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@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 10:30 AM)

Huh. That's dissapointing. I had completely missed the Alternators and had just always assumed they were good based on how they looked in photos.

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2018 - 03:34 AM)

I liked the Alternator Tracks mold. I think everyone agrees the Grimjack mold was just kinda shit even if you didn't care about it being Grimlock as a car.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:16 PM)

My local dept. store Shopko always seemed to get a few late run gems, like Blast Attack Optimus Primal and hard to find collection 2 Revenge of the Sith toys.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:15 PM)

Still wish I had snagged that extra Swerve I saw on clearance at Shopko, though

@  RichardT1977 : (15 January 2018 - 08:50 PM)

Smokescreen was the only Alternator I ever got.

@  Telly : (15 January 2018 - 07:24 PM)

i sold all my alternators last year

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 January 2018 - 05:27 PM)

Hound isn't bad, and, uh........

@  Paladin : (15 January 2018 - 05:23 PM)

there's only like 3 Alternator molds at most that still hold up...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 January 2018 - 01:09 PM)

There were no shelfwarmer Altenators where I lived.. Cause no one ever got them in. x.x;

@  Bass X0 : (15 January 2018 - 12:57 PM)

I have Alternators Nemesis Prime since he was a shelf warmer here.

@  unluckiness : (15 January 2018 - 10:07 AM)

You wouldn't want to anyway

@  Chromedome113 : (15 January 2018 - 07:21 AM)

My first Prime was Alternators Optimus, I still can't transform him

@  Shrug : (14 January 2018 - 06:42 PM)

Ah. I'll try to remember that, but I keep forgetting "Gobots" the Autobot even existed.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"Gobots" is the G2 Autobot Color Changer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:01 PM)

@Shrug That would be "Go-Bots".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 January 2018 - 03:16 AM)

At least you still had a big beefy super robot with giant guns.

@  JasperGunner... : (14 January 2018 - 01:47 AM)

My first Prime was Cybertron Prime. I was too stupid to know how to transform him lol

@  Shrug : (13 January 2018 - 11:15 PM)

My first Prime was Transmetal Primal. Second was RID Prime. My first Megatron was actually Gobots Megatron. I just didn't know he was Megatron for like 15 years. I often used him as "Roller" for RID Prime and I assume he's never really forgiven me.

@  Telly : (13 January 2018 - 10:39 PM)

my first prime was g1 prime actually in 1984. saw him at a store and begged my grandparents to give me my christmas money early lol

@  unitremover : (13 January 2018 - 10:33 PM)

Mine was Beast Machines deluxe Primal but I don't think I knew he what he was at the time.

@  Dekafox : (13 January 2018 - 09:32 PM)

My first Prime was actually LioConvoy... followed by Fire Convoy

@  Shrug : (13 January 2018 - 11:57 AM)

@Telly, but G1 Rodimus's vehicle mode is so durn sexy

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:30 AM)

PMOP was my second, and my first Optimus.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 January 2018 - 04:29 AM)

My first Prime was Power Master Prime.. And though Titans Return had Power Master Prime.. Power of the Primes feels more like Power Master Prime to me.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:17 AM)

Still wanted Hot Rod too, though.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:17 AM)

I had Rodimus Prime as a kid, he was the first Prime I owned, and I loved 'im.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 January 2018 - 12:27 AM)

At least he doesn't feel like he's about to fall apart in my hands like Masterpiece did.

@  Otaku : (12 January 2018 - 11:50 PM)

As a kid, I remember being confused that Rodimus Prime and Hot Rod had separate action figures. I thought there should be one that you could change between the "two".

@  Telly : (12 January 2018 - 10:59 PM)

'86 rodimus prime was a joke, even by '86 standards. it BARELY qualified as a transformer and his face was terrible

@  Bass X0 : (12 January 2018 - 05:05 PM)

He's leaps and bounds above the original 1986 Rodimus Prime, it's unbelievable. That's more of a criticism to 1986 Rodimus Prime's simplicity though.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 03:14 PM)

Rodimus is insainly complicated at first though.

@  Bass X0 : (12 January 2018 - 03:07 PM)

I like to imagine that Orion Pax has his own Cybertronian vehicle mode even though the toy doesn't have it. It would be Orion Pax evolving into Optimus Prime, but Optimus Prime cannot turn back into Orion Pax (even though the toy obviously can).

