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@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 April 2018 - 01:01 AM)

I dislike him despite the trenchcoat. He's a jerk, and not the lovable kind. One note, and that note is douchebag.

@  Cybersnark : (23 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Honestly, I like him DESPITE the "trenchcoat." I prefer to keep it folded behind him like some Gundam-style flight-pack.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2018 - 11:04 AM)

People really love movieverse Crosshairs sheerly for the sake of his trenchcoat, don't they?

@  Plokatron : (22 April 2018 - 10:17 PM)

@RichardT1977 @TM2-Megatron I'm not normally one to pull the Ruined Forever card but I care less than zip about anything involving the 2017 Power Rangers movie! They screwed it up worse than Bay past DoTM and a Mastodon has four legs not six! While I'm on this mini rant anyone remember the scans of the Super Sentai Mecha book from a while back? Would it be against the rules to ask if anyone knows where to find the new updated book scanned? I really want the Concept Art for ideas.

@  D Immortalis : (22 April 2018 - 03:39 PM)

hot damn...the new From Ashes To New album isfraggin amazing

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:52 PM)

Just a few more days until my Battletech key goes live on GOG...

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:51 PM)

The first Transformers live action film really IS a lot better than what popular culture has made it out to be.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 April 2018 - 08:27 PM)

I dunno if I'd go that far. I enjoyed the first Bayformers more than the MMPR Movie remake

@  RichardT1977 : (21 April 2018 - 08:22 PM)

For the record, it was better than the (live-action) Transformers movies.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 08:21 PM)

No, I wasn't at the krispy kreme when I beat them. Wait, what?

@  Paladin : (21 April 2018 - 08:13 PM)

go back to Krispy Kreme

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 07:08 PM)

I beat five teenagers with attitude before, I can do it again.

@  Pennpenn : (21 April 2018 - 07:02 PM)

Great, after ten thousand years Wonko is free again. Does this mean more Power Rangers are needed? Again?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 April 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Ah, the layer of ice that froze it shut finally melted?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 09:14 AM)

Oh my god! GUYS! It's actually warm enough I was able to open my window!

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 11:14 PM)

Eh, I guess. He did fairly well on his own as an independent in his first appearance and such.

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 10:04 PM)

@Sabrblade Vulture tends to fare poorly as his own boss. Working for a great version of Doc Ock ain't a bad gig... and I did ask if about "bad" as opposed to "not the best". ;)

@  Plokatron : (20 April 2018 - 09:53 PM)

@Egon1982 No my friend Mutator Spiders as in get caught in their web and you are mutated into a even more animalistic creature than you were. Hordika were Half Sentient beings half Wild animal and unlike Spiderman it affected each race slightly differnt with Toa being of a similar mutation to each other. My guess for Spiderman is he would become more spider like but with a inside skeletal structure hmm wonder what Visorak Venom would do to CNA make Dinobot Predacon like monsters or something wild?!

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 04:15 PM)

compared to the "youth-sucking" gimmick from the other series? BIG step up.

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 03:57 PM)

@Otaku: What about that show's take on Vulture? He had potential at first but he eventually just settled into being a lackey rather than his own boss.

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:44 PM)

Did anyone else thought Thunder in Big Trouble in Little China when he was inflating looked like a garbage pail kid before he blew up into salad? I always thought that since seeing the movie in theaters at age 5. 

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:25 PM)

Mutator spiders as in man-spider?

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 11:06 AM)

Shocker was a pretty good villain in The Spectacular Spider-Man animated series. Wait, does that count since I can't think of a bad take on any character from that series? ;)

@  Arazyr : (20 April 2018 - 09:26 AM)

Ontario/Detroit area? Yeah. Supposedly, you could feel it from where I live, but I didn't notice. I never feel these things. 8(

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 07:08 AM)

so that WAS an earthquake last night...

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 09:43 PM)

Webhead Vs. Mutater Spiders. Hmmm I can see this ending badly with HordikaMan Hey maybe it'd make Venom catchable with spider sense.

@  Broadside : (19 April 2018 - 09:16 PM)

Can't wait for Spider-Man to fight the Visorak

@  RichardT1977 : (19 April 2018 - 05:32 PM)

Aw, man!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

SNIPER NO SNIPING

@  Bass X0 : (19 April 2018 - 04:33 PM)

SNIPERER!

