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@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:28 AM)

I remember him from the old days on Breaker High airing on YTV

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:28 AM)

Also, Ryan Gosling. Ugh, go #### yourself Ryan Gosling, with your perfect bone structure

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 February 2017 - 12:26 AM)

Since there's way more nominees than winners in every category that's not exactly unusual.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:25 AM)

Even then, I think it lost more nominations than it won.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:24 AM)

I think the reason La La Land won so many awards is because it was basically Hollywood stroking its own ego

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:20 AM)

Kinda glad. I like Emma Stone, but for whatever reason I can't stand that movie. I'm surprised it didn't win though, as it was typical Oscar bait

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:19 AM)

This is just goddamn surreal.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:19 AM)

Holy shit. It had the second-most nominations of any movie, and La La Land just lost Best Picture.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:11 AM)

"Look where I've been, I make everything happen! Look at that mean Mini Maui just tikkity tappin'! Ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HEY!"

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:10 AM)

Yeah, same. "You're Welcome" is honestly the best song in the movie.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:06 AM)

I liked the Moana song, though personally I enjoyed You're Welcome a little bit more because of the humor.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:04 AM)

Ah, well. As much as him not getting an Oscar hurts, Lin-Manuel has a shitload of awards already, so missing out on one isn't too bad. The guy managed to hit the jackpot with the Tonys for Hamilton and win a Grammy for it and get an Emmy... Somewhere. Don't know where he got the Emmy.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:02 AM)

@NVK: I realize that, but I still don't like that a terrible Zak Snyder film managed to even get an award.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:00 AM)

Look, I can understand The Force Awakens not getting a single award. Hell, I can even understand why Transformers lost to The Golden Compass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 February 2017 - 12:00 AM)

But Moana and Suicide Squad weren't nominated for the same things.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 11:47 PM)

We officially live in a world where a film involving Zak Snyder is apparently more deserving of an award than Lin-Manuel Miranda.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 February 2017 - 10:58 PM)

I was pretty shocked Star Trek Beyond lost out in Best Makeup to Suicide Squad. Killer Croc looked good, but Trek had a lot of good alien makeup

@  Maruten : (26 February 2017 - 10:36 PM)

I was surprised to see that everyone's so into La La Land. On paper it seems right up my alley, but I thought it was pretty... meh.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 February 2017 - 09:38 PM)

I read that as EPCOT status

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 09:26 PM)

I have a sinking feeling La La Land is going to win Best Song and keep Lin-Manuel Miranda from achieving EGOT status.

@  Echowarrior : (26 February 2017 - 07:12 PM)

Our Hydra is better than Marvel's Hydra. Just saying.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 07:05 PM)

ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH!

@  TriBlurr : (26 February 2017 - 07:03 PM)

Hail Hydra!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 06:22 PM)

Don't we still have Hydra?

@  Verno : (26 February 2017 - 06:10 PM)

There was always the chance we had some Japanese members on the board.

@  Confuzor : (26 February 2017 - 06:01 PM)

I got my MP Primal pretty quickly, but I haven't sent the payment confirmation on my Cheetor yet

@  Paladin : (26 February 2017 - 05:32 PM)

he's been out what, 3 days? Most shipping methods aren't THAT fast...

@  Verno : (26 February 2017 - 04:52 PM)

Does anyone have MP Cheetor in hand yet?

@  Confuzor : (26 February 2017 - 03:11 PM)

Y'all need more Rocko's Modern Life

@  Noideaforaname : (26 February 2017 - 11:04 AM)

I remember watching Doug all the time as a kid, but I watch it now and I don't at all see the appeal. *shrug* On the plus side, it added the word "nematode" to my vocabulary.

@  Paladin : (26 February 2017 - 10:47 AM)

https://twitter.com/CBR/status/835877002192306176 ...game over, man. :(

@  unluckiness : (26 February 2017 - 09:25 AM)

better than the current ones at least

@  Rycochet : (26 February 2017 - 09:08 AM)

90s Nicktoons were awful.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 08:16 AM)

Yeah, I'd get really pumped to watch it and the other Nicktoons.

@  lastmaximal : (26 February 2017 - 08:04 AM)

You digdug?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:40 AM)

Hate watching stuff like that.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:40 AM)

Also, I digged Doug. Mostly for the ancillary characters, though. Doug himself is one of those characters who gets into situations that make YOU feel embarrassd. Like Fred Savage on The Wonder Years.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:39 AM)

@PlutoniumBoss *Pinwheel fistbump*

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I remember Today's Special. The Toronto part was something of a revelation from my wife and her family when I came here.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 02:34 AM)

In hindsight, I'm pretty sure Miss Frizzle was a Time Lord.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 02:34 AM)

I got into science because of Magic School Bus.

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 February 2017 - 11:25 PM)

Anyone else remember Puttnam's Prairie Emporium? Not sure if it aired outside Canada

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 February 2017 - 11:21 PM)

Today's Special was a favourite of mine. Some of it was actually filmed at a department store here in Toronto

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 February 2017 - 10:34 PM)

Eureka! and Start Here were awesome too.

