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@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I'm genuinely amused/impressed, even if it wasn't intentional.

@  Benbot : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

That's a lot of shouting

@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Wow, Bass, your post took up the entire Shoutbox exactly without being over/under a line.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM)

The best Marvel issue is, was, and always will be Decepticon Graffiti. The Battlechargers are awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (01 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

ReGeneration was criticised for being too slow paced and drawn out way too long, yet the Decepticon leaders are introduced and dispatched just to tick the box that they made an appearance. I also preferred the single stand alone stories from the original Marvel comics instead of each issue having like four different plots running through it, which didn't make for satisfying reading IMO. If a writer is writing for a trade, don't release individual issues. I also thought the artwork was poor - before, the Marvel comics tried to have the best artwork they could at the time, whereas now they were intentionally limiting themselves to appear "retro", and it shows. The pacing was the worst though, some characters just stand around doing nothing to progress their part of the story, like Shockwave's segments. In contrast, compare any six consecutive issues from the Marvel comics and a whole lot more happens than in RG1. Furman also fell into his pattern of wasting space world building and pointless scenes when the story had to end at #100.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:10 PM)

Even then, Furman's material never really had a huge toy-push aspect to it, other than "here's new character!"

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Considering it was a wrap-up for a story whose toyline had ended anyway, I feel like it worked out well enough. I mean, the last major iteration did play an important part in things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

New comics didn't need to shill any toys at all...so there wasn't any push to do weird and different things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:03 PM)

The big problem is that stuff like the old comics were produced under the idea of shilling toys...which ultimately resulted in a lot of the weirdness people remember

@  Rycochet : (01 March 2017 - 02:01 PM)

He was hired to write an exercise in nostalgia and that's what he produced.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 01:38 PM)

Speaking of Marvel, finally read the rest of ReGeneration One, thanks to a Comixology sale. I... don't understand the hate.

@  lastmaximal : (28 February 2017 - 09:09 PM)

Works for some, not all. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trademark

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 08:57 PM)

Yeah, making it "Autobot X" seems to be their way of getting around many of those issues with overly generic terms

@  Rycochet : (28 February 2017 - 08:41 PM)

Hasbro would just call the toys Marvel's Thunderstrike or Autobot/Decepticon Thunderstrike.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 08:19 PM)

D.C. owns Bumblebee and they've made toys of her, so if a Mattel licensee can share names with a TF...

@  Telly : (28 February 2017 - 07:42 PM)

doesnt marvel own that? i know theyve got the comic character, not sure about the name for toys though. there ever been a thunderstrike figure? would it even be in the same area as a tf name?

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:38 PM)

You know, "Thunderstrike" would actually be a pretty kickass TF name! Surprised it's never been used!

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:27 PM)

Thunderstruck.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:25 PM)

How about Thunderblust? http://gatherer.wiza...iverseid=157411

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:23 PM)

Or Shockburninator, who turns into a satellite and a dragon.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Burninationblastatron

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

It's Thunderblast, but she turns into a wingaling dragon instead of "transforming" into a boat.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Thunderburninator.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:20 PM)

You need to get "blast" in there somewhere

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 11:26 AM)

THATCH-ROOF COTTAGEEEEEEEEES

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2017 - 03:06 AM)

Only if the packaging looks like a thatch-roofed cottage.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 09:27 PM)

They need to make a dragonbot named "Burninatron."

@  BlackMax : (27 February 2017 - 09:15 PM)

I find upcoming Last Knght's Steelbane sexy. A very Skyrim name for a giant robot who is also a dragon? Be still my heart.

@  MEDdMI : (27 February 2017 - 06:24 PM)

I never found most Hollywood heartthrobs sexy, even if they were around my age. I think I knew even back then that the char they play doesn't reflect how the actor really looks/behaves.

@  Rycochet : (27 February 2017 - 06:11 PM)

The only thing I've seen with Megan Fox in is the Jonah Hex movie... She was bad, but everyone and everything was bad.

@  RichardT1977 : (27 February 2017 - 05:53 PM)

Modern western culture, ladies and gentlemen...

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:50 PM)

Ha! You can't fool a true Z-block afficionado like me! That's actually an S-block viewed from behind!

@  The Doctor Who : (27 February 2017 - 04:36 PM)

*unveils a Tetris Z-Block in moody lighting* Not at aaaaall?

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:27 PM)

That would be silly.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Because I definitely wasn't. Nope. Not at all.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Am I the only straight male Nintendo fan who was never strangely aroused by the Tetris Z-block?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Her acting makes her come across as a living Pat Lee illustration.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:27 PM)

No. No, you're not.

