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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 November 2017 - 01:25 PM)

I could handle going back to not existing. x.x;

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2017 - 01:14 PM)

Life is the brief recess we get from not existing before going back to not existing.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 November 2017 - 01:10 PM)

Nah.. Life is simply the precursor to death.

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2017 - 12:41 PM)

Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 November 2017 - 08:37 AM)

You won't be at school or work anymore... so mitigated success.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2017 - 05:21 PM)

Just don't try to plug yourself into an outlet. It won't end well.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM)

Trying to stay awake at work or school is a lot like using your controller when it's on low battery

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

If you're used to doing it with tabs, that makes sense. It doesn't feel weird for me.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Also, it just feels weird if switching between webpages uses the same actions as switching between programs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I switch between different things on the browser and click on various plugins and stuff far more often than switching from program to program.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:19 AM)

Yeah I'm mostly just venting from frustration rather than trying to convince anyone, though @NotVeryNightly I will point out that the windows for the other programs I'm running are at the bottom of the screen as well.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Tabs are on the top, near the address bar, browser tools, plugins and whatnot so the cursor will be there frequently anyway. Switching windows would require going down the screen.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 10:03 AM)

I mean, you do you. No bigs. You've just got a fairly unique stance that surprised me.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM)

I haven't seen words on the bottom bar of the screen since XP.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM)

All of which is put on the point that I don't care if people want to use tabs, I just want the option to not have them present for me on my browser.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:12 AM)

@Shrug- A quick glance at the bottom of the screen shows me what is open and where. Load times are basically so trivial that the load indicator on a tab is something I didn't notice until you mentioned it. The "which instance is playing noise" is a fair point but has basically only really been approaching meaningful for me maybe twice in all the time tabs have existed.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:07 AM)

@NotveryKnightly- I have never encountered a situation where that is true, especially given that tabs are on the other side of the screen to the other things I'm switching through.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:06 AM)

@ Nevermore- The windows at the bottom have the names of the websites on them, presuming you don't collapse them.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:08 AM)

Geez, this is reminding me of the awful pre-tab days.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

I can look at the tab to see if it hasn't finished loading yet. Now you can see which tab is playing sound, so no need to hunt through windows to find a video ad that started playing.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And a quick glance lets me know whats open and where. No clicking multiple windows hunting for something. No waiting for some window preview to pop up (which wasn't available when tabs first started.)

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Switching between tabs is way quicker than between windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:09 AM)

It's like having a clear structore with sub-directores, instead of just having all files on your computer stored in one giant directory.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:08 AM)

This way, I can switch between windows and then select the tab, instead of always trying to remember which window is for which website.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:07 AM)

I find one browser window with multiple tabs a lot easier to handle alongside other windows than multiple browser windows alongside other windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

I find multiple tabs a lot more comfortable than multiple windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

erm... no?

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 03:26 AM)

On mobile devices and whatever I understand why tabs would be a thing, but on a full desktop browser it's just- "Hey, here's a thing that's kind of like opening a new window, but objectively worse in every practical way"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 November 2017 - 01:41 AM)

Someone remind me again: which versions of the CW Hot Spot mold did not suffer from bad hip ratcheting?

@  BlackMax : (16 November 2017 - 06:33 PM)

Holy crap I just pushed the F11 key for the first time on a keyboard since about 1994.

@  Shrug : (16 November 2017 - 01:11 PM)

tabs being wretched bs is definitely an opinion I've never seen before

@  RC85747 : (16 November 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Vivaldi lets you hide the tab bar

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 07:45 AM)

Yeah but that gets rid of everything else as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 November 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Hit F11 Pennpenn

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:15 AM)

I get that people like tabs. Fine. Whatever. I just detest the fact that most current browsers don't let you have the option of just hiding the bar away so I don't have to even think about the wretched bullshit things.

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a browser that doesn't force tabs on you? Just... any sodding browser that doesn't have tabs.

@  Telly : (16 November 2017 - 01:59 AM)

being mostly wrong is better than being TOTALLY wrong!

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 09:26 PM)

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED OCTOBUTT.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 08:24 PM)

I really hope so. All of my high school drawings and notes (Hand-written notes! God, I'm old.) from girls are in a chest in the attic of my parents house. I'll check when I visit!

@  MEDdMI : (15 November 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Do you still have those drawings?

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 06:31 PM)

I think lesbian ninjas is just an unmitigated good idea. *shrug*

@  Devcon : (15 November 2017 - 05:56 PM)

well, that and Balloon Doggies, Mr secretary

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM)

It's my crowning Allspark achievement! You're welcome.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:05 PM)

"Someone" being me. No mystery to it, I used to draw a lot during class when I was in high school. I came up with lesbian ninjas, which were a specialized team of assassins with amazing hair and impeccable style. I scanned some of my drawings and mentioned them a few times on the ezboard 17 years ago, and people seemed to like the idea.

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Thanks in any case!

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Oh, wow. That is ages ago. 

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:03 PM)

ages ago meaning when the spark was still on ezboard

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:02 PM)

i think maybe it was part of a title of a movie someone posted ages ago and the "lesbian ninja" part stood out and people just latched on to it. please note this is possibly totally and completely wrong cause my memory is terrible anymore

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 12:11 PM)

I don't think it's a fandom thing, I think it's an Allspark thing. Or that's been my perception. Mayhem has some lesbian ninja regulars now but I think the reference is much older. = ] 

@  Robowang : (15 November 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Who knows. I always thought it was stupid.


