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@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:26 PM)

Bingo. The big polls don't tell people what's actually happening because that doesn't sell.

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 AM)

IIRC there are good polls but data is easily manipulated so they give people what they want to hear

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 10:58 AM)

The only way to get people interested in politics is to make into reality TV. So they lie to do it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!

@  unluckiness : (18 May 2019 - 08:53 AM)

ow the edge

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 07:03 AM)

a reminder that life is an unrepentant hellscape where everyone & everything you know will eventually betray you.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:45 AM)

You know, this election is what has finally broken me of any confidence at any point of pre-polling data. I mean, it's always been sketchy, but this is just... aaaargh!

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:08 AM)

I was going to make an Auspol election thread in P&R, but the outcome so far has made me feel physically ill.

@  Gamma V : (18 May 2019 - 03:28 AM)

Haven't been here in a long time.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I have heard that, it's rather disappointing. Ah, maybe they'll just leech each others stores of "awful racist vote" and not go anywhere.

@  Trpodeca : (17 May 2019 - 11:09 PM)

I voted. Boy there are a worrying amount of parties which sound like fascists.

@  Pennpenn : (17 May 2019 - 06:55 PM)

For those in Australia, it is a federal election today. Go Vote! It's Mandatory!

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2019 - 04:19 PM)

Humor? I 'ardly know 'or!

@  wonko the sane? : (17 May 2019 - 03:51 PM)

I was intemately familiar with humour... but she just wanted to be friends...

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 May 2019 - 12:10 PM)

BZT Time out! Time out! Time ooooooouuuuuut!!!

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 08:23 AM)

Yes. Are you familiar with humor?

@  Sabrblade : (17 May 2019 - 07:50 AM)

You are familiar with The Room, yes?

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 01:14 AM)

nah, tuxedos are formal wear

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 10:38 PM)

*...while dressed in a tuxedo*

@  unluckiness : (16 May 2019 - 09:22 PM)

*casually tosses kryptonite island at Lex*

@  Sean Whitmore : (16 May 2019 - 06:21 PM)

O hai Lex.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 04:31 PM)

You're just a little chicken! Cheep cheepcheep cheeEeeeEEEeeeep!

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2019 - 04:20 PM)

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 04:14 PM)

So I guess I shouldn't try to tie in The Room.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 May 2019 - 02:29 PM)

I was just talking cheesy in a dated filmmaking sense, not mind-bogglingly god-awful.

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Well, certainly The Last Airbender is worse at being a Superman movie.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 11:31 AM)

Is that better or worse than The Last Airbender? I mean, they're both terrible, but....

@  RichardT1977 : (16 May 2019 - 09:28 AM)

And the worst Superman movie is "Dragonball: Evolution".

@  Paladin : (16 May 2019 - 08:01 AM)

the best Superman movie is "The Iron Giant." You cannot convince me otherwise.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 10:16 PM)

At least even in the first Christopher Reeve movie, when he caught Lois that first time, the background kept scrolling down for a second to indicate it wasn't a sudden stop.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 10:10 PM)

I guess you had to have been there. I did like the beginning a lot, though; the stuff on Krypton and in Smallville. The movie just got so cheesy once it got to Metropolis, though, it's kind of painful

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 May 2019 - 06:25 PM)

The performances, the cinematography, the significance of a comic book adaptation being treated like a real movie. Silly stuff like that. :)

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 05:17 PM)

Yeah, I've never really understood what people loved so much about it. Other than the score, of course, which was one of Williams' finest

@  Paladin : (15 May 2019 - 04:06 PM)

and it's not even the dumbest part in that movie.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 03:16 PM)

Flying Lois around was fine; it was all the Can You Read My Mind nonsense that ruined the scene

@  Sabrblade : (15 May 2019 - 12:08 PM)

The recent Shazam! movie had Billy bumbling his way through learning his powers. But all or most of it was genuinely funny.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:27 AM)

But yeah, in retrospect it makes me cringe the way he caught and carried the helicopter in his public debut in the first film...

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:25 AM)

(she wasn't in III long enough to be flown around)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:25 AM)

You mean the Donner movie, the Donner/Lester movie, and The Quest for Peace (for which I don't know the director)?

@  unluckiness : (15 May 2019 - 11:09 AM)

At least he didn't try to fly lois around like in the Donner movies.

@  Cybersnark : (15 May 2019 - 10:45 AM)

My favourite is still from the first episode of the 90s Superman animated series, where Clark initially tries to catch the falling plane by its tail... which snaps off in his hands because physics doesn't work that way.

@  MEDdMI : (15 May 2019 - 09:46 AM)

I think it'd be boring if a hero could use their powers perfectly right off the bat and not have any unforseen consequences (though I also don't keep up with a lot of superhero stuff, so not familiar with those scenes)

@  Dekafox : (15 May 2019 - 09:23 AM)

Overseas, Kamen Rider Gaim did something similar after Kouta(the main character) got his transformation belt. He tried to do a whole bunch of mundane things with it cause he thought it'd make him better at them and they all go horribly wrong.


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#261 Shrug

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:26 AM

I think I need to re-read this already.  I'm jonesing for another hit.