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 01:26 PM)

And am I the only straight male Transformers fan who never found Megan Fox attractive?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:21 PM)

Especially since she's the same age as my parents.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:19 PM)

It's like I instinctually knew that by the time I watched the movies, it'd be weird since IRL she was way older than me.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:18 PM)

Am I, like, the only straight male Star Wars fan who never had a thing for Leia?

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 12:44 PM)

Call the police!

@  Paladin : (27 February 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Kubo got robbed. TWICE.

@  Lazy Garou : (27 February 2017 - 08:10 AM)

god! Thrawn is awesome.he's got super detective skills!

@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.


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Occupy Avengers is pretty bad


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#1 Johnny Here

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:04 AM

Jesus Christ

Its worse than cry for justice

#2 Broadside

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:54 AM

Nah.
It's mediocre, sure, and nowhere near the level of Power Man and Iron Fist or Nighthawk, but it's not BAD. Certainly a lot better than the name suggests.

Also, apparently the author wanted to use American Eagle, but was told to use Red Wolf (because all Natives are the same, I guess?)

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 11:19 AM

I like American Eagle. Glad he isnt in this.

This isnt mediocre. Its BAD.

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 07:21 PM

How so?


It's a Newcomic (apparently)

#5 D Immortalis

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:36 PM

im actually really enjoying Occupy Avengers...i like Red Wolf...i like where its going, its also leaps and bounds better than the regular Avengers book.

 

Also, whats wrong with Powerman and Iron Fist? that book is LOADS of fun.

 

and hell pretty much anythin that Marvels got out right now is better that than steaming crap that is Squirrel Girl.


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Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:24 PM

I think she meant in the sense of "nowhere near as good as these two"


 

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:11 PM

A lot of Marvel's pretty bad right now. Nova's the only thing I'm really digging, plus Hulk, Unworthy Thor, Hydra Cap and Ultimates.

 

I hate to say it, but Marvel needs to reset its slate. Marvel's in a bad state right now of pumping out titles that no one cares about and pushing certain titles that under-perform badly. And the reports of them overshipping comics is quite bad. My local store is giving overshipped comics away now.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:20 AM


Squirrel Girl is absolutely at the top of the "best things Marvel has published in decades" list.

Occupy Avengers just bored me in concept. Not what I'm interested in Super Hero comic wise. But I've honestly heard mostly good things from others folks after the first couple issues at least.

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:11 AM

Squirrel Girl is absolutely at the top of the "best things Marvel has published in decades" list.

Occupy Avengers just bored me in concept. Not what I'm interested in Super Hero comic wise. But I've honestly heard mostly good things from others folks after the first couple issues at least.

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.

 

i hated the Batgirl revamp too, but I oddly love Hellcat. Ms Marvel and Gwenpool are at the top of my fave female led books...Squirrel Girl just doesn't work for me, I hate the tiny text thing, I dunno, its just not a book that's written for me...and that's ok...the best part of comics is being able to find books that speak to you and enjoy them.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:43 AM

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.


I've said it before, but I can't enjoy USG. The art is... well, it's bad; character's faces are grotesquely distorted in a way that doesn't line up with their intended expressions, there are irritating proportion errors, and the backgrounds and colours tend to be sparse and ugly. There was a fill-in artist a few months back who was mimicking Henderson's style but without the face or anatomy issues and it made it so much more readable.
As for the writing, every character just feels like "Ryan North dressed as [character]". They don't have their own voices. Plus, I don't feel like the college setting is a good fit for what I want out of Squirrel Girl.
That said: I do really like North's characterisation of Doreen, and it works really well when she's in stuff like New Avengers. Also I like Nancy.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:16 AM

I love Ryan North, and I have loved Squirrel Girl for many years, but yeah, at launch the book wasn't doing it for me. And despite Marvel trying to push her pretty hard I haven't been compelled to go back.

Gwenpool... that's a book explicitly designed to piss a lot of people off. The whole concept must be pretty irritating... to readers who are boring losers. Because oh my god, what a book. First Gwenpool appearance I read blew my mind, I had no idea what her deal was and was not prepared for it. I assumed she was just a Deadpool/Gwen Stacy mashup taking the piss out of Spider-Gwen but that doesn't scratch the surface. So funny, so much fun.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 02:52 PM

Occupy Avengers seems a lot subtler about grappling with "real world" issues than Champions does at least.  Too bad Hawkeye's gotten all murder-y of late...him and Red Wolf do give off a whole "Lone Ranger and Tonto" vibe.

 

I do feel like they're trying to pinhole Clint Barton into that "regular guy dealing with regular problems" niche now.  Not everything has to be like that Fraction book.  The whole point of Hawkeye is that he's a regular bloke who stands among supersoldiers, mutants, and gods and holds his own.

 

I miss Hawkeye and Mockingbird.  There was a fun book. 





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