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 03:05 PM)

Orion Pax? Only into Prime's truck mode.

@  Locoman : (12 January 2018 - 02:22 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Dekafox : (12 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

You mean: *var mode

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 January 2018 - 01:50 PM)

*Sorry to be that guy, but *vehicle.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 01:11 PM)

I love the leaders.. Just complicated! I am semi disapointed that they didn't somehow get Orions vehical mode in there though.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:48 AM)

Possibly. Cause I didn't know how to transform his legs and was pulling the poor guy every whichaway

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2018 - 11:44 AM)

Maybe paladin just got the last one built on friday?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:42 AM)

Dunno about that... He seems pretty damn stable with as much as I was pulling and twisting.

@  Paladin : (12 January 2018 - 11:35 AM)

apparently he breaks easily. my interest has all but worn off.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:17 AM)

Rodimus is more complicated than I thought.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 10:57 AM)

I know I said PotP was Power Masters... But Prime -really- is very much desinged like the original PM Prime

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2018 - 10:46 AM)

And BBTS finally shipped mine! Will be another two weeks till they get here, but still! At least some good news today.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 10:31 AM)

Whoot! Toys have arrived!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 10:02 AM)

And anytime it didn't cater to them specificly it sucked? ;)

@  lastmaximal : (12 January 2018 - 08:36 AM)

Universal translation: Any time a fanboy praises a company or design team or EIC or showrunner because "they listen to the fans", he means "they listen to ME."

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 07:56 AM)

Well my Optimus and Rodimus are supposed to be here today.

@  unluckiness : (12 January 2018 - 07:08 AM)

Probably Rodimus since the way he's packaged really, really doesn't help how his kibble is displayed

@  unluckiness : (12 January 2018 - 07:08 AM)

In all likelihood, it'll probably be Optimus or Rodimus


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#1 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:44 PM

So I know that these have been around for a little while now. I had been hoping that I'd be able to get the complete set with Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory along with that cool Fortress Maximus litho ('cuz I loves me some Fort Max, don'cha know).

 

Yeah, I think it's realistic to say that ain't happening now.

 

That said, there's still a complete set sans litho, and there are the individual sets. Out of curiosity, aside from maybe the case to contain all three series, is there any difference between the contents of the individual series and the collection? Because I don't want to miss anything, and if not, I might just look at getting them piecemeal one series at a time instead of trying to save up for the whole kit 'n kaboodle.

 

(And before anyone brings it up, I know the reputation of the series. I got through Energon, so I think I'll survive, and I'm just interested in seeing it all play out anyway.)

 

All that said, any indication they might bring over Beast Wars II and Neo?

 

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:13 PM

That said, there's still a complete set sans litho, and there are the individual sets. Out of curiosity, aside from maybe the case to contain all three series, is there any difference between the contents of the individual series and the collection? Because I don't want to miss anything, and if not, I might just look at getting them piecemeal one series at a time instead of trying to save up for the whole kit 'n kaboodle.

 

(And before anyone brings it up, I know the reputation of the series. I got through Energon, so I think I'll survive, and I'm just interested in seeing it all play out anyway.)

 

All that said, any indication they might bring over Beast Wars II and Neo?

As far as I know, the complete set is just the three individual sets bundled together, with no content differences between the individual sets and the complete set.

 

As for BWII and Neo, not likely. It would seem that the main reason the Shout! Factory releases of The Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory were able to be done was because the Metrodome and Madman releases in the UK and Australia had already been done beforehand, with there having been a preexisting set of official subtitle scripts for all three series that Hasbro and Shout! could use and butcher tweak for their U.S. release.

 

BWII and Neo, however, had never been completely subbed in English beforehand (what with neither series having come to DVD in Japan at all until 2011 and 2012), with BWII's first complete fansubbed release having not come about until just last year, and that was an unofficial release.

 

For there to be an official English subtitled DVD release of BWII and Neo, Hasbro and/or Shout! Factory would have to create their own new subtitle scripts from scratch. And there's also the notion that the current Hasbro team seems to be ignoring the Beast Era as of late, so the interest in subbing and releasing these two series doesn't seem very high.


