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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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#41 Telly

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:05 AM

save for in robot mode, where some of the iffier issues are shared as well (i.e. kind of a wobbly stance).

 

stop using him to hold your beer and he wont be so wobbly!


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:32 AM

I essentially acquired Fort through a reward program at work. I can fairly say I still would have paid full price for him despite Metro retool.
I mean I have the city, now I also have the military airport.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:16 AM

Only if he plays Storm Eagle's stage music 24/7.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:05 AM

If you have G1 Fort Max, TR Max is completely unnecessary.

 

 

It still comes down to how much you want Cerebros/Spike. Which are admittedly really cool.

 

The G1 Fort Max body is still probably better - better fortress and space modes, stable points of articulation, actual firepower.

 

If you already have G1 Fort Max how "really cool" extra are Cerebros and Spike? A Titanmaster is not much different than a G1 Headmaster head, and there are plenty of other Titanmasters available cheaply.

 

I guess it offers the Rebirth face, sounds & articulation for Cerebros, and.... folding, head points/antennas above the square block of Fort Max's head? Not sure that's enough.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:37 AM

That's about it. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:33 PM



The weird box on his left leg annoys me and really would have benefitted from being some kind of vehicle.

That's one of the weirdest bits, since when you flip it over, it was clearly meant to do something at some point.  What that is, I have no idea.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:37 PM

 



The weird box on his left leg annoys me and really would have benefitted from being some kind of vehicle.

That's one of the weirdest bits, since when you flip it over, it was clearly meant to do something at some point.  What that is, I have no idea.

 

 

The box that replaces the helipad?

 

What it's meant to do is be Metroplex's fold out shoulder gun. And Hasbro re-used the part and added one other to make a box/gun/helipad thing.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:53 PM

The Reprolabels set interprets it as a little shuttlecraft.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:43 PM

 

 



The weird box on his left leg annoys me and really would have benefitted from being some kind of vehicle.

That's one of the weirdest bits, since when you flip it over, it was clearly meant to do something at some point.  What that is, I have no idea.

 

 

The box that replaces the helipad?

 

What it's meant to do is be Metroplex's fold out shoulder gun. And Hasbro re-used the part and added one other to make a box/gun/helipad thing.

 

No, the tiny turret on the leg.  It's an entirely original part to Fort Max and has some odd clip-looking stuff inside.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:03 PM

those without the toy have no idea what you all are talking about. lil help? like, pics?


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:37 PM

 

If you have G1 Fort Max, TR Max is completely unnecessary.

 

 

It still comes down to how much you want Cerebros/Spike. Which are admittedly really cool.

 

The G1 Fort Max body is still probably better - better fortress and space modes, stable points of articulation, actual firepower.

 

If you already have G1 Fort Max how "really cool" extra are Cerebros and Spike? A Titanmaster is not much different than a G1 Headmaster head, and there are plenty of other Titanmasters available cheaply.

 

I guess it offers the Rebirth face, sounds & articulation for Cerebros, and.... folding, head points/antennas above the square block of Fort Max's head? Not sure that's enough.

 

 

 

That's about it. 

 

Plus lights and sound effects!

 

 

 

 



The weird box on his left leg annoys me and really would have benefitted from being some kind of vehicle.

That's one of the weirdest bits, since when you flip it over, it was clearly meant to do something at some point.  What that is, I have no idea.

 

 

The box that replaces the helipad?

 

What it's meant to do is be Metroplex's fold out shoulder gun. And Hasbro re-used the part and added one other to make a box/gun/helipad thing.

 

No, the tiny turret on the leg.  It's an entirely original part to Fort Max and has some odd clip-looking stuff inside.

 

 

Pretty sure it's still the former helipad.

 

I just checked mine, and the guns there are on the feet (per Metroplex), the removable shin guns, and the rotating ex-helipad on the side of the left leg that reuses Metroplex's shoulder gun that clipped in next to his head.

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:32 AM

 

 

 



The weird box on his left leg annoys me and really would have benefitted from being some kind of vehicle.

That's one of the weirdest bits, since when you flip it over, it was clearly meant to do something at some point.  What that is, I have no idea.

 

 

The box that replaces the helipad?

 

What it's meant to do is be Metroplex's fold out shoulder gun. And Hasbro re-used the part and added one other to make a box/gun/helipad thing.

 

No, the tiny turret on the leg.  It's an entirely original part to Fort Max and has some odd clip-looking stuff inside.

 

 

The thing mounted on the outside of the left lower leg of Titans Return Fortress Maximus that is sorta like the thing mounted on the outside of the left lower leg of G1 Fortress Maximus that forms the helipad of his city mode but also has 2 red guns that deploy from it?

 

The red double gun part of that thing on Fortress Maximus is a re-used part from Metroplex. What looks like might've been a hinge *was* a hinge. Not for an abandoned Fort Max feature but for a feature that was used on Metroplex.

 

The blue part of it is new.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:53 AM

I'm not sure if he's even worth it for non-Metroplex owners. I'm actually far more interested in tracking down an Encore Fort Max than the TR figure.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 09:02 PM

Much as I love Cerebros and the figure in general, it's hard to disagree. Hell, if he even just came with the rifle they show him with on the box (they can take "product may vary" and stick that up their aft), it might be a harder call.

 

I think the biggest hangups I have, though, are the lack of almost any practical, usable interior space. Even for his Titan Master compatibility, he doesn't really have a cockpit like the original, and even a lot of the pegs don't even seem to fit the guy who came with him. His front gate goes nowhere, and the one space he does have in the shoulder doesn't fit much very well, thanks to bulges from the walls and that two-level grate, which is cool in theory, but keeps much from fitting in there without having to employ "shake 'em out" techniques.

 

G1 Fort Max, comparatively speaking, had all sorts of nooks and crannies that at least fit smaller size Transformers. Wheelie, Fixit, and depending on the mode and place, Rewind are even a bit cramped in TR's spaces (though Rewind's tank mode fits beautifully in the lower level of the shoulder area).

 

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 04:53 PM

One thing that *might* make Fort Max more worth it is if there is eventually a Titan class Scorponok. If some one is big into the Fort Max/Scorponok rivalry, having 2 with articulation and equal height line up against each other would be fun.



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 07:56 PM

Incidentally, thinking about it, TR Fort Max's base mode reminds me a lot of Scorponok's. I wonder if there's been any thought to remolding it further along those lines.

 

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:47 PM

Incidentally, thinking about it, TR Fort Max's base mode reminds me a lot of Scorponok's. I wonder if there's been any thought to remolding it further along those lines.
 
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 06:13 AM

I like to be prepared.

 

Incidentally, for everything I can see making it work, I can see reasons why it wouldn't, mostly coming down to the tail.

 

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 07:50 AM

I like to be prepared.

 

Incidentally, for everything I can see making it work, I can see reasons why it wouldn't, mostly coming down to the tail.

 

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The tail is the sticking point.

 

But I do expect for any "humanoid" Titan Class, they're likely to reuse at least some incidental parts of this "Titan Class Buck".





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