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@  Robowang : (23 March 2017 - 08:45 AM)

Yikes. Sounds more like GTA.

@  Dracula : (23 March 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Someone drove a car through a crowd of people and then into the front gates of parliament, I think, and stabbed a police officer before being killed by other officers

@  Robowang : (23 March 2017 - 08:10 AM)

I coincidentally watched London Has Fallen yesterday afternoon, heard an offhand remark about a terrorist attack in London on the radio yesterday afternoon, and somehow put the two together in my sleepy haze. I need to read what actually happened.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 March 2017 - 11:21 PM)

That's relieving to hear.

@  Jalaguy : (22 March 2017 - 05:33 PM)

All good here, I don't work that far into the city.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2017 - 05:00 PM)

I'm way up north, so yeah.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 March 2017 - 02:34 PM)

I just saw the news. Are all of you Britons on this board alright?

@  Telly : (22 March 2017 - 01:20 PM)

spoilers dude!

@  Paladin : (22 March 2017 - 12:26 PM)

I'm pretty sure Kong doesn't fight Fox Studios...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 March 2017 - 12:25 PM)

I didn't know he was meeting the Fantastic Four's enemies.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2017 - 12:18 PM)

I might watch Kong: Skrull Island this weekend.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 March 2017 - 10:48 AM)

(At least I'm assuming it was "instead." I guess I don't know for sure that Eddie Murphy's character wouldn't have been Kirk's love interest.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 March 2017 - 10:47 AM)

I dunno about that. Star Trek IV was pretty great but I'm haunted by the knowledge that at one point instead of a love interest it was going to have Eddie Murphy.

@  Paladin : (22 March 2017 - 07:28 AM)

you know a remake/movie's in trouble when adding Eddie Murphy to it might make things BETTER...

@  unluckiness : (22 March 2017 - 06:45 AM)

Is Eddie Murphy still Mushu?

@  Waspinator : (21 March 2017 - 11:56 PM)

The captain Mulan falls in love with is also getting replaced by a new character

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:32 PM)

As long as we get the men throwing their manliness around, then crossdressing, I'll be happy.

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:30 PM)

what....? b-but that song's so awesome! *lookd up info* oh, it's just "for now", but could change since it's not planned for release until 2018.

@  Waspinator : (21 March 2017 - 08:22 PM)

Oh wow, you're not kidding: they're actually planning to remake Mulan without the songs. Idiots.

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:16 PM)

I'LL... MAKE A MAN... OUT OF YOU!!!

@  BlackMax : (21 March 2017 - 06:50 PM)

Much love to NightViper for that.

@  Paladin : (21 March 2017 - 06:49 PM)

can't; they cut that from the new movie.

@  Evac : (21 March 2017 - 06:48 PM)

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS! TO DEFEAT *smashes some pots* THE HUNS!

@  NightViper : (21 March 2017 - 01:54 PM)

If they had a sword they would not get bored. They would not get bored, that horrible Horde. They would find a lord - a lord and his ward - and use their sword to slice the lord. Yes slice the lord just like a gourd! Then the ward they turn themselves toward that horrible Horde. That horrible terrible deplorable Mongol Horde. And they would not be bored if they had a sword.

@  Telly : (21 March 2017 - 01:23 PM)

3

@  Paladin : (21 March 2017 - 01:07 PM)

how many boars would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol Horde got bored?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 March 2017 - 11:28 AM)

Well, you won't find it if you don't look! (Neither TMM nor The Allspark are in any way responsible for what you find.)

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 March 2017 - 02:47 AM)

I haven't seen grilled cheese and Super Ted cross over yet on the internet. Nor do I intend to search!

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 March 2017 - 01:56 AM)

This is the internet. Everything crosses over with everything if you look long enough. And if you're lucky, some of it isn't even porn!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 March 2017 - 01:40 AM)

I read that as San Adross and was wondering when there was a GTA and Star Fox Crossover... x.x;

@  Verity Carlo : (20 March 2017 - 09:02 PM)

gta san andreas bass boosted

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 06:56 PM)

starting monstrosity now... the arts making my eyes hurt and im hungry. ill start it later

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 06:55 PM)

trying to decide if autocracy was an attempt at an original story or just an excuse to quote the '86 movie for the gajillionth time. time to move on fom it (even if you did have a hand in writing it)!

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

certainly not! reminds me too much of those tests they made me take when i was a kid. the trauma. the trauma...

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 04:07 PM)

What, you don't like inkblots?

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 03:46 PM)

plus the -acies have my all time favorite artist on it (thats to be read with the most sarcastic tone possible btw)

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 03:40 PM)

You're not missing anything. Either in the "quality of the stories themselves" way OR in the "adds to the greater universe" way.

@  Dracula : (20 March 2017 - 03:30 PM)

I still haven't read the -acies despite owning most of them in print...

@  Dracula : (20 March 2017 - 03:29 PM)

I like Origins, I feel like the later stories add to it and make it better than what it was when written.

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

@jalaguy-well if i get bored with the stories i can always skip them lol

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

Origins felt like it was Megatron telling his own story and leaving out the parts he didn't like.

