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@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Another great 90's animated film is, of course, The Iron Giant.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Another thing I liked about The Prince of Egypt was that it explained (without even having to say it outright) why Moses was chosen to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. Someone who had been raised among the slaves would have had too much bitterness and would want to go in throwing the wrath of God on all the Egyptians (or at least the royal family) until they all burned alive. But Moses had been raised as a member of the royal family, so he still thought of them as family. He wanted to reach a peaceful solution if at all possible.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:04 PM)

"I know! I'll turn him into a flea. A harmless little flea, and then I'll put that flea in a box, and then put that box inside of another box, and when it arrives - AHAHAHA! I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH! It's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT, I tell you! Genius, I say!"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:03 PM)

Hell, The Emperor's New Groove is easily the funniest animated film ever. Disney managed to do what Dreamworks tried to do, and they did it right.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

None of their "funny" movies are anywhere near as funny as Aladdin or The Emperor's New Groove.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Its a pity Dreamworks devolved into a company that churned out "funny" films filled with pop culture references.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:00 PM)

(also at the end of that scene, the camera pans up from the Egyptian skyline to the night sky and the most prominent constellation is Orion. Which the Egyptians associated with Osiris)

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

Yeah I give them full credit for treating the Last Plague with all the solemness it deserves.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

It freed the Israelites, but Moses sure hated seeing what it did to his brother and all the normal non-slave owning people who didn't do anything wrong to the Israelites.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:58 PM)

And it actually portrays God murdering children as a tragic thing, something most other adaptations disturbingly don't do.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

So that what He told Moses becomes, "I'll lay the smackdown on Egypt, but I should warn you it's only gonna make Rameses dig in his heels more until I have no choice but to break him fully."

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:56 PM)

It also describes the "hardening of the Pharoah's heart" as his natural reaction to the plagues rather than an intentional mental override by God.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:54 PM)

Hell, it actually portrays the Plagues as something that's bad and treats most of the Egyptian people as not deserving that shit. "All the innocent who suffer from your stubbornness and pride" and all that.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I'm a Christian, but Prince of Egypt is one of the few religious movies I'll willingly watch, because it's actually good instead of being self-rightous preachy nonsense, batshit crazy propaganda or schmaltzy trash. It also has a great soundtrack with music that I actually put up there with some of Disney's best stuff.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:45 PM)

Dreamworks's best movies will always be the Dragons movies and The Prince of Egypt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Usually I'm willing to give animated films a go, but I have to agree this looked pretty terrible and I had no desire to see it

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

So it's the new "Bee Movie?"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:16 PM)

Calling it now: it'll be a meme in ten years.

@  Paladin : (26 March 2017 - 02:07 PM)

every single person who said "yes" to BOSS BABY should be smacked. repeatedly. with adamantium.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 06:02 AM)

Yeah, I don't sync my Twitter since it's irrelevant to a TF forum and sometimes NSFW.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 06:00 AM)

Ah, okay. I... don't know if that's a good idea or not. I post a lot of cats.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:50 AM)

I believe it will auto post anything you put on Twitter/Facebook to the Status section on the main forum page?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:41 AM)

And I totally miss Krispy Kreme. I mean, they're still around here, but nowhere I don't have to go well out of my way for any more. =(

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:40 AM)

"i think you can sync profiles from both to this site." Not clear on what that means.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

:D I'm glad I have people and sheep who are willing to eat doughnuts for me.

@  Bass X0 : (26 March 2017 - 04:48 AM)

YOU'RE ALREADY CRAZY, MR. "I AM SHRAPNEL, DECEPTICON HERO"!!

@  Waspinator : (26 March 2017 - 04:45 AM)

DON'T MIND IF I DO

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 March 2017 - 04:07 AM)

Go crazy?

@  Waspinator : (26 March 2017 - 03:31 AM)

No TV and no beer make Homer something something

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 March 2017 - 02:18 AM)

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (26 March 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Then again, I'd hate to fill up on Krispy Kremes right before dinner. What if I just bite his face off instead?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (26 March 2017 - 12:49 AM)

Yup.

@  OrionPax44 : (26 March 2017 - 12:48 AM)

MED has a fool proof protection plan. Foffy and I will eat all the Krispy Kreme donuts that stand in here way. Right Foffy?

@  Telly : (26 March 2017 - 12:08 AM)

*throws a krispy kreme* bite that! :p

@  Foffy the Sheep : (25 March 2017 - 11:59 PM)

Anyone who was going to try use MED's weaknessses against her would have to go through me first. And I'm warning you, I bite.

