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@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:20 PM)

Unless I decide to do a voluntary Saturday shift.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:20 PM)

I can stay up 2 or 3 AM, sleep as long as I want, do my chores, go to work, and look forward to two days of weekend, every week until the end of the year.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:19 PM)

Working permanent late shift is awesome, despite the weird looks my coworkers give me.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:18 PM)

Especially now that I have every Saturday off.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm so glad I have a guaranteed five-day work week.

@  Paladin : (25 May 2018 - 01:58 PM)

first day off in ages & I wound up baked. and not in the fun way...

@  Telly : (24 May 2018 - 10:22 PM)

one thing im worried about if i get it is im gonna love it and then ill be lost in gundam models lol

@  Telly : (24 May 2018 - 10:21 PM)

ill have to keep an eye on that one

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

https://www.gundamplanet.com/hg-ms-06-zaku-ii-type-c-c-5-gundam-the-origin-ver.html

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Bandai just released a new Zaku in the Origin line, looks like the new definitive at the HG price point

@  Liege : (24 May 2018 - 12:42 PM)

@Telly try the HG rather than the RG, there are a ton of great Zaku variants that are doable for beginners

@  RichardT1977 : (24 May 2018 - 11:02 AM)

If there is an economic system, somebody will find a way to abuse it for personal gain.

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

@unluckiness I believe you are correct, but I didn't feel like looking it up so I didn't want to mention it. If that is the case, it isn't "capitalism" anyway. Maybe crapitalism (crony capitalism).

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:46 AM)

Like richard said, it's not inherently less healthy than table sugar. It's unhealthy in how it's in everything, leading to increased calorie intake that we don't even realize.

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:43 AM)

Also you try organizing a boycott of Coca frigging cola and see how far you get. Not to mention all the other processed foods that also make use of it that aren't as notorious for it

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:42 AM)

I believe the US government subsidizes corn farmers to such a degree that corn is stupidly cheap, making corporations lean towards it far more

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 08:41 AM)

@SHIELD Agent 47 If HFCS was "caused" by capitalism, all it takes to solve it is people NOT buying it. As is, products that use actual sugar and countless alternative sweeteners are available. At least for big brands like Coca-Cola. ;)

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:40 AM)

And if doing so means that eventually is longer and less filled with complications, well, that junk food had better be the best junk ever

@  Otaku : (23 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

@Paladin Quality of life. So many things I enjoyed as a kid have caused (or at least aggravated) health issues later in life. By later, I mean it started in my mid-20's. XP

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

THere's a difference between having some and constantly stuffing your face with calories.

@  Paladin : (23 May 2018 - 08:33 AM)

we all die eventually. why not enjoy the stuff that tastes good in the time we have?

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2018 - 08:26 AM)

HFCS is never good for you any way. It's nothing but monosaccharides basically

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 May 2018 - 11:32 PM)

*sigh* Wouldn't be that much of a problem if not for Western capitalism.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2018 - 05:45 PM)

The only thing that makes HFCS more unhealthy than sugar is its lower cost.

@  Telly : (22 May 2018 - 03:20 PM)

looking at a video review and seeing all the tiny parts makes me think twice about it anyway

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2018 - 03:04 PM)

You should probably ask in the Gundam thread.

@  Telly : (22 May 2018 - 02:52 PM)

is this any good? i dont know about gundam models but want a good zaku https://www.amazon.c...0C7D2WQ09A9A9MZ

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:33 PM)

Dammit, and I was just about to hook up this Coke IV directly to my bloodstream, too. Killjoy :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 May 2018 - 12:28 PM)

Recommendation: if you're going to fill your body up with junk food, try real sugar instead of HFCS.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:10 PM)

Not so much that it's worth the extra money to buy it in glass bottles all the time (I think the most you can get is a 6-pack of Coke in glass bottles around here, and it's signifcantly more expensive than 6 plastic), but every once in a while it's nice to drink from an old-fashioned bottle

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2018 - 12:08 PM)

Personally, I find they also tend to taste better out of a glass bottle compared to the plastic ones used most of the time

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2018 - 11:27 AM)

None that I know of, but it's a neat fact. Sodas in glass bottles stay carbonated.

@  Paladin : (22 May 2018 - 11:00 AM)

what vending machines still use glass???

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2018 - 10:54 AM)

And it won't lose carbonation if it's a properly sealed glass bottle.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:51 AM)

The drink is safe to drink for a good while after, the expiration date seems to apply to how "good" it will be. Usually the carbonation gives out before anything starts growing or it becomes unsafe to consume

@  Paladin : (22 May 2018 - 10:31 AM)

out of curiosity, how solid are the expiration dates on soft drinks?