@  Jalaguy : (20 March 2017 - 02:49 PM)

Origins-and-acies-first reading orders are A Bad Idea.

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:32 PM)

origin felt like its writer was just waiting for someone to come along and fill in the gaps for him

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:32 PM)

im currently making my way through autocracy. im trying to read them all in the order on the wiki page; http://tfwiki.net/wi...ontinuity#Media

@  Rycochet : (20 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

The 'acys have no excuse for their terribleness.

@  Rycochet : (20 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

Megatron Origin gave us Megatron's lovely locks, so that's something. It wasn't horrible, but being condensed down to four issues really hurt it

@  Jalaguy : (20 March 2017 - 03:20 AM)

March Mayhem begins! Go vote now!

 

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@  Whirl Maximus : (20 March 2017 - 12:18 AM)

I'd sooner have that, Autocracy, Monstrosity and Primacy as a alt universe story arc.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 March 2017 - 10:44 PM)

Megatron Origin is super disappointing if you go in right after reading Chaos Theory/MtMtE...

@  Telly : (19 March 2017 - 09:34 PM)

just read the megatron origin series. that really shouldve been 6 issues. it was very choppy and some things couldve used some further explaining


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#41 Dracula

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:47 PM

I have Transmetal Tigatron's gun barrels and tail in a bag of parts in my room somewhere. I still have no idea where the actual figure disappeared to...


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

I will say that on some figures, my desire for them is entirely disconnected from their rarity.  I will freaking shiv someone to get my hands on particular Euro G1/G2 stuff just because I like it that much and have particularly fond memories of living in Europe, regardless of rarity.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

There are several reasons I might like a toy.  Innovative transformation, nice deco, beloved character, or just a really solid mold.  I don't think rarity really plays much of a part.

 

This is pretty much how I feel - rarity doesn't really affect me one way or another; and if it does, its likely in that negative "I'm worried about breaking it" way that many have mentioned.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:13 PM

I'm annoyed by artificially rare items. I find intentionally limiting numbers just to drive up the price is obnoxious.

The good news is most of those aren't things I care about. Where it bugs me most is when something that could be considered an important collection piece is limited just for the sake of it. If people want to spend extra money on gold paint though, more power to 'em.

Things that are rare because they're tail-enders or whatever though isn't really intentional. I'm not going to chase them down unless it's something I really dig.

Consequently, there's very little I've been willing to pay the mark up for. :D
 
 
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Posted 18 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

  I've never made rarity the focus of my collecting habits, so I'd have to say that it matters very little to me.  However, because I have been in this fandom for decades, I have acquired certain Transformers over the years that would be considered rare.  

 

  The Arcee model kit, SBHM Galvatron and X-9 Ravage are a few off the top of my head.  I love those three for different reasons, but mainly it's because there are stories and memories attached to them.

 

  Perhaps even more near and dear to me though, are the beat-up G1 Wheeljack, the broken G1 Prowl, and the floppy mess of a G1 Megatron that I own from childhood.  Definitely not rare, certainly not worth much, but man, do I love seeing those few proudly displayed in my collection. 

 

Edit:  Nice thread, Robowang.  I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses.  :thumbsup


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

My childhood holy grail was a notorious shelf-warmer, so no.

 

 

The 'rarest' things I have are figures like CW Sky Lynx, Wave 2(?) of the Kreons (Lugnut and pals), that red Blot from Prime... stuff I got for retail or less, but also were really only around for a week or two. But of course rarity wasn't a thought with them.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 PM

 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?


Yeah. My ultimate collecting goal is to have a complete US G1 set, but a few items are excluded from the list since I'd be terrified to touch them.

I got a MISB Skyquake in 2001 for $40, because the dealer had no idea what he had. My whole collection went into storage in 2002, then I finally unpacked and put them all on display last year. Pyro and TM Megatron didn't survive being unwrapped and directly handled. Skyquake made scary crackling noises just from me straightening his arms. He's safe on the shelf now and I guess I'm never touching him again. Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

Rarity doesn't make me want a figure any more initially, but if it is rare and I already own it I think it makes me appreciate it more.

Probably helps I don't really have many super rare, cost-more-than-a-hundred-bucks-to-replace figures.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:00 PM

I don't have a taste for the super-rare, although I deeply desire X-9 Ravage and TM3 Megatron.

 

I do like to have "centerpieces" for displays and such that are a little something different than stuff you could stumble over on a shelf here. Like an MP, a superior Takara version, an exclusive, sometimes even a 3P or just a little something trickier to find like Sky Lynx.

But I don't ego trip over it, it's just my own thing.


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#50 Dracula

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:23 PM

Does that count as entirely owning something, if its actual use is denied to you?


