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@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 05:28 PM)

And a better headsculpt.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 05:23 PM)

It actually has half decent gimmicks too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 04:03 PM)

It's still crap but at least it takes up less space.

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 10:31 AM)

I'd rather have Armada Sideswipe than Alternator Sideswipe.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 June 2017 - 09:50 AM)

What he's really doing is buying all the sideswipe, so that after the apocolypse.. He'll have an army to take ove the world!

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 09:00 AM)

We could be taking this the wrong way. What if this person means to sacrifice their own money to prevent Armada Sideswipes from falling into the hands of those who don't know better?

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 06:26 AM)

People say silly things online all the time, usually followed by a smilie or a wink. Take away the context and they go from being a joke to absurd hyperbole.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 06:07 AM)

But that would miss the entire point of hyperbole.

@  Pennpenn : (24 June 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Well that's a stupid attitude from someone who would waste a lot of money. I mean, they should just... not buy movie toys?

@  Bass X0 : (24 June 2017 - 04:52 AM)

Most insane thing I read of the day: "I would rather buy 100 Armada Sideswipes and PRiD Airachnids than buy any Bayformers crap"

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:10 PM)

His dialogue is full of allusions to his infamous lookalike, though sometimes as subversions. Oh, and sometimes he sings Karaoke. Check his rendition of "My Way", it's on Youtube.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:09 PM)

The entire idea behind the character is that he looks and talks like Hitler, but is actually a good guy. Maybe with a dickish attitude, but he's not the villain.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Alfons Hatler is a supporting character from a German Edgar Wallace parody movie and its sequel.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:07 PM)

I'd like to remind everyone that Alfons Hatler exists, which is all sorts of awesome.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 05:41 PM)

See, you say that and you know there's new a bubsy game coming. Don't make us keep re-baselining our horror reactions.

@  Sean Whitmore : (23 June 2017 - 03:31 PM)

Epilogue is the worst thing to happen to mankind. And I'm including, like, all the wars and stuff.

@  Evac : (23 June 2017 - 02:11 PM)

... Did Linkara cover that one?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 01:50 PM)

the comics where Barbara quit being Batgirl after she was beaten into a miscarriage.

@  Boomhauer : (23 June 2017 - 01:20 PM)

His choice to be Batman had more punch when he was a completely normal guy met with the same dillema instead of the DNA garbage that muddies the message for no other reason than to give Old Bruce another ass-kiss before the show is over. It's a boring episode whose entire concept is repeating things already known and spark Squawkbox arguments.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 01:11 PM)

But he still chose to be batman. Not only did he chose to be batman, he did it better.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I have to agree.. Part of the problem with Epilogue is it takes away from "Terry CHOSE to be batman" and changed it a bit to "Terry was designed to be batman."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Do you mean the DCAU continuity comics or Future's End?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 11:36 AM)

can we all at least agree it's a better ending for Batman Beyond than the comics?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 10:52 AM)

There was no evidence of it to support it in the show, and generally using someone to MAKE a batman is a jerkish thing to do.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:37 AM)

why does it matter?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

I think the problem with Epilogue was making Terry effectivly Batman's son.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:24 AM)

what's your problem with it?

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 10:02 AM)

Epilogue give a great end to Batman Beyond and even has a Mask of the Phantasm character

@  MrBlud : (23 June 2017 - 09:55 AM)

I don't post in the Shoutbox often, but when I do, it's to confirm "Epilogue" is garbage.

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 08:43 AM)

even "Epilogue" ? (braces for that argument again)

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Its a really great show.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Justice League unlimited

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2017 - 08:14 AM)

Sprinkles or nothing!

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2017 - 07:06 AM)

>_< 3 hrs, $5,628 to go for the Two Scoops Kickstarter http://kck.st/2qgIkCd

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 06:16 AM)

Yeah, miles is only used when accuracy doesn't actually matter, or we're dealing with americans.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 03:55 AM)

We even use "miles" in similar contexts in German even though we use kilometers for actual measurements.

@  The Doctor Who : (23 June 2017 - 02:40 AM)

Makes sense, really. Colloquialisms exist in their own weird little universe where terminology can persist after it's no longer relevant otherwise.

@  abates : (23 June 2017 - 01:17 AM)

We also measure car milage in kilometres but still call it milage.

@  Bass X0 : (22 June 2017 - 05:47 PM)

No. We still say miles. Kilometers is only really used for actual specific distances whereas miles being used in a common phrase is still miles.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 June 2017 - 04:59 PM)

People from outside the U.S.: as we are all English-proficient here, do you ever use the phrase "I saw it coming from miles away.", or do you say "kilometers" instead?

