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@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 03:18 PM)

Because that line always cracks me up.

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 03:18 PM)

Does she at least say "AAAAAAAH! AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS, I'M FREE! IT'S TIME TO CONQUER EARTH!"

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 03:16 PM)

Well, at least Rita's still over-the-top, then...

@  MEDdMI : (30 March 2017 - 03:01 PM)

My friend said it tried to be inspiring and serious, but Rita was too campy and some of the messages might not be good for kids.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (30 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

Anyone been to the theater to see Power Rangers? How is it?

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 02:24 PM)

Meh, even if it was a real continuation it wouldn't be the same without Tony Jay.

@  Rycochet : (30 March 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I don't want to see it be a trainwreck and crash and burn, because if it does that's probably it for ReBoot in any form for another decade or even longer. I'm just frustrated as ReBoot is one of the few things I like as much as Transformers.

@  Boomhauer : (30 March 2017 - 01:50 PM)

Fun fact: one of the actors for the main kids lied on his resume that he knew how to skate. He actualy doesn't. They had to choose between reshooting all his scenes with somebody else, getting a stunt or... just not having him skate at all.

@  Boomhauer : (30 March 2017 - 01:49 PM)

A close friend of mine has been working on that show for almost a year now. He's told me lots of things that filled me with excitement about how baffled the internet will be about it. It's gonna be a great trainwreck.

@  Rycochet : (30 March 2017 - 12:37 PM)

Given all the advancements in computing since the end of the original series, how they've spread through every facet of our lives they could tell some great stories within the existing ReBoot universe... Instead they're going for Power Rangers meets Tron.

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 12:21 PM)

That's... That's not ReBoot. That's... That's a bad Tron rip-off.

@  Rycochet : (30 March 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Well, the ReBoot revival sounds positively dire.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 March 2017 - 01:58 AM)

Interior decorating by Ed Gein.

@  Telly : (29 March 2017 - 06:23 PM)

they make for good hat/coat racks in random places

@  Waspinator : (29 March 2017 - 06:10 PM)

I use antlers in all of my decorating!

@  Locoman : (29 March 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Evil?! Eeevil?! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiil!

@  Rycochet : (29 March 2017 - 03:43 PM)

Love Love, Peace Peace.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 March 2017 - 03:38 PM)

DEATH, DEATH, DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL, EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL SONGS

@  MEDdMI : (29 March 2017 - 03:07 PM)

BE A MAAAAAANNNNNN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (29 March 2017 - 02:48 PM)

Young man, there's no need to feel down.

@  Waspinator : (29 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

Me, an alien? Is this one of your Earth jokes?

@  Evac : (29 March 2017 - 02:28 PM)

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG WARTHOOOOOOOOOOOG

@  Rycochet : (29 March 2017 - 11:27 AM)

And it don't take money, don't take fame, don't need no credit card to ride this train.

@  Dracula : (29 March 2017 - 09:30 AM)

When I was a young boy, I had to fight King Garamoth for dominion of Earth

@  OrionPax44 : (29 March 2017 - 09:00 AM)

Wouldn't it be cheaper just to have her mailed to you?

@  ▲ndrusi : (29 March 2017 - 07:59 AM)

When I was a young boy, my father took me into Tahiti to see a marching band.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 03:32 PM)

When I was a young boy,my father said to me; 'There's only one girl in the world for you, and she probably lives in Tahiti.'

@  Lightbright : (28 March 2017 - 03:26 PM)

It's a magical place :)

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 02:20 PM)

They were all in Tahiti that day, oh, and those days too, but they totally know someone who was there.

@  Broadside : (28 March 2017 - 01:37 PM)

Supposedly one of Mainframe's friends died during AHM, so presumably they were THERE, just, like, off-panel.

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Additionally, Skywatch was rushed; it took them 23 years to learn how to control Ravage and Laserbeak, and they didn't even have a year to try and get the Dynobots under control.

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 11:58 AM)

Presumably dealing with other problems-The military was already routed to NYC before the blackout. And a counter terrorism unit is not something you have deal with an alien menace-it was Skywatch's purview, and even then, their problems started occurring only a year after Joes formation.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 11:57 AM)

I think the only way I would buy a Gi-Joe comic would be if they were paired up with the monsterbots.

@  Evac : (28 March 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Nah, the Monsterbots had that covered.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 11:43 AM)

Where were they when poop was hitting the fan with the Machination? You've got giant robot monsters battling in the open with an army of human controlled robot weapons... Maaaaybe that's the kind of thing they should have intervened in given how Skywatch failed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 March 2017 - 11:37 AM)

There was a major coordinated military presence outside New York during AHM. Where was the elite special task force?

