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@  2017 : (17 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

It scared me!

@  Kalidor : (17 October 2017 - 05:42 PM)

Yes - here is more information - https://www.battleforthenet.com/

@  Darth Gonzo : (17 October 2017 - 05:36 PM)

Hello?

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:39 PM)

Yeah, it's the Allspark.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:35 PM)

Okay, so it is the allspark doing it, and not some piece of malware I need to run a system scan over, that's basically all I wanted to know.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:34 PM)

If, say, Hillary or Bernie was president, we'd have a chance, but with the current administration... We're pretty much hugged.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

I don't know why we're even bothering; there's no way in hell a GOP-controlled congress would listen to common proles like us.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

Yeah, so did I.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Okay, so I just got a pop up telling me I need to call congress about the FCC killing net neutrality. Anyone else get that?

@  Dracula : (17 October 2017 - 09:45 AM)

I'd probably use a primer coat on either of them.

@  unluckiness : (17 October 2017 - 07:21 AM)

Wonder if Overboard or Crashbash would be easier to paint over. Generally dark colors are harder but then again, screaming fuschia seems like it'd be difficult to cover too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Damn, the shoutbox won't accept those characters. I mean "open-mid back unrounded vowel" on Wikipedia.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:45 PM)

@Bass X0 Ha, I think some Asian accents of English, that mispronunciation would be considered standard, as those accents lack [ʌ].

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2017 - 12:08 PM)

She's the last thing you hear before your doom.

@  Noideaforaname : (15 October 2017 - 07:34 PM)

The cat can talk?!

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2017 - 06:30 PM)

TMM's first cat was Cookie b/c that's the first word he said when he saw her

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:34 PM)

Reminds me of when my nephew was one year old and my sister got him a puppy. He couldn't say puppy properly and it sounded like poppy, so Poppy is what they called her.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 02:36 PM)

Yeah. I thought it had some interesting informational articles too.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 01:59 PM)

does anyone else miss the ToyFare magazine? I just read it for the pictures and jokes rather than using it as a serious guide for buying and selling toys.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Uncle Bobby Peach, baby! Uncle Bobby Peach!

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Last night, playing Mario Kart with my daughter, I misread Baby Peach as "Bobby Peach".

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 09:03 AM)

Yeah, I might've forgotten that the Beast is pretty much just a mindless killing machine. That's pretty much what I get for going off of the TFWiki summaries without having actually read any of it.

@  tffan01 : (15 October 2017 - 08:34 AM)

@Onyxstrike Well, to be fair, the quality of the story aside, Beast Within illustrates the fact that Dinobots are feral in nature, with what would happen if they actually lost control. That's a character flaw in a way, correct? 

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:21 AM)

Send me a PM if you need help getting to the true ending, also.

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:15 AM)

Thinking about quirky robots occupies 30% of my brain's daily processing power. I can't remember birthdays and I never know where my phone is, but it's totally worth it.

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:03 AM)

Yay, I look forward to your dealings with quirky robots!

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:01 AM)

Definitely, I started setting aside funds a month ago for the inevitable Black Friday digital sales in the Playstation and Xbox stores. Going to be ready this year, and that's one of the many games on my list!

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 07:30 AM)

Hey Strafe will you ever play Nier: Automata?

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

Plus, The Beast Within is overall not a very good story.

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

The problem is is that Victory's dreams are meant to prey on the Dinobot's character flaws. For instance, Grimlock downing every Decepticon in his path, but falling for Starscream's begging for mercy schtick, preys on his arrogence. What character flaws does The Beast Within prey on? Nothing. The entire premise of the book was to please the many fans who posed the many hypothetical "What if the Dinobots combined?" scenarios way back when, with a gratuitous death count to boot.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:51 AM)

What's wrong with wanting it to be a canon dream sequence?

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 01:14 PM)

go home bass you are drunk

@  Bass X0 : (14 October 2017 - 12:15 PM)

My fanon is that The Beast Within is a follow up the Marvel UK annual story Victory. In Victory, the Dinobots are trapped within a dream world, unable to wake up - each one having dreams, ending in the Dinobots having another dream then waking up in a comic issue. My fanon is that The Beast Within is their final dream that finally pushes them into waking up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 10:25 AM)

As long as that means The Beast Within is still non-canon, I'm fine with it.

@  Locoman : (14 October 2017 - 09:29 AM)

When everything is canon, nothing is.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2017 - 09:25 AM)

The TF multiverse is an arbitrary concept. Whatever an author thinks, goes.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 05:59 AM)

Trypticon vs Deathsaurer. Make it happen!

@  tffan01 : (14 October 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Going by AVP, is Spider-Man and Zoids comic canon to the TF multiverse???

@  D Immortalis : (14 October 2017 - 12:37 AM)

stop that! we shall never speak of the "Embarassment", 'lest we be punished with more like it! =]

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2017 - 08:23 PM)

Would the mutant heads have been on the headmasters or on the bodies (sort of like TR Galvatron's "helmet")?

