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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not


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#61 Fortress Ironhold

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:34 AM

Putting Storm and Black Panther together again is probably a bad start as far as some readers are concerned. And really, how many Black Panther books did Marvel think the market would carry?! 

 

Regardless, this is sad. Is Marvel right about diversity and social issues suddenly becoming sales killers? That's a pretty shitty position for us to be in.

I question whether the issue is "diversity & social issues" as it is "how it's being presented", especially in a situation like this where popular characters couldn't even save a book. 



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:31 AM

Are they popular characters though? When was the last time one of those characters carried a book long-term?

Storm obviously is beloved as a member of the X-Men, and I think she got a year or two out of her last solo series? Which isn't bad. Similarly Cage works well as an Avenger or whatever, but when did he last sustain a solo(-ish) ongoing for any prolonged period (with or without Danny)?

Presumably the current Black Panther book has been selling well, since they almost immediately launched two spinoff books, but it's not like T'Challa's been a sales juggernaut in recent years.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:09 AM

Are they popular characters though? When was the last time one of those characters carried a book long-term?

Storm obviously is beloved as a member of the X-Men, and I think she got a year or two out of her last solo series? Which isn't bad. Similarly Cage works well as an Avenger or whatever, but when did he last sustain a solo(-ish) ongoing for any prolonged period (with or without Danny)?

Presumably the current Black Panther book has been selling well, since they almost immediately launched two spinoff books, but it's not like T'Challa's been a sales juggernaut in recent years.

 

The last and only time Cage was able to sustain a series was 1986 when Powerman and Iron Fist ended.  T'challa hasn't been able to hold a book up since Hudlin's shitty run ended in 2008 and that book didn't see 50 issues.  

 

Black heroes don't sell well.  The bestselling Black comic book character of all time isn't even recognizable as a Black man.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:36 PM

Didn't the latest Power Man and Iron Fist run only get cancelled because of Defenders/the Iron Fist solo, so that Walker would move to a Cage solo book?

(That was a damn good comic, by the way, just saying.)

 

Incidentally, I read an article recently that mentioned that sales on Black Panther dropped massively when World of Wakanda and The Crew came out, and likewise for Doctor Strange when Sorcerers Supreme came out. Apparently spinoffs are more likely to hurt "brand potential" than help it.

 

Oh, and one more thing - using "The Crew" seemed kind of tone-deaf to me, since when Priest originally wrote The Crew he didn't intend for it to be "the black Avengers", and putting a bunch of characters with little more connection than "they're all black" together under that name just seems like a bad idea.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:27 PM


Spinoffs now a days make people say "Collecting this 'family' of books is now too expensive" and so they drop them all even the original single book they had liked.

-ZacWilliam, comic books are absolutely way way too expensive for what you get nowadays and that's a big factor in killing the whole industry.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:34 PM

The decompression of the Aughts is what really killed it. Having to wait a whole year for the resolution of a story that would have taken an issue or two previously.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:14 PM

Oh, there's a 'real' Steve Rogers out there? Who could've possibly foreseen that? (Spencer's still a jackass, but c'mon,)

 

On the topic of Marvel sales, I conducted a little non-scientific research while briefly glancing at the 'recent' issues area at my comic store. Harley's Little Black Book was the only major DC release with more than three copies of the most recent issue, and not that many even had three. Marvel had thick stacks of such books as Secret Empire, Guardians of the Galaxy, Royals, Scarlet Spider, Nick Fury, and... there were more but I should've written this post a bit sooner than 7 hours after being there. DC also had slightly more empty slots where the most recent issue was totally sold out.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:15 PM

OK, so having read Secret Empire 2, the Two Steves reveal was weird. The sequence where WWII Steve was revealed was drawn my a different art team.

I wonder why the split, though? Was it always in the plans? Did Kobik bring back THIS Steve before she was shattered? Is this even OUR Steve? One of the theories I've seen was that this "good" Steve is Ultimate Cap surviving Secret Wars.

The different art style also begs the question: was this a last minute addition due to the backlash?

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 06:59 PM

 

Putting Storm and Black Panther together again is probably a bad start as far as some readers are concerned. And really, how many Black Panther books did Marvel think the market would carry?! 

 

Regardless, this is sad. Is Marvel right about diversity and social issues suddenly becoming sales killers? That's a pretty shitty position for us to be in.

I question whether the issue is "diversity & social issues" as it is "how it's being presented", especially in a situation like this where popular characters couldn't even save a book. 

 

I'm actually offended they just threw all these black people together when they don't really gel. But I heard Coates wasn't allowed to use the original crew.



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Posted 20 May 2017 - 08:06 PM

After talking with some other comic enthusiasts, I'm wondering what things would be like if Marvel & co. went "Silver Age" for a while. 

