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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

Snackajawea - REAL Native American food prepackaged for your snacking pleasure!

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#1 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:44 PM

So I know that these have been around for a little while now. I had been hoping that I'd be able to get the complete set with Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory along with that cool Fortress Maximus litho ('cuz I loves me some Fort Max, don'cha know).

 

Yeah, I think it's realistic to say that ain't happening now.

 

That said, there's still a complete set sans litho, and there are the individual sets. Out of curiosity, aside from maybe the case to contain all three series, is there any difference between the contents of the individual series and the collection? Because I don't want to miss anything, and if not, I might just look at getting them piecemeal one series at a time instead of trying to save up for the whole kit 'n kaboodle.

 

(And before anyone brings it up, I know the reputation of the series. I got through Energon, so I think I'll survive, and I'm just interested in seeing it all play out anyway.)

 

All that said, any indication they might bring over Beast Wars II and Neo?

 

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:13 PM

That said, there's still a complete set sans litho, and there are the individual sets. Out of curiosity, aside from maybe the case to contain all three series, is there any difference between the contents of the individual series and the collection? Because I don't want to miss anything, and if not, I might just look at getting them piecemeal one series at a time instead of trying to save up for the whole kit 'n kaboodle.

 

(And before anyone brings it up, I know the reputation of the series. I got through Energon, so I think I'll survive, and I'm just interested in seeing it all play out anyway.)

 

All that said, any indication they might bring over Beast Wars II and Neo?

As far as I know, the complete set is just the three individual sets bundled together, with no content differences between the individual sets and the complete set.

 

As for BWII and Neo, not likely. It would seem that the main reason the Shout! Factory releases of The Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory were able to be done was because the Metrodome and Madman releases in the UK and Australia had already been done beforehand, with there having been a preexisting set of official subtitle scripts for all three series that Hasbro and Shout! could use and butcher tweak for their U.S. release.

 

BWII and Neo, however, had never been completely subbed in English beforehand (what with neither series having come to DVD in Japan at all until 2011 and 2012), with BWII's first complete fansubbed release having not come about until just last year, and that was an unofficial release.

 

For there to be an official English subtitled DVD release of BWII and Neo, Hasbro and/or Shout! Factory would have to create their own new subtitle scripts from scratch. And there's also the notion that the current Hasbro team seems to be ignoring the Beast Era as of late, so the interest in subbing and releasing these two series doesn't seem very high.


Edited by Sabrblade, 08 February 2017 - 11:30 AM.

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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Also, the most recent subtitled Super Sentai release by Shout supposedly copied a fansub available on the internet after the one before it got some pretty negative feedback for inconsistent quality.

I don't think Shout is really interested in spending money on fresh translations.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:27 PM

That's a laugh, 'cause it's exactly what happened with the Metrodome DVDs. Headmasters was a bit ropey, so they employed the TV Nihon subs for MF and V. All above board in their case, though!


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:35 PM

Yeah it looks to me like each individual series is going for less than 20 bucks on Amazon. I'd just get 'em peacemeal. 

 

If you love some Fort Max you oughtta love some Headmasters. I think it's an awesome series and I won't hear anything otherwise!


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:47 PM

Headmasters is pretty great, honestly.

Nothing else in the entire franchise comes close to this level of brilliance. And no, I am not taking a potshot at the series. The dub is a genuine masterpiece of hilarity.


Edited by ShadowMan024, 07 February 2017 - 09:48 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

Headmasters is pretty great, honestly.

 

Alas, that dub isn't on the Shout! Factory DVD set.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:00 PM

They didn't want anyone to accidentally enjoy it.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:15 PM

i only watched it once, back when it was released. i dont remember hating it. may have to watch it again sometime. hate watching subtitled anime though


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:25 PM

hate watching subtitled anime though

 

Word of advice to help making that easier to do: Watch on a smaller screen. That lets you see everything easier. :thumbsup


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:40 PM

Or just sit slightly further from the TV.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:45 PM

I have the individual sets of HM, MF and V. I've watched them each once. Well worth the watch of you don't mind following a long with subtitles. But I noticed a lot of them you can simply watch them and figure out what's happening without really needing much of the subtitles to help.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:14 AM

I like the series well enough.  Masterforce is the best, then Victory then Headmasters.

 

I find the 4 Headmaster characters not as interesting as some of the other leads (or even characters on the show).  But I'm currently watching this one.

 

One thing that annoys me is some of the changes to the names that don't generally make sense.  Or some errors in the subtitles, whether it be grammatical, misinterpretting two people talking as one person talking, or doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.




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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:24 AM

doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA SERIOUSLY?? I think the worst the Metrodome subs got in that territory was when the Decepticons plotted to "mindwipe them all out!"


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

I'm a big fan of Masterforce.  I really dig how they handled Powermasters.  It helps that it has some of my favorite late G1 designs as characters that only got Western fiction in the comic book (which is coincidentally the era of the comics that I love.)

 

I've really been meaning to watch through Headmasters.  I think the sudden switch to animeness with some of the Season 3 crew is what throws me.  Maybe I just need to skip like the first 3 episodes.

 

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When Shout translated Dairanger, they translated nearly all instances of onii-chan based on the context of the scene.  They were inconsistent episode-to-episode and scene-to-scene with the series after that though, leaning heavily on not switching it to brother/sister or a name.  In at least one episode they started switching spoken names to onii-chan.

 

Doesn't top finding and replacing "blood" though.  That's amazing.  

I love Shout for releasing stuff no other company has interest in releasing, but man, I wish they'd put a like a minimum 20% more effort into stuff.  If not spending time/money proofreading subtitles is what makes it profitable, then keep on keeping on I guess.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:40 AM

This reminds me of the liner notes to that "Coming Out Of Their Shells" live TMNT band show thing, in which any word with "-don-" in it ended up replaced by "Donatello", such as:

 

"Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's undone" being rendered as "Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's unDonatello"

 

"The word 'gourmet' just don't exist" being rendered as "the word 'gourmet' just Donatello's exist"



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:53 AM

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#19 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:07 AM

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:19 AM

 

Must....suppress...raucous....laughter...

 

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

To be clear, they're only bad in that quite a lot of characters' names are changed in sorta arbitrary ways. It never bothered me because I can hear the names being said and I already know what they're supposed to be. If you're the kinda person who gets irked by characters saying "Rodimus Convoy" but the subs say "Rodimus Prime," and so on, then it will be bothersome to you. Otherwise it's fine


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