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@  Patchouli Kn... : (24 February 2017 - 11:19 PM)

The Allspark is one bad mother...

@  Foffy the Sheep : (24 February 2017 - 10:09 PM)

My Allspark has never heard of a mother.

@  BlackMax : (24 February 2017 - 09:28 PM)

My mother has never heard of an Allspark.

@  The Doctor Who : (24 February 2017 - 08:54 PM)

This is your mother on Allspark drugs.

@  Bass X0 : (24 February 2017 - 08:42 PM)

This is your Allspark. This is drugs. This is your Allspark on drugs.

@  unluckiness : (24 February 2017 - 08:33 PM)

"if i was a mom, this would be shocking."

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2017 - 06:37 PM)

Your MOM is Patrick!

@  ShadowMan024 : (24 February 2017 - 04:39 PM)

NO! THIS IS PATRICK!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 February 2017 - 02:56 PM)

https://www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=NlMT-oEIQuo

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2017 - 02:53 PM)

He's a complicated man, and no one understands him but his woman.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 February 2017 - 02:50 PM)

No, this is Patrick.

@  Rycochet : (24 February 2017 - 12:52 PM)

This is 29 Acacia Road, and this is Eric, the schoolboy who leads an exciting double life. For when Eric eats a banana, an amazing transformation occurs.... Eric is Bananaman, ever alert for the call to action!

@  Robowang : (24 February 2017 - 12:22 PM)

Peter Piper picked my pecker

@  RichardT1977 : (24 February 2017 - 11:31 AM)

This script is batnanas. B-A-T-N-A-N-A-S.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 February 2017 - 08:27 AM)

Bats in SPAAAAAAACE!

@  Waspinator : (24 February 2017 - 02:58 AM)

breathes in space

@  MEDdMI : (23 February 2017 - 10:40 PM)

Banananananananaaabatman

@  ShadowMan024 : (23 February 2017 - 10:28 PM)

Batamarangutan.

@  The Doctor Who : (23 February 2017 - 08:30 PM)

Batamarang

@  MEDdMI : (23 February 2017 - 08:15 PM)

Batmeese.

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 February 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Batmae.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2017 - 02:41 PM)

I think it's pronounced "batman incorporated"...

@  D Immortalis : (23 February 2017 - 02:41 PM)

Batmans is more fun to say but i think, sadly, its batmen

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2017 - 02:36 PM)

Is the plural of Batman Batmans or Batmen?

@  Vexwing : (23 February 2017 - 12:32 PM)

I'd be excited if it were within the realm of affordability.

@  Benbot : (23 February 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Transmetal or GTFO

@  Robowang : (23 February 2017 - 11:21 AM)

HORACE STATUE

@  Crypt : (23 February 2017 - 09:41 AM)

Anyone else excited about that Prime 1 Studio BW Megatron? It looks amazing

@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p


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#1 Spectre

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

Didn't think I'd be posting here again for a long while, but I wrote a piece about why I'm moving on from toy collecting that got good feedback so I figured some of you might find something in it as well. 

 

https://medium.com/@...0710#.42odhalej

 

Peace. 


Edited by Spectre, 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

Good read. Getting a bit of those vibes myself, and so it's... nice to see it put into words this well.

Cheers, Spectre.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:11 PM

Well said.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:41 PM

Welp, you do anything for over 30 years and burn out will eventually set in.  It's why people change careers or move or get divorced or any number of things, so I understand this completely and say that it's for a better, happier you.  So go do that!  It's good!

 

Which really reminds me that I need to seriously pare down stuff in the future.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

* Spark gets divorced



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:49 PM

*My nonexistent wife will be crushed.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

All the Best in your next 30 year adventure Spectre 


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#8 LV!

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:59 PM

Just remember that when you decide you're not into tattoos anymore, they're a lot harder to sell.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

Human skin holds its value quite well, actually. 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:19 PM

Unseriously:

 

I believe I had a very heart-felt confessional such as this at one point on the AllSpark, and even ended it with "Till all are one." Know what I got?

 

"Pfft, whatever dude; you'll be back. That's what they all say, but you'll be back."

 

 

So yeah; you'll be back. ;)

 

More serious:

 

This really spoke to me:

 

There is an undeniable satisfaction to completing a particular set of characters in a display — like watching a puzzle piece slot in exactly where it’s supposed to go. But then the moment is over…and you just have a bunch of things. It doesn’t feel like I’ve really achieved much of anything.

 

 

I remember the last entire collections of any line that I got, and the way I felt about it right afterward was exactly this. To date, I have all the Beast Machines Vehicons, Prime (show) Decepticons, Power Core Combiners, AoE Dinobots and Autobots, and a couple more "complete collections" I can't recall. But after every single "achievement;" after I got that last "puzzle piece" slid into that slot, I felt... nothing. Like I completely wasted my time. Like now I have to pack all this shit up, or that there's no room to store it all in one place. There's something to be said about completing collections; now that I have (some), I can definitely say, it was all about the chase, and nothing more, unfortunately.

 

How I've kind of circumvented this? It's to go only after the ones that I want, like you say. My wife's helped me tons with this. She has me ask myself:

 

"Is this something I want? And why? What are you willing to not do in place of the expense of this figure?"