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:25 AM)

Sure does feel like they are shoring themselves up against losing a significant source of revenue...

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2018 - 10:25 AM)

So I guess Hasbro is going to be making Overwatch toys now

@  Otaku : (19 May 2018 - 02:17 PM)

@TM2-Megatron Yeah, it is like @TheMightyMollusk says. The catch is that usually means they can contain beef, and I confirmed it by pushing my luck. XD So... yeah, if going to the theater was about watching the film, it might be worth potentially resting on the balls of my feet while technically sitting in the chair, but put it all together... and I just wait to watch it at home. Oh, and ticket prices, always ticket prices.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2018 - 10:24 AM)

woot woot! Korean barbeque for dinner!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 May 2018 - 05:51 AM)

It's meat scraps. Whatever's left over from cutting up the more choice cuts.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 May 2018 - 11:26 PM)

Well, the hot dogs Cineplex has (pretty much our only big theatre chain) around here are quite good, but I have no idea of the composition, and honestly, it's probably better that way.

@  Otaku : (18 May 2018 - 10:01 PM)

@TM2-Megatron In my case, shouldn't risk the hot dogs, either. Maybe if they are guaranteed to contain NO beef (can't digest it anymore >_<).

@  Waspinator : (18 May 2018 - 08:12 PM)

Semper ubi sub ubi

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Then classmate, I mean.

@  Nevermore : (18 May 2018 - 01:18 PM)

A classmate of mine once did one: Asked for the English term for [underpants], he replied "underground trousers".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 May 2018 - 10:10 AM)

Urkomisch!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 May 2018 - 10:10 AM)

@Nevermore First time I have ever heard of this, but it sounds awesome!

@  Arazyr : (18 May 2018 - 08:39 AM)

We did that amongst ourselves in German class in college. We just called it "Germish", though.

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#21 MightyMegs

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 01:07 PM

I've spent plenty of $ on sticker and upgrade kits for Metroplex... and I still like Fort Max better.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 01:15 PM

Fort Max may be one of the first modern Transformers I sell since my great purge about 7 years ago. And I've only had him since Christmas. He makes me want an original, and Bain really hit it on the head about those ramps.

 

I owned an incomplete original in the early 2000s. Cerebros/Spike is better. Everything else is trumped by a 30 year old toy.

 

FM is the 2016 version of Titanium Soundwave when compared to the original. Stupid feet...stupid legs. Least he isn't wearing a diaper.


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#23 Bainreese

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 01:49 PM

I can't believe it took that long for someone to call Fort Max lazy.

 

I'm not a Hasbro sycophant like some and I'm not a constant basher like others.  I understand I have adult expectations on what is otherwise a kids toy line.  But come on.  Ramps would have been a single piece of molded plastic tacked with a pin onto the ends that would have covered very obvious hands and would have been completely inline with the G1 figure.  It would have provided more play value for the toy and would have been more appropriate than the two red mini-ramps that are meant to marry up with completely different figures someone may or may not own.

That is only the ramp issue....glaring and obvious as it is.  That doesn't even touch on the fact that the 30 year old toy it was meant to be an update for had more play features.

The ramps are a pet peeve of mine for sure.  Perhaps even to the point of being Phazer-level annoying with my disdain for what a big miss it was.  But I don't even play with my toys like kids do and it bugs me its missing such a simple, cheap, and obviously needed play feature.


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#24 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

I kinda touched on this over in the Trypticon thread.  I think part of what is making Titan Masters such a successful line for so many of us is the fact that Hasbro has given us something that we didn't even get with G1 Headmasters.

#1.  An entire line of Headmasters rather than just a subline

#2.  Play integration and swap-ability between all size classes.

#3.  Smaller transformable vehicles as well as base-modes for almost all larger than deluxe figures.

#4.  Titan Master features in the guns and larger figures specifically designed around the Titan Masters.

 

#1 is undeniably true, and quite cool.

#2? There was never any size of Headmaster head that didn't work in all other Headmasters made, to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it was more accidental than intentional, but I'm disinclined to include this as a distinct point in TR's favor....

#3 is a MAJOR plus.

#4 is true... but honestly, I'm not all that enthusiastic about it. Still, it's intentional, and there are folks who like it, so I guess it works.

 

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:43 PM

Quite honestly, I'm surprised at the amount of disdain that TR Fort Max is getting in this thread.