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#1 Gizmoboy

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:40 AM

My funds for Transformers is limited this year and with the reveal yesterday of Trypticon, he is on my short list.  My question is I have passed on Fort Max for a little while now but had planned on picking him up.  After reading some feedback from others about him being so close to Metroplex in feel and transformation, I am questioning if he is worth the expense knowing everything else coming out this year.
 
For those of you that own both (or even if you just own one of the other), what is your opinion on this.  Is it worth it for someone already owning Metroplex to drop what limited funds they may have to pick up Fortress Maximus?



#2 unluckiness

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:43 AM

No. Headmaster aside, Metroplex does everything Max does but better. Moderately better city mode, much better vehicle mode, more little playfeatures in base mode, actual weaponry (well Takara's has the sword but still, Max needs guns) 


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:44 AM

He's nice, but short of Cerebros / Fortress you're not missing much if you have Metroplex.

 

I find the original Fortress Maximus to be better overall.  Minus Cerebros / Fortress as I mentioned.

 

The noises and sword on the Japanese one are especially nice.  I have all 3, and kind of like the various versions of Metroplex and Devastator, kind of feel that the other versions are not worth having once you have one.

 

But yeah, he's neat but I don't feel he's as good as the original or Metroplex.

 

Cerebros / Fortress is one of my favorite (if not my favorite) Titanmasters though.




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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:50 AM

If the choice is between him or Trypticon I'd definitely get Trypticon if you already have Metroplex.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:55 AM

If the choice is between him or Trypticon I'd definitely get Trypticon if you already have Metroplex.

 

Wholeheartedly this.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:58 AM

Fort Max is absolutely not worth it if you already have Metroplex unless you just really, really want Cerebros.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:05 AM

what if you dont have either metroplex OR fort max, but have g1 fort max?


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:07 AM

If you have G1 Fort Max, TR Max is completely unnecessary.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:09 AM

It still comes down to how much you want Cerebros/Spike. Which are admittedly really cool.

 

The G1 Fort Max body is still probably better - better fortress and space modes, stable points of articulation, actual firepower.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:23 AM

what if you dont have either metroplex OR fort max, but have g1 fort max?

 

 

 

If you have G1 Fort Max, TR Max is completely unnecessary.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:31 AM

I can't justify both Fortress Maximus AND Metroplex, but I have Metroplex and totally wish I had Maximus instead, since red and blue are totally cooler colours than white. So your mileage may vary.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:32 AM

I kinda touched on this over in the Trypticon thread.  I think part of what is making Titan Masters such a successful line for so many of us is the fact that Hasbro has given us something that we didn't even get with G1 Headmasters.

#1.  An entire line of Headmasters rather than just a subline

#2.  Play integration and swap-ability between all size classes.

#3.  Smaller transformable vehicles as well as base-modes for almost all larger than deluxe figures.

#4.  Titan Master features in the guns and larger figures specifically designed around the Titan Masters.

 

There was thought and almost a sense of frolic on the part of the designers with the Titan Master's line.  What you saw with the Fort Max remold of Metroplex is a completely safe and already done gimmick.  TR Fort Max doesn't have the 'Largest Transformer Ever' moniker that Metroplex was able to carry.  He wasn't the first of his kind as Metroplex was.  He also took a 30 year old gimmick and offered us nothing really new about it.  What's more....Hasbro couldn't even be bothered to provide proper ramps cover those stupid hands and we are literally talking about possibly $1 in plastic.  Fort Max was a lazy half-hearted attempt...even for a kids toy.

I still bought it, still spent way too much to have Cheets paint it up nice for me.  But at the end of the day I agree with others here.  There is no reason to own him if you have the original and that says a huge amount given how much we all love our updates to those iconic characters.  


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:51 AM

As I said I got to play with one that was returned to my store and he looks fantastic he is on my short to get list

And this from someone that has Titan Metroplex and 2 G1 Fort Maxes


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:56 AM

I like TR Fort Max probably more than it deserves but I would also agree with most everyone's assessment here. Both Gens Metroplex and G1 Fort Max do their jobs better than TR Max does. In fact I'd even say that Metroplex scales better with Titan Masters than it does the figures from its own line. It just doesn't have the little foot pegs. 


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

I can't believe it took that long for someone to call Fort Max lazy.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:17 PM

As I said I got to play with one that was returned to my store and he looks fantastic he is on my short to get list
And this from someone that has Titan Metroplex and 2 G1 Fort Maxes

you probably just plan on wielding him like a gun the same way you did with the G1 one :p
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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:19 PM

If you really want a cartoon-style Cerebros and a decent giant body to stick him on, he's totally worth it. Cerebros is really fun. 

 

I wouldn't buy it for the really great base mode, though. Really Great Base Mode is not included. 


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:34 PM

Funnily enough I'm in the opposite boat. Metroplex came and went during a time where I really couldn't afford big ticket toys so I never got it. By the time that changed it was a $200+ item on the secondary market. No thanks. But then a $75 shipped Fort Max came into my life and I love it. In fairness the closest I ever got to the G1 was a Brave Max that I had to sell off like eight years ago so there was never any decision to make there.

 

So for me absent a reissue or something weird like a batch showing up at TJ Maxx all these years later I'll probably never own Titan Metroplex. And life goes on just fine. :p



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:53 PM

I do wish they'd included a sticker for the great damn big sticker indent on the "base" mode.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:56 PM

 

If the choice is between him or Trypticon I'd definitely get Trypticon if you already have Metroplex.

 

Wholeheartedly this.

 

This is my thinking too. I am saving my funds and space for Trypticon to go next to my Metroplex.

It's odd, that now space is becoming more of an issue than funds.


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