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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#1 Johnny Here

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:04 AM

Jesus Christ

Its worse than cry for justice

#2 Broadside

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:54 AM

Nah.
It's mediocre, sure, and nowhere near the level of Power Man and Iron Fist or Nighthawk, but it's not BAD. Certainly a lot better than the name suggests.

Also, apparently the author wanted to use American Eagle, but was told to use Red Wolf (because all Natives are the same, I guess?)

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#3 Johnny Here

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 11:19 AM

I like American Eagle. Glad he isnt in this.

This isnt mediocre. Its BAD.

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 07:21 PM

How so?


It's a Newcomic (apparently)

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:36 PM

im actually really enjoying Occupy Avengers...i like Red Wolf...i like where its going, its also leaps and bounds better than the regular Avengers book.

 

Also, whats wrong with Powerman and Iron Fist? that book is LOADS of fun.

 

and hell pretty much anythin that Marvels got out right now is better that than steaming crap that is Squirrel Girl.


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Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:24 PM

I think she meant in the sense of "nowhere near as good as these two"


 

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:11 PM

A lot of Marvel's pretty bad right now. Nova's the only thing I'm really digging, plus Hulk, Unworthy Thor, Hydra Cap and Ultimates.

 

I hate to say it, but Marvel needs to reset its slate. Marvel's in a bad state right now of pumping out titles that no one cares about and pushing certain titles that under-perform badly. And the reports of them overshipping comics is quite bad. My local store is giving overshipped comics away now.



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:20 AM


Squirrel Girl is absolutely at the top of the "best things Marvel has published in decades" list.

Occupy Avengers just bored me in concept. Not what I'm interested in Super Hero comic wise. But I've honestly heard mostly good things from others folks after the first couple issues at least.

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:11 AM

Squirrel Girl is absolutely at the top of the "best things Marvel has published in decades" list.

Occupy Avengers just bored me in concept. Not what I'm interested in Super Hero comic wise. But I've honestly heard mostly good things from others folks after the first couple issues at least.

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.

 

i hated the Batgirl revamp too, but I oddly love Hellcat. Ms Marvel and Gwenpool are at the top of my fave female led books...Squirrel Girl just doesn't work for me, I hate the tiny text thing, I dunno, its just not a book that's written for me...and that's ok...the best part of comics is being able to find books that speak to you and enjoy them.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:43 AM

-ZacWilliam, seriously anyone who can dislike Squirrel Girl just told me that we are not going to agree on even the basic level about what makes comics awesome.


I've said it before, but I can't enjoy USG. The art is... well, it's bad; character's faces are grotesquely distorted in a way that doesn't line up with their intended expressions, there are irritating proportion errors, and the backgrounds and colours tend to be sparse and ugly. There was a fill-in artist a few months back who was mimicking Henderson's style but without the face or anatomy issues and it made it so much more readable.
As for the writing, every character just feels like "Ryan North dressed as [character]". They don't have their own voices. Plus, I don't feel like the college setting is a good fit for what I want out of Squirrel Girl.
That said: I do really like North's characterisation of Doreen, and it works really well when she's in stuff like New Avengers. Also I like Nancy.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:16 AM

I love Ryan North, and I have loved Squirrel Girl for many years, but yeah, at launch the book wasn't doing it for me. And despite Marvel trying to push her pretty hard I haven't been compelled to go back.

Gwenpool... that's a book explicitly designed to piss a lot of people off. The whole concept must be pretty irritating... to readers who are boring losers. Because oh my god, what a book. First Gwenpool appearance I read blew my mind, I had no idea what her deal was and was not prepared for it. I assumed she was just a Deadpool/Gwen Stacy mashup taking the piss out of Spider-Gwen but that doesn't scratch the surface. So funny, so much fun.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 02:52 PM

Occupy Avengers seems a lot subtler about grappling with "real world" issues than Champions does at least.  Too bad Hawkeye's gotten all murder-y of late...him and Red Wolf do give off a whole "Lone Ranger and Tonto" vibe.

 

I do feel like they're trying to pinhole Clint Barton into that "regular guy dealing with regular problems" niche now.  Not everything has to be like that Fraction book.  The whole point of Hawkeye is that he's a regular bloke who stands among supersoldiers, mutants, and gods and holds his own.

 

I miss Hawkeye and Mockingbird.  There was a fun book. 





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