 

But I'm certainly happy to have my G1 Fort Max affirmed.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:45 PM

I like the toy, so I hold no disdain for it... 

 

But yeah. All the other options offered in this thread are better. 



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:54 PM

Same here.  He's certainly nice.  Just not as good as Metroplex or the original.

 

Fortress and Cerebros are great though.




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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:09 PM

I don't think either one is worth it.  



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:29 PM

 

 

#2.  Play integration and swap-ability between all size classes.

 

 

 

#2? There was never any size of Headmaster head that didn't work in all other Headmasters made, to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it was more accidental than intentional, but I'm disinclined to include this as a distinct point in TR's favor....

 

 

Yeah, we live in a pretty good time, don't we?

 

 

Perhaps a better way to say this is that they have made a gimmick where the headmasters are interchangeable between size classes and made a far greater variety of size classes that interact with the headmaster.  In G1 the headmasters were all of a size with one another with the exception of Scorponok and Fort Max.  Whereas with TR we've not only got a Fort Max, but we have leaders, voyagers, and deluxes that all have interchangeable heads and even some legends that have integrated headmaster compartments.

We do live in a great time and my irritation with Hasbro for being lazy with Fort Max should not overshadow my love for all the other things they are doing in the same way that being critical of my daughter's overuse of the word 'like' 5 times in a sentence doesn't mean I love her less.  ;-)


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:36 PM

Quite honestly, I'm surprised at the amount of disdain that TR Fort Max is getting in this thread.

 

But I'm certainly happy to have my G1 Fort Max affirmed.

As you should.  G1 Fort Max is way more fun.  And a hell of a lot sturdier... grumblegrumblefallingofframpsandcollapsinglegsgrumblegrumble..


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:40 PM

I don't even think of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus as serving the same purpose, honestly. Plex is part of the Legends/Cyberverse collection, Max is part of the not-those collection.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:55 PM

 

 

 

#2.  Play integration and swap-ability between all size classes.

 

 

 

#2? There was never any size of Headmaster head that didn't work in all other Headmasters made, to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it was more accidental than intentional, but I'm disinclined to include this as a distinct point in TR's favor....

 

 

Yeah, we live in a pretty good time, don't we?

 

 

Perhaps a better way to say this is that they have made a gimmick where the headmasters are interchangeable between size classes and made a far greater variety of size classes that interact with the headmaster.  In G1 the headmasters were all of a size with one another with the exception of Scorponok and Fort Max.  Whereas with TR we've not only got a Fort Max, but we have leaders, voyagers, and deluxes that all have interchangeable heads and even some legends that have integrated headmaster compartments.

 

 

There's certainly greater variety now, but I was thinking of Headmaster Jrs. as being a distinct size-class from the previous years' Headmasters. The heads still worked back-and-forth, though.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:12 PM

I bought the SDCC FM in a sale before Christmas. It's nice enough as a big Transformer but definitely underwhelming. The city mode is only really a glorified hub to attach Leader base modes too and most of the TM pegs only work in this mode. A lot of the ports for weapons (including those designed to seat TMs) feel really badly placed and conflict with each other.

The weird box on his left leg annoys me and really would have benefitted from being some kind of vehicle.

If you want to have a toy where size is the gimmick then it works. But as a transformer and the big ticket item of the fun Titans Return line it's really underwhelming.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 09:36 PM

I have only had Fort Max since Christmas. I like him but I find myself questioning how to display him due to space constraints. So sadly, he is not displayed. I still want Generations Metroplex but I'm not willing to shell out the exorbitant prices he is going for now. I also never owned any of the G1 cities. All that being said, I'm glad to finally own a city-former.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 09:37 PM

I passed on Generations Metroplex back when he was released because he just seemed kind of "meh" to me.  His city mode looked pretty half-assed to my eyes, but I will grant that his rolling battle platform mode was decent.  I did track down a loose Scamper a couple of years ago though, and I really like him.  Because I don't own Metroplex, he has been added in as Fort Max's little buddy.

 

I do understand the criticism that TR/LG Fort Max is underwhelming in his city mode, what with the lack of ramps to cover those fists (seriously, it's unforgivable).  And yes, G1 Fort Max succeeds in both alt modes where the modern update falls short.  However, I have - and continue to have - a lot of fun with TR/LG Fort Max. Yes, I bought both releases and no, I don't regret them. Cerebros and Fortress are great and I have found a lot of ways to display other Transformers in my collection around him.

