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Rarity: Does It Make You Like Toys More? And What Do You Have That Is "Rare"?
Posted 18 January 2017 - 04:56 PM
I will say that on some figures, my desire for them is entirely disconnected from their rarity. I will freaking shiv someone to get my hands on particular Euro G1/G2 stuff just because I like it that much and have particularly fond memories of living in Europe, regardless of rarity.
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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM
There are several reasons I might like a toy. Innovative transformation, nice deco, beloved character, or just a really solid mold. I don't think rarity really plays much of a part.
This is pretty much how I feel - rarity doesn't really affect me one way or another; and if it does, its likely in that negative "I'm worried about breaking it" way that many have mentioned.
Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:13 PM
The good news is most of those aren't things I care about. Where it bugs me most is when something that could be considered an important collection piece is limited just for the sake of it. If people want to spend extra money on gold paint though, more power to 'em.
Things that are rare because they're tail-enders or whatever though isn't really intentional. I'm not going to chase them down unless it's something I really dig.
Consequently, there's very little I've been willing to pay the mark up for.
Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:37 PM
I've never made rarity the focus of my collecting habits, so I'd have to say that it matters very little to me. However, because I have been in this fandom for decades, I have acquired certain Transformers over the years that would be considered rare.
The Arcee model kit, SBHM Galvatron and X-9 Ravage are a few off the top of my head. I love those three for different reasons, but mainly it's because there are stories and memories attached to them.
Perhaps even more near and dear to me though, are the beat-up G1 Wheeljack, the broken G1 Prowl, and the floppy mess of a G1 Megatron that I own from childhood. Definitely not rare, certainly not worth much, but man, do I love seeing those few proudly displayed in my collection.
Edit: Nice thread, Robowang. I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses.
Edited by Sciflyer, 18 January 2017 - 08:40 PM.
Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:53 PM
My childhood holy grail was a notorious shelf-warmer, so no.
The 'rarest' things I have are figures like CW Sky Lynx, Wave 2(?) of the Kreons (Lugnut and pals), that red Blot from Prime... stuff I got for retail or less, but also were really only around for a week or two. But of course rarity wasn't a thought with them.
Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 PM
Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?
Yeah. My ultimate collecting goal is to have a complete US G1 set, but a few items are excluded from the list since I'd be terrified to touch them.
I got a MISB Skyquake in 2001 for $40, because the dealer had no idea what he had. My whole collection went into storage in 2002, then I finally unpacked and put them all on display last year. Pyro and TM Megatron didn't survive being unwrapped and directly handled. Skyquake made scary crackling noises just from me straightening his arms. He's safe on the shelf now and I guess I'm never touching him again. Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?
Edited by Thylacine 2000, 18 January 2017 - 10:05 PM.
Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM
Probably helps I don't really have many super rare, cost-more-than-a-hundred-bucks-to-replace figures.
Edited by Diecast, 18 January 2017 - 10:16 PM.
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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:00 PM
I don't have a taste for the super-rare, although I deeply desire X-9 Ravage and TM3 Megatron.
I do like to have "centerpieces" for displays and such that are a little something different than stuff you could stumble over on a shelf here. Like an MP, a superior Takara version, an exclusive, sometimes even a 3P or just a little something trickier to find like Sky Lynx.
But I don't ego trip over it, it's just my own thing.
Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:23 PM
Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?
Of course it counts as owning it, but for me, in that case, owning the figure would be the equivalent of owning a book with a picture of the figure. They would bring me the same value.
Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:35 AM
For me it'd be my hardcopies of Robot Heroes Prowl and Ironhhide (obviously Prowl being the more desirable as he was unreleased) plus some various test shots. Favourite rare stuff that was mass produced is actually some of the statues and busts, like the Prowl bust by DST, that thing is super nice, and only 250, off the top of my head, made, still in the lower end of the rarity index. Rarest thing I WANT is Randy's blue Classics Bumblebee. Oh, how I covet thee. *sighs*
Edited by Cat, 19 January 2017 - 01:38 AM.
Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:43 AM
Even the rarities I say I'm happy to have are down to the perverse fun of putting the effort into tracking them down -- it's technically rare, but not exactly a grail for anyone but me. These Japanese store exclusive Superlink Energon Weapons (thanks for the help on a fee, Buster Darkwings) aren't going to set the secondary market or collecting world on fire, but the hunt is part of thir story and that's nice. (If anyone can help with the others, I'd love that.)
It's never occurred to me to seek things out BECAUSE they're rare. Some people I've actually met want to have a 1/500 Lucky Draw Gold Chrome Whatever because of the 1/500, which goes right over my head. It's never been about being able to say I have something only 499 other people have. I won't even get into the "this is rare and expensive so it's a collection centerpiece of mine I will brag about", because "this is a symbol of how much more disposable income I have than you" is a good color on nobody.
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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:29 AM
Like... some of my favorite things in the collection are toys with a story behind them, which doesn't so much translate to "rare" as... "obscure". Aveo Swerve, for example. Or the Visa card Microns. All of which commanded ridicu-prices at one point and now... not so much. I'm delighted to have the Kreon skiing Optimus (thanks again, Walky!), which near as I can tell is pretty f***ing rare, but I dig him because he's a silly skiing Optimus Prime Kreon.
I've sold lots of rare stuff. I used to own Road Fire. Sold him. Realized how little I cared about him.
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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:57 AM
I mean, I love the Tako Tank, the fact that it was rare only made it harder to own. If the Tako Tank was as common as say Longrack I would love it all the same because it's an awesome toy. I'll still brag that I own a Tako Tank, because it's fun and give me an excuse to talk about a cool toy, but really I wish everyone had the chance to own one.
Oh the other end, I've jumped through hoops to get plenty of rare or hard to find toys over the years only to realize they are crappy toys and not worth the time, money, or effort. The rarity actually makes me hate these toys more. I could rant about a few toys that aren't really that bad, but I hate because of all the time and effort it took to get them only to be disappointed.
Then there's rare toys that everyone knows is crap, but are pricy because of their rarity (looking at you Mutants Soundwave).
So yeah, I see rarity more as a negative than a positive. Now I'm going to go have the Tako Tank fight Metals Megatron and X-9 Ravage. Like I said, I'm not above bragging
Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:03 AM
I will say that "which one is rare/expensive" is like the only topic of conversation regarding Transformers that parents or in-laws or basically any visiting non-fan adult understands. I can say, "this one means something to me because of a cartoon or comic book," and they'll shrug or their eyes will glaze over. But say, "Oh, this particular Transformer is the third most expensive thing I own, after my house and my car," then finally they have something they care about at all. So, um, thank you, rare Transformers toys, for filling fifteen seconds of awkward silence between me and my father-in-law that one time.
Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:10 AM
I want the different colored Lucky Draw Micron Legend stuff because I like Armada. The only difference between an $80 Shining Unicron and a $3000 one is that I could actually afford the former.
Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:31 AM
Rarest thing I own is SHBM Lava Galvatron, only 100 exist; however, it is not particularly hard to acquire, since as a single-color vinyl thingie people tend to get bored and sell them not infrequently. The toughest to acquire piece I own is without a doubt Dinogeist, from Brave Exkaiser.
I missed this comment before, but I think it's funny that we're on flip sides of the same series. Far and away, two of the rarest things I've got is a MIB Dragonkaiser and non-reissue MIB Exkaiser from that same series.
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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:52 PM
When you're down in south Florida, everything beyond the third or fourth wave of a given toyline is usually rare.
One of my biggest "I'M SUCH AN IDIOT" moments was when I passed on a T30 Gears I found in my local Wal-Mart, not realizing it was a rare tail-ender.
Edited by ShadowMan024, 19 January 2017 - 12:54 PM.
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