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 11:24 AM)

Well there was also Soundwave disrupting all communications so no one could coordinate and also Starscream killed the President, and everyone else on Air Force One, who were probably some of the few who actually knew about their existence

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 11:21 AM)

If your country is being torn apart by aliens, you use every tool at your disposal and two years before AHM still puts them in existance around the time of the Machination who were very much the kind of problem they should have been dealing with.

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 11:10 AM)

IDW Joe was a top secret anti-terrorism unit made up of specialists. Not really "repelling an invasion force" material, plus they were formed two years before AHM

@  unluckiness : (28 March 2017 - 10:58 AM)

The Avengers were all Skrulls or something at the time

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 March 2017 - 10:45 AM)

It happened just like Spidey and SHIELD turned up in the original G1 comics.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 March 2017 - 10:35 AM)

I try to forget that Avengers thing ever happened. I mean, aside from a throwaway line in Spotlight: Ramjet, it never comes up again anyway.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 10:29 AM)

They would have been #1 on the Presidents speed dial to deal with the problems caused by Skywatch losing control of the Transformers in their care.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 March 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Don't forget the Avengers. Megatron must have culled metahumans before AHM. Picture him personally tearing Spider-man in two.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 March 2017 - 10:18 AM)

You'd think they would've intervened the time Megatron took over New York.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 08:25 AM)

I really don't care for Gi-Joe being retconned into sharing the same universe as Transformers, There have been too many Joe free events in America for them to have existed all along.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 March 2017 - 07:53 AM)

And now he gets to be a member of hugging G.I. Joe.

@  unluckiness : (28 March 2017 - 06:46 AM)

I don't think anyone was ever supposed to like him

@  Broadside : (28 March 2017 - 06:36 AM)

To be fair, Costa at least had the self-awareness to turn Spike into a villain when he realised that nobody liked him.

@  Jalaguy : (28 March 2017 - 05:17 AM)

And the "lol idgaf" approach to making itself part of the existing universe is stupid. They could have pivoted to be more G1-cartoon-y without throwing so much worldbuilding out the window for no reason.


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#1 Robowang

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:21 AM

So I have this trait in which I tend to care more about a figure when it's harder to find or limited. I know a few of my buddies think that's stupid and that I should just appreciate a figure at face value, but that's just not how my collecting is programmed. For example, I prefer Primal Prime over Optimal Optimus. Optimal's colors are pretty awesome, but he was just...some toy to me when he came out. Primal Prime was this super-limited, hard-to-find figure, and while I do love his appearance, I have to admit, he's just in Prime colors. But guess which one I still own and display! On the flip side, with the massive decrease in worth for a lot of Botcon toys over the last few years, I find myself liking some of them less. The "rarity" factor has decreased knowing that the figure isn't as desirable anymore. I can still look at Double Punch and say "Yeah, that's a pretty figure," but the collector appeal just isn't there for me. (I like his colors enough that I haven't sold him, though.)

 

So my question is this: do YOU feel this way about certain figures that are harder to find? Do you have any "rare" treasures you just love to show off or want to mention? 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:29 AM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:34 AM

*Glances lovingly at his Under-3, TM Claw Jaw, and Ikard/Tako Tank*

Yeah, I think I get that mentality.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:38 AM

I think it definitely applies.

 

No one would care about Stormjet, Spacewarp, green Ramulus, Energon Ultra Magnus, Reverb, most Lucky Draw figures, etc if they weren't rare or canceled figures (baring fiction to come after the fact - like with Spacewarp).

 

I know that I wouldn't care so much about the BAPE Convoys if they weren't rare.  Granted I'd get them, but obviously I like them more than I probably should due to the fact that they're rare and costly.

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

 

TLDR, I definitely think it applies.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:40 AM

Not really. Rarity to me is a boundary. I like toys that are fun and/or nostalgic and/or remind me of favorite characters and/or inspire my imagination. I'm likely to show more care to a rare or valuable item, but only because I don't want to have to replace it.

 

The most expensive toy in my collection is probably the MOTUC Castle Grayskull, and I bought that because I thought it was really frikkin' cool. Along similar lines, I own a copy of Rondo of Blood for PC Engine, and that only because it was my holy grail for more than a decade. 

 

Putting it another way, if I had the scratch, I would never buy a Lucky Draw figure or Stadium Events for NES, because they would bring me no value other than to say that I had a rare thing. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:43 AM

I...don't think so really. Any time I have something that's harder to get I'm usually just more nervous that I'll accidentally break the thing one day.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:44 AM

Rarity's pretty much the only way I can explain people buying chromed Lucky Draw stuff, since you could spend less than half the money and have the damn figure chromed on your own with exactly the same result.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:50 AM

For some people, maybe. For me, definitely not. The end of scarcity is a good. I would like everyone to get access to the stuff I love, so they might love it too.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 AM

This applies to me to some degree.  For a number of years I took great pride in my ownership of a MIB G1 Overlord (until I sold it).  Currently probably my most valuable figure is RiD Brave Max and I like him in part because of his uncommon availability.