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:06 PM)

Wow, that was supposed to :shout" hours ago...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:05 PM)

Indeed. Especially on opening week. We're talking avg, 5-8%. It's more at your discount/sub-run houses.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

AMC knows it, freakin $7 for a regular drink

@  Paladin : (22 June 2017 - 08:22 AM)

and if you want to support your theaters, buy more concessions. because they get SHIT from the ticket sales...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:15 AM)

So, we charged an extra $1 per. F'em

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:13 AM)

First, they threatened to stop sending us digital because we weren't upcharging for it (back when we were still "mixed" format). Then they threatened to stop sendingus 3D because we didn't upcharge for those either initially.

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:12 AM)

Can't blame the theater totally for those ticket prices. The studios have a say in them as well.

@  Noideaforaname : (22 June 2017 - 12:00 AM)

Charge 'em for the lice! Extra for the mice! Two percent for looking in the mirror twice!

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 June 2017 - 11:45 PM)

Even here in Canada where price gouging is commonplace, IMAX 3-D is still $19.50

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 June 2017 - 11:44 PM)

$27 a ticket? That's ludicrous


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Rarity: Does It Make You Like Toys More? And What Do You Have That Is "Rare"?


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#41 Dracula

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:47 PM

I have Transmetal Tigatron's gun barrels and tail in a bag of parts in my room somewhere. I still have no idea where the actual figure disappeared to...


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

I will say that on some figures, my desire for them is entirely disconnected from their rarity.  I will freaking shiv someone to get my hands on particular Euro G1/G2 stuff just because I like it that much and have particularly fond memories of living in Europe, regardless of rarity.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

There are several reasons I might like a toy.  Innovative transformation, nice deco, beloved character, or just a really solid mold.  I don't think rarity really plays much of a part.

 

This is pretty much how I feel - rarity doesn't really affect me one way or another; and if it does, its likely in that negative "I'm worried about breaking it" way that many have mentioned.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:13 PM

I'm annoyed by artificially rare items. I find intentionally limiting numbers just to drive up the price is obnoxious.

The good news is most of those aren't things I care about. Where it bugs me most is when something that could be considered an important collection piece is limited just for the sake of it. If people want to spend extra money on gold paint though, more power to 'em.

Things that are rare because they're tail-enders or whatever though isn't really intentional. I'm not going to chase them down unless it's something I really dig.

Consequently, there's very little I've been willing to pay the mark up for. :D
 
 
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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

  I've never made rarity the focus of my collecting habits, so I'd have to say that it matters very little to me.  However, because I have been in this fandom for decades, I have acquired certain Transformers over the years that would be considered rare.  

 

  The Arcee model kit, SBHM Galvatron and X-9 Ravage are a few off the top of my head.  I love those three for different reasons, but mainly it's because there are stories and memories attached to them.

 

  Perhaps even more near and dear to me though, are the beat-up G1 Wheeljack, the broken G1 Prowl, and the floppy mess of a G1 Megatron that I own from childhood.  Definitely not rare, certainly not worth much, but man, do I love seeing those few proudly displayed in my collection. 

 

Edit:  Nice thread, Robowang.  I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses.  :thumbsup


Edited by Sciflyer, 18 January 2017 - 08:40 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

My childhood holy grail was a notorious shelf-warmer, so no.

 

 

The 'rarest' things I have are figures like CW Sky Lynx, Wave 2(?) of the Kreons (Lugnut and pals), that red Blot from Prime... stuff I got for retail or less, but also were really only around for a week or two. But of course rarity wasn't a thought with them.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 PM

 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?


Yeah. My ultimate collecting goal is to have a complete US G1 set, but a few items are excluded from the list since I'd be terrified to touch them.

I got a MISB Skyquake in 2001 for $40, because the dealer had no idea what he had. My whole collection went into storage in 2002, then I finally unpacked and put them all on display last year. Pyro and TM Megatron didn't survive being unwrapped and directly handled. Skyquake made scary crackling noises just from me straightening his arms. He's safe on the shelf now and I guess I'm never touching him again. Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

Rarity doesn't make me want a figure any more initially, but if it is rare and I already own it I think it makes me appreciate it more.

Probably helps I don't really have many super rare, cost-more-than-a-hundred-bucks-to-replace figures.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:00 PM

I don't have a taste for the super-rare, although I deeply desire X-9 Ravage and TM3 Megatron.

 

I do like to have "centerpieces" for displays and such that are a little something different than stuff you could stumble over on a shelf here. Like an MP, a superior Takara version, an exclusive, sometimes even a 3P or just a little something trickier to find like Sky Lynx.

But I don't ego trip over it, it's just my own thing.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:23 PM

Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?


