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@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 02:18 AM)

Can I just say that right now... I hate the USA?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

There are languages where the days are named for numbers and Sunday is "one". Like Arabic.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 01:31 AM)

Isn't it sort of a religious thing for Sunday to be the start of the week but most people just go with the first day they go to work for the week?

@  unitremover : (20 January 2018 - 01:02 AM)

I feel like I've known plenty of Americans who'd say Monday is the first day of the week.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 12:57 AM)

Personally Monday will always be the first day of the week for me. The notion that Sunday is somehow the first day of the week seems completely nonsensical to me.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 12:57 AM)

I'm fairly sure it is in Australia, but that tends to get blurred because of US influence.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 12:19 AM)

(It's Sunday here in the U.S.)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 12:18 AM)

Anyone here live in a country where Monday is considered the first day of the week?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 January 2018 - 08:40 PM)

Maybe?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (19 January 2018 - 08:38 PM)

But do they search barf?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Under water, the fish don't stink.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 January 2018 - 07:42 PM)

I read that at first as "Everyone is a fish...."

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2018 - 06:08 PM)

Everyone has a fetish, I guess.

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2018 - 05:56 PM)

I parsed it as "search barf" at first.

@  Nevermore : (19 January 2018 - 05:05 PM)

Robowang nude hiden cam photos

@  Robowang : (19 January 2018 - 02:54 PM)

Oh, hey, that's not the search bar! Whoops.

@  Robowang : (19 January 2018 - 12:48 PM)

reflector camera mode

@  MEDdMI : (19 January 2018 - 12:14 PM)

But did you get a Snowbombcyclopsragnarokdoomstorm like the US NE got last week?

@  Nevermore : (19 January 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Netherlands? We got one hell of a storm here in Germany the other day too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2018 - 01:59 AM)

When that happens in Cocoa Beach there's always someone getting out their surfboard.

@  CORVUS : (19 January 2018 - 12:04 AM)

Damn!

@  Telly : (18 January 2018 - 10:29 PM)

holy hug

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 January 2018 - 06:27 PM)

Goddamn look what happened to the Dutch this week.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 January 2018 - 06:27 PM)

https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/954066379610628097

@  Locoman : (18 January 2018 - 03:43 PM)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand brick and mortar.

@  siccoyote : (18 January 2018 - 04:31 AM)

Who sings the first part of the GIJoe The Movie theme song? (Cobra) Sounds so familiar.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:46 PM)

Also true.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 10:40 PM)

I hate brick and mortar stores around here.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:38 PM)

But I like the feel of the brick and mortar search a bit more. And I can see inside packages at brick and mortar. True, Amazon has a good return policy, but I like buying once and settling.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:37 PM)

I suppose I could save more if I bought more often from Amazon.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 10:36 PM)

Closest I got to "free" was 30% off warpath, which just about lined him up to the canadian price had he ever shown up around me. The pile of loot saved me a pile, but it was still pricy.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:34 PM)

Yeah, I purposefully waited on them because I knew they'd be perfect "add onto orders to get free shipping" fodder. Already gotten two that way. Technically "free" and I barely had to wait.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 09:21 PM)

That's how I feel about Prime Masters. Getting back into collecting last year taught me to be patient, which grants rewards most of the time.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:18 PM)

I want Starscream so hard after seeing him in person, but since he's the one being left behind by every other collector in my area, I feel like I can wait for a sale.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:09 PM)

I mean: I maybe woulda jumped on starscream if I found a sale or something, but it wasn't a priority.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:08 PM)

I only wanted the dinobots (cause... volcanicus.) but got saddled with three I didn't want due to the bundling. I'd still be waiting to order if I had waited on individual figures.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 08:27 PM)

Ahh.. I just ordered the whole case cause I wanted too. :)

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

Mostly PotP dinobots. Plus some stuff I couldn't opt out of to get those dinobots. And CW warpath... cause he was on sale.


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#1 Spectre

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

Didn't think I'd be posting here again for a long while, but I wrote a piece about why I'm moving on from toy collecting that got good feedback so I figured some of you might find something in it as well. 

 

https://medium.com/@...0710#.42odhalej

 

Peace. 


