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@  Bass X0 : (25 March 2017 - 08:37 AM)

So... who wants Krispy Kreme donuts?

@  Paladin : (25 March 2017 - 06:50 AM)

i think you can sync profiles from both to this site.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

So I'm looking around at my settings at the moment, and I'm noticing "Manage Facebook" and "Manage Twitter," but I have to log in with those to see anything. What do those offer?

@  Robowang : (24 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

Thanks.

@  Jalaguy : (24 March 2017 - 03:38 PM)

A gun was definitely jumped, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Big apology to everyone who wanted to stay spoiler-free.

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 March 2017 - 03:08 PM)

Oh hey the news post in question turned up on my Tumblr dash, too. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot.

@  Robowang : (24 March 2017 - 10:29 AM)

I was actually looking forward to playing along with the surprise aspect this time, yes. I'm not heartbroken or anything, but it would have been fun. It's more the lack of consideration by some newb mod.

@  EShadowP : (24 March 2017 - 10:25 AM)

The only silver lining to this being the final TFSS is the fact that I no longer have to explain to people why some of us actually ENJOY THE @#$%ing SURPRISE ASPECT OF THE SUBSCRIPTION.

@  Robowang : (24 March 2017 - 07:24 AM)

Wow, not that big a deal, but the big front page article revealing the TFSS figures is pretty douchey considering a lot of people were discussing the surprise element and there was already a spoiler thread set up. Nice move.

@  Robowang : (23 March 2017 - 08:45 AM)

Yikes. Sounds more like GTA.

@  Dracula : (23 March 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Someone drove a car through a crowd of people and then into the front gates of parliament, I think, and stabbed a police officer before being killed by other officers

@  Robowang : (23 March 2017 - 08:10 AM)

I coincidentally watched London Has Fallen yesterday afternoon, heard an offhand remark about a terrorist attack in London on the radio yesterday afternoon, and somehow put the two together in my sleepy haze. I need to read what actually happened.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 March 2017 - 11:21 PM)

That's relieving to hear.

@  Jalaguy : (22 March 2017 - 05:33 PM)

All good here, I don't work that far into the city.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2017 - 05:00 PM)

I'm way up north, so yeah.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 March 2017 - 02:34 PM)

I just saw the news. Are all of you Britons on this board alright?

@  Telly : (22 March 2017 - 01:20 PM)

spoilers dude!

@  Paladin : (22 March 2017 - 12:26 PM)

I'm pretty sure Kong doesn't fight Fox Studios...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 March 2017 - 12:25 PM)

I didn't know he was meeting the Fantastic Four's enemies.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2017 - 12:18 PM)

I might watch Kong: Skrull Island this weekend.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 March 2017 - 10:48 AM)

(At least I'm assuming it was "instead." I guess I don't know for sure that Eddie Murphy's character wouldn't have been Kirk's love interest.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 March 2017 - 10:47 AM)

I dunno about that. Star Trek IV was pretty great but I'm haunted by the knowledge that at one point instead of a love interest it was going to have Eddie Murphy.

@  Paladin : (22 March 2017 - 07:28 AM)

you know a remake/movie's in trouble when adding Eddie Murphy to it might make things BETTER...

@  unluckiness : (22 March 2017 - 06:45 AM)

Is Eddie Murphy still Mushu?

@  Waspinator : (21 March 2017 - 11:56 PM)

The captain Mulan falls in love with is also getting replaced by a new character

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:32 PM)

As long as we get the men throwing their manliness around, then crossdressing, I'll be happy.

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:30 PM)

what....? b-but that song's so awesome! *lookd up info* oh, it's just "for now", but could change since it's not planned for release until 2018.

@  Waspinator : (21 March 2017 - 08:22 PM)

Oh wow, you're not kidding: they're actually planning to remake Mulan without the songs. Idiots.

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:16 PM)

I'LL... MAKE A MAN... OUT OF YOU!!!

@  BlackMax : (21 March 2017 - 06:50 PM)

Much love to NightViper for that.

@  Paladin : (21 March 2017 - 06:49 PM)

can't; they cut that from the new movie.