@  Telly : (25 March 2017 - 11:17 PM)

we now know meddmis weakness *rubs hands together sinisterly*

@  MEDdMI : (25 March 2017 - 04:44 PM)

My friends and I sold them in college for fundraising. We often had boxes of them sitting around. I can still smell them. I won't be touching them again unless I'm forced to.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I love love love the hot Krispy Kreme donuts. They opened one in my area and for the first few weeks there was a line out the door of people waiting for hot donuts.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2017 - 02:33 PM)

OFF WITH HIS HEAD! Whoa... okay, that was a total over reaction. What I meant to say was... OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!

@  D Immortalis : (25 March 2017 - 12:52 PM)

honestly i'm not much of fan of Krispy Kreme.

@  Hg Dragon : (25 March 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Who DOESN'T want Krispy Kreme?!?!

@  Noideaforaname : (25 March 2017 - 11:12 AM)

Diabetes? Pftt. I'm a survivor!

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2017 - 11:04 AM)

But diabetes tastes so goooodddd....

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 March 2017 - 09:06 AM)

Nah, I can do without diabetes.

@  Bass X0 : (25 March 2017 - 08:37 AM)

So... who wants Krispy Kreme donuts?

@  Paladin : (25 March 2017 - 06:50 AM)

i think you can sync profiles from both to this site.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

So I'm looking around at my settings at the moment, and I'm noticing "Manage Facebook" and "Manage Twitter," but I have to log in with those to see anything. What do those offer?

@  Robowang : (24 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

Thanks.

@  Jalaguy : (24 March 2017 - 03:38 PM)

A gun was definitely jumped, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Big apology to everyone who wanted to stay spoiler-free.

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 March 2017 - 03:08 PM)

Oh hey the news post in question turned up on my Tumblr dash, too. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot.


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#1 D Buster Prime

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 10:30 PM

I've seen the first two episodes, and I like it.

 

What I love is that basically everybody except for Archie has been updated with the times, while remaining true to the spirit of the comic books.  Archie is a lovable, yet naive, good-hearted goof.

 

In addition to the typical CW relationship drama, there's a murder mystery and a noir feel thrown into the mix.  If you're into cheesey teen dramas, this one is definitely better than most and worth your time.

 

If you're into Archie, I think you'll be able to tell if this is for you after a couple episodes, and those that have enjoyed the recent further-reaching adaptations in the comic books will likely get a kick out of this.

 

If the only part of the Arrow-verse you enjoy is easter-egg references to comic books in between ass-kicking, this may not be your cup of tea.


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:20 PM

I liked the first episode, though dark and edgy Riverdale is pretty hard to swallow. I hope Aguirre-Sacasa doesn't bring too much of Afterlife with Archie to the show. I mean, great book (if you're into that sort of thing) but even without the zombies I don't think we need the show to go that far.

Mostly I have my fingers crossed for Hot Dog.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 08:30 AM

This show is like eating a bag of potato chips. You know it's not good for you, and will probably come back to haunt you later, but you just can't seem to quit it until it's over.


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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 12:38 PM

I've only seen the first episode so far, but I mostly enjoy it. Its a pretty good send up to the Archieverse and its characters, while also being the sorta typical CW Drama. 


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Posted 04 February 2017 - 06:32 PM

Watched the first episode but not big into either the teen drama genre or Archie to keep it going. I'll watch it if it's on maybe but I don't think I'm going to keep it going as I would the Arrowverse shows. The Superman spin is what kept me with Smallville all ten seasons even for the lackluster payoff. Archie just isn't going to draw me in long term.


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Posted 04 February 2017 - 07:01 PM

Watched the first episode but not big into either the teen drama genre or Archie to keep it going. I'll watch it if it's on maybe but I don't think I'm going to keep it going as I would the Arrowverse shows. The Superman spin is what kept me with Smallville all ten seasons even for the lackluster payoff. Archie just isn't going to draw me in long term.

The thing that seems to be keeping me going with it is that it seems to have an ongoing serialized narrative that will continue from episode to episode with the mystery surrounding Jason's death driving the story forward.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 02:14 PM

Saw two eps. I think it's too easy to have any main character seen so far be the killer. Maybe someone will appear mid season to be the killer. Too easy to be Cheryl or Betty's mom.

Who the hell is Polly? Did Betty really have a sister?

Grundy is, well, wow. It's not the real Grundy tho. The comic Grundy is Gertrude and this one is Geraldine.

I feel that Reggie should be scheming and more involved here. Kevin has a bigger role than him and Reggie is a classic main cast guy.

