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@  Paladin : (25 June 2017 - 06:57 AM)

nobody here has moved past Wave 1. maybe if they hadn't crammed it with repaints....

@  Noideaforaname : (25 June 2017 - 06:46 AM)

Nitro's gonna be a pain in the butt to find, isn't he?

@  Pennpenn : (25 June 2017 - 03:51 AM)

Actually, on the subject of TLK toys, the voyager Nitro Zues or whatver looks pretty good. If I see it cheap I might give it to the Thunderwing head.

@  Pennpenn : (24 June 2017 - 09:58 PM)

Been playing a bit of Saints Row 4 and honestly the Blast Blast is hilariously overpowered.

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 05:28 PM)

And a better headsculpt.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 05:23 PM)

It actually has half decent gimmicks too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 04:03 PM)

It's still crap but at least it takes up less space.

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 10:31 AM)

I'd rather have Armada Sideswipe than Alternator Sideswipe.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 June 2017 - 09:50 AM)

What he's really doing is buying all the sideswipe, so that after the apocolypse.. He'll have an army to take ove the world!

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 09:00 AM)

We could be taking this the wrong way. What if this person means to sacrifice their own money to prevent Armada Sideswipes from falling into the hands of those who don't know better?

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 06:26 AM)

People say silly things online all the time, usually followed by a smilie or a wink. Take away the context and they go from being a joke to absurd hyperbole.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 06:07 AM)

But that would miss the entire point of hyperbole.

@  Pennpenn : (24 June 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Well that's a stupid attitude from someone who would waste a lot of money. I mean, they should just... not buy movie toys?

@  Bass X0 : (24 June 2017 - 04:52 AM)

Most insane thing I read of the day: "I would rather buy 100 Armada Sideswipes and PRiD Airachnids than buy any Bayformers crap"

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:10 PM)

His dialogue is full of allusions to his infamous lookalike, though sometimes as subversions. Oh, and sometimes he sings Karaoke. Check his rendition of "My Way", it's on Youtube.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:09 PM)

The entire idea behind the character is that he looks and talks like Hitler, but is actually a good guy. Maybe with a dickish attitude, but he's not the villain.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Alfons Hatler is a supporting character from a German Edgar Wallace parody movie and its sequel.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:07 PM)

I'd like to remind everyone that Alfons Hatler exists, which is all sorts of awesome.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 05:41 PM)

See, you say that and you know there's new a bubsy game coming. Don't make us keep re-baselining our horror reactions.

@  Sean Whitmore : (23 June 2017 - 03:31 PM)

Epilogue is the worst thing to happen to mankind. And I'm including, like, all the wars and stuff.

@  Evac : (23 June 2017 - 02:11 PM)

... Did Linkara cover that one?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 01:50 PM)

the comics where Barbara quit being Batgirl after she was beaten into a miscarriage.

@  Boomhauer : (23 June 2017 - 01:20 PM)

His choice to be Batman had more punch when he was a completely normal guy met with the same dillema instead of the DNA garbage that muddies the message for no other reason than to give Old Bruce another ass-kiss before the show is over. It's a boring episode whose entire concept is repeating things already known and spark Squawkbox arguments.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 01:11 PM)

But he still chose to be batman. Not only did he chose to be batman, he did it better.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I have to agree.. Part of the problem with Epilogue is it takes away from "Terry CHOSE to be batman" and changed it a bit to "Terry was designed to be batman."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Do you mean the DCAU continuity comics or Future's End?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 11:36 AM)

can we all at least agree it's a better ending for Batman Beyond than the comics?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 10:52 AM)

There was no evidence of it to support it in the show, and generally using someone to MAKE a batman is a jerkish thing to do.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:37 AM)

why does it matter?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

I think the problem with Epilogue was making Terry effectivly Batman's son.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:24 AM)

what's your problem with it?

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 10:02 AM)

Epilogue give a great end to Batman Beyond and even has a Mask of the Phantasm character

@  MrBlud : (23 June 2017 - 09:55 AM)

I don't post in the Shoutbox often, but when I do, it's to confirm "Epilogue" is garbage.

