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@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:18 PM

So how long does Barricade get in this new film before he bites it?  10 minutes?  5?

 

I really like this design and hope he has a significant enough role.




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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:20 PM

 

Okay, well that's clearly Crowbar... but not called Crowbar for some reason.

Okay, well that's clearly Blackout... but called Grindor for some reason.

 

Yeah, but this guy is actually called Crowbar in the film according to various sources.


 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:22 PM

I didn't get the AOE Bee, just the Stinger version.  This Bee looks pretty nice though.



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:27 PM

While I like the packaging, the "premiere" labeling makes me a bit worried, since the only thing that feels "premiere" is the number of accessories (2x or 4x more than most deluxes). Love the nightstick, and yes, I'd like to finally get a more heroic movie Prowl Remolded from this. All previous Barricades have been too monstrous to really sell as Prowl, but this one could work well.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:32 PM

While I like the packaging, the "premiere" labeling makes me a bit worried, since the only thing that feels "premiere" is the number of accessories (2x or 4x more than most deluxes). Love the nightstick, and yes, I'd like to finally get a more heroic movie Prowl Remolded from this. All previous Barricades have been too monstrous to really sell as Prowl, but this one could work well.

"Premiere" appears to just be how they're differentiating this from the Generations line, since no lines appear to be taking a break for this one.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:45 PM

While I like the packaging, the "premiere" labeling makes me a bit worried, since the only thing that feels "premiere" is the number of accessories (2x or 4x more than most deluxes). Love the nightstick, and yes, I'd like to finally get a more heroic movie Prowl Remolded from this. All previous Barricades have been too monstrous to really sell as Prowl, but this one could work well.

 

I don't think "premiere" in this sense is meaning "premium" or a sort of "platinum" edition, but more like "debut" or "first edition".



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:45 PM

Okay, well that's clearly Crowbar... but not called Crowbar for some reason.

Okay, well that's clearly Blackout... but called Grindor for some reason.

Yeah, but this guy is actually called Crowbar in the film according to various sources.


Wait, really?

All I'd heard was "VW is named Hooligan (Crowbar's pre-prod name) and looks like they're a Dread".

Also, it's kind of ridiculous that Bumblebee is a straight redeco of the AOE figure, especially considering he's going back to his "original trilogy" robot mode design for TLK.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:49 PM

While I like the packaging, the "premiere" labeling makes me a bit worried, since the only thing that feels "premiere" is the number of accessories (2x or 4x more than most deluxes). Love the nightstick, and yes, I'd like to finally get a more heroic movie Prowl Remolded from this. All previous Barricades have been too monstrous to really sell as Prowl, but this one could work well.

 
I don't think "premiere" in this sense is meaning "premium" or a sort of "platinum" edition, but more like "debut" or "first edition".

Interesting, but are all the deluxes going to be boxed? Like, is "premiere" only the first wave, or something pre-wave 1 (they did this with the protoforms in 2007 and BB and Soundwave for ROTF, but they didn't get special packaging)? Curious

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:51 PM

I don't know that I can properly express how happy "Crowbar" being named on-screen would make me.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:58 PM

 

 

While I like the packaging, the "premiere" labeling makes me a bit worried, since the only thing that feels "premiere" is the number of accessories (2x or 4x more than most deluxes). Love the nightstick, and yes, I'd like to finally get a more heroic movie Prowl Remolded from this. All previous Barricades have been too monstrous to really sell as Prowl, but this one could work well.

 
I don't think "premiere" in this sense is meaning "premium" or a sort of "platinum" edition, but more like "debut" or "first edition".

Interesting, but are all the deluxes going to be boxed? Like, is "premiere" only the first wave, or something pre-wave 1 (they did this with the protoforms in 2007 and BB and Soundwave for ROTF, but they didn't get special packaging)? Curious

 

We don't know yet.


I don't know that I can properly express how happy "Crowbar" being named on-screen would make me.


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I assumed it just meant the reports came from someone who was familiar with the DotM toys, so I'm not exactly holding on for that one either.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:00 PM

I'd put money on "Premier Edition" simply meaning "TLK Generations". I figure it's all an attempt to avoid the situation they had with AOE where you had stuff like Power Battlers and Deluxes being nigh-identical on the shelf.

Edited by Jalaguy, 25 January 2017 - 02:08 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:06 PM

That's a really good point.  Plus, being in a box makes it look comparable to Star Wars and Marvel's Black Series figures at roughly the same price.


Edited by Spark, 25 January 2017 - 02:06 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:09 PM

Man, "Crowbar" there looks massively improved, aside from total lack of color.  But considering how crap the original one was, I suppose that wasn't hard.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:35 PM

Yeah Berserker is looks great. Better than Barricade to be honest. I'm digging how dynamic the figures seem, it's clear they have a smaller budget than the ROTF days so the transformations are still simple but they still seem much more elegant than the DOTM and AOE deluxes.



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:35 PM

Wait, why are people saying that's Crowbar at all? It's Crankcase. Am I to understand Crankcase is in TLK but called Crowbar? I mean, that makes sense, because it's not like he was called anything onscreen in DOTM, and also that guy is dead, so there can easily be a new guy who looks just like Crankcase but is named Crowbar, but...why?

 

Also: Barricade looks great, I don't understand the black panel in the middle of the hood, and the boxes are totally positioning the Deluxes as the equivalent of Marvel Legends or 6" Star Wars Black Series.

 

PS whoever that Dread is looks great, and although I can't see the guy's page anymore and therefore can't see Bee, is it impossible that Bee shows up in his old body before reformatting in this one, and the AOE redeco is just the First Bee toy?



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:44 PM

Yeah, now the kibble folds up, a new faceplate from Shapeways and Barricade will basically be a lovely new mold Generations toy. It doesn't look like a movie toy at all. I like it a lot.

 

The other two reuses from the older lines keep their old aesthetic, and are therefore awful ugly monstrosities.



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:44 PM

Wait, why are people saying that's Crowbar at all? It's Crankcase. Am I to understand Crankcase is in TLK but called Crowbar? I mean, that makes sense, because it's not like he was called anything onscreen in DOTM, and also that guy is dead, so there can easily be a new guy who looks just like Crankcase but is named Crowbar, but...why?


Oh, huh, yeah, I couldn't compare properly on my phone and for some reason I had it in my head the Crowbar was the only one with double-eyes. But yeah, it absolutely is Crankcase.

and although I can't see the guy's page anymore and therefore can't see Bee, is it impossible that Bee shows up in his old body before reformatting in this one, and the AOE redeco is just the First Bee toy?


They've painted the front end of the new TLK vehicle mode over the AOE vehicle's sculpt, Takara style, so it seems like it's supposed to represent the new design.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:51 PM

That does seem like an odd decision, but I suppose if molds from a few years ago aren't financially viable anymore, maybe it's all they could do...

 

...but in what world does Hasbro not prioritize a new mold for Bumblebee of all characters? There's a new-mold Crankcase right there!



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:55 PM

Could just be to get a Bumblebee out early, and then release a more accurate one later.




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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:56 PM

I don't have the box man, but in the instruction have 3 more figures: bumblebee, slash, and decepticon berserker(re-cast of Crankscase with new form)

 

 

...Slash?


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