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@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I'm genuinely amused/impressed, even if it wasn't intentional.

@  Benbot : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

That's a lot of shouting

@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Wow, Bass, your post took up the entire Shoutbox exactly without being over/under a line.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM)

The best Marvel issue is, was, and always will be Decepticon Graffiti. The Battlechargers are awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (01 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

ReGeneration was criticised for being too slow paced and drawn out way too long, yet the Decepticon leaders are introduced and dispatched just to tick the box that they made an appearance. I also preferred the single stand alone stories from the original Marvel comics instead of each issue having like four different plots running through it, which didn't make for satisfying reading IMO. If a writer is writing for a trade, don't release individual issues. I also thought the artwork was poor - before, the Marvel comics tried to have the best artwork they could at the time, whereas now they were intentionally limiting themselves to appear "retro", and it shows. The pacing was the worst though, some characters just stand around doing nothing to progress their part of the story, like Shockwave's segments. In contrast, compare any six consecutive issues from the Marvel comics and a whole lot more happens than in RG1. Furman also fell into his pattern of wasting space world building and pointless scenes when the story had to end at #100.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:10 PM)

Even then, Furman's material never really had a huge toy-push aspect to it, other than "here's new character!"

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Considering it was a wrap-up for a story whose toyline had ended anyway, I feel like it worked out well enough. I mean, the last major iteration did play an important part in things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

New comics didn't need to shill any toys at all...so there wasn't any push to do weird and different things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:03 PM)

The big problem is that stuff like the old comics were produced under the idea of shilling toys...which ultimately resulted in a lot of the weirdness people remember

@  Rycochet : (01 March 2017 - 02:01 PM)

He was hired to write an exercise in nostalgia and that's what he produced.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 01:38 PM)

Speaking of Marvel, finally read the rest of ReGeneration One, thanks to a Comixology sale. I... don't understand the hate.

@  lastmaximal : (28 February 2017 - 09:09 PM)

Works for some, not all. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trademark

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 08:57 PM)

Yeah, making it "Autobot X" seems to be their way of getting around many of those issues with overly generic terms

@  Rycochet : (28 February 2017 - 08:41 PM)

Hasbro would just call the toys Marvel's Thunderstrike or Autobot/Decepticon Thunderstrike.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 08:19 PM)

D.C. owns Bumblebee and they've made toys of her, so if a Mattel licensee can share names with a TF...

@  Telly : (28 February 2017 - 07:42 PM)

doesnt marvel own that? i know theyve got the comic character, not sure about the name for toys though. there ever been a thunderstrike figure? would it even be in the same area as a tf name?

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:38 PM)

You know, "Thunderstrike" would actually be a pretty kickass TF name! Surprised it's never been used!

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:27 PM)

Thunderstruck.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:25 PM)

How about Thunderblust? http://gatherer.wiza...iverseid=157411

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:23 PM)

Or Shockburninator, who turns into a satellite and a dragon.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Burninationblastatron

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

It's Thunderblast, but she turns into a wingaling dragon instead of "transforming" into a boat.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Thunderburninator.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:20 PM)

You need to get "blast" in there somewhere

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 11:26 AM)

THATCH-ROOF COTTAGEEEEEEEEES

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2017 - 03:06 AM)

Only if the packaging looks like a thatch-roofed cottage.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 09:27 PM)

They need to make a dragonbot named "Burninatron."

@  BlackMax : (27 February 2017 - 09:15 PM)

I find upcoming Last Knght's Steelbane sexy. A very Skyrim name for a giant robot who is also a dragon? Be still my heart.

@  MEDdMI : (27 February 2017 - 06:24 PM)

I never found most Hollywood heartthrobs sexy, even if they were around my age. I think I knew even back then that the char they play doesn't reflect how the actor really looks/behaves.

@  Rycochet : (27 February 2017 - 06:11 PM)

The only thing I've seen with Megan Fox in is the Jonah Hex movie... She was bad, but everyone and everything was bad.

@  RichardT1977 : (27 February 2017 - 05:53 PM)

Modern western culture, ladies and gentlemen...

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:50 PM)

Ha! You can't fool a true Z-block afficionado like me! That's actually an S-block viewed from behind!

@  The Doctor Who : (27 February 2017 - 04:36 PM)

*unveils a Tetris Z-Block in moody lighting* Not at aaaaall?

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:27 PM)

That would be silly.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Because I definitely wasn't. Nope. Not at all.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Am I the only straight male Nintendo fan who was never strangely aroused by the Tetris Z-block?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Her acting makes her come across as a living Pat Lee illustration.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:27 PM)

No. No, you're not.

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 01:26 PM)

And am I the only straight male Transformers fan who never found Megan Fox attractive?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:21 PM)

Especially since she's the same age as my parents.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:19 PM)

It's like I instinctually knew that by the time I watched the movies, it'd be weird since IRL she was way older than me.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:18 PM)

Am I, like, the only straight male Star Wars fan who never had a thing for Leia?

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 12:44 PM)

Call the police!

@  Paladin : (27 February 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Kubo got robbed. TWICE.

