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@  unluckiness : (19 June 2018 - 08:33 AM)

I can dig it

@  unluckiness : (19 June 2018 - 08:21 AM)

So Thunderbolts with giant robots?

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Thundercracker, in particular.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Some of the Decepticons start to really enjoy being the good guys. Well, they enjoy the act, at least. They find fulfillment in their assumed personas.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Except SHockwave eventually betrays his teammates and teams up with Skynet.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Starscream becomes the young, eager Nightscream, and so on.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

Megatron becomes the noble Megabolt, taking cues from Beast Wars Silverbolt.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

A Thunderbolts-esque masquerade.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

In order to do so, the Decepticons pretend to be the good guys and take on different personas.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:18 PM)

So Megatron decides that hey, the Autobots are stillback on Cybertron, so why not team up with the humans, defeat Skynet, then double-cross the humans?

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

Unfortunately, the Skynet/humans war is already going on, and Skynet is evolving rapidly.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

The Decepticons discover Earth and want to plunder its resources.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

It would have a really crazy twist:

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

I've had this crazy idea for a Transformers/Terminator crossover for years.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:20 PM)

Specifically I'd like to see Skynet's army rise up against him (he did refer to them as an "army of slaves" in Genisys), or even perhaps a peace-minded iteration of Skynet that's existed in a humanoid form long enough to gain some compassion for the human point of view

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:19 PM)

A peaceful resolution would be satisfying for me (it's the only resolution possible in The Matrix series, too), but I think the majority of Terminator fans would walk out think WTF?

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:15 PM)

I liked Clarke as Sarah as well, although I read a lot of complaints online that she looked too young, but I thought she was pretty badass.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 June 2018 - 05:11 PM)

I think across these movies, there's a very compelling story about a progressive temporal arms race driven by mutual fear in which Judgement Day keeps getting pushed back, which only gives both sides more time for technological development, and the only true resolution to it is cooperation. But cooperation will never come about because each side fears being wiped out by the other.

@  Paladin : (18 June 2018 - 05:05 PM)

Genisys basically made Sara Connors' entire motivation in stopping judgement day stem from not wanting to sleep with Jai Courtney. and really, can you blame her?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 June 2018 - 03:52 PM)

I'll give Genisys another thing, Emilia Clarke made a damn good Linda Hamilton. (As for Jai Courtney looking nothing like Michael Biehn, that just supports my theory that it's not always the same "Kyle Reese" sent back which would explain why John Connor looks different in almost every movie.)

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2018 - 02:54 PM)

I'm not, I'm lost in music.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 June 2018 - 12:59 PM)

What, again?

@  2018 : (18 June 2018 - 06:33 AM)

It's a time warp. We're trapped in the past.

@  Pennpenn : (18 June 2018 - 05:44 AM)

A rick roll? Really?

@  Waspinator : (17 June 2018 - 11:03 PM)

On the subject of a Mega Man movie

@  Msol : (17 June 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Man I really wish Slash was blue instead of red. Swoop looks off as the only blue one. What a missed opportunity!

@  Otaku : (17 June 2018 - 04:23 PM)

@Bass X0 So, getting back to Mega Man as a movie and smart-aleck answers, wouldn't Astroboy (2009) count? ;) Otherwise, I'm torn; part of me is glad they haven't tried given Hollywood's track record.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2018 - 01:52 PM)

and some TV show...

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2018 - 01:35 PM)

John Connor?! John Connor! JOHN CONNORRRRR!!!!

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 12:26 PM)

Pretty sure that's what happened to John Connor in that last one

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2018 - 12:17 PM)

you eat them.... THEY EAY YOU

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2018 - 11:57 AM)

Nanomachines, son!

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2018 - 11:49 AM)

@Nevermore Rice of fhe Macheens: taking over the world with evil robots the size of rice grains.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 11:36 AM)

It eventually goes off the rails, but the bones of an interesting story are there. I enjoyed it more than Rise of the Machines or Salvation

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 11:26 AM)

There was Genysis, Jujjmend Dae, Salvayshon and Rice of the Macheens, or something.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 11:25 AM)

I actually re-watched Genisys the other day, and I'll give it one thing. The beginning of the movie with the pre-Terminator 1 future scenes all looked really fantastic.

@  Xellos : (17 June 2018 - 11:08 AM)

Five, actually, with a sixth in development. Varying degrees of cannonicity between them, though.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2018 - 07:59 AM)

There was only two movies, right?

@  Paladin : (17 June 2018 - 07:08 AM)

overall, lousy. there's one great one, one pretty good one and everything else under that brand sucks.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 June 2018 - 06:52 AM)

uuuhhh, what do you think the terminator movies are?

@  Bass X0 : (17 June 2018 - 06:35 AM)

Why has Mega Man never been given a Hollywood movie?