@  Evac : (21 March 2017 - 06:48 PM)

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS! TO DEFEAT *smashes some pots* THE HUNS!

@  NightViper : (21 March 2017 - 01:54 PM)

If they had a sword they would not get bored. They would not get bored, that horrible Horde. They would find a lord - a lord and his ward - and use their sword to slice the lord. Yes slice the lord just like a gourd! Then the ward they turn themselves toward that horrible Horde. That horrible terrible deplorable Mongol Horde. And they would not be bored if they had a sword.

@  Telly : (21 March 2017 - 01:23 PM)

3

@  Paladin : (21 March 2017 - 01:07 PM)

how many boars would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol Horde got bored?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 March 2017 - 11:28 AM)

Well, you won't find it if you don't look! (Neither TMM nor The Allspark are in any way responsible for what you find.)

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 March 2017 - 02:47 AM)

I haven't seen grilled cheese and Super Ted cross over yet on the internet. Nor do I intend to search!

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 March 2017 - 01:56 AM)

This is the internet. Everything crosses over with everything if you look long enough. And if you're lucky, some of it isn't even porn!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 March 2017 - 01:40 AM)

I read that as San Adross and was wondering when there was a GTA and Star Fox Crossover... x.x;

@  Verity Carlo : (20 March 2017 - 09:02 PM)

gta san andreas bass boosted

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 06:56 PM)

starting monstrosity now... the arts making my eyes hurt and im hungry. ill start it later

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 06:55 PM)

trying to decide if autocracy was an attempt at an original story or just an excuse to quote the '86 movie for the gajillionth time. time to move on fom it (even if you did have a hand in writing it)!

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

certainly not! reminds me too much of those tests they made me take when i was a kid. the trauma. the trauma...

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 04:07 PM)

What, you don't like inkblots?

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 03:46 PM)

plus the -acies have my all time favorite artist on it (thats to be read with the most sarcastic tone possible btw)

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 03:40 PM)

You're not missing anything. Either in the "quality of the stories themselves" way OR in the "adds to the greater universe" way.

@  Dracula : (20 March 2017 - 03:30 PM)

I still haven't read the -acies despite owning most of them in print...

@  Dracula : (20 March 2017 - 03:29 PM)

I like Origins, I feel like the later stories add to it and make it better than what it was when written.

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

@jalaguy-well if i get bored with the stories i can always skip them lol

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

Origins felt like it was Megatron telling his own story and leaving out the parts he didn't like.


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#21 Fear or Courage

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:21 AM

They're worth watching once, especially since each set is like, less than 20 dollars. Each one is a trip in its own way, a combination of actual coolness and "what the hell is going on" randomness. I'd definitely call them better than Energon, and probably the Unicron Trilogy as a whole, just due to the manic energy of them all, compared to the UT's stiff sterility.

 

Honestly, the low quality and dodgy, inconsistent subtitles didn't really bug me, because I figured, at that price for 40-ish episodes a set, you get what you pay for.

 

A word of warning, though, there's some content missing here and there. The only major thing is a clipshow from Masterforce that happens after the series, that served the purpose of explaining some unresolved backstory threads.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:23 AM

I take issue with the asserton that Headmasters has any "manic energy". Or indeed any energy at all, from what I've managed to force myself through.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:41 AM

The HM subs remain ropey across all versions, but it's only Shout's awkward modifications that are a problem for MF and V; the core subs for those were a good job.

 

(I mean, y'know, if I do say so myself.)



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:44 AM

I take issue with the asserton that Headmasters has any "manic energy". Or indeed any energy at all, from what I've managed to force myself through.

 

Actual lines:

 

"It's all thanks to that donkey"

"Absolutely. The donkey showed incredible bravery taking on that Decepticon to save the boy."

"Remarkable, these people of Earth, their animals, and the environment!"

 

That kinda weird stuff. Admittedly it's been a couple of years, so maybe I'm combining the shows in my head.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:48 AM

There are a bunch of parts of Headmasters that sound wacky and awesome when you write about them that are a big string of Zs when you actually watch them, though.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:54 AM

 

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

To be clear, they're only bad in that quite a lot of characters' names are changed in sorta arbitrary ways.