@  Lazy Garou : (27 February 2017 - 08:10 AM)

god! Thrawn is awesome.he's got super detective skills!

@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:26 PM

I was reflecting on the great line that was Beast Wars: Uprising and thought it might be useful to have a single thread to talk about topics in Uprising beyond just in a single story thread. So discuss away!

 

I will begin by proposing we have some fun by each naming our favorite Beast Wars: Uprising story, favorite character, and suggest a title and/or idea for an Uprising story.

 

Favorite story: Derailment, for its sheer length and depth in exploring the end of the Grand Uprising in 6 days.

Favorite character: Preditron, for his brand of disciplined combat and trans-faction ideals.

Story idea: Builder Privilege

 

 

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Supreme Commander Lio Convoy!


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#2 Broadside

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

I want to see a story about the conflict set up at the end of The Inexorable March called "Die Skriix Scum". (Or "Down With Skriix".)

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:44 PM

Favourite Story: Derailment. (Intersectionality probably comes as a close second though)

Favourite Character: I'm going to go with Rage, for being built up across stories and living up to her hype. A monarch who did care for her people.

Title Idea: Fifth Estate (Something about the Quints and their attempts to use the Uprising as a potential source of profit, and the Resistance's attempt to stop it. Playing off the Fourth Estate)



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

Favorite story: Head Games
Favorite Character: Preditron, who for some reason sounds like Cary Elwes in my head.
Title idea: tfw you're working on a bwu fanfiction about the stunticons. "Displacement", maybe?

Edited by Locoman, 18 January 2017 - 06:55 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:54 PM

asking me to pick a favorite is like asking me which of my children i love the most

 

 

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

bb's a girl in this universe!


 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:12 PM

Okay, seriously:
Fave story: Head Games, easily. Derailment is great, though, and Trigger Warnings/Identity Politics/Burning Bridges are also up there.
Best character: Gotta go with Buckethead. Or Bisk, but he doesn't really count.
Story idea: Affirmative Action, a gritty war story from the perspective of a Predacon soldier "in the trenches".

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:29 PM

I've already shared Compulsory Metroplexuality as the lost story of Metroplex's fate that got away, but I guess there's a few others in of me.

 

Flight Moderate - Micromaster Superion Maximus is superficially sympathetic to the plight of the protoformers, but fights against them because she believes them to be misguided and overly violent in their desire for peace.

 

Problemattaca - Unrest bubbles when Builder plans to reshape and re-engineer Cybertronian society should they be successful in regaining control of the planet are leaked, leading to the split of the MCS Forces

 

Performance Matrix - A border skirmish near Rodimus' Folly becomes much more intense when bombing unearths a long-lost fragment of the Matrix of Leadership crystal. (This never makes it into any of the stories because the only survivor was a defecting K-9, becoming Hound Prime and going into hiding immediately.)

 

(I can't wait to see Jim's reaction when he looks at this topic.)


Edited by Gearshift, 18 January 2017 - 07:42 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:49 PM

I haven't actually read all of them yet, but so far I absolutely loved, loved, loved Identity Politics. It's scary how pitch perfectly Megatron is written in that story. Head Games is pretty good too. Character wise, I don't know if there's quite been anyone who's jumped out at me as a favorite yet, but Cultural Appropriation got me pretty interested in Rampage. I wish there was some way I could read Alone Together.

 

Something, something "The Golden Discourse"

 

 


The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

bb's a girl in this universe!

 

Whoops!



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:02 PM

Story: Identity Politics

Favorite Character: Megatron or Wolfang

Idea: Non-Binary

'Slammoth' decides to appropriate the idea of the Wreckers group with former Autobot Backstop, but there's more at stake when they uncover the remains and Powermasters of...Overlord!

 

(bonus edit: the BWU Wreckers would be Slammoth/Big Convoy, Backstop, Sand Storm, Sonar, Guushar, Rotorbolt, Garboyl, and the Resistance's attempt at Targetmasters: Rav, Dillo, and Mol)


Edited by zephyrX9, 18 January 2017 - 09:08 PM.


#11 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

 

Er, Max-B volunteered as a Darksyder to step into a Beast Pod, not to drink anything.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:21 PM

I can't wait to see Jim's reaction when he looks at this topic.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:12 PM

Story idea: Affirmative Action, a gritty war story from the perspective of a Predacon soldier "in the trenches".

 

I could imagine the story involving the first ever Maximal/Predacon getting promoted to work in a Micromaster squad.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

Jim your hard work is most definitely appreciated, we don't get much BW love, but you, the club, & everybody else involved certainly brought us something thing nice! Shame the club couldn't produce much more from this universe. I fear that I will never have a Lord ID now....

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:44 AM

I just can't pick a favorite anything from this series. There's just too much good about it to pick from.