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:32 AM)

Considering at least half our workforce is not of "German" descent, racism should really have no place at our workplace.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:23 AM)

The one thing that really fascinated me was how he was so adamant that his kids have to learn German that he insisted on only speaking German at home. I'm not saying that this is the one true way to do it, but I did respect him for that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:22 AM)

Always cheerful, always friendly. Leaves behind a wife and three kids.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:21 AM)

I'd have done this either way, but in this case it particularly pissed me off because the deceased coworker was literally the nicest person you could possibly hope to meet.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2018 - 04:18 AM)

He deserved it to be suspended. What an imbecile.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:17 AM)

****ing disgusting racist.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:16 AM)

Guy was immediately suspended from work.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:16 AM)

He literally said in my face "they only make a big fuss because that token negro died". I said "dude, what are you saying?" He said "my parent taught me to say what I think." I said "bad enough for you to think like that." and then reported him.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:15 AM)

So I told this other longtime employee that I was planning to go to the funeral, and he went on a tirade about how "other people had died too", and this was only treated as a big deal because this guy was black.


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#1 Spectre

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

Didn't think I'd be posting here again for a long while, but I wrote a piece about why I'm moving on from toy collecting that got good feedback so I figured some of you might find something in it as well. 

 

https://medium.com/@...0710#.42odhalej

 

Peace. 


Edited by Spectre, 09 February 2017 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

Good read. Getting a bit of those vibes myself, and so it's... nice to see it put into words this well.

Cheers, Spectre.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:11 PM

Well said.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:41 PM

Welp, you do anything for over 30 years and burn out will eventually set in.  It's why people change careers or move or get divorced or any number of things, so I understand this completely and say that it's for a better, happier you.  So go do that!  It's good!

 

Which really reminds me that I need to seriously pare down stuff in the future.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

* Spark gets divorced



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:49 PM

*My nonexistent wife will be crushed.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

All the Best in your next 30 year adventure Spectre 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:59 PM

Just remember that when you decide you're not into tattoos anymore, they're a lot harder to sell.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

Human skin holds its value quite well, actually. 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:19 PM

Unseriously:

 

I believe I had a very heart-felt confessional such as this at one point on the AllSpark, and even ended it with "Till all are one." Know what I got?

 

"Pfft, whatever dude; you'll be back. That's what they all say, but you'll be back."

 

 

So yeah; you'll be back. ;)

 

More serious:

 

This really spoke to me:

 

There is an undeniable satisfaction to completing a particular set of characters in a display — like watching a puzzle piece slot in exactly where it’s supposed to go. But then the moment is over…and you just have a bunch of things. It doesn’t feel like I’ve really achieved much of anything.

 

 

I remember the last entire collections of any line that I got, and the way I felt about it right afterward was exactly this. To date, I have all the Beast Machines Vehicons, Prime (show) Decepticons, Power Core Combiners, AoE Dinobots and Autobots, and a couple more "complete collections" I can't recall. But after every single "achievement;" after I got that last "puzzle piece" slid into that slot, I felt... nothing. Like I completely wasted my time. Like now I have to pack all this shit up, or that there's no room to store it all in one place. There's something to be said about completing collections; now that I have (some), I can definitely say, it was all about the chase, and nothing more, unfortunately.

 

How I've kind of circumvented this? It's to go only after the ones that I want, like you say. My wife's helped me tons with this. She has me ask myself:

 

"Is this something I want? And why? What are you willing to not do in place of the expense of this figure?"

 

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control, "because other people want it" or "because it's rare" (which is another way of saying it's because other people want it) or "I just felt like buying something" or "I'm getting it to make me feel better", then it's not something that I need to get, nor should I get it, and it's a purchase that's wasted a lot of my budget, time, and space in the past. This also applies to the "complete collection" dynamic; the last piece in a set isn't always the best figure, because I usually would have gotten all the good figures that I wanted.

 

All is to say: if I get the ones I want because like the character, mold, or color, it's OK. To complete a collection, or because of its availability, or as therapy, are all not OK. This has helped me SO much people, lemme tell ya.

 

As for this:

As the line has grown, it’s flirted more and more with strict accuracy to these cartoon depictions, to the point where they have fewer and fewer embellishments and real-world elements to their designs, looking instead like the physical manifestation of an animation cel.

 

 

Yeah, having been introduced into TFs during G1, but it becoming a THING for me didn't start till Beast Wars, so I pretty much could have cared less for most of the Masterpiece. And the couple that I have, I hated the cartooniness of each of'em, to the point where I refuse to get anymore.

 

But, as for line aesthetics, those change over time, and it might change to the point of: "you'll be back." ;)

 

And:

Three, this hobby is incredibly expensive, both in money and time. Especially the aforementioned Masterpiece line. Individual toys range from $80 to several hundred a piece. And I spend a lot of time and energy on forums and planning out purchases and designing my display. It’s an investment, and I find myself wishing I had more room in my budget for other things. I want to travel more. I want to get tattooed. I want to donate money to good causes. And I want more time for things like books, and games, and art. I want to be more active in my community and do more good. More experiences and stories, fewer things.