Edited by Spectre, 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

Good read. Getting a bit of those vibes myself, and so it's... nice to see it put into words this well.

Cheers, Spectre.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:11 PM

Well said.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:41 PM

Welp, you do anything for over 30 years and burn out will eventually set in.  It's why people change careers or move or get divorced or any number of things, so I understand this completely and say that it's for a better, happier you.  So go do that!  It's good!

 

Which really reminds me that I need to seriously pare down stuff in the future.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

* Spark gets divorced



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:49 PM

*My nonexistent wife will be crushed.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

All the Best in your next 30 year adventure Spectre 


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#8 LV!

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:59 PM

Just remember that when you decide you're not into tattoos anymore, they're a lot harder to sell.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

Human skin holds its value quite well, actually. 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:19 PM

Unseriously:

 

I believe I had a very heart-felt confessional such as this at one point on the AllSpark, and even ended it with "Till all are one." Know what I got?

 

"Pfft, whatever dude; you'll be back. That's what they all say, but you'll be back."

 

 

So yeah; you'll be back. ;)

 

More serious:

 

This really spoke to me:

 

There is an undeniable satisfaction to completing a particular set of characters in a display — like watching a puzzle piece slot in exactly where it’s supposed to go. But then the moment is over…and you just have a bunch of things. It doesn’t feel like I’ve really achieved much of anything.

 

 

I remember the last entire collections of any line that I got, and the way I felt about it right afterward was exactly this. To date, I have all the Beast Machines Vehicons, Prime (show) Decepticons, Power Core Combiners, AoE Dinobots and Autobots, and a couple more "complete collections" I can't recall. But after every single "achievement;" after I got that last "puzzle piece" slid into that slot, I felt... nothing. Like I completely wasted my time. Like now I have to pack all this shit up, or that there's no room to store it all in one place. There's something to be said about completing collections; now that I have (some), I can definitely say, it was all about the chase, and nothing more, unfortunately.

 

How I've kind of circumvented this? It's to go only after the ones that I want, like you say. My wife's helped me tons with this. She has me ask myself:

 

"Is this something I want? And why? What are you willing to not do in place of the expense of this figure?"

 

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control, "because other people want it" or "because it's rare" (which is another way of saying it's because other people want it) or "I just felt like buying something" or "I'm getting it to make me feel better", then it's not something that I need to get, nor should I get it, and it's a purchase that's wasted a lot of my budget, time, and space in the past. This also applies to the "complete collection" dynamic; the last piece in a set isn't always the best figure, because I usually would have gotten all the good figures that I wanted.

 

All is to say: if I get the ones I want because like the character, mold, or color, it's OK. To complete a collection, or because of its availability, or as therapy, are all not OK. This has helped me SO much people, lemme tell ya.

 

As for this:

As the line has grown, it’s flirted more and more with strict accuracy to these cartoon depictions, to the point where they have fewer and fewer embellishments and real-world elements to their designs, looking instead like the physical manifestation of an animation cel.

 

 

Yeah, having been introduced into TFs during G1, but it becoming a THING for me didn't start till Beast Wars, so I pretty much could have cared less for most of the Masterpiece. And the couple that I have, I hated the cartooniness of each of'em, to the point where I refuse to get anymore.

 

But, as for line aesthetics, those change over time, and it might change to the point of: "you'll be back." ;)

 

And:

Three, this hobby is incredibly expensive, both in money and time. Especially the aforementioned Masterpiece line. Individual toys range from $80 to several hundred a piece. And I spend a lot of time and energy on forums and planning out purchases and designing my display. It’s an investment, and I find myself wishing I had more room in my budget for other things. I want to travel more. I want to get tattooed. I want to donate money to good causes. And I want more time for things like books, and games, and art. I want to be more active in my community and do more good. More experiences and stories, fewer things.

 

 

This factors into my wife's third question of what I'm willing to not do with her in place of the expense of figure x. One less coffee outing. One less dinner. One less movie. One less trip. Less time with her. The choice, is obvious....

 

(I go with the figure! :wtf)

 

But no, seriously, it helps me prioritize my life and expand what's important in it, and it's not just TFs.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 09 February 2017 - 05:21 PM.