Not just names, but several lines of dialogue were just rewritten for the sake of it, making them say things that completely differed from what was being spoken onscreen. For instance, the title of Episode 1, "Four Warriors Come out of the Sky", was instead changed in the subs to be just "Warriors from Space". And in a later instance, there's an episode where Cyclonus and Scourge grumble about having to take orders from Scorponok during Galvatron's absence, and while the dialogue has Soundblaster basically tell the two to just buck up and deal with it, the subs instead have him claim that Galvatron ordered Soundblaster to tell the two to follow Scorponok, which is not only wrong but makes Soundblaster sound like he made up fake orders from Galvatron to suit his own purposes, which goes against his character since that's something he'd never do.

 

Plus, a lot of terminology from Western TF media that never existed back in the 1980s (predominately terms from the then-new Aligned media and the IDW comics) were inserted into the subtitle scripts as well. Namely, practically every instance of a character expressing frustration through exclamations and expletives was subbed as "scrap", references to the Allspark were added, Chōkon Power became "Energon Power", Sixshot's rank as the Destron Dinobase Ninja Staff Officer was subbed as "Phase Six Decepticon officer", all of the cassettes were called "Deployers" (this was back when the Exodus novel described Soundwave's minions as Deployers, rather than the current RID toyline using that term to refer to the bigger partner who uses said minions), and the Breastforce was given the infamously completely-made-up renaming of "Chestforce".


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 11:01 AM

From what I recall, the subtitle scripts weren't edited by Shout! Factory, but by Hasbro themselves (specifically, the Aaron Archer era version of Hasbro), so I lay the blame upon Hasbro rather than Shout! for the arbitrary changes made to the subs.

 

A word of warning, though, there's some content missing here and there.

For The Headmasters, it was mainly the pre-episode recaps and the post-episode/pre-end credits next-episode previews. But, for episodes 1 and 25, there was additional episode material that played before the title card where the recaps would normally go, and because these scenes played before the title card, they were missing from those two episodes as well.

 

However, this is consistent across the UK, Australian, and U.S. DVDs of The Headmasters, since Toei gave incomplete masters to all three companies.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 11:04 AM

The Headmasters is honestly like they were trying to mimick the 'feel' of the American series but just failed miserably.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 11:25 AM

Deployers is one that irks me.  Because it comes off as specifically Aligned bible like, and I don't like it.




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Posted 08 February 2017 - 11:26 AM

The Wiki's page for The Headmasters includes this little claim about some of the early episodes of the series:

 

According to the booklet included with the Pioneer DVD release of the series, the earliest episodes of the series were based on aborted scripts written for the unmade fourth season of the American cartoon


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 11:29 AM

 

doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA SERIOUSLY?? I think the worst the Metrodome subs got in that territory was when the Decepticons plotted to "mindwipe them all out!"

 

 

Yeah, I think it's specifically when Cancer hurts Minerva or something, and she is bleeding.  Shuta exclaims Bomburst rather than the blood coming out of Minerva.




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Posted 08 February 2017 - 12:05 PM

... and the Breastforce was given the infamously completely-made-up renaming of "Chestforce".


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

 

Sixshot's rank as the Destron Dinobase Ninja Staff Officer was subbed as "Phase Six Decepticon officer",

 

 

I should know this already, but is this the same rank that the dubs consistently translate as "Ninja Consultant"?



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 12:36 PM

 

 

Sixshot's rank as the Destron Dinobase Ninja Staff Officer was subbed as "Phase Six Decepticon officer",

 

 

I should know this already, but is this the same rank that the dubs consistently translate as "Ninja Consultant"?

 

Yes.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 12:54 PM

 

 

doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA SERIOUSLY?? I think the worst the Metrodome subs got in that territory was when the Decepticons plotted to "mindwipe them all out!"

 

 

Yeah, I think it's specifically when Cancer hurts Minerva or something, and she is bleeding.  Shuta exclaims Bomburst rather than the blood coming out of Minerva.