 

So yeah, uh, get whichever one appeals to you or don't.  If you already own Metroplex and are on the fence about Fort Max, I'd say do it.  He ticks different boxes and is aesthetically pleasing in robot mode.  He'll look great in your collection and who knows, you might even have a little fun with him.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:09 PM

I should probably give up on the fantasy that I'm ever going to be willing to pay for an SDCC Metroplex and just buy the little Decoy guys who are the only part of it I really wanted in the first place.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:22 PM

Price is a HUGE factor. If you already own Metroplex, he is absolutely not worth it at full retail, as he's overall an inferior figure (unless you need Cerebros).

Find him at a decent sale price, and he becomes a relatively inexpensive way to add something massive to the collection.

Regarding his base mode, Blaster somehow manages to provide a much better base for Titan Masters at a fraction of the cost.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:00 AM

 

 
#2.  Play integration and swap-ability between all size classes.
 

 
 
#2? There was never any size of Headmaster head that didn't work in all other Headmasters made, to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it was more accidental than intentional, but I'm disinclined to include this as a distinct point in TR's favor....
 
 
Yeah, we live in a pretty good time, don't we?
 
 
Perhaps a better way to say this is that they have made a gimmick where the headmasters are interchangeable between size classes and made a far greater variety of size classes that interact with the headmaster.  In G1 the headmasters were all of a size with one another with the exception of Scorponok and Fort Max.  Whereas with TR we've not only got a Fort Max, but we have leaders, voyagers, and deluxes that all have interchangeable heads and even some legends that have integrated headmaster compartments.

We do live in a great time and my irritation with Hasbro for being lazy with Fort Max should not overshadow my love for all the other things they are doing in the same way that being critical of my daughter's overuse of the word 'like' 5 times in a sentence doesn't mean I love her less.  ;-)
You want "play integration" but when Hasbro gives you some they hear

(it) would have been more appropriate than the two red mini-ramps that are meant to marry up with completely different figures someone may or may not own.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 02:58 AM

 

 

 

 
#2.  Play integration and swap-ability between all size classes.
 

 
 
#2? There was never any size of Headmaster head that didn't work in all other Headmasters made, to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it was more accidental than intentional, but I'm disinclined to include this as a distinct point in TR's favor....
 
 
Yeah, we live in a pretty good time, don't we?
 
 
Perhaps a better way to say this is that they have made a gimmick where the headmasters are interchangeable between size classes and made a far greater variety of size classes that interact with the headmaster.  In G1 the headmasters were all of a size with one another with the exception of Scorponok and Fort Max.  Whereas with TR we've not only got a Fort Max, but we have leaders, voyagers, and deluxes that all have interchangeable heads and even some legends that have integrated headmaster compartments.

We do live in a great time and my irritation with Hasbro for being lazy with Fort Max should not overshadow my love for all the other things they are doing in the same way that being critical of my daughter's overuse of the word 'like' 5 times in a sentence doesn't mean I love her less.  ;-)
You want "play integration" but when Hasbro gives you some they hear

(it) would have been more appropriate than the two red mini-ramps that are meant to marry up with completely different figures someone may or may not own.

 

 

Yes, I'd rather the figure be a complete toy itself before it starts trying to be compatible with everything else.  Sort of like a hitch on my car is great to be able to tow a trailer.  But don't leave the hood of the car off so that I can have a hitch.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:56 AM

I got Fort Max for Christmas, and Metroplex a couple of Christmases ago, and honestly? I love him. Honestly, I don't feel he's much like Metroplex at all, even despite the shared parts, save for in robot mode, where some of the iffier issues are shared as well (i.e. kind of a wobbly stance).

 

That said, not having owned a G1 Fort Max, I still want to. He just seems better overall, though TR Fort Max does kind of have his own thing going on. Different from Metroplex, but not as well done as G1. I still want to get a rifle for Cerebros, and a large gun for the robot and ship modes.

 

Really, the best way to describe Fort Max as being like a compromise between G1 Fort Max and Generations Metroplex. The base mode has grown on me as well.

 

But if you own Metroplex and want Trypticon? I'd probably say save for Trypticon, though that also depends on your feelings about Fort Max being Fort Max. I've wanted Fort Max for three decades, and I'm probably not getting him any time soon (and for what my wife paid for TR, she might have been able to get the reissue for not much more), so this is good by me.

 

Then again, part of that probably owes to the longtime fantasy of "being" Spike, being in command of this huge base and this huge starship and joining with this huge robot. Fortress Maximus was the realization of what Spike was supposed to be, that relatable connection between the viewer and the Transformers themselves.

 

So yeah, your mileage may vary.

 

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