 

 

This factors into my wife's third question of what I'm willing to not do with her in place of the expense of figure x. One less coffee outing. One less dinner. One less movie. One less trip. Less time with her. The choice, is obvious....

 

(I go with the figure! :wtf)

 

But no, seriously, it helps me prioritize my life and expand what's important in it, and it's not just TFs.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 09 February 2017 - 05:21 PM.

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Were bleeding out
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Like cake in a crisis
Were bleeding out
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#11 Spectre

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:41 PM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:32 PM

If at any point the reason is something along the lines of an external locust of control

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

Actually an apt way of capturing how it feels sometimes, and why stepping away is healthy.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:29 AM

I'm glad it resonated with you! Thanks for the thoughtful response. 

 

I certainly don't intend to cut myself off or anything, and this isn't really a goodbye. I'm still a fan of Transformers, but I'm just choosing to engage with the brand differently. For toys, i'm keeping a few choice pieces, but I'm just shifting away from having a big, dedicated collection display. 

 

Perhaps, someday, I'll be in a mindset where building a collection makes sense, definitely not discounting that as a possibility. But if I get there again, it'll be a choice made with intention, rather than something I've kept up with out of momentum.

 

Sure! Thank you for the thoughtful article. :thumbsup

 

At any rate, it just sounds like you made the switch to where I am now (to which I say: "congrats!" :p) and it's just moderating your hobby into what it should have always been in the first place: a hobby. Something fun. Something entertaining. If it becomes to feel like an obsession, or is carried out like an obligation at any point, it has ceased to be what it was intended to be all along, and it becomes a source of negativity in your life that needs to be cut out or curtailed back into a form where it's once again a positive aspect. There's enough negativity out there to go around; you don't need to fabricate and nurture one all on your own to carry around with you because Reasons, especially out of something that is supposed to bring you joy (they are toys after all, for cripes' sake).

 

Anyway good luck, and having been on the other side of this transition for a little bit, I can say this:

 

- I have traveled more

- I can and have donated (mostly time) to good causes

- I am more active in my community (I've joined local politics to eff off Trump! :D)

- I do have more money for art, furniture, books, (a wedding, a honeymoon, a HOUSE...)

- I don't have more tattoos, but....

- I have been engaged in so many other experiences, have stories that can only be told over beers or joints, and other assorted guilty pleasures not TF-related, but that are so much more rewarding.

 

And I'm trying to get rid of things, as I see the 50+ 40-gallon totes as hindrances, rather than achievements, and it's a liberating place to be.


Edited by Megaplex Prime, 10 February 2017 - 10:31 AM.

You're waiting on miracles
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Like cake in a crisis
Were bleeding out
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Bodies accumulate
Sit and talk like Jesus
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:09 AM

Good luck with the new endeavors. It was great to meet you back at Botcon... 2014? Your postings will be missed here!

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

When you get into collecting, only one of two things can happen--you eventually lose interest and stop, or you die.  I often wonder why I collect these little plastic gems since I can't keep them indefinitely.  I can't give them up yet, but it makes me sad to know that someday I will, one way or another.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. (Fan being short for fanatic makes a lot more sense after you spend time with someone far more diehard than yourself.)  I'm recently back into Transformers after a 7 year hiatus and I completely understand where you're coming from.  I love fiction about robots and having toy robots, but if you can't find an enjoyment out of owning something besides simply owning it, you need to reevaluate it.   I hadn't really bought any new figures for 2 years before I stopped.  It felt like the brand was heading in a direction not for me, just as you feel now.

For me, the toy line has only just recently shifted in my direction and that's why I'm back.  But I also have much better understanding of what I want out of it as a hobby now.  Maybe you'll be back some day, maybe you won't.  Just remember that it's not time wasted if you enjoyed it while it lasted.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

I've been collecting as an adult for 21 years now and my interest has never really waned.  There have been periods where the product on the shelves didn't interest me much but those were temporary lulls which I kind of like because my wallet gets a break.  So at this point, I doubt I'll ever completely give it up as long as I'm physically and financially able to collect.

 

Now that I've stumbled into a little sub-hobby of adding silly captions to silly toy photos, my collection has sort of gained a new life.  I'm regularly picking up and playing with old toys that I haven't touched in months or years.  (Although perhaps my newfound addiction to Likes and RTs and Notes isn't entirely healthy.)



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:20 PM

I personally find even just lurking in any fandom exhausting and often find myself only dipping my toe into one for a period of time. 

I do find that my enjoyment of what I have massively increases when I take a break from online shenanigans for a long while.  Granted, that's true of a lot of things.  That devil computer box.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

I've found that participation in online fandom typically causes my interest to either plummet or, very occasionally, skyrocket.

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