Of course it counts as owning it, but for me, in that case, owning the figure would be the equivalent of owning a book with a picture of the figure. They would bring me the same value.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:35 AM

For me it'd be my hardcopies of Robot Heroes Prowl and Ironhhide (obviously Prowl being the more desirable as he was unreleased) plus some various test shots. Favourite rare stuff that was mass produced is actually some of the statues and busts, like the Prowl bust by DST, that thing is super nice, and only 250, off the top of my head, made, still in the lower end of the rarity index. Rarest thing I WANT is Randy's blue Classics Bumblebee. Oh, how I covet thee. *sighs*


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:43 AM

I guess I DO appreciate stuff I have more when it's rare, especially if I managed to get it at a price that doesn't reflect its rarity (I totally get Engledogg's point there). But that's more because of the "wow, I can't believe I got this" than anything -- the rarity translates into "difficult to track down and get", and that's it. Id prefer for nothing to be super rare, of course, because the stuff I like tends to be annoyingly tough to get that way :) United Stepper? (shrug) I like Stepper. Ikard? Cool color scheme on a squid. Movie Fracture? Great mold, female character/well done Crasher nod, looks badass. GF DVD Exillion? I love the Cyb/GF line, and I might buy a petrified taco if it were in Hot Rod colors. I'm happy to have them, but the rarity is mostly just part of their story.


Even the rarities I say I'm happy to have are down to the perverse fun of putting the effort into tracking them down -- it's technically rare, but not exactly a grail for anyone but me. These Japanese store exclusive Superlink Energon Weapons (thanks for the help on a fee, Buster Darkwings) aren't going to set the secondary market or collecting world on fire, but the hunt is part of thir story and that's nice. (If anyone can help with the others, I'd love that.)

It's never occurred to me to seek things out BECAUSE they're rare. Some people I've actually met want to have a 1/500 Lucky Draw Gold Chrome Whatever because of the 1/500, which goes right over my head. It's never been about being able to say I have something only 499 other people have. I won't even get into the "this is rare and expensive so it's a collection centerpiece of mine I will brag about", because "this is a symbol of how much more disposable income I have than you" is a good color on nobody.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:29 AM

Ehn.

 

Like... some of my favorite things in the collection are toys with a story behind them, which doesn't so much translate to "rare" as... "obscure". Aveo Swerve, for example. Or the Visa card Microns. All of which commanded ridicu-prices at one point and now... not so much. I'm delighted to have the Kreon skiing Optimus (thanks again, Walky!), which near as I can tell is pretty f***ing rare, but I dig him because he's a silly skiing Optimus Prime Kreon.

 

I've sold lots of rare stuff. I used to own Road Fire. Sold him. Realized how little I cared about him.

 

 

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:57 AM

I starting writing a post with a spice analogy that made me look at the Tako Tank with hungry eyes, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I consider rarity more of a negative.

I mean, I love the Tako Tank, the fact that it was rare only made it harder to own. If the Tako Tank was as common as say Longrack I would love it all the same because it's an awesome toy. I'll still brag that I own a Tako Tank, because it's fun and give me an excuse to talk about a cool toy, but really I wish everyone had the chance to own one.

Oh the other end, I've jumped through hoops to get plenty of rare or hard to find toys over the years only to realize they are crappy toys and not worth the time, money, or effort. The rarity actually makes me hate these toys more. I could rant about a few toys that aren't really that bad, but I hate because of all the time and effort it took to get them only to be disappointed.

Then there's rare toys that everyone knows is crap, but are pricy because of their rarity (looking at you Mutants Soundwave).

So yeah, I see rarity more as a negative than a positive. Now I'm going to go have the Tako Tank fight Metals Megatron and X-9 Ravage. Like I said, I'm not above bragging :p

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:03 AM

I will say that "which one is rare/expensive" is like the only topic of conversation regarding Transformers that parents or in-laws or basically any visiting non-fan adult understands.  I can say, "this one means something to me because of a cartoon or comic book," and they'll shrug or their eyes will glaze over.  But say, "Oh, this particular Transformer is the third most expensive thing I own, after my house and my car," then finally they have something they care about at all.  So, um, thank you, rare Transformers toys, for filling fifteen seconds of awkward silence between me and my father-in-law that one time.  



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:10 AM

It factors into it somewhat but I largely want what I want.

I want the different colored Lucky Draw Micron Legend stuff because I like Armada. The only difference between an $80 Shining Unicron and a $3000 one is that I could actually afford the former.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 06:49 AM

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Sorry I'm late Luke. 

 

and yeah She doesn't mean that much to me... Worst pony isn't a good enough reason for me to want something in my collection.

 

 


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:31 AM

Rarest thing I own is SHBM Lava Galvatron, only 100 exist; however, it is not particularly hard to acquire, since as a single-color vinyl thingie people tend to get bored and sell them not infrequently. The toughest to acquire piece I own is without a doubt Dinogeist, from Brave Exkaiser.

I missed this comment before, but I think it's funny that we're on flip sides of the same series.  Far and away, two of the rarest things I've got is a MIB Dragonkaiser and non-reissue MIB Exkaiser from that same series.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

I don't honestly even know what the rarest Transformers thing I own is, which should basically convey that I don't really own anything rare.



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:52 PM

When you're down in south Florida, everything beyond the third or fourth wave of a given toyline is usually rare.

 

One of my biggest "I'M SUCH AN IDIOT" moments was when I passed on a T30 Gears I found in my local Wal-Mart, not realizing it was a rare tail-ender.


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