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@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on


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Beast Wars: Uprising General Discussion


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:26 PM

I was reflecting on the great line that was Beast Wars: Uprising and thought it might be useful to have a single thread to talk about topics in Uprising beyond just in a single story thread. So discuss away!

 

I will begin by proposing we have some fun by each naming our favorite Beast Wars: Uprising story, favorite character, and suggest a title and/or idea for an Uprising story.

 

Favorite story: Derailment, for its sheer length and depth in exploring the end of the Grand Uprising in 6 days.

Favorite character: Preditron, for his brand of disciplined combat and trans-faction ideals.

Story idea: Builder Privilege

 

 

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Supreme Commander Lio Convoy!


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#2 Broadside

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

I want to see a story about the conflict set up at the end of The Inexorable March called "Die Skriix Scum". (Or "Down With Skriix".)

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:44 PM

Favourite Story: Derailment. (Intersectionality probably comes as a close second though)

Favourite Character: I'm going to go with Rage, for being built up across stories and living up to her hype. A monarch who did care for her people.

Title Idea: Fifth Estate (Something about the Quints and their attempts to use the Uprising as a potential source of profit, and the Resistance's attempt to stop it. Playing off the Fourth Estate)



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

Favorite story: Head Games
Favorite Character: Preditron, who for some reason sounds like Cary Elwes in my head.
Title idea: tfw you're working on a bwu fanfiction about the stunticons. "Displacement", maybe?

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:54 PM

asking me to pick a favorite is like asking me which of my children i love the most

 

 

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

bb's a girl in this universe!


 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:12 PM

Okay, seriously:
Fave story: Head Games, easily. Derailment is great, though, and Trigger Warnings/Identity Politics/Burning Bridges are also up there.
Best character: Gotta go with Buckethead. Or Bisk, but he doesn't really count.
Story idea: Affirmative Action, a gritty war story from the perspective of a Predacon soldier "in the trenches".

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:29 PM

I've already shared Compulsory Metroplexuality as the lost story of Metroplex's fate that got away, but I guess there's a few others in of me.

 

Flight Moderate - Micromaster Superion Maximus is superficially sympathetic to the plight of the protoformers, but fights against them because she believes them to be misguided and overly violent in their desire for peace.

 

Problemattaca - Unrest bubbles when Builder plans to reshape and re-engineer Cybertronian society should they be successful in regaining control of the planet are leaked, leading to the split of the MCS Forces

 

Performance Matrix - A border skirmish near Rodimus' Folly becomes much more intense when bombing unearths a long-lost fragment of the Matrix of Leadership crystal. (This never makes it into any of the stories because the only survivor was a defecting K-9, becoming Hound Prime and going into hiding immediately.)

 

(I can't wait to see Jim's reaction when he looks at this topic.)


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:49 PM

I haven't actually read all of them yet, but so far I absolutely loved, loved, loved Identity Politics. It's scary how pitch perfectly Megatron is written in that story. Head Games is pretty good too. Character wise, I don't know if there's quite been anyone who's jumped out at me as a favorite yet, but Cultural Appropriation got me pretty interested in Rampage. I wish there was some way I could read Alone Together.

 

Something, something "The Golden Discourse"

 

 


The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

bb's a girl in this universe!

 

Whoops!



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:02 PM

Story: Identity Politics

Favorite Character: Megatron or Wolfang

Idea: Non-Binary

'Slammoth' decides to appropriate the idea of the Wreckers group with former Autobot Backstop, but there's more at stake when they uncover the remains and Powermasters of...Overlord!

 

(bonus edit: the BWU Wreckers would be Slammoth/Big Convoy, Backstop, Sand Storm, Sonar, Guushar, Rotorbolt, Garboyl, and the Resistance's attempt at Targetmasters: Rav, Dillo, and Mol)


Edited by zephyrX9, 18 January 2017 - 09:08 PM.


#11 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

 

Er, Max-B volunteered as a Darksyder to step into a Beast Pod, not to drink anything.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:21 PM

I can't wait to see Jim's reaction when he looks at this topic.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:12 PM

Story idea: Affirmative Action, a gritty war story from the perspective of a Predacon soldier "in the trenches".

 

I could imagine the story involving the first ever Maximal/Predacon getting promoted to work in a Micromaster squad.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

Jim your hard work is most definitely appreciated, we don't get much BW love, but you, the club, & everybody else involved certainly brought us something thing nice! Shame the club couldn't produce much more from this universe. I fear that I will never have a Lord ID now....

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:44 AM

I just can't pick a favorite anything from this series. There's just too much good about it to pick from.

 

Honestly, Beast Wars: Uprising is everything and so much more than what Transformers: Prime and Machinima's Combiner Wars wanted to be but were incapable of being. Unlike those two, Uprising wasn't so obsessed with trying to be as epic or as hardcore as possible. It ended up being epic and hardcore in the end, but did so in a more humble way that allowed it to earn that epicness and hardcore feeling along the way. As dark, grim, and serious as Uprising could get at points, it never felt so much so that it became boring or dreadfully depressing. Even in the story's darkest moments, there was always some kind of glimmer of hope on the horizon that enabled the characters (and even the readers) to keep on going and never give up, no matter which side of the war the characters in question were fighting on.

