Concept Art for ideas.

@  D Immortalis : (22 April 2018 - 03:39 PM)

hot damn...the new From Ashes To New album isfraggin amazing

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:52 PM)

Just a few more days until my Battletech key goes live on GOG...

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:51 PM)

The first Transformers live action film really IS a lot better than what popular culture has made it out to be.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 April 2018 - 08:27 PM)

I dunno if I'd go that far. I enjoyed the first Bayformers more than the MMPR Movie remake

@  RichardT1977 : (21 April 2018 - 08:22 PM)

For the record, it was better than the (live-action) Transformers movies.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 08:21 PM)

No, I wasn't at the krispy kreme when I beat them. Wait, what?

@  Paladin : (21 April 2018 - 08:13 PM)

go back to Krispy Kreme

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 07:08 PM)

I beat five teenagers with attitude before, I can do it again.

@  Pennpenn : (21 April 2018 - 07:02 PM)

Great, after ten thousand years Wonko is free again. Does this mean more Power Rangers are needed? Again?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 April 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Ah, the layer of ice that froze it shut finally melted?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 09:14 AM)

Oh my god! GUYS! It's actually warm enough I was able to open my window!

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 11:14 PM)

Eh, I guess. He did fairly well on his own as an independent in his first appearance and such.

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 10:04 PM)

@Sabrblade Vulture tends to fare poorly as his own boss. Working for a great version of Doc Ock ain't a bad gig... and I did ask if about "bad" as opposed to "not the best". ;)

@  Plokatron : (20 April 2018 - 09:53 PM)

@Egon1982 No my friend Mutator Spiders as in get caught in their web and you are mutated into a even more animalistic creature than you were. Hordika were Half Sentient beings half Wild animal and unlike Spiderman it affected each race slightly differnt with Toa being of a similar mutation to each other. My guess for Spiderman is he would become more spider like but with a inside skeletal structure hmm wonder what Visorak Venom would do to CNA make Dinobot Predacon like monsters or something wild?!

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 04:15 PM)

compared to the "youth-sucking" gimmick from the other series? BIG step up.

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 03:57 PM)

@Otaku: What about that show's take on Vulture? He had potential at first but he eventually just settled into being a lackey rather than his own boss.

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:44 PM)

Did anyone else thought Thunder in Big Trouble in Little China when he was inflating looked like a garbage pail kid before he blew up into salad? I always thought that since seeing the movie in theaters at age 5. 

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:25 PM)

Mutator spiders as in man-spider?

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 11:06 AM)

Shocker was a pretty good villain in The Spectacular Spider-Man animated series. Wait, does that count since I can't think of a bad take on any character from that series? ;)

@  Arazyr : (20 April 2018 - 09:26 AM)

Ontario/Detroit area? Yeah. Supposedly, you could feel it from where I live, but I didn't notice. I never feel these things. 8(

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 07:08 AM)

so that WAS an earthquake last night...

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 09:43 PM)

Webhead Vs. Mutater Spiders. Hmmm I can see this ending badly with HordikaMan Hey maybe it'd make Venom catchable with spider sense.

@  Broadside : (19 April 2018 - 09:16 PM)

Can't wait for Spider-Man to fight the Visorak

@  RichardT1977 : (19 April 2018 - 05:32 PM)

Aw, man!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

SNIPER NO SNIPING

@  Bass X0 : (19 April 2018 - 04:33 PM)

SNIPERER!

@  Paladin : (19 April 2018 - 10:34 AM)

hated that game. damn sniper level's insane.

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 08:21 AM)

You know what's funny? Both Spiderman and Bionicle have a title in common. Web of Shadows. :p

@  Liege : (19 April 2018 - 08:03 AM)

Don't mocks the Shocker!


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#1 Octavius Prime

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:34 PM

Some of the talk in the TR thread got me thinking about this. I myself really enjoy the current Prime Wars trilogy toys, but I also like that we've now had several different iterations of "G1 but new" toylines.

I've included Alternators, which I don't think will be controversial, but I've also included Universe 1.0 since one of its big angles was Post-G1 Molds Redecoed As G1 Characters in an age without on-screen G1 media.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:37 PM

As much as I love Combiner Wars (Titans Returns is closely after that), I have to give it to Classics. Nothing gave me that level of excitement and joy as that line did when it started.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:52 PM

Admittedly, half of those lines were before my time (well... between my times) but for my money nothing comes close to the perfect fun of Titans Return.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:57 PM

I wasn't around for Reveal the Shield/Thrilling 30/most of Combiner Wars but Classics is definitely my favorite. It had a focus and a novelty that, by definition, the later ones just couldn't have, plus by virtue of being a "filler" line, it was just really short and sweet.  Plus most of the toys actually update the character designs in a cool, modern way instead of just trying to be the G1 toy with maybe a more modern vehicle mode like some of the later ones can be. Plus personally speaking, that was the first line I had the money to buy on my own and that was really exciting.