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 08:43 AM)

even "Epilogue" ? (braces for that argument again)

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Its a really great show.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Justice League unlimited

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2017 - 08:14 AM)

Sprinkles or nothing!

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2017 - 07:06 AM)

>_< 3 hrs, $5,628 to go for the Two Scoops Kickstarter http://kck.st/2qgIkCd

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 06:16 AM)

Yeah, miles is only used when accuracy doesn't actually matter, or we're dealing with americans.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 03:55 AM)

We even use "miles" in similar contexts in German even though we use kilometers for actual measurements.

@  The Doctor Who : (23 June 2017 - 02:40 AM)

Makes sense, really. Colloquialisms exist in their own weird little universe where terminology can persist after it's no longer relevant otherwise.

@  abates : (23 June 2017 - 01:17 AM)

We also measure car milage in kilometres but still call it milage.

@  Bass X0 : (22 June 2017 - 05:47 PM)

No. We still say miles. Kilometers is only really used for actual specific distances whereas miles being used in a common phrase is still miles.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 June 2017 - 04:59 PM)

People from outside the U.S.: as we are all English-proficient here, do you ever use the phrase "I saw it coming from miles away.", or do you say "kilometers" instead?

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:06 PM)

Wow, that was supposed to :shout" hours ago...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:05 PM)

Indeed. Especially on opening week. We're talking avg, 5-8%. It's more at your discount/sub-run houses.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

AMC knows it, freakin $7 for a regular drink

@  Paladin : (22 June 2017 - 08:22 AM)

and if you want to support your theaters, buy more concessions. because they get SHIT from the ticket sales...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:15 AM)

So, we charged an extra $1 per. F'em

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:13 AM)

First, they threatened to stop sending us digital because we weren't upcharging for it (back when we were still "mixed" format). Then they threatened to stop sendingus 3D because we didn't upcharge for those either initially.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:26 PM

I was reflecting on the great line that was Beast Wars: Uprising and thought it might be useful to have a single thread to talk about topics in Uprising beyond just in a single story thread. So discuss away!

 

I will begin by proposing we have some fun by each naming our favorite Beast Wars: Uprising story, favorite character, and suggest a title and/or idea for an Uprising story.

 

Favorite story: Derailment, for its sheer length and depth in exploring the end of the Grand Uprising in 6 days.

Favorite character: Preditron, for his brand of disciplined combat and trans-faction ideals.

Story idea: Builder Privilege

 

 

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Supreme Commander Lio Convoy!


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

I want to see a story about the conflict set up at the end of The Inexorable March called "Die Skriix Scum". (Or "Down With Skriix".)

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:44 PM

Favourite Story: Derailment. (Intersectionality probably comes as a close second though)

Favourite Character: I'm going to go with Rage, for being built up across stories and living up to her hype. A monarch who did care for her people.

Title Idea: Fifth Estate (Something about the Quints and their attempts to use the Uprising as a potential source of profit, and the Resistance's attempt to stop it. Playing off the Fourth Estate)



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

Favorite story: Head Games
Favorite Character: Preditron, who for some reason sounds like Cary Elwes in my head.
Title idea: tfw you're working on a bwu fanfiction about the stunticons. "Displacement", maybe?

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"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:54 PM

asking me to pick a favorite is like asking me which of my children i love the most

 

 

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

bb's a girl in this universe!


 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:12 PM

Okay, seriously:
Fave story: Head Games, easily. Derailment is great, though, and Trigger Warnings/Identity Politics/Burning Bridges are also up there.
Best character: Gotta go with Buckethead. Or Bisk, but he doesn't really count.
Story idea: Affirmative Action, a gritty war story from the perspective of a Predacon soldier "in the trenches".

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:29 PM

I've already shared Compulsory Metroplexuality as the lost story of Metroplex's fate that got away, but I guess there's a few others in of me.

 

Flight Moderate - Micromaster Superion Maximus is superficially sympathetic to the plight of the protoformers, but fights against them because she believes them to be misguided and overly violent in their desire for peace.