 

 

Yep, that's it, I loved that part.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 02:25 PM

This reminds me of the liner notes to that "Coming Out Of Their Shells" live TMNT band show thing, in which any word with "-don-" in it ended up replaced by "Donatello", such as:

 

"Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's undone" being rendered as "Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's unDonatello"

 

"The word 'gourmet' just don't exist" being rendered as "the word 'gourmet' just Donatello's exist"

 

i think i need this explained to me more. WHY would this be done? whats wrong with "don"?


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 02:27 PM

I have no idea. I also would have thought it predated widespread find-and-replace word processing.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 03:03 PM

I assume someone just balked at not using the trademarked term.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 03:13 PM

 

 

Must....suppress...raucous....laughter...

 

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

To be clear, they're only bad in that quite a lot of characters' names are changed in sorta arbitrary ways. It never bothered me because I can hear the names being said and I already know what they're supposed to be. If you're the kinda person who gets irked by characters saying "Rodimus Convoy" but the subs say "Rodimus Prime," and so on, then it will be bothersome to you. Otherwise it's fine

 

 

I think I'll manage. Pretty sure I've dealt in other stuff like that.

 

They're worth watching once, especially since each set is like, less than 20 dollars. Each one is a trip in its own way, a combination of actual coolness and "what the hell is going on" randomness. I'd definitely call them better than Energon, and probably the Unicron Trilogy as a whole, just due to the manic energy of them all, compared to the UT's stiff sterility.

 

Honestly, the low quality and dodgy, inconsistent subtitles didn't really bug me, because I figured, at that price for 40-ish episodes a set, you get what you pay for.

 

A word of warning, though, there's some content missing here and there. The only major thing is a clipshow from Masterforce that happens after the series, that served the purpose of explaining some unresolved backstory threads.

 

$30 a pop on Amazon.ca, unfortunately. Might just buy them off Amazon.com instead of .ca, since they're like $16 each there.

 

As for that missing part, at least I've got the wiki for that. I don't mind reading up some supplemental, but for an entire series, I'd rather watch as much as I can.

 

 

 

 

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

To be clear, they're only bad in that quite a lot of characters' names are changed in sorta arbitrary ways.

Not just names, but several lines of dialogue were just rewritten for the sake of it, making them say things that completely differed from what was being spoken onscreen. For instance, the title of Episode 1, "Four Warriors Come out of the Sky", was instead changed in the subs to be just "Warriors from Space". And in a later instance, there's an episode where Cyclonus and Scourge grumble about having to take orders from Scorponok during Galvatron's absence, and while the dialogue has Soundblaster basically tell the two to just buck up and deal with it, the subs instead have him claim that Galvatron ordered Soundblaster to tell the two to follow Scorponok, which is not only wrong but makes Soundblaster sound like he made up fake orders from Galvatron to suit his own purposes, which goes against his character since that's something he'd never do.

 

Plus, a lot of terminology from Western TF media that never existed back in the 1980s (predominately terms from the then-new Aligned media and the IDW comics) were inserted into the subtitle scripts as well. Namely, practically every instance of a character expressing frustration through exclamations and expletives was subbed as "scrap", references to the Allspark were added, Chōkon Power became "Energon Power", Sixshot's rank as the Destron Dinobase Ninja Staff Officer was subbed as "Phase Six Decepticon officer", all of the cassettes were called "Deployers" (this was back when the Exodus novel described Soundwave's minions as Deployers, rather than the current RID toyline using that term to refer to the bigger partner who uses said minions), and the Breastforce was given the infamously completely-made-up renaming of "Chestforce".

 

 

So, like pretty much every anime I've ever seen dubbed, then, only it's subbed instead.

 

Sucks on the story thing, but I don't mind the terminology so much. Even though I know "Cybertrons," "Destrons," and even "Ninja Staff Officer," it's probably easier to keep track of in the longer run for terms and names unfamiliar to me.

 

The Headmasters is honestly like they were trying to mimick the 'feel' of the American series but just failed miserably.

 

From the bits I've seen, that's one of the most appealing parts to me.

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:30 PM

I don't think I got past episode four of Victory, and I'm not sure if it's due to quality or because it didn't feature characters I was familiar with. About 95% of characters in Headmasters and Masterforce existed in America or were repainted/remolded from someone that existed in America.





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