 

There's not a straight up bad toy in that entire line. Some are definitely better than others, but there aren't any total clunkers I don't think.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:59 PM

CW/TR, easily.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:08 PM

Gens FoC-T30. Was it a complete and cohesive line worthy of a "best" title? Probably not. Did it include several of the best Transformers figures literally ever made? Yes. Rattrap, Rhinox, and Springer are the toys I'd hang onto if I had to get rid of everything else. I loved the IDW designs for the care that went into reimagining these reimagined G1 guys into G1ish alt modes and making everything work nonetheless, which started (minus IDW influence) in Universe 2.0 but hit its peak in T30. 

 

I'm not a completionist, I've never* had that kind of funding. I like good individual toys more than I like collections. T30 was a lot of good individual toys.

 

* Well, I'm character-complete for Animated less Ironhide and Cliffjumper, but.


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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:41 PM

Generations 2010/Reveal the Shield. They still had ROTF's higher budget for plastic, so things could be more intricate, but most of the figures (not all) were more intuitive than Universe 2.0.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:52 PM

On the one hand, I feel like the next round of Gens was a polished version of what RtS was doing. On the other hand ... that's all it was; FoC / T30 didn't actually introduce anything new into that equation, just refined it. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:15 PM

While I have loved them all, especially at the times each came out (the next iteration would pretty much one-up the previous for me, mostly because I would have something new to look forward to), but TR has really been one of my favorites.  Head/Target/Powermasters were my absolute favorite gimmick, so this whole line of Titan Masters has really been fun to collect and fiddle with. 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:16 PM

Energon.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:19 PM

Im sorry but my favorite year was 1987 and so CW/TR has pushed all the 87 buttons just right

 

 

But the Arcee/Scoop lineup is a close second


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:19 PM

I should also say - combining lumping together CW and TR doesn't really work for me; PWT or not, CW sort of feels like a distant bad dream once TR comes along. It started strong but ran itself into the ground and even at its best it wasn't a patch on Titans Return.

Also Copper said a lot of wise stuff about the T30 era.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:42 PM

Energon.

You almost made me spit out my Coke!

I do recognize your point, though. Energon is second only to TR in being a TFTM redux.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:57 PM

CW managed to be the first non-Movie line that completely lost my interest.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Retrospectively, I don't think I really liked any of the toylines! :D Not out of hate, just disinterest. I mean, there are standout "glad I bought these!" figures from each one, but I didn't really follow any like I did with RotF or Kre-O. Dunno how to rank anything when everything that wasn't Lugnut, Cosmos, and Sky Lynx were effectively just background noise.

 

 

 

Thrilling 30 was interesting because it was actual GenerationS for once, but it was also a time where prices went up, quality went down (Blitzwing's shoulders, Cosmos' head paint, Whirl's STENCH!!), and I had to start getting picky with toys...


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:29 PM

Someone should mock up catalogues for each line to help me decide.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:37 PM

I'm with Randy on this, in that I'll always have a fondness for Classics. That came around at just the right time -- the headiness of the peak of the Unicron Trilogy showing us the new was thriving, the anticipation of a new age with the Movie, and a concentrated taste of revisited originals. Many of them have been superseded since, but only because the established (and, sure, obvious) viability of that line made future iterations possible.

2.0 and T30 are great anniversary lines with a good breadth of product, with the latter being a bit of a better execution that was even symbiotically guided by a fiction tie-in that the former didn't quite get to have.

CW and TR elevated mold-maximization and reuse to an art form, and that's a feat in and of itself. All I could still want from CW is a G2 Defensor -- it managed to cover every vehicle combiner, and give us a great fan-vote one too. Here's hoping a later round gets us the beasts.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:02 PM

Universe 1.0: Nah. A bunch of weird recolors and little odds and ends. I do sorta wish I had picked up a Razorclaw and mammoth Nemesis Prime at the time though.

 

Alternators: Was also never a fan, I think the only two I ever got were Sideswipe and Swindle. Stuff like licensing and rubber wheels and realistic alt-modes aren't something I really care about, and overall the complexity and thin shells each had turned me off.

 

Classics: The one that started it all, eh? Certainly some very good toys (Voyager Optimus Prime is still my favorite Prime toy) but also had a fair amount of misses, as well, like Grimlock, the Ultimate Battle Set, etc.

 

Universe 2.0: Time has not treated this line well. There's still a few standouts (Cyclonus, Sunstreaker, Hound) but also some really big clunkers (Galvatron, Ironhide, Cheetor). My overall impression steers a bit negative because a lot of the toys in the middle have one or two things that I really keep me from liking the toy.

 

Generations (2010)/Reveal The Shield: RtS has some really great toys - Jazz, Perceptor, Laser Rod Prime, Wreck-Gar. Still mad I never found Lugnut. I could take or leave the WfC toys, but the neo-G1 toys like Scourge, Drift, and Kup are pretty good. The repaints are good too (depending on your view of the rancor the three Seekers caused), and oh yeah, we not only got a Straxus toy, but we got a AWESOME Straxus toy. The worst toy is probably, what, Thunderwing?

 

Generations (FoC/Thrilling 30): I've never been a fan of the video game aesthetic, and I think the FoC toys are definitely inferior to the WfC ones. The only one I got was Bruticus because hey, Bruticus, something that feels silly in retrospect after Combiner Wars. But Thrilling 30 has a bunch of great toys, enough that even outshines the odd clunker (Blitzwing).