 

Problemattaca - Unrest bubbles when Builder plans to reshape and re-engineer Cybertronian society should they be successful in regaining control of the planet are leaked, leading to the split of the MCS Forces

 

Performance Matrix - A border skirmish near Rodimus' Folly becomes much more intense when bombing unearths a long-lost fragment of the Matrix of Leadership crystal. (This never makes it into any of the stories because the only survivor was a defecting K-9, becoming Hound Prime and going into hiding immediately.)

 

(I can't wait to see Jim's reaction when he looks at this topic.)


Edited by Gearshift, 18 January 2017 - 07:42 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:49 PM

I haven't actually read all of them yet, but so far I absolutely loved, loved, loved Identity Politics. It's scary how pitch perfectly Megatron is written in that story. Head Games is pretty good too. Character wise, I don't know if there's quite been anyone who's jumped out at me as a favorite yet, but Cultural Appropriation got me pretty interested in Rampage. I wish there was some way I could read Alone Together.

 

Something, something "The Golden Discourse"

 

 


The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

bb's a girl in this universe!

 

Whoops!



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:02 PM

Story: Identity Politics

Favorite Character: Megatron or Wolfang

Idea: Non-Binary

'Slammoth' decides to appropriate the idea of the Wreckers group with former Autobot Backstop, but there's more at stake when they uncover the remains and Powermasters of...Overlord!

 

(bonus edit: the BWU Wreckers would be Slammoth/Big Convoy, Backstop, Sand Storm, Sonar, Guushar, Rotorbolt, Garboyl, and the Resistance's attempt at Targetmasters: Rav, Dillo, and Mol)


Edited by zephyrX9, 18 January 2017 - 09:08 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

The story of how Max B was coerced into drinking something that was supposed to give him a beast mode. Take A Fragging Sip, BB.

 

Er, Max-B volunteered as a Darksyder to step into a Beast Pod, not to drink anything.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:21 PM

I can't wait to see Jim's reaction when he looks at this topic.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:12 PM

Story idea: Affirmative Action, a gritty war story from the perspective of a Predacon soldier "in the trenches".

 

I could imagine the story involving the first ever Maximal/Predacon getting promoted to work in a Micromaster squad.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

Jim your hard work is most definitely appreciated, we don't get much BW love, but you, the club, & everybody else involved certainly brought us something thing nice! Shame the club couldn't produce much more from this universe. I fear that I will never have a Lord ID now....

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:44 AM

I just can't pick a favorite anything from this series. There's just too much good about it to pick from.

 

Honestly, Beast Wars: Uprising is everything and so much more than what Transformers: Prime and Machinima's Combiner Wars wanted to be but were incapable of being. Unlike those two, Uprising wasn't so obsessed with trying to be as epic or as hardcore as possible. It ended up being epic and hardcore in the end, but did so in a more humble way that allowed it to earn that epicness and hardcore feeling along the way. As dark, grim, and serious as Uprising could get at points, it never felt so much so that it became boring or dreadfully depressing. Even in the story's darkest moments, there was always some kind of glimmer of hope on the horizon that enabled the characters (and even the readers) to keep on going and never give up, no matter which side of the war the characters in question were fighting on.

 

And that's another thing that made this series so good. The characters were really well handled, even some of the most minor ones. A TON of characters from all walks of life in this story were able to be explored in an up close and personal manner that really gave the readers a genuine feel for each character that the readers needed to feel for (and even for some characters that the readers didn't need to feel for). Thus, when characters died, their deaths left a meaningful impact. And when characters survived, there was great joy and much relief. Very few moments (if any at all) felt like a cop-out or a cheap attempt at shock value, while many other moments resonated very well as legit moments of greatness.

