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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#41 tec

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:24 PM

I...I just assumed everyone had a Armada Demolisher or at least a version of him already he is still a very fun TF to this day


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:32 PM

You never know; maybe I was the last one! Maybe we all have a Demolisher now, and all is as it should be. :)

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 01:45 AM

Most Armada toys were pretty fun IMO, to be honest. I might be biased because they were part of my childhood (I grew up with BW and the UT), but I love the Mini-Con gimmick. I like the idea of smaller robots attaching to bigger robots and powering them up. It's probably why I like TR way more than CW.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:49 AM

I don't know if it counts, but Titans Return singlehandedly changed my opinion on Headmasters to a very positive one.

Also, every time I buy a CW figure nowadays I believe I'll be bored with it instantly, but damn if Bluestreak and Impactor haven't proven endlessly fun.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 04:42 AM

I don't get all the dislike for RiD Steeljaw... he's not a favorite from the line but I dig his vehicle mode and the fact that he's a digitigrade wolf in robot mode was one of the niftiest things I'd seen thus far.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 07:34 AM

I like Demolishor a lot, he's the only Armada figure I think wouldn't be better executed if they did the whole line again now.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:27 AM

Armada was fantastic. Even everyone's favorite "worst toy ever" Sideswipe had an addictive gimmick and cool weapons. 


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:45 AM

As far as the Armada had a couple of good toys at the beginning of the line. Demolisher and Cyclonus had great minicons that really fit into their toy designs.  Later on we go some good to decent toys like Tidalwave, Thrust, and Bendy Prime. For the most part though, the line isn't worth pulling out of the rubbermaid bin.

 

Energon had some great toys that paid homage to G1, like Battle Ravage, Rodimus, Prowl,  INsecticon, starscream, Skyblast, Scorponok, Megatron, Omega Supreme, and the first combiners in years! However, this line introduced me to the Terracon Horde and its leader, Divebomb. Divebomb was the first TF toy that I got that I had no idea how awesome he would be. Definitely one of my favorite toys and one that I think best fits the topic for me.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:40 PM

Divebomb is still my favorite bird TF.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:51 PM

Yup.  Still have a sweet spot for VHS Airazor, but Divebomb was so sleek and clever at the time.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:54 PM

"At the time?" He's still the Animated Prowl of bird TFs.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:34 PM

With a robot mode to match.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:05 PM

Armada...wasn't a very good toyline if you like articulation and show-accuracy, but holy hell did it make up for it in sheer fun gimmicks. I'd say the closest to it would be Fast Action Battlers.



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:49 PM

It was pretty show accurate outside of Starscream and Tidal Wave's colors.  


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 04:30 PM

Armada was fantastic. Even everyone's favorite "worst toy ever" Sideswipe had an addictive gimmick and cool weapons.

I think it's weird that people consider Sideswipe the worst toy because he isn't even the worst "deluxe" Armada Autobot. I don't particularly like him, but I'd rather buy him again than Blurr or Smokescreen.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 04:38 PM

And I love Smokescreen working wench, super huge cannon, nice colors good Mini-con


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 05:12 PM

Wait. Liftor's a girl?
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Posted 14 February 2017 - 06:15 PM

Titans Return Highbrow was so powerfully boring he made me reconsider the hobby entirely. 



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 06:15 PM

Wait. Liftor's a girl?

Damn, now I'm wishing AVP was still around to make this canon...


Edited by ShadowMan024, 14 February 2017 - 06:16 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 06:37 PM

......Oh dam it!! ><


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