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@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.


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#1 Johnny Here

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:04 AM

Jesus Christ

Its worse than cry for justice

#2 Broadside

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:54 AM

Nah.
It's mediocre, sure, and nowhere near the level of Power Man and Iron Fist or Nighthawk, but it's not BAD. Certainly a lot better than the name suggests.

Also, apparently the author wanted to use American Eagle, but was told to use Red Wolf (because all Natives are the same, I guess?)

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 11:19 AM

I like American Eagle. Glad he isnt in this.

This isnt mediocre. Its BAD.

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 07:21 PM

How so?


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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:36 PM

im actually really enjoying Occupy Avengers...i like Red Wolf...i like where its going, its also leaps and bounds better than the regular Avengers book.

 

Also, whats wrong with Powerman and Iron Fist? that book is LOADS of fun.

 

and hell pretty much anythin that Marvels got out right now is better that than steaming crap that is Squirrel Girl.


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Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:24 PM

I think she meant in the sense of "nowhere near as good as these two"


 

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:11 PM

A lot of Marvel's pretty bad right now. Nova's the only thing I'm really digging, plus Hulk, Unworthy Thor, Hydra Cap and Ultimates.

 

I hate to say it, but Marvel needs to reset its slate. Marvel's in a bad state right now of pumping out titles that no one cares about and pushing certain titles that under-perform badly. And the reports of them overshipping comics is quite bad. My local store is giving overshipped comics away now.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:20 AM


Squirrel Girl is absolutely at the top of the "best things Marvel has published in decades" list.

Occupy Avengers just bored me in concept. Not what I'm interested in Super Hero comic wise. But I've honestly heard mostly good things from others folks after the first couple issues at least.

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:11 AM

Squirrel Girl is absolutely at the top of the "best things Marvel has published in decades" list.

Occupy Avengers just bored me in concept. Not what I'm interested in Super Hero comic wise. But I've honestly heard mostly good things from others folks after the first couple issues at least.

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.

 

i hated the Batgirl revamp too, but I oddly love Hellcat. Ms Marvel and Gwenpool are at the top of my fave female led books...Squirrel Girl just doesn't work for me, I hate the tiny text thing, I dunno, its just not a book that's written for me...and that's ok...the best part of comics is being able to find books that speak to you and enjoy them.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:43 AM

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.


I've said it before, but I can't enjoy USG. The art is... well, it's bad; character's faces are grotesquely distorted in a way that doesn't line up with their intended expressions, there are irritating proportion errors, and the backgrounds and colours tend to be sparse and ugly. There was a fill-in artist a few months back who was mimicking Henderson's style but without the face or anatomy issues and it made it so much more readable.
As for the writing, every character just feels like "Ryan North dressed as [character]". They don't have their own voices. Plus, I don't feel like the college setting is a good fit for what I want out of Squirrel Girl.
That said: I do really like North's characterisation of Doreen, and it works really well when she's in stuff like New Avengers. Also I like Nancy.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:16 AM

I love Ryan North, and I have loved Squirrel Girl for many years, but yeah, at launch the book wasn't doing it for me. And despite Marvel trying to push her pretty hard I haven't been compelled to go back.

Gwenpool... that's a book explicitly designed to piss a lot of people off. The whole concept must be pretty irritating... to readers who are boring losers. Because oh my god, what a book. First Gwenpool appearance I read blew my mind, I had no idea what her deal was and was not prepared for it. I assumed she was just a Deadpool/Gwen Stacy mashup taking the piss out of Spider-Gwen but that doesn't scratch the surface. So funny, so much fun.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 02:52 PM

Occupy Avengers seems a lot subtler about grappling with "real world" issues than Champions does at least.  Too bad Hawkeye's gotten all murder-y of late...him and Red Wolf do give off a whole "Lone Ranger and Tonto" vibe.

 

I do feel like they're trying to pinhole Clint Barton into that "regular guy dealing with regular problems" niche now.  Not everything has to be like that Fraction book.  The whole point of Hawkeye is that he's a regular bloke who stands among supersoldiers, mutants, and gods and holds his own.

 

I miss Hawkeye and Mockingbird.  There was a fun book. 





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