 

For the first time in my 20+ years as a TF fan (1996-Present), I feel like Uprising is not only one of the few official TF works that actually feels like an actual war story, but is also the very best of those war stories. This is a war in the fullest sense, examined on a thoroughly deep and personal level from the reader's perspective. It isn't merely a recounting of turmoil and slaughterfests, nor is it a glorification of beat-em-up combat scenarios. It is instead a masterful work that explores many concepts and tackles numerous subjects both on and off the battlefield. No amount of praise can simply do this series the proper justice.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 08:25 AM

It was absolutely fantastic on so many fronts. A successful conglomeration of styles that intertwined very nicely. The characters were vibrant and believable...even the less prominent ones.

And Jim definitely goes full Sorenson between all the crazy references and the fragging Cybertronix/Renegade/Vok translated text...and it was done beautifully.

And the BWU universe is especially great because it covers several different settings that could be further fleshed out if the opportunity arises in the future (and I certainly hope it does). There's the whole G1 history, which due to timey-wimey wonkiness is sort of like the cartoon, but then can involve just about anything. The bits we know are REALLY interesting. I'm intrigued to know more about what brought us to the state that BWU is in when it starts. Then you've got a zillion different things going on during the Uprising. There's plenty more characters and perspectives that can be focused on. Then you've got everything post-Uprising and then FAR into the future with the Maladroids and Commandrons - something that DEFINITELY grabs my interest.

Point is, BWU is so multi-layered, and with Jim at the helm of character and world-building, it's a lush universe with endless possibility. It left me very thirsty for more, and not because it was lacking anything. It was just so damn good, and there's very clearly room for more without having to milk it.

Kudos to Jim and everyone involved. Transformers needs more stories like this.

All in all, it's just too hard to pick a favorite anything. There's so much to love.

Edited by IKY, 19 January 2017 - 08:30 AM.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:46 PM

Story idea: Confirmation Bias.

 

After Klementia rises to Chief Justice of the Quintessons, his social reform initiatives included that of negotiating with Earth of supporting the post-Uprising Cybertron. Humans, being naturally suspicious of anything the Quintessons do, send a crew to investigate. While Klementia's intentions are true, the commander of the human crew decides to kill him anyway. This leads to the Quintessons using their backdoors into Cybertronian technology and humanity's new technology mostly being reverse engineered to cripple the developments of the human race by activating a specialized kill switch. Humanity has to rely on their few remaining advanced non-Cybertronian originated AIs and ships, and while no one dies due to the Quintessons wanting to honor Klementia's memory , much of humanity is immobilized. Still, the unagumented humans are treated like second class citizens, leading a war to outbreak between social classes.....


 

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 08:52 AM

Another story idea:

 

Reclamation

The Allowed Zone was never popular with Cybertronians, the halving of it was even less so.

Despite the danger, the small crew of Charon (a mode locked Cybertronian spaceship) are attempting to travel out to the sterilized worlds, and try and find some fragments or remnants of Cybertronian technology that they can bring back home.

Now they've hit the metroload: Opulus. A former Jewel in Cybertron's crown, the world was where much of the Cybertronian's energy was produced. Many Builders believe that its sterilization was a deliberate attempt to starve Cybertronians - to kill them without dirtying the Human's hands.
And now Charon and his Micromaster crew (Over-Run, Legs, and a downsized Slug) must pull off the greatest heist of them all: stealing one of Opulus' shattered Energon condensers, and bringing it back to Cybertron. WIthout alerting the humans monitoring the world, who would be quick to take offence...

 

 

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 09:01 AM

A two-part story, each depicting the same events; the first part is from the perspective of Cybertronians, and the second is from the perspective of humans, or maybe another organic race.

The parts are called "Mechanical Solidarity" and "Organic Solidarity", respectively.


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 07:06 PM

Idea: Non-Binary
'Slammoth' decides to appropriate the idea of the Wreckers group with former Autobot Backstop, but there's more at stake when they uncover the remains and Powermasters of...Overlord!

Er, Backstop (one anyway) in this universe is the 2010 Cybertron redeco as a Maximal. How could he be a downsized Autobot? Hot Rod gets enough flak for downsizing to Micromaster, and Grimlock is outright considered a race traitor for converting into a Maximal.

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