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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 June 2021 - 02:04 PM)

Fedex sucks

@  tigerhawk : (23 June 2021 - 10:09 AM)

"This never happened to the other fellow." -  One of my fave meta jokes in movies from 007: On her Majesty's Secret Service.

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Daddy!

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Not just any girl - your mom!

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Happy Knocked-Up-A-Girl Day!

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Happy father's day!

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what up sluts?

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Only 6? Filthy casual.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2021 - 04:26 PM)

Multiplaying as in "playing with other people" or multiplaying as in "6 WoW accounts running at the same time"?

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 June 2021 - 01:45 PM)

Oh no! Darkeklaw is multiplaying! (See birthday box)

@  tigerhawk : (19 June 2021 - 11:54 AM)

In my Marvel comic canon the second wave of special teams were handpicked active robots whose experience would theoretically make more stable combiners, the Combaticons came from Cybertron, the Protectobots were imprinted from crystals explaining both Onslauhghts ancestry and First Aid's experience.

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Spotlight: Lioconvoy?

@  Bass X0 : (18 June 2021 - 04:15 PM)

How long until IDW puts out an Optimus Pride Month comic?

@  Cyoti : (18 June 2021 - 03:32 PM)

Even with B5, it didn't follow its original 5-year plan. Summaries from the supplementary materials for the scriptbooks demonstrates that was originally planned was very different from the actual product. Sinclair's actor's departure seemingly changed the show to the point that the stuff with the Vorlons/Shadows, the Minbari and the ending were all changed. Mapping out a show years in advance is difficult because of changing bts stuff like writers/actors leaving the show or suddenly having to retool because of ratings/execs. No plan survives intact especially in a chaotic environment of television production.

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2021 - 11:27 AM)

To be like Babylon 5, you need to cram a 2 season story arc into one because you fear being cancelled, then get further seasons you have no more material for. You also need a spinoff which the network heads don't want and do everything in their power to kill it while it's on air.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 June 2021 - 10:33 AM)

The required effort is probably why we don't have babylon 6; TNG.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 10:23 AM)

Everyone wants to be like Babylon 5 but no one wants to put in the effort

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:36 AM)

And then, after five years of hosting their own official podcast where they would answer fan questions and always encouraged their audience to pay attention to the mysteries, after the show had ended, they claimed the show was never really about the mysteries, it was all about the characters.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:34 AM)

What really bugs me with "Lost" is that the producers had willfully negotiated a set end date with the network halfway through season 3 (the show ended with season 6, as planned) specifically so they could plan out the plot for the remainder of the show. Then... the plot wasn't resolved properly.

@  tigerhawk : (18 June 2021 - 04:17 AM)

By then I had lost interest in arc TV shows, I followed a few and got the impression they were just making them up as they went along. Seemed to be a trend starting with new Galactica and Lost though in actuality began with The X Files and has become a trope called 'The Chris Carter Effect'.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:12 AM)

I think it was season 3 part 1 specifically, since they had two separate plot "arcs" for season 3.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:11 AM)

They threw everything in there, with no clear story structure, no clear stakes, and characters flip-flopping wherever the episode's writer needed them to go for their half-baked plot.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:10 AM)

Season 3 was the worst, with a terrible meandering random events plot.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 11:59 PM)

'save the cheerleader' then in season 3 he tears her skull open, scans her power and she simply heals. They didn't think any of it through.

@  Shockwave 75 : (17 June 2021 - 07:04 PM)

Well, you know Hollywood; if something's popular, run it into the ground!

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

It never truly recovered from that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Season 1 was good until the finale.

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because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

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The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

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That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

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Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

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I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

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Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

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I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

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Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

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I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

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You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

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Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

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Kewl. Thanks!

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Hey everybody! I wanted to announce that Sarahthecutevixen is our newest addition to the Allspark staff. She's primarily looking over discord stuff, but I wanted to make sure she got a welcome over here as well.

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Get your own Big Mouth BassX0 for the low price of $19.95 (plusshippingandhandling)

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Mr. Speaker, we are for the Bass X0.

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It's all about that Bass XD.


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#41 Internet Jesus

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:10 PM

It's because I've been reading from the start and it's frustrating that people like Rich Johnston didn't read the whole thing and reported things for Clickbait.

 

Man, I just like good stories and things getting twisted around like this is just frustrating. They explain everything like I showed in my imgur folder.

 

You know what else from Marvel is good right now?

Ultimates 2.

 

That's the stuff. Good ol' Cosmic Marvel always cheers me up.


But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM

I don't care really enough to dig deep into the books. If I did I'd probably be reading them.

The Hydraverse being real is an awful idea, sure, but whether it's the case or not its kinda irrelivant to me on some level. Really the whole tone and concept behind the story is just antithetical to what I want out of my superhero comics. I just dislike the whole concept of a year plus of Cap as a secret terrible fascist villain who manipulates everyone, betrays them and takes over the US. Just yuck. Especially given current world events. The "let's pretend they're not Nazi's in every way that matters" stuff, the confluence of unfortunate to outright offensive themes, and Spencer's ridiculous online hoopla only reinforce that already strong distaste.

I'm very happy all the Marvel Comics I love right now: Squirrel Girl, Moon Girl, Wasp, Silver Surfer and Monsters Unleashed are staying the heck away from the whole thing. There are a few books I had an interest in that I'm now actively not buying until this thing is over and past.


-ZacWilliam, on a positive Marvel note, 1) yes I've heard Ultimate continues to be really good. and 2) the Monsters Unleashed event didn't do much for me but the first issue of the ongoing was wonderful and pretty much exactly what I do want from a Marvel comic.