 

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control, "because other people want it" or "because it's rare" (which is another way of saying it's because other people want it) or "I just felt like buying something" or "I'm getting it to make me feel better", then it's not something that I need to get, nor should I get it, and it's a purchase that's wasted a lot of my budget, time, and space in the past. This also applies to the "complete collection" dynamic; the last piece in a set isn't always the best figure, because I usually would have gotten all the good figures that I wanted.

 

All is to say: if I get the ones I want because like the character, mold, or color, it's OK. To complete a collection, or because of its availability, or as therapy, are all not OK. This has helped me SO much people, lemme tell ya.

 

As for this:

As the line has grown, it’s flirted more and more with strict accuracy to these cartoon depictions, to the point where they have fewer and fewer embellishments and real-world elements to their designs, looking instead like the physical manifestation of an animation cel.

 

 

Yeah, having been introduced into TFs during G1, but it becoming a THING for me didn't start till Beast Wars, so I pretty much could have cared less for most of the Masterpiece. And the couple that I have, I hated the cartooniness of each of'em, to the point where I refuse to get anymore.

 

But, as for line aesthetics, those change over time, and it might change to the point of: "you'll be back." ;)

 

And:

Three, this hobby is incredibly expensive, both in money and time. Especially the aforementioned Masterpiece line. Individual toys range from $80 to several hundred a piece. And I spend a lot of time and energy on forums and planning out purchases and designing my display. It’s an investment, and I find myself wishing I had more room in my budget for other things. I want to travel more. I want to get tattooed. I want to donate money to good causes. And I want more time for things like books, and games, and art. I want to be more active in my community and do more good. More experiences and stories, fewer things.

 

 

This factors into my wife's third question of what I'm willing to not do with her in place of the expense of figure x. One less coffee outing. One less dinner. One less movie. One less trip. Less time with her. The choice, is obvious....

 

(I go with the figure! :wtf)

 

But no, seriously, it helps me prioritize my life and expand what's important in it, and it's not just TFs.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 09 February 2017 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:41 PM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:32 PM

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

Actually an apt way of capturing how it feels sometimes, and why stepping away is healthy.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:29 AM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.

 

Sure! Thank you for the thoughtful article. :thumbsup

 

At any rate, it just sounds like you made the switch to where I am now (to which I say: "congrats!" :p) and it's just moderating your hobby into what it should have always been in the first place: a hobby. Something fun. Something entertaining. If it becomes to feel like an obsession, or is carried out like an obligation at any point, it has ceased to be what it was intended to be all along, and it becomes a source of negativity in your life that needs to be cut out or curtailed back into a form where it's once again a positive aspect. There's enough negativity out there to go around; you don't need to fabricate and nurture one all on your own to carry around with you because Reasons, especially out of something that is supposed to bring you joy (they are toys after all, for cripes' sake).

 

Anyway good luck, and having been on the other side of this transition for a little bit, I can say this:

 

- I have traveled more

- I can and have donated (mostly time) to good causes

- I am more active in my community (I've joined local politics to eff off Trump! :D)

- I do have more money for art, furniture, books, (a wedding, a honeymoon, a HOUSE...)

- I don't have more tattoos, but....

- I have been engaged in so many other experiences, have stories that can only be told over beers or joints, and other assorted guilty pleasures not TF-related, but that are so much more rewarding.

 

And I'm trying to get rid of things, as I see the 50+ 40-gallon totes as hindrances, rather than achievements, and it's a liberating place to be.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 10 February 2017 - 10:31 AM.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:09 AM

Good luck with the new endeavors. It was great to meet you back at Botcon... 2014? Your postings will be missed here!

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

When you get into collecting, only one of two things can happen--you eventually lose interest and stop, or you die.  I often wonder why I collect these little plastic gems since I can't keep them indefinitely.  I can't give them up yet, but it makes me sad to know that someday I will, one way or another.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. (Fan being short for fanatic makes a lot more sense after you spend time with someone far more diehard than yourself.)  I'm recently back into Transformers after a 7 year hiatus and I completely understand where you're coming from.  I love fiction about robots and having toy robots, but if you can't find an enjoyment out of owning something besides simply owning it, you need to reevaluate it.   I hadn't really bought any new figures for 2 years before I stopped.  It felt like the brand was heading in a direction not for me, just as you feel now.

For me, the toy line has only just recently shifted in my direction and that's why I'm back.  But I also have much better understanding of what I want out of it as a hobby now.  Maybe you'll be back some day, maybe you won't.  Just remember that it's not time wasted if you enjoyed it while it lasted.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

I've been collecting as an adult for 21 years now and my interest has never really waned.  There have been periods where the product on the shelves didn't interest me much but those were temporary lulls which I kind of like because my wallet gets a break.  So at this point, I doubt I'll ever completely give it up as long as I'm physically and financially able to collect.

 

Now that I've stumbled into a little sub-hobby of adding silly captions to silly toy photos, my collection has sort of gained a new life.  I'm regularly picking up and playing with old toys that I haven't touched in months or years.  (Although perhaps my newfound addiction to Likes and RTs and Notes isn't entirely healthy.)


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:20 PM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. 

I do find that my enjoyment of what I have massively increases when I take a break from online shenanigans for a long while.  Granted, that's true of a lot of things.  That devil computer box.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

I've found that participation in online fandom typically causes my interest to either plummet or, very occasionally, skyrocket.

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