Of course it counts as owning it, but for me, in that case, owning the figure would be the equivalent of owning a book with a picture of the figure. They would bring me the same value.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:35 AM

For me it'd be my hardcopies of Robot Heroes Prowl and Ironhhide (obviously Prowl being the more desirable as he was unreleased) plus some various test shots. Favourite rare stuff that was mass produced is actually some of the statues and busts, like the Prowl bust by DST, that thing is super nice, and only 250, off the top of my head, made, still in the lower end of the rarity index. Rarest thing I WANT is Randy's blue Classics Bumblebee. Oh, how I covet thee. *sighs*


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:43 AM

I guess I DO appreciate stuff I have more when it's rare, especially if I managed to get it at a price that doesn't reflect its rarity (I totally get Engledogg's point there). But that's more because of the "wow, I can't believe I got this" than anything -- the rarity translates into "difficult to track down and get", and that's it. Id prefer for nothing to be super rare, of course, because the stuff I like tends to be annoyingly tough to get that way :) United Stepper? (shrug) I like Stepper. Ikard? Cool color scheme on a squid. Movie Fracture? Great mold, female character/well done Crasher nod, looks badass. GF DVD Exillion? I love the Cyb/GF line, and I might buy a petrified taco if it were in Hot Rod colors. I'm happy to have them, but the rarity is mostly just part of their story.


Even the rarities I say I'm happy to have are down to the perverse fun of putting the effort into tracking them down -- it's technically rare, but not exactly a grail for anyone but me. These Japanese store exclusive Superlink Energon Weapons (thanks for the help on a fee, Buster Darkwings) aren't going to set the secondary market or collecting world on fire, but the hunt is part of thir story and that's nice. (If anyone can help with the others, I'd love that.)

It's never occurred to me to seek things out BECAUSE they're rare. Some people I've actually met want to have a 1/500 Lucky Draw Gold Chrome Whatever because of the 1/500, which goes right over my head. It's never been about being able to say I have something only 499 other people have. I won't even get into the "this is rare and expensive so it's a collection centerpiece of mine I will brag about", because "this is a symbol of how much more disposable income I have than you" is a good color on nobody.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:29 AM

Ehn.

 

Like... some of my favorite things in the collection are toys with a story behind them, which doesn't so much translate to "rare" as... "obscure". Aveo Swerve, for example. Or the Visa card Microns. All of which commanded ridicu-prices at one point and now... not so much. I'm delighted to have the Kreon skiing Optimus (thanks again, Walky!), which near as I can tell is pretty f***ing rare, but I dig him because he's a silly skiing Optimus Prime Kreon.

 

I've sold lots of rare stuff. I used to own Road Fire. Sold him. Realized how little I cared about him.

 

 

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:57 AM

I starting writing a post with a spice analogy that made me look at the Tako Tank with hungry eyes, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I consider rarity more of a negative.

I mean, I love the Tako Tank, the fact that it was rare only made it harder to own. If the Tako Tank was as common as say Longrack I would love it all the same because it's an awesome toy. I'll still brag that I own a Tako Tank, because it's fun and give me an excuse to talk about a cool toy, but really I wish everyone had the chance to own one.

Oh the other end, I've jumped through hoops to get plenty of rare or hard to find toys over the years only to realize they are crappy toys and not worth the time, money, or effort. The rarity actually makes me hate these toys more. I could rant about a few toys that aren't really that bad, but I hate because of all the time and effort it took to get them only to be disappointed.

Then there's rare toys that everyone knows is crap, but are pricy because of their rarity (looking at you Mutants Soundwave).

So yeah, I see rarity more as a negative than a positive. Now I'm going to go have the Tako Tank fight Metals Megatron and X-9 Ravage. Like I said, I'm not above bragging :p

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:03 AM

I will say that "which one is rare/expensive" is like the only topic of conversation regarding Transformers that parents or in-laws or basically any visiting non-fan adult understands.  I can say, "this one means something to me because of a cartoon or comic book," and they'll shrug or their eyes will glaze over.  But say, "Oh, this particular Transformer is the third most expensive thing I own, after my house and my car," then finally they have something they care about at all.  So, um, thank you, rare Transformers toys, for filling fifteen seconds of awkward silence between me and my father-in-law that one time.  



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:10 AM

It factors into it somewhat but I largely want what I want.

I want the different colored Lucky Draw Micron Legend stuff because I like Armada. The only difference between an $80 Shining Unicron and a $3000 one is that I could actually afford the former.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 06:49 AM

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and yeah She doesn't mean that much to me... Worst pony isn't a good enough reason for me to want something in my collection.

 

 


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:31 AM

Rarest thing I own is SHBM Lava Galvatron, only 100 exist; however, it is not particularly hard to acquire, since as a single-color vinyl thingie people tend to get bored and sell them not infrequently. The toughest to acquire piece I own is without a doubt Dinogeist, from Brave Exkaiser.

I missed this comment before, but I think it's funny that we're on flip sides of the same series.  Far and away, two of the rarest things I've got is a MIB Dragonkaiser and non-reissue MIB Exkaiser from that same series.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

I don't honestly even know what the rarest Transformers thing I own is, which should basically convey that I don't really own anything rare.



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:52 PM

When you're down in south Florida, everything beyond the third or fourth wave of a given toyline is usually rare.

 

One of my biggest "I'M SUCH AN IDIOT" moments was when I passed on a T30 Gears I found in my local Wal-Mart, not realizing it was a rare tail-ender.


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