 

Simple, back-to-basics stories. Issues build off of each other, but someone just dropping in won't be too lost. Key headline characters like Spider-Man, Captain America, and Black Panther are written with an eye to an "all ages" target demographic, while characters like Deadpool and Wolverine get hand-picked teams who can handle more "mature" titles without giving into grimdark or 90s!extreme. Politics and social issues are handled carefully and in measured doses, meaning that they only appear where appropriate instead of hammering the reader over the head issue after issue; for example, a single, well-written issue devoted to Luke Cage confronting racism instead of a slapdash series. 

 

I think this might be a way for Marvel to go, especially since these are the kinds of stories we're getting in a lot of the television series and even some of the movies right now. 



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 12:08 PM

After talking with some other comic enthusiasts, I'm wondering what things would be like if Marvel & co. went "Silver Age" for a while. 

 

Simple, back-to-basics stories. Issues build off of each other, but someone just dropping in won't be too lost. Key headline characters like Spider-Man, Captain America, and Black Panther are written with an eye to an "all ages" target demographic, while characters like Deadpool and Wolverine get hand-picked teams who can handle more "mature" titles without giving into grimdark or 90s!extreme. Politics and social issues are handled carefully and in measured doses, meaning that they only appear where appropriate instead of hammering the reader over the head issue after issue; for example, a single, well-written issue devoted to Luke Cage confronting racism instead of a slapdash series. 

 

I think this might be a way for Marvel to go, especially since these are the kinds of stories we're getting in a lot of the television series and even some of the movies right now. 

 

I don't know how well it would sell, but it would certainly get ME interested in buying comics again. Even better since the page counts are lower than back when I read, use the old two-parter format for most stories so there is a cliffhanger every other month. 



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:03 PM

So, today's Mighty Thor #20 reveals our new War Thor.

 

But first, Roz Solomon and Volstagg try to recruit the realm of Nidavellir in the war against Malekith and the Dark Council. Unfortunately, Volstagg fails to save several Light Elf refugees from Alfheim from a Muspelheim Firefly Rider equipped with Maggot Bombs, yelling about someone called the Queen of Cinders.

 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 08:45 AM

Between canceled titles (Gamora, Great Lakes Avengers, Nova, Star-Lord) soon to be canceled titles (Silver Surfer, Rocket, Ultimates2) and titles I'm letting my subs expire on (Doctor Strange, Venom) my pull list is going from 14 to 6 (Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain Marvel, Ms.Marvel, Thanos, Unbeatable Squirrel Girl) with U.S.Avengers being to only title I'm going to START picking up.

I'm not anti-Marvel (Secret Empire is really trying my patience though) but they appear to be rapidly losing my interest.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:10 AM

I'm skipping absolutely everything with Secret Empire written on it.

Right now I usually buy:

Unbeatable Squirrel Girl
Moon Girl and DD
Unstoppable Wasp (It's REALLY good!)
Monsters Unleashed (much better than the event)
Jean Grey
and Silver Surfer (in theory, I'm behind)

With my new Marvel Unlimited sub I've just caught up as far as they go on Gwenpool, Totally Awesome Hulk and Mighty Thor. Totally digging those three enough that I may dip in and out depending on what I get a chance to buy in the gap between MU and what's on shelf now.

As for what we know of Legacy, at the very least I'm gonna check out Awesome Hulk's "Return to Planet Hulk" story.

-ZacWilliam, I'd like there to be an Avenger book that really appealed to me but other than the two issues co-written by the Wasp writer nothing recent has appealed to me.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:24 AM

Here's the upcoming line-up. (There's rumors of a 53rd title, Captain America, that's being left off  probably due to spoiler reasons)

 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:44 AM


I believe there is some evidence that there will be other books besides these. I can't remember what it was but I was listening to some Comic Podcast discussing it. These may just be the "Legacy" branded books with others outside that or folded into it later.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:56 PM

Marvel Legacy #1 specifically mentions being "The set-up for 53 Marvel Universe series" and there's 52 on that list (the rumored cap book would make 53, not 54: my mistake)


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 01:11 PM


On the other hand it doesn't say there aren't Marvel Books it's not set up for.

Again, shrug. I don't even remember what it was that they even brought up suggesting there would be MU books not part of Legacy so I can't support the idea much, I just remember it sounded like a reasonable supposition. So who knows.


-ZacWilliam, honestly I'm stunned the Legacy imprint looks so much like what they're already publishing. I would have expected a LOT more shake up in books and creators.
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Posted 06 July 2017 - 04:25 PM

One hesitates to open that can of worms again, but man - I love those high numbers we're seeing. 

 

Marvel Two-in-One?! Good luck with THAT, Marvel. 


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Posted 07 July 2017 - 03:13 AM

They're cancelling Silver Surfer? That sucks. This is the most I've cared about that character... ever.

 

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