@  Paladin : (19 April 2018 - 10:34 AM)

hated that game. damn sniper level's insane.

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 08:21 AM)

You know what's funny? Both Spiderman and Bionicle have a title in common. Web of Shadows. :p

@  Liege : (19 April 2018 - 08:03 AM)

Don't mocks the Shocker!

@  unluckiness : (19 April 2018 - 04:46 AM)

But he's the second lamest Spider-Man villain

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 April 2018 - 10:56 PM)

You know.. for all intents and purposes, Shocker should have won in Kamen Rider 71.

@  Plokatron : (18 April 2018 - 06:55 PM)

:wtf :D :wtf Can't wait can't wait just a couple more days and I'm at Comiccon Cape! Gonna be a blast! I hope they have that freaking proper Master Sword Replica this year with the black handel (I love the one from the old comic drawn by the guy who did Cyborg 009)!!!

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 April 2018 - 05:55 AM)

Found on Cranialtome.

@  unluckiness : (18 April 2018 - 05:32 AM)

Oh, so MP-scaled Bill Cypher with stupidly fiddly hands.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 April 2018 - 08:47 AM)

through a third party on facebook.

@  RichardT1977 : (16 April 2018 - 11:30 PM)

Did the Vok know Bill Cipher?

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 April 2018 - 08:09 PM)

See my thread ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (16 April 2018 - 01:32 PM)

Do you mean physically without actually wiring them up?

@  wonko the sane? : (16 April 2018 - 01:32 PM)

Uh... how do you not know?

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 April 2018 - 12:46 PM)

I'm wondering if HP stuck in an extra 128SDD + 3TB HDD into the computer I bought for $850

@  Benbot : (16 April 2018 - 11:58 AM)

"OH"

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2018 - 11:06 AM)

"Semper Fi"

@  EShadowP : (16 April 2018 - 10:36 AM)

"Simper-Fi" :thumbsup

@  Plokatron : (16 April 2018 - 12:31 AM)

Oh my word it is true. The greatest Gunnery Sargent to live is now gone. Gunny I know I'd of never cut the mustard if you were my CO but as I friend I would of been humbled and honored to know a man who truly knew the corp. May the jackets always be full metal and no watermelon left standing. Forgive the jokes there but you made it clear you hated watermelons with how many you sliced, blasted and plain disintegrated on Tv. :thumbsup  (Why do we not have a Wheeljack salute emot?)  Simper-Fi Carry on Gunny see you up there in the great kingdom one day hope you enjoy the company of my great uncles and everyone who you saw last on that field of honor.

@  Plokatron : (16 April 2018 - 12:21 AM)

Wait what!!!!!!! Gunny is dead!!!!

@  Sabrblade : (15 April 2018 - 09:37 PM)

RIP, R. Lee Ermey :(


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Rarity: Does It Make You Like Toys More? And What Do You Have That Is "Rare"?


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#21 Robowang

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:58 AM

Is it cool to own something for which there isn't even a picture of in the TFWiki yet?

Sure, but that's not why I picked it up. I just saw a tiny nondescript black & white box, without even a single picture on it, at Botcon sitting amongst a ton of stuff at a Japanese dealer's table at Botcon, and asked a fellow collector if he knew what it was. We were both pleasantly surprised.

Me, because random Speed Racer swag is cool. My compatriot, more likely because uncommon TF swag is cool. I had no idea that this was something special. I just thought it would be cool and fun in the same way I would appreciate a Bot Shot of a beloved character.

Let's just say that it was very fortunate for our friendship that the dealer had more than one, and we both left very happy.

Having a cool random story is way more fun than, "I spent a boatload of money on eBay for this."

Here he comes, here comes Mach 5 Prime, he's a demon on wheels....

 

I love a good story with this stuff. Besides the auctions I mentioned earlier, my favorite story is the time in 1999 when I was driving home with no intention of stopping anywhere. I saw a garage sale sign in front of this house with a big barn and SOMETHING just took control of me and veered into the driveway. 

 

I went home with a Cobra Terrordrome, nearly complete, for $15, and a U.S.S. Flagg (G.I.Joe aircraft carrier) missing some stuff for $25. It was pretty amazing as I was really getting into G.I.Joe collecting back then. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:07 PM

Probably the rarest thing I own is a Rodimus Jr, which I managed to snap in half on its first transformation, because the way it's built is stupid.  It's super-glued together and staying in robot mode forever now.