 

Combiner Wars/Titan Masters: Lots of solid (if not great) toys, and scratches my itch to have all those 86-87 guys we hadn't gotten. But there was too much mold reuse in Combiner Wars, even skipping stuff like the '84-85 character repaints.

 

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Looking at my notes, I'm casting my vote for 2010/RtS, but Thrilling 30 is very close (and CW/TR right behind that). Looking back certainly does make me feel spoiled at some of the awesome stuff we're getting now, though... going from stuff like "well I guess a G1-ish repaint of Energon Devastator is good enough" to "FULL LINE OF COMBINERS" for example.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:39 PM

Universe 1, because it wasn't a Neo-G1 line.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:59 AM

These poll options are awful. Universe 1.0 and Generations (2010) weren't even "Neo G1" lines. There's no option for Generations before FOC. Then toy lines that aren't similar are paired together.

Bad poll. Decent question though.

Alternators:
The only one I think still holds up is the 2nd Ravage (the one with the cat mode). The rest of the line is a neat gimmick that leads to a lot of frustration. This line might be among worst Transformers lines if you ask me.

Classics:
I was talking about this line with friends the other day. Mirage is still amazing. Others are still solid, but a lot of them were just good for the time. They also have that Cybertron charm. Also, I hate the Seeker mold. Mainly because it was subpar even for it's time and could've been tweaked to be great, but they never did. I'd probably rate this line higher if it wasn't so small. Even including the Botcon figures, Mini-Cons, and other repaints from Energon and Cybertron, the line is still well under a hundred toys. And only a 3rd of those (maybe even a 4th) were made for Classics.

Universe 2.0:
Had to bring up a list of this line to remind myself what was in it beyond the 2 BW figures and Cyclonus really is the best thing of the line. The rest kind of have the same issue as Alternators in that the complexity is a detriment. Aside from the 3 toys I mentioned, I don't think I still have anything left of this line in my collection. And the 2 BW toys from this line are not good. This is a pretty weak line in general in my opinion.

Generations Pre-FOC/Reveal the Shield:
While RTS is technically a movie line, it had a lot of toys clearly intended for Generations that would not have been released otherwise. The only real difference here is the rub signs on RTS. These lines are still mainly complex like U2.0, but I feel there's a few more streamlined figures that are good. I still have a lot of these lines on my shelves. Warpath is great. Jazz is great. Kup and Tracks are not perfect, but I sort of love them for that. WfC still fills a few of my character spots as well and WfC Prime is one of the complex ones that enjoy. Plus, we got leftfield stuff like Darkmount.

Fall of Cybetron:
This line is when the shift to more simple TFs was getting started. There's some good stuff here. Until TR, I'd point to this line's Blaster and Soundwave if you wanted a modern tape deck like chest gimmick. There are stand outs like Starscream that's basically an updated triangle seeker, but my favorite of the line is easily Air Raid with his badass combining sword. I still play with Air Raid from time to time. And I mean PLAY play, pew pew sound effects and all. I don't know if there's a way to recommend a toy more highly than that.

Oh...and this line had combiners that a lot of us would like to forget.

Thrilling 30:
This is the line hardest to not cheat with because half of the highlights aren't G1. Those Beast Wars toys are amazing and more important to me than G1 stuff. Armada Starscream and BM Tankor are super fun...and there's some great G1 stuff to. The line is at odds with itself if judged as "Neo G1" because it's great for not being JUST G1. Eitherway, Springer is a masterpiece. Arcee (at least Takara's paint job) is a wonderful Arcee, the Legends class is full of great stuff. Cosmos is [insert positive adjective here]. I think this is the high point for Generations for me, but I'm aware a lot of that is because half of it isn't G1.

Combiner Wars:
I have a huge love/hate relationship with Combiner Wars. I feel that they successfully made a modern combiner...Superion. If the torso is Silverbolt or one of his retools, then it's going to be a great combiner. Every other torso (save for Sky Lynx who comes close, but misses thanks to QC) sucks as a torso. Plus, one bad figure pretty much ruins the whole combiner. There's still a few stand out singles like Rook and really all of the Protectabots when they aren't combined. I wouldn't call this line bad so much as just a disappointment.

Titans Return:
Still ongoing, so this could change. I like it more than CW if only because a dud in this line is pretty self contained to it's own package (or only cost $5). More importantly (for me), beast modes are back again! I know it wasn't that long, but I missed that variety in CW. Other than that, I love the Titanmasters and really everything about them as a concept. The TM class is like Micromasters and MASK had baby. The line realizes that if they're going to have the heads become tiny robots, they need stuff to interact with. To me, TR is the line that doesn't just update old toys, but also updates the gimmick and makes it better.

So yeah, best of these is Thrilling 30, but I'm not sure how much of that greatness really belongs to G1, just that it had a lot of great toys and some were G1. Close 2nd is either TR, Pre-FOC Gen, or RTS. Classics, FOC, CW, and U2.0 round out the middle. Bottom is easily Alternators.





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