@  The Doctor Who : (25 February 2017 - 09:59 PM)

I remember watching Newton's Apple on PBS. That's where I learned about thermal insulation layers and why things change temperature faster when you blow on them.


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#21 Robowang

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:58 AM

Is it cool to own something for which there isn't even a picture of in the TFWiki yet?

Sure, but that's not why I picked it up. I just saw a tiny nondescript black & white box, without even a single picture on it, at Botcon sitting amongst a ton of stuff at a Japanese dealer's table at Botcon, and asked a fellow collector if he knew what it was. We were both pleasantly surprised.

Me, because random Speed Racer swag is cool. My compatriot, more likely because uncommon TF swag is cool. I had no idea that this was something special. I just thought it would be cool and fun in the same way I would appreciate a Bot Shot of a beloved character.

Let's just say that it was very fortunate for our friendship that the dealer had more than one, and we both left very happy.

Having a cool random story is way more fun than, "I spent a boatload of money on eBay for this."

Here he comes, here comes Mach 5 Prime, he's a demon on wheels....

 

I love a good story with this stuff. Besides the auctions I mentioned earlier, my favorite story is the time in 1999 when I was driving home with no intention of stopping anywhere. I saw a garage sale sign in front of this house with a big barn and SOMETHING just took control of me and veered into the driveway. 

 

I went home with a Cobra Terrordrome, nearly complete, for $15, and a U.S.S. Flagg (G.I.Joe aircraft carrier) missing some stuff for $25. It was pretty amazing as I was really getting into G.I.Joe collecting back then. 



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:07 PM

Probably the rarest thing I own is a Rodimus Jr, which I managed to snap in half on its first transformation, because the way it's built is stupid.  It's super-glued together and staying in robot mode forever now.

 

Other than that, I have X-9 Ravage, and a few Black Rodimii, and some stuff I've probably forgotten because it's in storage.  But everything I have is because I like the character or I like the combination of figure/colors, not simply because it's rare, and I don't get upset if other people get the chance to enjoy the same figures.

 

(On the other hand, every time I've needed to sell a certain figure because I needed the money, hugging Hasbro Asia always manages to reissue that specific figure right on cue :rolleyes )



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:16 PM

I dunno.  When I think of "rare" Transformers, I think of things like lucky draw figures and unreleased G2 figures.  I don't have anything that rare in my collection, and I probably never will because they're not worth the price to me.

 

The rarest thing I own is probably the Waspinator test shot that is my avatar.  I don't know how many of them are in circulation, but they show up on eBay from time to time and this one wasn't outrageously expensive.  It's special to me largely because a bunch of friends helped me buy it because they thought I should own it.

 

There are several reasons I might like a toy.  Innovative transformation, nice deco, beloved character, or just a really solid mold.  I don't think rarity really plays much of a part.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:37 PM

THAT is amazing. Nice scores! Was this a long time ago or something more recent? 

It was a while ago (2008) - both eBay wins from the same seller.  

 

eBay used to be pretty good to me back in the day.  I got a lot of five test-market G1 Happy Meal black and green Cliffjumpers (MISP) for $1.35 total (early-mid 2000s); the unreleased-in-the-U.S. Animorph figures (Taxxon/Alien and Jake/Stingray) in 2005 for a buck each; stuff like that.   I never see deals like that anymore.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:52 PM

*reads thread title*

 

I predict... 3 posts until MLP reference.

 

Generally I like toys more when they're one of my favorite MLP characters, yes. =P

In all seriousness, rarity is a cool bonus to a figure, in the same sense expense is, but it hardly trumps a more enjoyable toy. Botcon Treadshot is cool, but I still love RotF Dunerunner more and I have almoat dozen of that toy.

 

17?!

 

You're slipping, Allspark. I'm not sure I even know you anymore.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:15 PM

Rarity does add something to the mix but the price is a factor as well.

Aside from some BW, Universe, and Armada testshots (including Mini-cons), I have an Energon Insecticon in Chop Shop colors and a White Scrapmetal.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:52 PM

I'm a completist. Rarity is just an indicator, to me, of how much of a pain in the skidplate it might be to mark that box on the checklist. But every piece is wanted. I've no grails, really, though there are a couple pieces I'd certainly like to get.

 

Probably the two rarest items in my/our collection--as opposed to 'her'--are both Lucky Draws--'God' Primus and Black Fire Convoy--but there's a good bit of uncommon stuff in the mix, too.

 

(Her rarest 'wins'.)


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:55 PM

Having something rare, hard to find, or valuable is nice, but usually it just means I'm going to treat it too carefully to have fun with it.  If you know you can't replace a figure if it breaks, you're less likely to actually play with it.  This is why I like to buy doubles of particularly loved characters.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:08 PM

The rarest figures I have are Notcon Cosmos and Under-3, and I hate them both.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:09 PM

I think rarity definitely amplifies toy my wantage, but it's not the only factor - I have to like something else about the toy too like colors, design, etc. or else the scarcity puts me off trying to own a toy.