 

Other than that, I have X-9 Ravage, and a few Black Rodimii, and some stuff I've probably forgotten because it's in storage.  But everything I have is because I like the character or I like the combination of figure/colors, not simply because it's rare, and I don't get upset if other people get the chance to enjoy the same figures.

 

(On the other hand, every time I've needed to sell a certain figure because I needed the money, hugging Hasbro Asia always manages to reissue that specific figure right on cue :rolleyes )



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:16 PM

I dunno.  When I think of "rare" Transformers, I think of things like lucky draw figures and unreleased G2 figures.  I don't have anything that rare in my collection, and I probably never will because they're not worth the price to me.

 

The rarest thing I own is probably the Waspinator test shot that is my avatar.  I don't know how many of them are in circulation, but they show up on eBay from time to time and this one wasn't outrageously expensive.  It's special to me largely because a bunch of friends helped me buy it because they thought I should own it.

 

There are several reasons I might like a toy.  Innovative transformation, nice deco, beloved character, or just a really solid mold.  I don't think rarity really plays much of a part.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:37 PM

THAT is amazing. Nice scores! Was this a long time ago or something more recent? 

It was a while ago (2008) - both eBay wins from the same seller.  

 

eBay used to be pretty good to me back in the day.  I got a lot of five test-market G1 Happy Meal black and green Cliffjumpers (MISP) for $1.35 total (early-mid 2000s); the unreleased-in-the-U.S. Animorph figures (Taxxon/Alien and Jake/Stingray) in 2005 for a buck each; stuff like that.   I never see deals like that anymore.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:52 PM

*reads thread title*

 

I predict... 3 posts until MLP reference.

 

Generally I like toys more when they're one of my favorite MLP characters, yes. =P

In all seriousness, rarity is a cool bonus to a figure, in the same sense expense is, but it hardly trumps a more enjoyable toy. Botcon Treadshot is cool, but I still love RotF Dunerunner more and I have almoat dozen of that toy.

 

17?!

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:15 PM

Rarity does add something to the mix but the price is a factor as well.

Aside from some BW, Universe, and Armada testshots (including Mini-cons), I have an Energon Insecticon in Chop Shop colors and a White Scrapmetal.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:52 PM

I'm a completist. Rarity is just an indicator, to me, of how much of a pain in the skidplate it might be to mark that box on the checklist. But every piece is wanted. I've no grails, really, though there are a couple pieces I'd certainly like to get.

 

Probably the two rarest items in my/our collection--as opposed to 'her'--are both Lucky Draws--'God' Primus and Black Fire Convoy--but there's a good bit of uncommon stuff in the mix, too.

 

(Her rarest 'wins'.)


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:55 PM

Having something rare, hard to find, or valuable is nice, but usually it just means I'm going to treat it too carefully to have fun with it.  If you know you can't replace a figure if it breaks, you're less likely to actually play with it.  This is why I like to buy doubles of particularly loved characters.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:08 PM

The rarest figures I have are Notcon Cosmos and Under-3, and I hate them both.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:09 PM

I think rarity definitely amplifies toy my wantage, but it's not the only factor - I have to like something else about the toy too like colors, design, etc. or else the scarcity puts me off trying to own a toy.

 

Case in point... I have zero interest in ever getting any of the Takara-only Generation One toys. They have neat ideas behind them, and the characters are kind of cool sometimes, but whenever I look at the toys there's just no need for me to try to hunt them down. I see them, I see how difficult it is to own a complete one, and any ambition to own them never forms.

 

But I have plunked down some serious cash for other rare figures - European G1/G2, Takara BW, BW pre-production, Diaclone... I mean, I have a Grizzly-1 hard copy I paid $500 for, a Torca resin cast concept piece I paid $700... and I almost bought a Lucky Draw Galva Lio Convoy a few years back for over a grand but the ATM was out of cash and I took it as a sign that I was being stupid :D

 

Basically the order of things have to be "Oh that's neat" THEN "Oh, it's rare?" and that's when the "OMG, I can't get it, but it MUST be mine!!!" sets in. But there definitely needs to be that initial draw or else rarity actually becomes a detriment to my interests.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:25 PM

Rarest thing I own is SHBM Lava Galvatron, only 100 exist; however, it is not particularly hard to acquire, since as a single-color vinyl thingie people tend to get bored and sell them not infrequently. The toughest to acquire piece I own is without a doubt Dinogeist, from Brave Exkaiser. I'm sure it is at least a thousand times as abundant as Lavagalv, but it took me 6 years to find one; mine remains, after 20+ years in the online fandom, the only intact specimen I have ever seen for sale.

