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@  RichardT1977 : (28 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

@BlackMax Thank you, Dimitri Martin.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 07:55 PM)

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'... Into the future~♪

@  BlackMax : (28 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

God spelled backwards is dog. Cat spelled backwards is tac. Pterodactyl spelled backwards is really hard to pronounce.

@  Waspinator : (28 April 2017 - 06:46 PM)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 06:12 PM)

you too, eh?

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 05:40 PM)

Well, I don't know about you, but personally I clawed my way free from the corpse of a goat during the autumn equinox.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 05:37 PM)

Yep. Also diseases are painful. And trucks are weird!

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 04:41 PM)

we're all someone's daughters... we're all someone's sons...

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Your creative writing professor is a god, then.

@  Diecast : (28 April 2017 - 03:17 PM)

My creative writing professor read that to my class once, all those years ago.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Sorry, whenever anyone brings up anything related to badfic, I immediately think of Repercussions of Evil.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM)

"No! I must kill the trolls" he shouted. The radio said "No, John. You are the trolls" And then John was a shitposter.

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 02:25 PM)

you lived like a spammer ans died to an moderator

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

He lived a spammer, and died a moderator.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (28 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill posts along with the good and let me be judged accordingly."

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Fool! Snark is my friend! Allow me to introduce you to it!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.


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#1 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:44 PM

So I know that these have been around for a little while now. I had been hoping that I'd be able to get the complete set with Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory along with that cool Fortress Maximus litho ('cuz I loves me some Fort Max, don'cha know).

 

Yeah, I think it's realistic to say that ain't happening now.

 

That said, there's still a complete set sans litho, and there are the individual sets. Out of curiosity, aside from maybe the case to contain all three series, is there any difference between the contents of the individual series and the collection? Because I don't want to miss anything, and if not, I might just look at getting them piecemeal one series at a time instead of trying to save up for the whole kit 'n kaboodle.

 

(And before anyone brings it up, I know the reputation of the series. I got through Energon, so I think I'll survive, and I'm just interested in seeing it all play out anyway.)

 

All that said, any indication they might bring over Beast Wars II and Neo?

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:13 PM

That said, there's still a complete set sans litho, and there are the individual sets. Out of curiosity, aside from maybe the case to contain all three series, is there any difference between the contents of the individual series and the collection? Because I don't want to miss anything, and if not, I might just look at getting them piecemeal one series at a time instead of trying to save up for the whole kit 'n kaboodle.

 

(And before anyone brings it up, I know the reputation of the series. I got through Energon, so I think I'll survive, and I'm just interested in seeing it all play out anyway.)

 

All that said, any indication they might bring over Beast Wars II and Neo?

As far as I know, the complete set is just the three individual sets bundled together, with no content differences between the individual sets and the complete set.

 

As for BWII and Neo, not likely. It would seem that the main reason the Shout! Factory releases of The Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory were able to be done was because the Metrodome and Madman releases in the UK and Australia had already been done beforehand, with there having been a preexisting set of official subtitle scripts for all three series that Hasbro and Shout! could use and butcher tweak for their U.S. release.

 

BWII and Neo, however, had never been completely subbed in English beforehand (what with neither series having come to DVD in Japan at all until 2011 and 2012), with BWII's first complete fansubbed release having not come about until just last year, and that was an unofficial release.

 

For there to be an official English subtitled DVD release of BWII and Neo, Hasbro and/or Shout! Factory would have to create their own new subtitle scripts from scratch. And there's also the notion that the current Hasbro team seems to be ignoring the Beast Era as of late, so the interest in subbing and releasing these two series doesn't seem very high.


Edited by Sabrblade, 08 February 2017 - 11:30 AM.

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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Also, the most recent subtitled Super Sentai release by Shout supposedly copied a fansub available on the internet after the one before it got some pretty negative feedback for inconsistent quality.

I don't think Shout is really interested in spending money on fresh translations.

#4 Chris McFeely

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:27 PM

That's a laugh, 'cause it's exactly what happened with the Metrodome DVDs. Headmasters was a bit ropey, so they employed the TV Nihon subs for MF and V. All above board in their case, though!


