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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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Bunch of RID guys revealed via game - Ultra Bee, Menasor, Galvatronus, Dragbreak, Shocknado!


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:53 AM

http://snakas.blog95...entry-5707.html

 

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:57 AM

Oh, "Hi-Test". Nice.

Kinda hope there's an easy way to get him since my Stormshot is now SG Darkwing. And well it's not Throttle, but close enough!



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:58 AM

Shocknado, awesome.

I hope at least some of these guys get Warrior class figures, Cyclonus chief among them.

It looks like Menasor is just Motormaster and the Drag/Break duo?

Also if they're still doing mission redecos, I'd like a Lunar Force Strongarm.

Edited by lastmaximal, 15 February 2017 - 08:03 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:59 AM

Mildly disappointed Shocknado isn't a Sawtooth redeco.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:30 AM

We saw that Menasor is also only composed of 4 bots at the first official art leak. And Galvatronus there clearly has the same leg design for both legs. Ultrabee has Grimlock lower body. It looks like all of the combiners are made of 4 guys with a torso, two arms and a lower body.

 

I'm guessing Shocknado is a fusion of Cyclonus and Shockwave, if only because he is completely purple instead of a color mix like the other two-guy combiners.


Edited by Boomhauer, 15 February 2017 - 08:30 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:39 AM

Menasor is strange mainly because he appears to be made of Motormaster, Drag Strip, and then both a Breakdown-esque and Wildrider-esque guy, but we got one of the 'Con Crash Combiners as "Wildbreak", who seems like he should be covering the latter two, with Dead End as the fourth. But this picture kind of implies - huh, I wonder if it's Motormaster, Drag Strip, Wildbreak-the-Breakdown proxy and Offroad. Those legs are pretty truck-y.

 

Galvatronus is intriguing and I'm glad to see it used (presumably) in fiction, with Cyclonus' behind-the-scenes control of Cybertron.

 

Shocknado seems like he should be a fusion of Shockwave and someone, but I don't see any Shockwave in either half, or the head design. Maybe we're getting an RID Shockblast or something.

 

Ultra Bee, Menasor and Galvatronus being classified as Crash Combiners certainly lends credence to the idea that even the big main combiners are going to be released as smallish toys - which is disappointing but not surprising, if correct.

 

EDIT: Ugh, stupid Creedence.


Edited by LV!, 15 February 2017 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:05 AM

Yup, Shocknado's head shot doesn't match the head of the full body shot.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:17 AM

Obviously the "Shock" in "Shocknado" comes from "Shocktipus".



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:18 AM

We didn't see Skysledge's robot mode in the official art, right? Could that be because he's Shockwavey?



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:24 AM

Yeah, I didn't even look at that, but nothing matches between model and headshot on Shocknado. So my guess is the inset picture is one of the components' art incorrectly stuck in there.

 

EDIT: Also I wasn't smart enough earlier to compare Menasor to Dragbreak, so clearly Wildbreak is the fill-in for the deceased Breakdown, and I'm definitely betting the legs are Offroad. It would even make sense for him to be a big truck to match up with Grimlock being a big tyrannosaur in Ultra Bee.

 

Also also: huh. Galvatronus and Menasor are rendered like their legs are individual vehicles, with wheels on both the insides and outsides of the legs, but Ultra Bee clearly only has half a Grimlock on each side, as evidenced by his adorable flailing dinosaur arms.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:57 AM


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:15 AM

It's important not to strain yourself by Dragging for long periods of time.

-ZacWilliam, reminding everyone take a Dragbreak every half an hour.

 

Take a break.

 

Take a drag.

 

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:39 AM

Who's the ROM looking guy in the portraits to the left?

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:43 AM

Who's the ROM looking guy in the portraits to the left?

 

Minicon Undertone, I think.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:52 AM

So, Galvatronus could be Cyclonus's endgame, using his mind control powers to not only manipulate the Council, but to also make himself a combiner. My theory, at least.
 
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:56 AM

All this, and no Blastwave or Stormshot?? I still just get candy when I scan them.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:04 AM

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:10 AM

Menasor is strange mainly because he appears to be made of Motormaster, Drag Strip, and then both a Breakdown-esque and Wildrider-esque guy, but we got one of the 'Con Crash Combiners as "Wildbreak", who seems like he should be covering the latter two, with Dead End as the fourth. But this picture kind of implies - huh, I wonder if it's Motormaster, Drag Strip, Wildbreak-the-Breakdown proxy and Offroad. Those legs are pretty truck-y.

 

It looks to me like Motormaster will be forming the pants, rather than the torso, of Menasor, leaving the torso to be someone else.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:14 PM

I know about the art work with 4 Stunticons, but it still looks like to me Menasor and Galvatronus are standard 5-bot combiners: torso + 2 arms + 2 legs. It's just UltraBee that has Grimlock forming both legs.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:23 PM

But Menasor's two legs are identical. Surely a five limb combiner wouldn't have this?





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