 

But I don't really like overpaying for something rare, so I like rarity if I can get it at a reasonable price.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:26 AM

Rarity's pretty much the only way I can explain people buying chromed Lucky Draw stuff, since you could spend less than half the money and have the damn figure chromed on your own with exactly the same result.

Having a shelf of expensive gold transformers is one of those expressions of Trumpian excess.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:27 AM

Is it cool to own something for which there isn't even a picture of in the TFWiki yet?

Sure, but that's not why I picked it up. I just saw a tiny nondescript black & white box, without even a single picture on it, at Botcon sitting amongst a ton of stuff at a Japanese dealer's table at Botcon, and asked a fellow collector if he knew what it was. We were both pleasantly surprised.

Me, because random Speed Racer swag is cool. My compatriot, more likely because uncommon TF swag is cool. I had no idea that this was something special. I just thought it would be cool and fun in the same way I would appreciate a Bot Shot of a beloved character.

Let's just say that it was very fortunate for our friendship that the dealer had more than one, and we both left very happy.

Having a cool random story is way more fun than, "I spent a boatload of money on eBay for this."

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:37 AM

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

This.  

 

To me, owning a rare figure is great and all, but to get a great deal on one is awesome.  For example, my Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are great, but my 99-cent Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are awesome.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:49 AM

It's the opposite for me. If it's rare, I have to worry about how to replace it if it breaks, and that's gotten way more pronounced now that I have kids. I don't need the stress. And I've found that the mass retail toys are more "real" to me. The big thing that got me started as an "adult collector" was the realization that Cyberjets were even more awesome than the Jetfire I'd grown up with, and they were $2.99. I'm in this because I like the idea of something interesting and well-engineered, which serves no useful purpose, and which you can buy with lunch money.

 

I did enjoy having the occasional toy made just for collectors back when that was novel, but at this point that market's way too spoiled to be much fun. I've sold very nearly all of my BotCon toys. I'll admit that part of this is my growing antipathy toward the collector-driven fandom. Plus, owning a lot of stuff that had appreciated in value was pretty helpful during the first few / most expensive years of day care. I got more for SG Rodimus than I got in trade-in for my Nissan.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:14 AM

Yeah, I remember selling off my Botcon 2006 set (the only funpub set I ever got) and buying a tablet with the money. I never once felt an ounce of regret over that sale. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:29 AM

I'm in Canada. They're all rare.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

I don't buy 'em much anymore to be honest with ye. So every purchase now is a special thing. I do like it when they go offbeat with the characters you never even expected to see as a toy again, does that count as rare? Sure it's a mass retail toy, but it's something you'll only really have happen once in a blue moon ie a rare occurrence. Any old year is going to have 5 Bumblebees released, but a Straxus? Now that's rare.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

Generally I like toys more when they're one of my favorite MLP characters, yes. =P

In all seriousness, rarity is a cool bonus to a figure, in the same sense expense is, but it hardly trumps a more enjoyable toy. Botcon Treadshot is cool, but I still love RotF Dunerunner more and I have almoat dozen of that toy.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:45 AM

I think it definitely applies.

 

No one would care about Stormjet, Spacewarp, green Ramulus, Energon Ultra Magnus, Reverb, most Lucky Draw figures, etc if they weren't rare or canceled figures (baring fiction to come after the fact - like with Spacewarp).

 

I know that I wouldn't care so much about the BAPE Convoys if they weren't rare.  Granted I'd get them, but obviously I like them more than I probably should due to the fact that they're rare and costly.

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

 

TLDR, I definitely think it applies.

 

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I recently won a bunch of less-than-current-eBay-value auctions with the intentions of reselling at a profit. I made enough profit on the rest of the stuff that I got to keep G1 Metalhawk, Deathsaurus, and Dinoking for free! (And they are complete and gorgeous...with boxes!) 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:53 AM

Rarity helps increase the value in my mind, but it's not the end-all, go-all for why I buy a TF.

 

Some rare ones I buy cus rare, and some, I enjoy cus of rarity, but most of the rare ones, I play with maybe once or twice then plug in a box and never look at it again, cus I'm terrified of wearing it thin by playing with it too much.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:53 AM

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

This.  

 

To me, owning a rare figure is great and all, but to get a great deal on one is awesome.  For example, my Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are great, but my 99-cent Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are awesome.

 

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