Edited by Chris McFeely, 07 February 2017 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:35 PM

Yeah it looks to me like each individual series is going for less than 20 bucks on Amazon. I'd just get 'em peacemeal. 

 

If you love some Fort Max you oughtta love some Headmasters. I think it's an awesome series and I won't hear anything otherwise!


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:47 PM

Headmasters is pretty great, honestly.

Nothing else in the entire franchise comes close to this level of brilliance. And no, I am not taking a potshot at the series. The dub is a genuine masterpiece of hilarity.


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Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

Headmasters is pretty great, honestly.

 

Alas, that dub isn't on the Shout! Factory DVD set.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:00 PM

They didn't want anyone to accidentally enjoy it.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:15 PM

i only watched it once, back when it was released. i dont remember hating it. may have to watch it again sometime. hate watching subtitled anime though


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:25 PM

hate watching subtitled anime though

 

Word of advice to help making that easier to do: Watch on a smaller screen. That lets you see everything easier. :thumbsup


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:40 PM

Or just sit slightly further from the TV.

Edited by NotVeryKnightly, 07 February 2017 - 11:41 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:45 PM

I have the individual sets of HM, MF and V. I've watched them each once. Well worth the watch of you don't mind following a long with subtitles. But I noticed a lot of them you can simply watch them and figure out what's happening without really needing much of the subtitles to help.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:14 AM

I like the series well enough.  Masterforce is the best, then Victory then Headmasters.

 

I find the 4 Headmaster characters not as interesting as some of the other leads (or even characters on the show).  But I'm currently watching this one.

 

One thing that annoys me is some of the changes to the names that don't generally make sense.  Or some errors in the subtitles, whether it be grammatical, misinterpretting two people talking as one person talking, or doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.




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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:24 AM

doing a find and replace of all the times "blood" is mentioned and having "Bomburst" actually replace a reference to a human's blood.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA SERIOUSLY?? I think the worst the Metrodome subs got in that territory was when the Decepticons plotted to "mindwipe them all out!"


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

I'm a big fan of Masterforce.  I really dig how they handled Powermasters.  It helps that it has some of my favorite late G1 designs as characters that only got Western fiction in the comic book (which is coincidentally the era of the comics that I love.)

 

I've really been meaning to watch through Headmasters.  I think the sudden switch to animeness with some of the Season 3 crew is what throws me.  Maybe I just need to skip like the first 3 episodes.

 

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When Shout translated Dairanger, they translated nearly all instances of onii-chan based on the context of the scene.  They were inconsistent episode-to-episode and scene-to-scene with the series after that though, leaning heavily on not switching it to brother/sister or a name.  In at least one episode they started switching spoken names to onii-chan.

 

Doesn't top finding and replacing "blood" though.  That's amazing.  

I love Shout for releasing stuff no other company has interest in releasing, but man, I wish they'd put a like a minimum 20% more effort into stuff.  If not spending time/money proofreading subtitles is what makes it profitable, then keep on keeping on I guess.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:40 AM

This reminds me of the liner notes to that "Coming Out Of Their Shells" live TMNT band show thing, in which any word with "-don-" in it ended up replaced by "Donatello", such as:

 

"Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's undone" being rendered as "Ain't gonna stop until the Foot's unDonatello"

 

"The word 'gourmet' just don't exist" being rendered as "the word 'gourmet' just Donatello's exist"



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 09:53 AM

Ass ass ass, ass'ass ass! Ass? Ass + ass.

#19 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:07 AM

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:19 AM

 

Must....suppress...raucous....laughter...

 

So the subs on these aren't very good, eh? I'll definitely look for a bargain in trying to get them bit by bit, then.

 

Thanks for the help, all!

 

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

To be clear, they're only bad in that quite a lot of characters' names are changed in sorta arbitrary ways. It never bothered me because I can hear the names being said and I already know what they're supposed to be. If you're the kinda person who gets irked by characters saying "Rodimus Convoy" but the subs say "Rodimus Prime," and so on, then it will be bothersome to you. Otherwise it's fine


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