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@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Another great 90's animated film is, of course, The Iron Giant.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Another thing I liked about The Prince of Egypt was that it explained (without even having to say it outright) why Moses was chosen to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. Someone who had been raised among the slaves would have had too much bitterness and would want to go in throwing the wrath of God on all the Egyptians (or at least the royal family) until they all burned alive. But Moses had been raised as a member of the royal family, so he still thought of them as family. He wanted to reach a peaceful solution if at all possible.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:04 PM)

"I know! I'll turn him into a flea. A harmless little flea, and then I'll put that flea in a box, and then put that box inside of another box, and when it arrives - AHAHAHA! I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH! It's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT, I tell you! Genius, I say!"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:03 PM)

Hell, The Emperor's New Groove is easily the funniest animated film ever. Disney managed to do what Dreamworks tried to do, and they did it right.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

None of their "funny" movies are anywhere near as funny as Aladdin or The Emperor's New Groove.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Its a pity Dreamworks devolved into a company that churned out "funny" films filled with pop culture references.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:00 PM)

(also at the end of that scene, the camera pans up from the Egyptian skyline to the night sky and the most prominent constellation is Orion. Which the Egyptians associated with Osiris)

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

Yeah I give them full credit for treating the Last Plague with all the solemness it deserves.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

It freed the Israelites, but Moses sure hated seeing what it did to his brother and all the normal non-slave owning people who didn't do anything wrong to the Israelites.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:58 PM)

And it actually portrays God murdering children as a tragic thing, something most other adaptations disturbingly don't do.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

So that what He told Moses becomes, "I'll lay the smackdown on Egypt, but I should warn you it's only gonna make Rameses dig in his heels more until I have no choice but to break him fully."

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:56 PM)

It also describes the "hardening of the Pharoah's heart" as his natural reaction to the plagues rather than an intentional mental override by God.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:54 PM)

Hell, it actually portrays the Plagues as something that's bad and treats most of the Egyptian people as not deserving that shit. "All the innocent who suffer from your stubbornness and pride" and all that.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I'm a Christian, but Prince of Egypt is one of the few religious movies I'll willingly watch, because it's actually good instead of being self-rightous preachy nonsense, batshit crazy propaganda or schmaltzy trash. It also has a great soundtrack with music that I actually put up there with some of Disney's best stuff.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:45 PM)

Dreamworks's best movies will always be the Dragons movies and The Prince of Egypt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Usually I'm willing to give animated films a go, but I have to agree this looked pretty terrible and I had no desire to see it

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

So it's the new "Bee Movie?"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:16 PM)

Calling it now: it'll be a meme in ten years.

@  Paladin : (26 March 2017 - 02:07 PM)

every single person who said "yes" to BOSS BABY should be smacked. repeatedly. with adamantium.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 06:02 AM)

Yeah, I don't sync my Twitter since it's irrelevant to a TF forum and sometimes NSFW.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 06:00 AM)

Ah, okay. I... don't know if that's a good idea or not. I post a lot of cats.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:50 AM)

I believe it will auto post anything you put on Twitter/Facebook to the Status section on the main forum page?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:41 AM)

And I totally miss Krispy Kreme. I mean, they're still around here, but nowhere I don't have to go well out of my way for any more. =(

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:40 AM)

"i think you can sync profiles from both to this site." Not clear on what that means.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

:D I'm glad I have people and sheep who are willing to eat doughnuts for me.

@  Bass X0 : (26 March 2017 - 04:48 AM)

YOU'RE ALREADY CRAZY, MR. "I AM SHRAPNEL, DECEPTICON HERO"!!

@  Waspinator : (26 March 2017 - 04:45 AM)

DON'T MIND IF I DO

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 March 2017 - 04:07 AM)

Go crazy?

@  Waspinator : (26 March 2017 - 03:31 AM)

No TV and no beer make Homer something something

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 March 2017 - 02:18 AM)

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (26 March 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Then again, I'd hate to fill up on Krispy Kremes right before dinner. What if I just bite his face off instead?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (26 March 2017 - 12:49 AM)

Yup.

@  OrionPax44 : (26 March 2017 - 12:48 AM)

MED has a fool proof protection plan. Foffy and I will eat all the Krispy Kreme donuts that stand in here way. Right Foffy?

@  Telly : (26 March 2017 - 12:08 AM)

*throws a krispy kreme* bite that! :p

@  Foffy the Sheep : (25 March 2017 - 11:59 PM)

Anyone who was going to try use MED's weaknessses against her would have to go through me first. And I'm warning you, I bite.