 

Honestly, Beast Wars: Uprising is everything and so much more than what Transformers: Prime and Machinima's Combiner Wars wanted to be but were incapable of being. Unlike those two, Uprising wasn't so obsessed with trying to be as epic or as hardcore as possible. It ended up being epic and hardcore in the end, but did so in a more humble way that allowed it to earn that epicness and hardcore feeling along the way. As dark, grim, and serious as Uprising could get at points, it never felt so much so that it became boring or dreadfully depressing. Even in the story's darkest moments, there was always some kind of glimmer of hope on the horizon that enabled the characters (and even the readers) to keep on going and never give up, no matter which side of the war the characters in question were fighting on.

 

And that's another thing that made this series so good. The characters were really well handled, even some of the most minor ones. A TON of characters from all walks of life in this story were able to be explored in an up close and personal manner that really gave the readers a genuine feel for each character that the readers needed to feel for (and even for some characters that the readers didn't need to feel for). Thus, when characters died, their deaths left a meaningful impact. And when characters survived, there was great joy and much relief. Very few moments (if any at all) felt like a cop-out or a cheap attempt at shock value, while many other moments resonated very well as legit moments of greatness.

 

For the first time in my 20+ years as a TF fan (1996-Present), I feel like Uprising is not only one of the few official TF works that actually feels like an actual war story, but is also the very best of those war stories. This is a war in the fullest sense, examined on a thoroughly deep and personal level from the reader's perspective. It isn't merely a recounting of turmoil and slaughterfests, nor is it a glorification of beat-em-up combat scenarios. It is instead a masterful work that explores many concepts and tackles numerous subjects both on and off the battlefield. No amount of praise can simply do this series the proper justice.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 08:25 AM

It was absolutely fantastic on so many fronts. A successful conglomeration of styles that intertwined very nicely. The characters were vibrant and believable...even the less prominent ones.

And Jim definitely goes full Sorenson between all the crazy references and the fragging Cybertronix/Renegade/Vok translated text...and it was done beautifully.

And the BWU universe is especially great because it covers several different settings that could be further fleshed out if the opportunity arises in the future (and I certainly hope it does). There's the whole G1 history, which due to timey-wimey wonkiness is sort of like the cartoon, but then can involve just about anything. The bits we know are REALLY interesting. I'm intrigued to know more about what brought us to the state that BWU is in when it starts. Then you've got a zillion different things going on during the Uprising. There's plenty more characters and perspectives that can be focused on. Then you've got everything post-Uprising and then FAR into the future with the Maladroids and Commandrons - something that DEFINITELY grabs my interest.

Point is, BWU is so multi-layered, and with Jim at the helm of character and world-building, it's a lush universe with endless possibility. It left me very thirsty for more, and not because it was lacking anything. It was just so damn good, and there's very clearly room for more without having to milk it.

Kudos to Jim and everyone involved. Transformers needs more stories like this.

All in all, it's just too hard to pick a favorite anything. There's so much to love.

Edited by IKY, 19 January 2017 - 08:30 AM.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:46 PM

Story idea: Confirmation Bias.

 

After Klementia rises to Chief Justice of the Quintessons, his social reform initiatives included that of negotiating with Earth of supporting the post-Uprising Cybertron. Humans, being naturally suspicious of anything the Quintessons do, send a crew to investigate. While Klementia's intentions are true, the commander of the human crew decides to kill him anyway. This leads to the Quintessons using their backdoors into Cybertronian technology and humanity's new technology mostly being reverse engineered to cripple the developments of the human race by activating a specialized kill switch. Humanity has to rely on their few remaining advanced non-Cybertronian originated AIs and ships, and while no one dies due to the Quintessons wanting to honor Klementia's memory , much of humanity is immobilized. Still, the unagumented humans are treated like second class citizens, leading a war to outbreak between social classes.....


 

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 08:52 AM

Another story idea:

 

Reclamation

The Allowed Zone was never popular with Cybertronians, the halving of it was even less so.

Despite the danger, the small crew of Charon (a mode locked Cybertronian spaceship) are attempting to travel out to the sterilized worlds, and try and find some fragments or remnants of Cybertronian technology that they can bring back home.

Now they've hit the metroload: Opulus. A former Jewel in Cybertron's crown, the world was where much of the Cybertronian's energy was produced. Many Builders believe that its sterilization was a deliberate attempt to starve Cybertronians - to kill them without dirtying the Human's hands.
And now Charon and his Micromaster crew (Over-Run, Legs, and a downsized Slug) must pull off the greatest heist of them all: stealing one of Opulus' shattered Energon condensers, and bringing it back to Cybertron. WIthout alerting the humans monitoring the world, who would be quick to take offence...

 

 

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 09:01 AM

A two-part story, each depicting the same events; the first part is from the perspective of Cybertronians, and the second is from the perspective of humans, or maybe another organic race.

The parts are called "Mechanical Solidarity" and "Organic Solidarity", respectively.


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 07:06 PM

Idea: Non-Binary
'Slammoth' decides to appropriate the idea of the Wreckers group with former Autobot Backstop, but there's more at stake when they uncover the remains and Powermasters of...Overlord!

Er, Backstop (one anyway) in this universe is the 2010 Cybertron redeco as a Maximal. How could he be a downsized Autobot? Hot Rod gets enough flak for downsizing to Micromaster, and Grimlock is outright considered a race traitor for converting into a Maximal.

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