Edited by Sabrblade, 08 February 2017 - 11:30 AM.

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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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#3 Shrug

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Also, the most recent subtitled Super Sentai release by Shout supposedly copied a fansub available on the internet after the one before it got some pretty negative feedback for inconsistent quality.

I don't think Shout is really interested in spending money on fresh translations.

#4 Chris McFeely

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:27 PM

That's a laugh, 'cause it's exactly what happened with the Metrodome DVDs. Headmasters was a bit ropey, so they employed the TV Nihon subs for MF and V. All above board in their case, though!


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:35 PM

Yeah it looks to me like each individual series is going for less than 20 bucks on Amazon. I'd just get 'em peacemeal. 

 

If you love some Fort Max you oughtta love some Headmasters. I think it's an awesome series and I won't hear anything otherwise!


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:47 PM

Headmasters is pretty great, honestly.

Nothing else in the entire franchise comes close to this level of brilliance. And no, I am not taking a potshot at the series. The dub is a genuine masterpiece of hilarity.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

Headmasters is pretty great, honestly.

 

Alas, that dub isn't on the Shout! Factory DVD set.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:00 PM

They didn't want anyone to accidentally enjoy it.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:15 PM

i only watched it once, back when it was released. i dont remember hating it. may have to watch it again sometime. hate watching subtitled anime though


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:25 PM

hate watching subtitled anime though

 

Word of advice to help making that easier to do: Watch on a smaller screen. That lets you see everything easier. :thumbsup


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:40 PM

Or just sit slightly further from the TV.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:45 PM

I have the individual sets of HM, MF and V. I've watched them each once. Well worth the watch of you don't mind following a long with subtitles. But I noticed a lot of them you can simply watch them and figure out what's happening without really needing much of the subtitles to help.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:14 AM

I like the series well enough.  Masterforce is the best, then Victory then Headmasters.

 

I find the 4 Headmaster characters not as interesting as some of the other leads (or even characters on the show).  But I'm currently watching this one.

 

One thing that annoys me is some of the changes to the names that don't generally make sense.  Or some errors in the subtitles, whether it be grammatical, misinterpretting two people talking as one person talking, or doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.




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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:24 AM

doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA SERIOUSLY?? I think the worst the Metrodome subs got in that territory was when the Decepticons plotted to "mindwipe them all out!"


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

I'm a big fan of Masterforce.  I really dig how they handled Powermasters.  It helps that it has some of my favorite late G1 designs as characters that only got Western fiction in the comic book (which is coincidentally the era of the comics that I love.)

 

I've really been meaning to watch through Headmasters.  I think the sudden switch to animeness with some of the Season 3 crew is what throws me.  Maybe I just need to skip like the first 3 episodes.

 

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When Shout translated Dairanger, they translated nearly all instances of onii-chan based on the context of the scene.  They were inconsistent episode-to-episode and scene-to-scene with the series after that though, leaning heavily on not switching it to brother/sister or a name.  In at least one episode they started switching spoken names to onii-chan.

 

Doesn't top finding and replacing "blood" though.  That's amazing.  

I love Shout for releasing stuff no other company has interest in releasing, but man, I wish they'd put a like a minimum 20% more effort into stuff.  If not spending time/money proofreading subtitles is what makes it profitable, then keep on keeping on I guess.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:40 AM

This reminds me of the liner notes to that "Coming Out Of Their Shells" live TMNT band show thing, in which any word with "-don-" in it ended up replaced by "Donatello", such as:

 

"Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's undone" being rendered as "Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's unDonatello"

 

"The word 'gourmet' just don't exist" being rendered as "the word 'gourmet' just Donatello's exist"



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:53 AM

Ass ass ass, ass'ass ass! Ass? Ass + ass.

#19 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:07 AM

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:19 AM

 

Must....suppress...raucous....laughter...

 

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

To be clear, they're only bad in that quite a lot of characters' names are changed in sorta arbitrary ways. It never bothered me because I can hear the names being said and I already know what they're supposed to be. If you're the kinda person who gets irked by characters saying "Rodimus Convoy" but the subs say "Rodimus Prime," and so on, then it will be bothersome to you. Otherwise it's fine


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