@  Telly : (25 March 2017 - 11:17 PM)

we now know meddmis weakness *rubs hands together sinisterly*

@  MEDdMI : (25 March 2017 - 04:44 PM)

My friends and I sold them in college for fundraising. We often had boxes of them sitting around. I can still smell them. I won't be touching them again unless I'm forced to.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I love love love the hot Krispy Kreme donuts. They opened one in my area and for the first few weeks there was a line out the door of people waiting for hot donuts.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2017 - 02:33 PM)

OFF WITH HIS HEAD! Whoa... okay, that was a total over reaction. What I meant to say was... OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!

@  D Immortalis : (25 March 2017 - 12:52 PM)

honestly i'm not much of fan of Krispy Kreme.

@  Hg Dragon : (25 March 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Who DOESN'T want Krispy Kreme?!?!

@  Noideaforaname : (25 March 2017 - 11:12 AM)

Diabetes? Pftt. I'm a survivor!

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2017 - 11:04 AM)

But diabetes tastes so goooodddd....

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 March 2017 - 09:06 AM)

Nah, I can do without diabetes.

@  Bass X0 : (25 March 2017 - 08:37 AM)

So... who wants Krispy Kreme donuts?

@  Paladin : (25 March 2017 - 06:50 AM)

i think you can sync profiles from both to this site.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

So I'm looking around at my settings at the moment, and I'm noticing "Manage Facebook" and "Manage Twitter," but I have to log in with those to see anything. What do those offer?

@  Robowang : (24 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

Thanks.

@  Jalaguy : (24 March 2017 - 03:38 PM)

A gun was definitely jumped, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Big apology to everyone who wanted to stay spoiler-free.

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 March 2017 - 03:08 PM)

Oh hey the news post in question turned up on my Tumblr dash, too. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot.


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#1 Spectre

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

Didn't think I'd be posting here again for a long while, but I wrote a piece about why I'm moving on from toy collecting that got good feedback so I figured some of you might find something in it as well. 

 

https://medium.com/@...0710#.42odhalej

 

Peace. 


Edited by Spectre, 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

Good read. Getting a bit of those vibes myself, and so it's... nice to see it put into words this well.

Cheers, Spectre.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:11 PM

Well said.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:41 PM

Welp, you do anything for over 30 years and burn out will eventually set in.  It's why people change careers or move or get divorced or any number of things, so I understand this completely and say that it's for a better, happier you.  So go do that!  It's good!

 

Which really reminds me that I need to seriously pare down stuff in the future.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

* Spark gets divorced



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:49 PM

*My nonexistent wife will be crushed.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

All the Best in your next 30 year adventure Spectre 


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:59 PM

Just remember that when you decide you're not into tattoos anymore, they're a lot harder to sell.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

Human skin holds its value quite well, actually. 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:19 PM

Unseriously:

 

I believe I had a very heart-felt confessional such as this at one point on the AllSpark, and even ended it with "Till all are one." Know what I got?

 

"Pfft, whatever dude; you'll be back. That's what they all say, but you'll be back."

 

 

So yeah; you'll be back. ;)

 

More serious:

 

This really spoke to me:

 

There is an undeniable satisfaction to completing a particular set of characters in a display — like watching a puzzle piece slot in exactly where it’s supposed to go. But then the moment is over…and you just have a bunch of things. It doesn’t feel like I’ve really achieved much of anything.

 

 

I remember the last entire collections of any line that I got, and the way I felt about it right afterward was exactly this. To date, I have all the Beast Machines Vehicons, Prime (show) Decepticons, Power Core Combiners, AoE Dinobots and Autobots, and a couple more "complete collections" I can't recall. But after every single "achievement;" after I got that last "puzzle piece" slid into that slot, I felt... nothing. Like I completely wasted my time. Like now I have to pack all this shit up, or that there's no room to store it all in one place. There's something to be said about completing collections; now that I have (some), I can definitely say, it was all about the chase, and nothing more, unfortunately.

 

How I've kind of circumvented this? It's to go only after the ones that I want, like you say. My wife's helped me tons with this. She has me ask myself:

 

"Is this something I want? And why? What are you willing to not do in place of the expense of this figure?"

 

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control, "because other people want it" or "because it's rare" (which is another way of saying it's because other people want it) or "I just felt like buying something" or "I'm getting it to make me feel better", then it's not something that I need to get, nor should I get it, and it's a purchase that's wasted a lot of my budget, time, and space in the past. This also applies to the "complete collection" dynamic; the last piece in a set isn't always the best figure, because I usually would have gotten all the good figures that I wanted.

 

All is to say: if I get the ones I want because like the character, mold, or color, it's OK. To complete a collection, or because of its availability, or as therapy, are all not OK. This has helped me SO much people, lemme tell ya.