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 08:05 PM)

Alternate reality: Beast Wars mutant heads really took off. Nearly every Transformers since '96 has featured them. The big complaint against the line-wide gimmick in TR isn't being headmasters, it's the lack of mutant heads.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 07:03 PM)

Car TF molds get made all the time; bat TF molds don't. I feel like that justifies making a new Convobat from a mold configured highly unlike the original.

@  Bass X0 : (13 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

and yet Mindwipe is good enough to use as Convobat.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 03:19 PM)

I'm okay with that.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

Takara seems to have decided that the TR Chromedome mold is unsuitable for anyone else besides Chromedome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

*shrug* No 21st century (Macromaster) Nightbeat toy seems to have satisfied a decent number of people, from what I understand.

@  Locoman : (13 October 2017 - 02:57 PM)

You could probably finagle a pretty good Nightbeat body from TR Chromedome, or even a heavy retool of Cogman.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 02:44 PM)

Nightbeat in particular. Hasbro seems to love him.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 12:21 PM)

Yeah, they seem to be exploring every possible avenue of G1 now.


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Rarity: Does It Make You Like Toys More? And What Do You Have That Is "Rare"?


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#41 Dracula

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:47 PM

I have Transmetal Tigatron's gun barrels and tail in a bag of parts in my room somewhere. I still have no idea where the actual figure disappeared to...


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

I will say that on some figures, my desire for them is entirely disconnected from their rarity.  I will freaking shiv someone to get my hands on particular Euro G1/G2 stuff just because I like it that much and have particularly fond memories of living in Europe, regardless of rarity.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

There are several reasons I might like a toy.  Innovative transformation, nice deco, beloved character, or just a really solid mold.  I don't think rarity really plays much of a part.

 

This is pretty much how I feel - rarity doesn't really affect me one way or another; and if it does, its likely in that negative "I'm worried about breaking it" way that many have mentioned.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:13 PM

I'm annoyed by artificially rare items. I find intentionally limiting numbers just to drive up the price is obnoxious.

The good news is most of those aren't things I care about. Where it bugs me most is when something that could be considered an important collection piece is limited just for the sake of it. If people want to spend extra money on gold paint though, more power to 'em.

Things that are rare because they're tail-enders or whatever though isn't really intentional. I'm not going to chase them down unless it's something I really dig.

Consequently, there's very little I've been willing to pay the mark up for. :D
 
 
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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

  I've never made rarity the focus of my collecting habits, so I'd have to say that it matters very little to me.  However, because I have been in this fandom for decades, I have acquired certain Transformers over the years that would be considered rare.  

 

  The Arcee model kit, SBHM Galvatron and X-9 Ravage are a few off the top of my head.  I love those three for different reasons, but mainly it's because there are stories and memories attached to them.

 

  Perhaps even more near and dear to me though, are the beat-up G1 Wheeljack, the broken G1 Prowl, and the floppy mess of a G1 Megatron that I own from childhood.  Definitely not rare, certainly not worth much, but man, do I love seeing those few proudly displayed in my collection. 

 

Edit:  Nice thread, Robowang.  I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses.  :thumbsup


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

My childhood holy grail was a notorious shelf-warmer, so no.

 

 

The 'rarest' things I have are figures like CW Sky Lynx, Wave 2(?) of the Kreons (Lugnut and pals), that red Blot from Prime... stuff I got for retail or less, but also were really only around for a week or two. But of course rarity wasn't a thought with them.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 PM

 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?


Yeah. My ultimate collecting goal is to have a complete US G1 set, but a few items are excluded from the list since I'd be terrified to touch them.

I got a MISB Skyquake in 2001 for $40, because the dealer had no idea what he had. My whole collection went into storage in 2002, then I finally unpacked and put them all on display last year. Pyro and TM Megatron didn't survive being unwrapped and directly handled. Skyquake made scary crackling noises just from me straightening his arms. He's safe on the shelf now and I guess I'm never touching him again. Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

Rarity doesn't make me want a figure any more initially, but if it is rare and I already own it I think it makes me appreciate it more.

Probably helps I don't really have many super rare, cost-more-than-a-hundred-bucks-to-replace figures.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:00 PM

I don't have a taste for the super-rare, although I deeply desire X-9 Ravage and TM3 Megatron.

 

I do like to have "centerpieces" for displays and such that are a little something different than stuff you could stumble over on a shelf here. Like an MP, a superior Takara version, an exclusive, sometimes even a 3P or just a little something trickier to find like Sky Lynx.

But I don't ego trip over it, it's just my own thing.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:23 PM

Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?