In general, rarity makes interesting figures more interesting - you didn't just get what you wanted, you had to be a little devoted and a little lucky to get it. Everybody liked Stormjet's colors BEFORE we saw he would be rare. But for boring nobodies, being rare is not going to save them - see "Descent into Evil."

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:32 PM

My non-trolly answer is that, while there are things I own that not everyone owns that I think of as "special", it's more that I have them than that they're rare. In fact, I'd rather have a toy nobody really has or talks about but that can be had for a relatively low price for anyone who cares, because then I can say "oh my, you don't have x? You have to get one, it's great!" and they can, it's not just me going "oh man, this is great, SUCK MY DICK YOU CAN NEVER HAVE IT".

 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:39 PM

I'm moving right now, and nothing makes me cognizant of or hate rarity more.  Stupid rare shit is hugging annoying when you're moving, and the more stupid rare shit you have, the more annoying it is.  Got a damn cupboard full of BotCon customization class guys that I need to carry in some sort of pillow-based transport, I dunno.  You trip and fall, suddenly you're out an irreplacable Animated Minerva and like $1500.

 

yaaaay rarity



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:45 PM

I have a complete Monstructor and I'm not sure why. I think I'd prefer having $300 but I can't be arsed to sell it. Maybe after a year on my new display....

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:47 PM

I love a good story with this stuff. Besides the auctions I mentioned earlier, my favorite story is the time in 1999 when I was driving home with no intention of stopping anywhere. I saw a garage sale sign in front of this house with a big barn and SOMETHING just took control of me and veered into the driveway. 
 
I went home with a Cobra Terrordrome, nearly complete, for $15, and a U.S.S. Flagg (G.I.Joe aircraft carrier) missing some stuff for $25. It was pretty amazing as I was really getting into G.I.Joe collecting back then.

 
Back in college, me and some friends went to a local comic book store. The door to their back room was open and I noticed an enormous box with the GI Joe logo, which I immediately recognized as the USS Flagg. I asked the cashier about it and he said the owner had gotten it out of an attic where it had been since 1985, and wanted "I dunno, a hundred bucks" for it. 
 
As a college kid I couldn't just up and spend a hundred bucks, but my friends really wanted me to buy that thing, so two of them each pitched in 20 bucks and persuaded me to drive back to the store and buy it. Lucky too, since I caught word later that another guy had his eyes on it and would have come back to buy it the same day. 
 
We went back to our apartment and spent the rest of the day assembling it and putting on the stickers. It was only missing a few parts and is still the centerpiece of my collection.
 
Also, I still go hang out at this shop from time to time and the manager told me once that I'm now hated by the owner as he later learned how much the Flagg is really worth.
 

Dinoking, for example, is a lot harder/more expensive to get now than when I got it, but that hasn't made me like it more than I used to. In fact, it's just made me hesitant about touching it - I can basically never play with my Pyro again because I'm afraid it'll break, and what good is that?


Yeah. My ultimate collecting goal is to have a complete US G1 set, but a few items are excluded from the list since I'd be terrified to touch them.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:52 PM

Now I want a stickerset to convert Titans Returns Getaway into Rarity from My Little Pony..


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:56 PM

I think AOE Rollbar (either one) is probably the best base figure for that.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:17 PM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.

 

I remember that for years the only images I saw of Jaguar were of him in robot mode.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:21 PM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.

 

Ravage is definitely worse than Cheetor, insofar as he transforms less and has huge, visible arms hanging out under his body. Cheetor was a great toy; Ravage has some of that greatness but botches a lot of it.

 

Gorgeous headsculpt, though. Way better than his actual show model, which modern Takara would probably have exactly replicated.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:41 PM

I find Ravage to be more fun than Cheetor in robot mode but terrible in comparison in var mode.




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