I'm not Antifa, I'm not violent. But try to look at it from my perspective for 5 seconds. I see 1 side who wants my hugging blood. Literally. And I see another standing in opposition of them, clearly willing to take any stance they need to to stop them. Then I see a bunch of people hemming and hawing and wringing their hands about the whole thing.

 

Who am I supposed to feel more protected by?

 


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:41 PM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:32 PM

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

Actually an apt way of capturing how it feels sometimes, and why stepping away is healthy.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:29 AM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.

 

Sure! Thank you for the thoughtful article. :thumbsup

 

At any rate, it just sounds like you made the switch to where I am now (to which I say: "congrats!" :p) and it's just moderating your hobby into what it should have always been in the first place: a hobby. Something fun. Something entertaining. If it becomes to feel like an obsession, or is carried out like an obligation at any point, it has ceased to be what it was intended to be all along, and it becomes a source of negativity in your life that needs to be cut out or curtailed back into a form where it's once again a positive aspect. There's enough negativity out there to go around; you don't need to fabricate and nurture one all on your own to carry around with you because Reasons, especially out of something that is supposed to bring you joy (they are toys after all, for cripes' sake).

 

Anyway good luck, and having been on the other side of this transition for a little bit, I can say this:

 

- I have traveled more

- I can and have donated (mostly time) to good causes

- I am more active in my community (I've joined local politics to eff off Trump! :D)

- I do have more money for art, furniture, books, (a wedding, a honeymoon, a HOUSE...)

- I don't have more tattoos, but....

- I have been engaged in so many other experiences, have stories that can only be told over beers or joints, and other assorted guilty pleasures not TF-related, but that are so much more rewarding.

 

And I'm trying to get rid of things, as I see the 50+ 40-gallon totes as hindrances, rather than achievements, and it's a liberating place to be.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 10 February 2017 - 10:31 AM.

I'm not Antifa, I'm not violent. But try to look at it from my perspective for 5 seconds. I see 1 side who wants my hugging blood. Literally. And I see another standing in opposition of them, clearly willing to take any stance they need to to stop them. Then I see a bunch of people hemming and hawing and wringing their hands about the whole thing.

 

Who am I supposed to feel more protected by?

 


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:09 AM

Good luck with the new endeavors. It was great to meet you back at Botcon... 2014? Your postings will be missed here!

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

When you get into collecting, only one of two things can happen--you eventually lose interest and stop, or you die.  I often wonder why I collect these little plastic gems since I can't keep them indefinitely.  I can't give them up yet, but it makes me sad to know that someday I will, one way or another.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. (Fan being short for fanatic makes a lot more sense after you spend time with someone far more diehard than yourself.)  I'm recently back into Transformers after a 7 year hiatus and I completely understand where you're coming from.  I love fiction about robots and having toy robots, but if you can't find an enjoyment out of owning something besides simply owning it, you need to reevaluate it.   I hadn't really bought any new figures for 2 years before I stopped.  It felt like the brand was heading in a direction not for me, just as you feel now.

For me, the toy line has only just recently shifted in my direction and that's why I'm back.  But I also have much better understanding of what I want out of it as a hobby now.  Maybe you'll be back some day, maybe you won't.  Just remember that it's not time wasted if you enjoyed it while it lasted.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

I've been collecting as an adult for 21 years now and my interest has never really waned.  There have been periods where the product on the shelves didn't interest me much but those were temporary lulls which I kind of like because my wallet gets a break.  So at this point, I doubt I'll ever completely give it up as long as I'm physically and financially able to collect.

 

Now that I've stumbled into a little sub-hobby of adding silly captions to silly toy photos, my collection has sort of gained a new life.  I'm regularly picking up and playing with old toys that I haven't touched in months or years.  (Although perhaps my newfound addiction to Likes and RTs and Notes isn't entirely healthy.)



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:20 PM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. 

I do find that my enjoyment of what I have massively increases when I take a break from online shenanigans for a long while.  Granted, that's true of a lot of things.  That devil computer box.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

I've found that participation in online fandom typically causes my interest to either plummet or, very occasionally, skyrocket.

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