#262 Jalaguy

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:51 AM

I still need to finish Trigger Warnings onward sometime.

Of what I've read, they were very well written, but the bleak tone and the fact that so many characters are just completely awful people kinda took a toll on me.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:04 AM

Well, I started with the story right after it, and I it and the following had very likeable characters.

 

If nothing else, skip to Cultural Appropriation. It's got the most heroic cast I'd say.



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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:42 AM

Headcanon: the Predacon Squidhead was very annoyed when he had to trade in his flying vehicle form for an aquatic beast upgrade.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 01:11 PM

I still need to finish Trigger Warnings onward sometime.
Of what I've read, they were very well written, but the bleak tone and the fact that so many characters are just completely awful people kinda took a toll on me.


I've only skimmed through a few early ones, but this. I've no doubt it's all well-written and compelling, and the worldbuilding from what I gather via wiki synopses is amazing. It's just that it comes across as so... DOUR. Which, of course, comes with the whole setting and circumstances. It's like when I read through Eugenesis in that regard. It was riveting in parts but emotionally draining.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 01:31 PM

 

I still need to finish Trigger Warnings onward sometime.
Of what I've read, they were very well written, but the bleak tone and the fact that so many characters are just completely awful people kinda took a toll on me.


I've only skimmed through a few early ones, but this. I've no doubt it's all well-written and compelling, and the worldbuilding from what I gather via wiki synopses is amazing. It's just that it comes across as so... DOUR. Which, of course, comes with the whole setting and circumstances. It's like when I read through Eugenesis in that regard. It was riveting in parts but emotionally draining.

 

I'll sympathize with the dourness making it a bit of a challenge to get through, as who really wants to read something that's going to make you feel depressed? But, what made it work for me is how it was all overcome in the end for the better. I feel that suffering and struggle can ultimately make the happy ending feel more earned and satisfying if it all serves to make the characters better and stronger as people when they surpass the gloominess for a brighter and more uplifting end result.


Edited by Sabrblade, 10 January 2018 - 04:03 PM.

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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 01:56 PM

Thing is, I'm not sure I actually want a better future for any of the characters? Basically everyone on both sides, bar a handful of "hapless nobody" types and, I dunno, Hot Rod, is an awful war criminal.

I forget who it was that was advocating the extinction of the species (Fort Max? Trypticon?), but I definitely found myself rooting for that point of view.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

The characters do get more likeable as the stories go on. Ser-Ket and the main characters from Burning Bridges get more focus, Wolfang is a noble anti-hero, Scorponok is a good guy who fell in with a bad crowd...


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 02:15 PM

Also the crew of the Dinosaur. Magmatron, Guiledart, Crazybolt, and Bazooka specifically.



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Posted 10 January 2018 - 02:23 PM

Yeah, the BWN guys were nice. Intersectionality is definitely one of my favourites from what I've read.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 03:23 PM

Honestly, Intersectionality wasn't memorable at all to me. I should probably reread it.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 04:03 PM

Yeah, the BWN guys were nice. Intersectionality is definitely one of my favourites from what I've read.

Things get even better for those guys. 


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 07:07 PM

BW:U was consistently dour, sure. But that made every triumph all the sweeter. And I don't think it was a lazy kind of dourness, either, but a very real and considered dourness. They didn't set out to write a depressing story, but the reality of the situation and concepts they were dealing with made things that way.

BW:U was a story entrenched in factions, but at the same time it made the individuals within those factions complicated. Not All Megatrons are pure evil, but they all seem to do a lot of bad stuff. I don't know, sure there are quite a few characters we're not supposed to sympathise with at all, but I think the story goes to lengths to ensure we connect with them on some level. And there are just as many characters with nary a black mark to their names.

With the way LL is spinning its wheels I feel confident in the assertion that BW:U is the best TF story ever told - and, if you look past the acid-rain, it is quintessentially a Transformers story at its heart and that's special. You couldn't tell a story like this any other way. Don't skip bits, give it the time and it will reward you.

That's just some of my thoughts on the matter anyway, I feel like BW:U doesn't nearly get the readers it deserves.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:49 PM

As far as "good guys" go, Cheetor and Preditron struck me as pretty heroic all-around.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:39 AM

I still need to finish Trigger Warnings onward sometime.
Of what I've read, they were very well written, but the bleak tone and the fact that so many characters are just completely awful people kinda took a toll on me.

I've only skimmed through a few early ones, but this. I've no doubt it's all well-written and compelling, and the worldbuilding from what I gather via wiki synopses is amazing. It's just that it comes across as so... DOUR. Which, of course, comes with the whole setting and circumstances. It's like when I read through Eugenesis in that regard. It was riveting in parts but emotionally draining.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:58 PM

I think I need to re-read this already.  I'm jonesing for another hit.

 

Taking a page out of Wolfang's playbook, eh? I can respect that. :)


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:07 PM

 


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:09 PM

One more:

 


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:57 PM

Now that's pretty.

#280 Sabrblade

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:07 PM

Not sure how I feel about Quickstrike being made from Scoop, though.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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