Of course it counts as owning it, but for me, in that case, owning the figure would be the equivalent of owning a book with a picture of the figure. They would bring me the same value.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:35 AM

For me it'd be my hardcopies of Robot Heroes Prowl and Ironhhide (obviously Prowl being the more desirable as he was unreleased) plus some various test shots. Favourite rare stuff that was mass produced is actually some of the statues and busts, like the Prowl bust by DST, that thing is super nice, and only 250, off the top of my head, made, still in the lower end of the rarity index. Rarest thing I WANT is Randy's blue Classics Bumblebee. Oh, how I covet thee. *sighs*


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:43 AM

I guess I DO appreciate stuff I have more when it's rare, especially if I managed to get it at a price that doesn't reflect its rarity (I totally get Engledogg's point there). But that's more because of the "wow, I can't believe I got this" than anything -- the rarity translates into "difficult to track down and get", and that's it. Id prefer for nothing to be super rare, of course, because the stuff I like tends to be annoyingly tough to get that way :) United Stepper? (shrug) I like Stepper. Ikard? Cool color scheme on a squid. Movie Fracture? Great mold, female character/well done Crasher nod, looks badass. GF DVD Exillion? I love the Cyb/GF line, and I might buy a petrified taco if it were in Hot Rod colors. I'm happy to have them, but the rarity is mostly just part of their story.


Even the rarities I say I'm happy to have are down to the perverse fun of putting the effort into tracking them down -- it's technically rare, but not exactly a grail for anyone but me. These Japanese store exclusive Superlink Energon Weapons (thanks for the help on a fee, Buster Darkwings) aren't going to set the secondary market or collecting world on fire, but the hunt is part of thir story and that's nice. (If anyone can help with the others, I'd love that.)

It's never occurred to me to seek things out BECAUSE they're rare. Some people I've actually met want to have a 1/500 Lucky Draw Gold Chrome Whatever because of the 1/500, which goes right over my head. It's never been about being able to say I have something only 499 other people have. I won't even get into the "this is rare and expensive so it's a collection centerpiece of mine I will brag about", because "this is a symbol of how much more disposable income I have than you" is a good color on nobody.


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#53 M Sipher

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:29 AM

Ehn.

 

Like... some of my favorite things in the collection are toys with a story behind them, which doesn't so much translate to "rare" as... "obscure". Aveo Swerve, for example. Or the Visa card Microns. All of which commanded ridicu-prices at one point and now... not so much. I'm delighted to have the Kreon skiing Optimus (thanks again, Walky!), which near as I can tell is pretty f***ing rare, but I dig him because he's a silly skiing Optimus Prime Kreon.

 

I've sold lots of rare stuff. I used to own Road Fire. Sold him. Realized how little I cared about him.

 

 

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:57 AM

I starting writing a post with a spice analogy that made me look at the Tako Tank with hungry eyes, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I consider rarity more of a negative.

I mean, I love the Tako Tank, the fact that it was rare only made it harder to own. If the Tako Tank was as common as say Longrack I would love it all the same because it's an awesome toy. I'll still brag that I own a Tako Tank, because it's fun and give me an excuse to talk about a cool toy, but really I wish everyone had the chance to own one.

Oh the other end, I've jumped through hoops to get plenty of rare or hard to find toys over the years only to realize they are crappy toys and not worth the time, money, or effort. The rarity actually makes me hate these toys more. I could rant about a few toys that aren't really that bad, but I hate because of all the time and effort it took to get them only to be disappointed.

Then there's rare toys that everyone knows is crap, but are pricy because of their rarity (looking at you Mutants Soundwave).

So yeah, I see rarity more as a negative than a positive. Now I'm going to go have the Tako Tank fight Metals Megatron and X-9 Ravage. Like I said, I'm not above bragging :p

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:03 AM

I will say that "which one is rare/expensive" is like the only topic of conversation regarding Transformers that parents or in-laws or basically any visiting non-fan adult understands.  I can say, "this one means something to me because of a cartoon or comic book," and they'll shrug or their eyes will glaze over.  But say, "Oh, this particular Transformer is the third most expensive thing I own, after my house and my car," then finally they have something they care about at all.  So, um, thank you, rare Transformers toys, for filling fifteen seconds of awkward silence between me and my father-in-law that one time.  



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:10 AM

It factors into it somewhat but I largely want what I want.

I want the different colored Lucky Draw Micron Legend stuff because I like Armada. The only difference between an $80 Shining Unicron and a $3000 one is that I could actually afford the former.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 06:49 AM

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and yeah She doesn't mean that much to me... Worst pony isn't a good enough reason for me to want something in my collection.

 

 


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:31 AM

Rarest thing I own is SHBM Lava Galvatron, only 100 exist; however, it is not particularly hard to acquire, since as a single-color vinyl thingie people tend to get bored and sell them not infrequently. The toughest to acquire piece I own is without a doubt Dinogeist, from Brave Exkaiser.

I missed this comment before, but I think it's funny that we're on flip sides of the same series.  Far and away, two of the rarest things I've got is a MIB Dragonkaiser and non-reissue MIB Exkaiser from that same series.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

I don't honestly even know what the rarest Transformers thing I own is, which should basically convey that I don't really own anything rare.



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:52 PM

When you're down in south Florida, everything beyond the third or fourth wave of a given toyline is usually rare.

 

One of my biggest "I'M SUCH AN IDIOT" moments was when I passed on a T30 Gears I found in my local Wal-Mart, not realizing it was a rare tail-ender.


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