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@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.


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#21 Creedence

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 07:05 PM

RID Steeljaw. I wasn't aware of just how bad the toy was till I recently got him. Yikes.

#22 HellCat

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 04:07 AM

I had the opposite reaction to TR Fort Max, where I bought one and was, like, "Ehhhhh...  I think I may have just wasted a chunk of cash here."

My issue with both Titans so far is someone clearly just designed a giant action figure and then added in half hearted transformation afterwards. Maximus 'base/city' mode is just the figure laying down on its back. You're doing something wrong when a 30 years older toy has a better looking city and ship modes.



#23 LiamA

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 06:36 AM

Blazemaster from Revenge of the Fallen.  Looks good in pictures but is a complicated mess in hand.



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 01:49 PM

Sharkticon Megatron looked like such a great toy. It was not.



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 02:15 PM

Blazemaster from Revenge of the Fallen.  Looks good in pictures but is a complicated mess in hand.

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#26 Caboo

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 02:19 PM

Blazemaster from Revenge of the Fallen. Everyone hated the mold and I expected it to suck, but was pleasantly surprised to find that it's a decent figure that just needed some tightening up at the hips to be a proper horrible stilt-monster.



#27 The Satan

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:28 PM

I'd like him better if he had real arms

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:08 PM

 

I had the opposite reaction to TR Fort Max, where I bought one and was, like, "Ehhhhh...  I think I may have just wasted a chunk of cash here."

My issue with both Titans so far is someone clearly just designed a giant action figure and then added in half hearted transformation afterwards. Maximus 'base/city' mode is just the figure laying down on its back. You're doing something wrong when a 30 years older toy has a better looking city and ship modes.

 

And leaving that big Metroplex joint in the chest while changing the rest of it was just god damn weird.  And making zero effort to make those legs fold up further despite them being just big empty boxes.  The sound gimmick doesn't really make up for it.  Titan Metroplex pretty much does everything better.

 

Sharkticon Megatron looked like such a great toy. It was not.

Not helped by it having misassembled shoulders, either.  On the other hand, I expected FE Bulkhead to be some kind of nightmare from pictures of the transformation, and that ended up being one of my favorites of the entire line.


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#29 Robowang

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:14 PM

I always heard Beast Changer, aka Savage Noble, was an awful toy. I picked one up last year and I love it. Awesome dragon monster thing? Check. Demon Werewolf mode? Check. Easy but fun transformation? Check. Definitely a cool toy.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:28 PM

There's a section of the fandom that considers every Beast Machines figure an awful toy.  I love that line.  It's like the most risk-taking line in Transformers history.

 

Which I'll tie back around to the topic on the grounds that I thought most of the Maximals were going to suck from the pictures, but here I am, still liking the hell out of most them.  Except Geckobot.  That toy still sucks.  And looks like it sucks.


Edited by Spark, 13 February 2017 - 01:30 PM.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 02:19 PM

There's a section of the fandom that considers every Beast Machines figure an awful toy.

 

Indeed, some hate Beast Machines with a religious fury.  You can find online arguments about how Generations Tankor should have been OG toy accurate instead of show accurate because that show they never watched was horrible so the True© Tankor was the toy.  Only just so they can be as contrary as possible.


Edited by Diecast, 13 February 2017 - 02:21 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 02:46 PM

There's a section of the fandom that considers every Beast Machines figure an awful toy.

 
Indeed, some hate Beast Machines with a religious fury.  You can find online arguments about how Generations Tankor should have been OG toy accurate instead of show accurate because that show they never watched was horrible so the True©[/size] Tankor was the toy.  Only just so they can be as contrary as possible.

I'm just bummed that they could've just scaled-up Tank Drone, and I would've liked that more than the Generations deluxe.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

I love all the Vehicons(Even Blast Charge) and have very little love for the Maximals (Save for Night Slashy Cheetor) I wont hide that fact and for the record I bought a great many of them so its not just me saying so for no reason

 

I simply do like what they did and how badly the Maximals got nurfed in show and in toy form


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:19 PM

I was going to say "I don't think you know what 'nurfed' means" but then I realized I don't think I know what "nurfed" means.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

Nurfed as in tone down the there firepower thanks to the shows forunners deciding that. but also Nurfing in a since that that the designers where hand tied as well

 

Some of the Maximals outside the show design where good Buzzsaw, the Shark guy, and few others where better off but man oh man show characters suffered ...poor Silverbolt


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:32 PM

RotF Mixmaster, Voyager size. Such a fiddly ball-ache. Robot mode is suitable terrifying and the truck mode is really good, but the effort it takes to go from one to the other... it's one of exactly two toys I will probably never willingly try to play with again.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:59 PM

RID Steeljaw. Not a good way to start a line, and the fact that it was the first (and for months, only) Decepticon figure in the mainline was one of the main reasons a lot of people gave up on the line. Kinda glad I slogged through that and the other early stuff - Quillfire and Scorponok are really good, Bisk is downright amazing, Soundwave looks fantastic, and I'm really hyped for Blurr.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:13 PM

Jesus Christ tec it's Nerf.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:16 PM

:D Finally someone cracked dam I had a 5er on Copper


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:18 PM

I was not expecting to love TR Kup even a quarter as much as I do. I thought the first pictures we saw made him look abysmal, but bought him as he seemed like he'd look fun crewed by Dia-nauts. He's now one of my favourite Titans Return toys; he's just so fun and surprisingly nice looking in-hand.

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But the biggest surprise of my trip to Asia has to be this guy; looks badass as all hell, laden with effective-yet-unobtrusive gimmicks, really rather posable, and I just kinda love how his upper legs transform:

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