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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#1 Sockie

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 08:57 PM

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COSMOS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

Please have Gnaw or someone come to his rescue... it wasn't supposed to happen like this! (or at all!)  :(

 

Cool to see Milne on this issue of OP, though.


Edited by Sockie, 09 February 2017 - 09:02 PM.


#2 Locoman

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:10 PM

I wonder if the guy in the big pod is the original Ultra Magnus... we never did find out what happened to him, did we?


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:12 PM

I wonder if the guy in the big pod is the original Ultra Magnus... we never did find out what happened to him, did we?

 

I think it's more than likely Killmaster. The person in there is holding what looks just like Killmaster's wand, with the sparking tip, and the solicit mentions how whoever it is is going to try to kill Whirl.

 

Methinks Whirl may have been fibbing a bit when he told how he slew Killmaster.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:13 PM

My initial guess as I was reading the page was that it would be Killmaster, since he's huge and dangerous which would justify it being locked, and his "archenemy" Whirl is there, who I;ve always assumed was bullshitting about having killed him. And then I got to the last panel, and that sure as SHOOT looks like a hand holding a wand...

 

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#5 Unit Eleven

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:17 PM

Since the names Nightbeat's rattling off include Turmoil, I'm gonna go ahead and say Starscream killed the rest of them as well.

 

Neat to see Adjudicus make it beyond "unused name for Tyrest", even if it is just as "some dude Starscream killed".


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Wasn't Piston one of the Autobot fighting the Seekers in Spotlight: Blurr?


 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:24 PM

Is this the first time Swerve and Whirl have interacted? Aside from like the second issue when Whirl woke up and choked Rung and Swerve made some jokes?

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:34 PM

COSMOS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Cosmos has been in worse predicaments.

(I don't know if he has, I just wanted to quote that line)

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:39 PM

Ah, see, I was looking at the silhouette from the side and assuming that it was UM's head in profile.


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#10 Razorsaw

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:51 PM

Killmaster? Really?

 

Even for LL that feels kinda self indulgent.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:35 PM

Wasn't Piston one of the Autobot fighting the Seekers in Spotlight: Blurr?

Yep. And I liked that the list included some Decepticon-sounding names other than Turmoil, that seems to fit Starscream.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:35 PM

cosmos is fine. he's great. he's a-ok. soundwave is gonna come save him and their two awful sons. but he doesn't need to because cosmos is fine. he doesn't have a scratch on him.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:44 PM

Nice to get Zeta not drawn by Ramondelli.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

Nice to get Zeta not drawn by Ramondelli.

 

Yeah, it's hard to think of him with reflective surfaces.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:27 PM

Hooray, a Whirl episode!

 

 

I wonder if we'll see what Killmaster's wand even does. Assuming it's an actual weapon and not something hokey like his lover's spark or whatever.

Also, "Questex." That's begging for a Quest joke.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:35 PM

Ooh, I just remembered something highly interesting that makes it even more likely it's Killmaster.

The geobomb was based off of Killmaster's "moongun" design. And what more than likely sent the protagonists to the Functionist Universe? The geobomb. They're probably going to need his help to get back to the regular universe.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:40 PM

Cyclonus explains that sparing Whirl's life allowed him to later save Tailgate, and before he can finish the sentence Whirl is already wearing Killmaster's head as a hat.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 04:57 AM

Nice to get Zeta not drawn by Ramondelli.

 

Indeed. We actually have a useful Transformer-esque design for him now.

 

It probably is Killmaster, but I was wondering if that might be Thunderwing, who's location is unknown.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:42 AM

My first thought when I looked at the page was that it's the 'original' Star Saber, specifically inserted to placate the kind of people who said they'd drop the comic but can't stop paying attention to it at any cost. Needless to say, I'm much happier that actual analysis indicates it's Killmaster.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:19 AM

Man, I've missed Milne. OP's looking great, but it'll look significantly less great if Cosmos doesn't make it out. (Also, I hope that Wreck-Gar sticks around in some form, because I love him.)

 

Revolutionaries is good, but feels like it's still a little too decompressed for the one-story-per-issue pace. I'm guessing that Ian's responding to Mercy, though?


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