 

Case in point... I have zero interest in ever getting any of the Takara-only Generation One toys. They have neat ideas behind them, and the characters are kind of cool sometimes, but whenever I look at the toys there's just no need for me to try to hunt them down. I see them, I see how difficult it is to own a complete one, and any ambition to own them never forms.

 

But I have plunked down some serious cash for other rare figures - European G1/G2, Takara BW, BW pre-production, Diaclone... I mean, I have a Grizzly-1 hard copy I paid $500 for, a Torca resin cast concept piece I paid $700... and I almost bought a Lucky Draw Galva Lio Convoy a few years back for over a grand but the ATM was out of cash and I took it as a sign that I was being stupid :D

 

Basically the order of things have to be "Oh that's neat" THEN "Oh, it's rare?" and that's when the "OMG, I can't get it, but it MUST be mine!!!" sets in. But there definitely needs to be that initial draw or else rarity actually becomes a detriment to my interests.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:25 PM

Rarest thing I own is SHBM Lava Galvatron, only 100 exist; however, it is not particularly hard to acquire, since as a single-color vinyl thingie people tend to get bored and sell them not infrequently. The toughest to acquire piece I own is without a doubt Dinogeist, from Brave Exkaiser. I'm sure it is at least a thousand times as abundant as Lavagalv, but it took me 6 years to find one; mine remains, after 20+ years in the online fandom, the only intact specimen I have ever seen for sale.

In general, rarity makes interesting figures more interesting - you didn't just get what you wanted, you had to be a little devoted and a little lucky to get it. Everybody liked Stormjet's colors BEFORE we saw he would be rare. But for boring nobodies, being rare is not going to save them - see "Descent into Evil."

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:32 PM

My non-trolly answer is that, while there are things I own that not everyone owns that I think of as "special", it's more that I have them than that they're rare. In fact, I'd rather have a toy nobody really has or talks about but that can be had for a relatively low price for anyone who cares, because then I can say "oh my, you don't have x? You have to get one, it's great!" and they can, it's not just me going "oh man, this is great, SUCK MY DICK YOU CAN NEVER HAVE IT".

 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:39 PM

I'm moving right now, and nothing makes me cognizant of or hate rarity more.  Stupid rare shit is hugging annoying when you're moving, and the more stupid rare shit you have, the more annoying it is.  Got a damn cupboard full of BotCon customization class guys that I need to carry in some sort of pillow-based transport, I dunno.  You trip and fall, suddenly you're out an irreplacable Animated Minerva and like $1500.

 

yaaaay rarity



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:45 PM

I have a complete Monstructor and I'm not sure why. I think I'd prefer having $300 but I can't be arsed to sell it. Maybe after a year on my new display....

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:47 PM

I love a good story with this stuff. Besides the auctions I mentioned earlier, my favorite story is the time in 1999 when I was driving home with no intention of stopping anywhere. I saw a garage sale sign in front of this house with a big barn and SOMETHING just took control of me and veered into the driveway. 
 
I went home with a Cobra Terrordrome, nearly complete, for $15, and a U.S.S. Flagg (G.I.Joe aircraft carrier) missing some stuff for $25. It was pretty amazing as I was really getting into G.I.Joe collecting back then.

 
Back in college, me and some friends went to a local comic book store. The door to their back room was open and I noticed an enormous box with the GI Joe logo, which I immediately recognized as the USS Flagg. I asked the cashier about it and he said the owner had gotten it out of an attic where it had been since 1985, and wanted "I dunno, a hundred bucks" for it. 
 
As a college kid I couldn't just up and spend a hundred bucks, but my friends really wanted me to buy that thing, so two of them each pitched in 20 bucks and persuaded me to drive back to the store and buy it. Lucky too, since I caught word later that another guy had his eyes on it and would have come back to buy it the same day. 
 
We went back to our apartment and spent the rest of the day assembling it and putting on the stickers. It was only missing a few parts and is still the centerpiece of my collection.
 
Also, I still go hang out at this shop from time to time and the manager told me once that I'm now hated by the owner as he later learned how much the Flagg is really worth.
 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?


Yeah. My ultimate collecting goal is to have a complete US G1 set, but a few items are excluded from the list since I'd be terrified to touch them.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:52 PM

Now I want a stickerset to convert Titans Returns Getaway into Rarity from My Little Pony..


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:56 PM

I think AOE Rollbar (either one) is probably the best base figure for that.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:17 PM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.

 

I remember that for years the only images I saw of Jaguar were of him in robot mode.

 

When I finally saw his Beast mode I understood why.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:21 PM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.

 

Ravage is definitely worse than Cheetor, insofar as he transforms less and has huge, visible arms hanging out under his body. Cheetor was a great toy; Ravage has some of that greatness but botches a lot of it.

 

Gorgeous headsculpt, though. Way better than his actual show model, which modern Takara would probably have exactly replicated.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:41 PM

I find Ravage to be more fun than Cheetor in robot mode but terrible in comparison in var mode.




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