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 10:36 PM

Good ol' Cosmic Marvel always cheers me up.

 

Eeeeyup.

Bendis is off the Guardians, Gamora and Thanos are still excellent. Nova is circling the drain, which is really unfortunate, but I'll take three out of four things to be happy about in Marvel comics. Especially right now.



#44 Internet Jesus

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 10:55 PM

Al Ewing is at his best right now on Ultimates. He's the continuity wizard that Slott used to be.

Dude just explained in the new Ultimates issue that the Celestial that showed up at the beginning of Civil War II was a Dark Celestial in his current who-chained-Eternity storyline. And basically gave us the origin of the Celestials, to boot.

He also sprinkled in some Malibu Ego Gem stuff as well as tying in some New Universe stuff. Ultimates is far and away my favorite Marvel book right now and I hope they leave Ewing's titles alone.

Edited by Internet Jesus, 27 April 2017 - 11:01 PM.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


#45 Internet Jesus

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 11:05 PM

And look at the cast. Captain Marvel is the only white person on the team. America Chavez is 5000% more charming in this book than her own title. Everyone is written masterfully. COSMIC MARVEL. And Galactus is a supporting character.

Ultimates is written well, the art is on point, and it's mostly free from Event bullshit. And even if it gets dragged into them, Ewing does it seamlessly.
And look at the cast. Captain Marvel is the only white person on the team. America Chavez is 5000% more charming in this book than her own title. Everyone is written masterfully. COSMIC MARVEL. And Galactus is a supporting character.

Ultimates is written well, the art is on point, and it's mostly free from Event bullshit. And even if it gets dragged into them, Ewing does it seamlessly.

This is what I want out of Marvel.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:37 AM

I read the first Ewing Ultimates series and enjoyed the first half, but Civil War II ruined it for me. When I picked up a new issue to find out the team had broken up in another comic, I gave up - Ewing has a history of bending events to make them work for him, a high tide that raises all boats, but this wasn't one of those times. I decided I wouldn't be coming back for Ultimates 2 in single issues. But I will grab the trade in a sale at some point. 


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#47 Internet Jesus

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:16 PM

The break up is pretty much a ruse. They officially are back together in the current issue.

Give it a shot. Some really, really big stuff happened in the past couple issues.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 01:04 AM

I kinda love that Marvel had to basically come out and say "Secret Empire doesn't matter, real Cap will be back soon!" just to try and quell fan outrage.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:36 AM

What did they say?

 

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:12 AM

What did they say?
 
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At Marvel, we want to assure all of our fans that we hear your concerns about aligning Captain America with Hydra and we politely ask you to allow the story to unfold before coming to any conclusion.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:12 AM

So basically the Internet Jesus way of trying to address concerns, got it.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:14 PM

It's infuriating that so many readers can somehow fail to realise that this is one story in a decades-long serial where literally everything is transient and reliant on the whims of the current editors and writers, who will always be a short-term part of the narrative, regularly replaced by new teams with different takes who change, remove and retcon whatever suits them. OBVIOUSLY this isn't the ongoing status quo until the end of time.

 

I'm not saying this whole thing isn't stupid and/or badly handled, but it's one story arc. It will come and go. Even if it ends with "and this was the truest facts, forever" we can be certain that it will be swept away soon enough. How can any person who has been reading comics for longer than this story has existed not know that? And if you dislike it enough to stop reading, that's fine -- you can go back to your old trades or floppies and cocoon yourself in a safer time. It's obviously okay to vote with your wallet and say "thanks Marvel, I'm out til this garbage is done".

 

But it would be sad if the message they get from all this controversy is "don't bother trying to tell stories where anything actually happens", I guess.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:39 PM


Nobody intelligent or into comics for even a year or two EVER imagined this was in any way perminent.

That's not the problem people have with it at all. The actual problems include distaste in the whole concept even as a temporary thing, offense at the tone deaf ideas/defenses from Marvel, and general event fatigue, among other things.


-ZacWilliam, for myself, in a world where our government is disgusting as today I don't want a book about Cap being disgusting, even if he loses/is rescued at ending.
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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:18 PM

My problem comes with: Agents of Shield already did this in the framework. And better


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Posted 06 May 2017 - 01:51 AM

Nobody intelligent or into comics for even a year or two EVER imagined this was in any way perminent.

That's not the problem people have with it at all. The actual problems include distaste in the whole concept even as a temporary thing, offense at the tone deaf ideas/defenses from Marvel, and general event fatigue, among other things.


-ZacWilliam, for myself, in a world where our government is disgusting as today I don't want a book about Cap being disgusting, even if he loses/is rescued at ending.


It sounds to me like the folks at Marvel has basically forgotten that comics were ultimately meant to be escapism, with the bulk of the readership coming back to get a few minutes' respite from the real world.

I've only found a few people who like the current arc; the rest are ready for it to be done with.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:11 PM

https://heatst.com/e...-to-poor-sales/

 

How is it that a comic featuring Black Panther, Luke Cage, *and* Storm can fail so badly as to be cancelled two issues in? 



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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:22 PM

Putting Storm and Black Panther together again is probably a bad start as far as some readers are concerned. And really, how many Black Panther books did Marvel think the market would carry?! 

 

Regardless, this is sad. Is Marvel right about diversity and social issues suddenly becoming sales killers? That's a pretty shitty position for us to be in.


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#58 Internet Jesus

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:45 PM

So, umm. Some spoilers for Secret Empire #2.

 

Spoiler

 

What.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:17 PM

I'm not quite sure, but is it bad that I kinda dig it?

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:18 PM

It's actually a Secret Invasion sequel and everyone's a Skrull?


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