Kinda disappointed in loner, unfunny Jughead. He's the coolest guy in the comics for me and here, he's so dark, haha.

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 02:55 PM

I'm digging it so far. I do think it's pretty cheesy, but I do eat that stuff up. 

 

I do love Jughead's narration over the episode and the very 'Twin Peaks' feel to the mood. I'm excited to see where it goes.

 

Also, I'm wondering how you can follow up with Season 2. Will there be another murder? A disappearance? I just see themselves having issues topping the murder from this season.


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 04:06 PM

Who the hell is Polly? Did Betty really have a sister?

I feel that Reggie should be scheming and more involved here. Kevin has a bigger role than him and Reggie is a classic main cast guy.

Kinda disappointed in loner, unfunny Jughead. He's the coolest guy in the comics for me and here, he's so dark, haha.

 

I looked some of this up after the first episode, since some things didn't match with my memories of Archie:

 

Betty has an older Brother and Sister, though they were apparently kinda non-canon for a bit only showing up n 'Lil Archie' comics to be a more 'adult' presence. They came into offical canon in the 90's with their absences explained due to having Jobs away from Riverdale. Also, Betty's Mom being kinda a bitch is different from the comics as well.

 

Jughead's personality here seems to be shaped by Jason's Death and whatever cuased him and Archie to no longer be as close as they were. 

 

Regie is apparently gonna get more focus as the season goes on, based on a bit I read about upcoming character. 


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 06:40 PM

My money's on Ms. Grundy.

She could turn out to be the obsessive-type who was also sleeping with Jason and shot him after he dumped her or threatened to make their relationship public.

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 08:54 PM

Miss Grundy was with Archie when they both heard the gunshot at the river. She couldn't be in two places at once.


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 09:06 PM

That's what she WANTS you to think. 


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 10:51 PM

Miss Grundy was with Archie when they both heard the gunshot at the river. She couldn't be in two places at once.

The end of episode 2 tells us the gunshot they heard isn't the one that killed him since they say he died a week later.


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Posted 06 February 2017 - 01:45 PM

Also, I'm wondering how you can follow up with Season 2. Will there be another murder? A disappearance? I just see themselves having issues topping the murder from this season.


I'm actually wondering if it'll be like the comics where there's no continuity and season 2 will be Veronica arriving again and there's a different mystery, haha.

I did see Betty's mom and dad in the comics before but they barely register. It's was Fred, Archie's mom and Mr Lodge who were always around. I don't recall Fred being a construction guy but it was a good excuse to explain how Archie got hot, haha.

Aw, I suddenly miss the Mr Lodge and Smothers dynamic of can't standing Archie.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 12:34 AM

 

Also, I'm wondering how you can follow up with Season 2. Will there be another murder? A disappearance? I just see themselves having issues topping the murder from this season.


I'm actually wondering if it'll be like the comics where there's no continuity and season 2 will be Veronica arriving again and there's a different mystery, haha.

This time, it'll be Cheryl who died and Jason will be the school's grieving big man on campus.

 

Instead of Archie taking Jason's football number, Betty or Veronica will take Cheryl's cheerleading position.


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:19 AM

Just caught episode 3. Man, even Dilton isn't safe from the CW's brood writing.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:09 AM

Episode 3 recap:  Betty is straight up cray-cray. The scarlet lipstick...the wig...incarnating her allegedly cray-cray sister...GOLD!

 

 

Line of the episode:

 

Archie's Dad:  I met your met your music teacher last night.  Yeah, Miss Grundy?  Whoa. They did not look like that back in my day, son.

 

 

For being an obvious over-the-top guilty pleasure, this show is WAY better than it has any right to be!


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Posted 12 February 2017 - 09:51 AM

I had a different answer in mind when Josie asked Archie why they were called the Pussycats.

I'm sorry. (Hahahaha)

Ethel's name appeared on the book twice. (Btw, she's really Barb from Stranger Things?) And I saw Midge listed and followed by 'Go Moose!'.

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 05:09 PM

I thought episode three was a bit disappointing, it just all felt a bit clunky to me, like the dialogue could have used an extra polish or the execution was just a bit off. And I'm worried that Betty's a bit too crazy. And everything that has anything to do with Cheryl is just kind of insufferably stupid. 

 

But on the whole, still enjoying the show a lot. Big Luke Perry fan (best Buffy character) and loving Cole Sprouse's Jughead. For some reason. 


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:22 AM

wait, the suite life of zack and cody cole sprouse?


 

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