 

And that's another thing that made this series so good. The characters were really well handled, even some of the most minor ones. A TON of characters from all walks of life in this story were able to be explored in an up close and personal manner that really gave the readers a genuine feel for each character that the readers needed to feel for (and even for some characters that the readers didn't need to feel for). Thus, when characters died, their deaths left a meaningful impact. And when characters survived, there was great joy and much relief. Very few moments (if any at all) felt like a cop-out or a cheap attempt at shock value, while many other moments resonated very well as legit moments of greatness.

 

For the first time in my 20+ years as a TF fan (1996-Present), I feel like Uprising is not only one of the few official TF works that actually feels like an actual war story, but is also the very best of those war stories. This is a war in the fullest sense, examined on a thoroughly deep and personal level from the reader's perspective. It isn't merely a recounting of turmoil and slaughterfests, nor is it a glorification of beat-em-up combat scenarios. It is instead a masterful work that explores many concepts and tackles numerous subjects both on and off the battlefield. No amount of praise can simply do this series the proper justice.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 08:25 AM

It was absolutely fantastic on so many fronts. A successful conglomeration of styles that intertwined very nicely. The characters were vibrant and believable...even the less prominent ones.

And Jim definitely goes full Sorenson between all the crazy references and the fragging Cybertronix/Renegade/Vok translated text...and it was done beautifully.

And the BWU universe is especially great because it covers several different settings that could be further fleshed out if the opportunity arises in the future (and I certainly hope it does). There's the whole G1 history, which due to timey-wimey wonkiness is sort of like the cartoon, but then can involve just about anything. The bits we know are REALLY interesting. I'm intrigued to know more about what brought us to the state that BWU is in when it starts. Then you've got a zillion different things going on during the Uprising. There's plenty more characters and perspectives that can be focused on. Then you've got everything post-Uprising and then FAR into the future with the Maladroids and Commandrons - something that DEFINITELY grabs my interest.

Point is, BWU is so multi-layered, and with Jim at the helm of character and world-building, it's a lush universe with endless possibility. It left me very thirsty for more, and not because it was lacking anything. It was just so damn good, and there's very clearly room for more without having to milk it.

Kudos to Jim and everyone involved. Transformers needs more stories like this.

All in all, it's just too hard to pick a favorite anything. There's so much to love.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:46 PM

Story idea: Confirmation Bias.

 

After Klementia rises to Chief Justice of the Quintessons, his social reform initiatives included that of negotiating with Earth of supporting the post-Uprising Cybertron. Humans, being naturally suspicious of anything the Quintessons do, send a crew to investigate. While Klementia's intentions are true, the commander of the human crew decides to kill him anyway. This leads to the Quintessons using their backdoors into Cybertronian technology and humanity's new technology mostly being reverse engineered to cripple the developments of the human race by activating a specialized kill switch. Humanity has to rely on their few remaining advanced non-Cybertronian originated AIs and ships, and while no one dies due to the Quintessons wanting to honor Klementia's memory , much of humanity is immobilized. Still, the unagumented humans are treated like second class citizens, leading a war to outbreak between social classes.....


 

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 08:52 AM

Another story idea:

 

Reclamation

The Allowed Zone was never popular with Cybertronians, the halving of it was even less so.

Despite the danger, the small crew of Charon (a mode locked Cybertronian spaceship) are attempting to travel out to the sterilized worlds, and try and find some fragments or remnants of Cybertronian technology that they can bring back home.

Now they've hit the metroload: Opulus. A former Jewel in Cybertron's crown, the world was where much of the Cybertronian's energy was produced. Many Builders believe that its sterilization was a deliberate attempt to starve Cybertronians - to kill them without dirtying the Human's hands.
And now Charon and his Micromaster crew (Over-Run, Legs, and a downsized Slug) must pull off the greatest heist of them all: stealing one of Opulus' shattered Energon condensers, and bringing it back to Cybertron. WIthout alerting the humans monitoring the world, who would be quick to take offence...

 

 

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 09:01 AM

A two-part story, each depicting the same events; the first part is from the perspective of Cybertronians, and the second is from the perspective of humans, or maybe another organic race.

The parts are called "Mechanical Solidarity" and "Organic Solidarity", respectively.


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 07:06 PM

Idea: Non-Binary
'Slammoth' decides to appropriate the idea of the Wreckers group with former Autobot Backstop, but there's more at stake when they uncover the remains and Powermasters of...Overlord!

Er, Backstop (one anyway) in this universe is the 2010 Cybertron redeco as a Maximal. How could he be a downsized Autobot? Hot Rod gets enough flak for downsizing to Micromaster, and Grimlock is outright considered a race traitor for converting into a Maximal.

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