 

As for this:

As the line has grown, it’s flirted more and more with strict accuracy to these cartoon depictions, to the point where they have fewer and fewer embellishments and real-world elements to their designs, looking instead like the physical manifestation of an animation cel.

 

 

Yeah, having been introduced into TFs during G1, but it becoming a THING for me didn't start till Beast Wars, so I pretty much could have cared less for most of the Masterpiece. And the couple that I have, I hated the cartooniness of each of'em, to the point where I refuse to get anymore.

 

But, as for line aesthetics, those change over time, and it might change to the point of: "you'll be back." ;)

 

And:

Three, this hobby is incredibly expensive, both in money and time. Especially the aforementioned Masterpiece line. Individual toys range from $80 to several hundred a piece. And I spend a lot of time and energy on forums and planning out purchases and designing my display. It’s an investment, and I find myself wishing I had more room in my budget for other things. I want to travel more. I want to get tattooed. I want to donate money to good causes. And I want more time for things like books, and games, and art. I want to be more active in my community and do more good. More experiences and stories, fewer things.

 

 

This factors into my wife's third question of what I'm willing to not do with her in place of the expense of figure x. One less coffee outing. One less dinner. One less movie. One less trip. Less time with her. The choice, is obvious....

 

(I go with the figure! :wtf)

 

But no, seriously, it helps me prioritize my life and expand what's important in it, and it's not just TFs.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 09 February 2017 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:41 PM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:32 PM

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

Actually an apt way of capturing how it feels sometimes, and why stepping away is healthy.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:29 AM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.

 

Sure! Thank you for the thoughtful article. :thumbsup

 

At any rate, it just sounds like you made the switch to where I am now (to which I say: "congrats!" :p) and it's just moderating your hobby into what it should have always been in the first place: a hobby. Something fun. Something entertaining. If it becomes to feel like an obsession, or is carried out like an obligation at any point, it has ceased to be what it was intended to be all along, and it becomes a source of negativity in your life that needs to be cut out or curtailed back into a form where it's once again a positive aspect. There's enough negativity out there to go around; you don't need to fabricate and nurture one all on your own to carry around with you because Reasons, especially out of something that is supposed to bring you joy (they are toys after all, for cripes' sake).

 

Anyway good luck, and having been on the other side of this transition for a little bit, I can say this:

 

- I have traveled more

- I can and have donated (mostly time) to good causes

- I am more active in my community (I've joined local politics to eff off Trump! :D)

- I do have more money for art, furniture, books, (a wedding, a honeymoon, a HOUSE...)

- I don't have more tattoos, but....

- I have been engaged in so many other experiences, have stories that can only be told over beers or joints, and other assorted guilty pleasures not TF-related, but that are so much more rewarding.

 

And I'm trying to get rid of things, as I see the 50+ 40-gallon totes as hindrances, rather than achievements, and it's a liberating place to be.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 10 February 2017 - 10:31 AM.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:09 AM

Good luck with the new endeavors. It was great to meet you back at Botcon... 2014? Your postings will be missed here!

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

When you get into collecting, only one of two things can happen--you eventually lose interest and stop, or you die.  I often wonder why I collect these little plastic gems since I can't keep them indefinitely.  I can't give them up yet, but it makes me sad to know that someday I will, one way or another.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. (Fan being short for fanatic makes a lot more sense after you spend time with someone far more diehard than yourself.)  I'm recently back into Transformers after a 7 year hiatus and I completely understand where you're coming from.  I love fiction about robots and having toy robots, but if you can't find an enjoyment out of owning something besides simply owning it, you need to reevaluate it.   I hadn't really bought any new figures for 2 years before I stopped.  It felt like the brand was heading in a direction not for me, just as you feel now.

For me, the toy line has only just recently shifted in my direction and that's why I'm back.  But I also have much better understanding of what I want out of it as a hobby now.  Maybe you'll be back some day, maybe you won't.  Just remember that it's not time wasted if you enjoyed it while it lasted.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

I've been collecting as an adult for 21 years now and my interest has never really waned.  There have been periods where the product on the shelves didn't interest me much but those were temporary lulls which I kind of like because my wallet gets a break.  So at this point, I doubt I'll ever completely give it up as long as I'm physically and financially able to collect.

 

Now that I've stumbled into a little sub-hobby of adding silly captions to silly toy photos, my collection has sort of gained a new life.  I'm regularly picking up and playing with old toys that I haven't touched in months or years.  (Although perhaps my newfound addiction to Likes and RTs and Notes isn't entirely healthy.)


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:20 PM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. 

I do find that my enjoyment of what I have massively increases when I take a break from online shenanigans for a long while.  Granted, that's true of a lot of things.  That devil computer box.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

I've found that participation in online fandom typically causes my interest to either plummet or, very occasionally, skyrocket.

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