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@  Telly : (26 April 2018 - 12:05 AM)

the taxes on yoda would be much cheaper than a new car

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 April 2018 - 11:07 PM)

The end is near.

@  MEDdMI : (25 April 2018 - 09:28 PM)

@Waspinator oh wow... :D

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2018 - 09:21 PM)

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@  CORVUS : (25 April 2018 - 08:22 PM)

I wager so.

@  Miss Kayla Kaon : (25 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Weird not being able to see anons anymore..... or the staff forums...... this must be what all retired staffers feel like

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 April 2018 - 02:59 PM)

I agree the logo should be AToyoTA

@  EShadowP : (25 April 2018 - 10:02 AM)

The Toyota logo spells Toyota. That's hardly stupid.

@  Benbot : (25 April 2018 - 09:59 AM)

Toyota has a stupid logo. Who's with me?

@  Paladin : (24 April 2018 - 07:16 PM)

so Crosshairs is basically Marcus Fenix? same VA anyway...

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2018 - 06:28 PM)

Would be. Yeah.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 April 2018 - 04:50 PM)

Million years of war... you'd be one too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2018 - 03:41 PM)

So in other words, they're psychopaths.

@  Sabrblade : (24 April 2018 - 02:01 PM)

And only Optimus was angry. Hound and Crosshairs were happy jerks. They loved killing because killing gave them pleasure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2018 - 11:54 AM)

It was AoE, they were all jerks.

@  Broadside : (24 April 2018 - 11:09 AM)

I like his design. I think I've entirely blotted his personality out of my memory.

@  Shrug : (24 April 2018 - 06:53 AM)

Thats part of why I like the AoE/TLK bot crew so much. They seem like the angry jerks that'd actually survive in an extended war.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 April 2018 - 01:01 AM)

I dislike him despite the trenchcoat. He's a jerk, and not the lovable kind. One note, and that note is douchebag.

@  Cybersnark : (23 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Honestly, I like him DESPITE the "trenchcoat." I prefer to keep it folded behind him like some Gundam-style flight-pack.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2018 - 11:04 AM)

People really love movieverse Crosshairs sheerly for the sake of his trenchcoat, don't they?

@  Plokatron : (22 April 2018 - 10:17 PM)

@RichardT1977 @TM2-Megatron I'm not normally one to pull the Ruined Forever card but I care less than zip about anything involving the 2017 Power Rangers movie! They screwed it up worse than Bay past DoTM and a Mastodon has four legs not six! While I'm on this mini rant anyone remember the scans of the Super Sentai Mecha book from a while back? Would it be against the rules to ask if anyone knows where to find the new updated book scanned? I really want the Concept Art for ideas.

@  D Immortalis : (22 April 2018 - 03:39 PM)

hot damn...the new From Ashes To New album isfraggin amazing

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:52 PM)

Just a few more days until my Battletech key goes live on GOG...

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:51 PM)

The first Transformers live action film really IS a lot better than what popular culture has made it out to be.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 April 2018 - 08:27 PM)

I dunno if I'd go that far. I enjoyed the first Bayformers more than the MMPR Movie remake

@  RichardT1977 : (21 April 2018 - 08:22 PM)

For the record, it was better than the (live-action) Transformers movies.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 08:21 PM)

No, I wasn't at the krispy kreme when I beat them. Wait, what?

@  Paladin : (21 April 2018 - 08:13 PM)

go back to Krispy Kreme

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 07:08 PM)

I beat five teenagers with attitude before, I can do it again.

@  Pennpenn : (21 April 2018 - 07:02 PM)

Great, after ten thousand years Wonko is free again. Does this mean more Power Rangers are needed? Again?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 April 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Ah, the layer of ice that froze it shut finally melted?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 09:14 AM)

Oh my god! GUYS! It's actually warm enough I was able to open my window!

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 11:14 PM)

Eh, I guess. He did fairly well on his own as an independent in his first appearance and such.

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 10:04 PM)

@Sabrblade Vulture tends to fare poorly as his own boss. Working for a great version of Doc Ock ain't a bad gig... and I did ask if about "bad" as opposed to "not the best". ;)

@  Plokatron : (20 April 2018 - 09:53 PM)

@Egon1982 No my friend Mutator Spiders as in get caught in their web and you are mutated into a even more animalistic creature than you were. Hordika were Half Sentient beings half Wild animal and unlike Spiderman it affected each race slightly differnt with Toa being of a similar mutation to each other. My guess for Spiderman is he would become more spider like but with a inside skeletal structure hmm wonder what Visorak Venom would do to CNA make Dinobot Predacon like monsters or something wild?!

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 04:15 PM)

compared to the "youth-sucking" gimmick from the other series? BIG step up.

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 03:57 PM)

@Otaku: What about that show's take on Vulture? He had potential at first but he eventually just settled into being a lackey rather than his own boss.

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:44 PM)

Did anyone else thought Thunder in Big Trouble in Little China when he was inflating looked like a garbage pail kid before he blew up into salad? I always thought that since seeing the movie in theaters at age 5. 

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:25 PM)

Mutator spiders as in man-spider?

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 11:06 AM)

Shocker was a pretty good villain in The Spectacular Spider-Man animated series. Wait, does that count since I can't think of a bad take on any character from that series? ;)

@  Arazyr : (20 April 2018 - 09:26 AM)

Ontario/Detroit area? Yeah. Supposedly, you could feel it from where I live, but I didn't notice. I never feel these things. 8(

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 07:08 AM)

so that WAS an earthquake last night...

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 09:43 PM)

Webhead Vs. Mutater Spiders. Hmmm I can see this ending badly with HordikaMan Hey maybe it'd make Venom catchable with spider sense.

@  Broadside : (19 April 2018 - 09:16 PM)

Can't wait for Spider-Man to fight the Visorak

@  RichardT1977 : (19 April 2018 - 05:32 PM)

Aw, man!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

SNIPER NO SNIPING

@  Bass X0 : (19 April 2018 - 04:33 PM)

SNIPERER!

@  Paladin : (19 April 2018 - 10:34 AM)

hated that game. damn sniper level's insane.

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 08:21 AM)

You know what's funny? Both Spiderman and Bionicle have a title in common. Web of Shadows. :p

@  Liege : (19 April 2018 - 08:03 AM)

Don't mocks the Shocker!


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Rarity: Does It Make You Like Toys More? And What Do You Have That Is "Rare"?


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#1 Robowang

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:21 AM

So I have this trait in which I tend to care more about a figure when it's harder to find or limited. I know a few of my buddies think that's stupid and that I should just appreciate a figure at face value, but that's just not how my collecting is programmed. For example, I prefer Primal Prime over Optimal Optimus. Optimal's colors are pretty awesome, but he was just...some toy to me when he came out. Primal Prime was this super-limited, hard-to-find figure, and while I do love his appearance, I have to admit, he's just in Prime colors. But guess which one I still own and display! On the flip side, with the massive decrease in worth for a lot of Botcon toys over the last few years, I find myself liking some of them less. The "rarity" factor has decreased knowing that the figure isn't as desirable anymore. I can still look at Double Punch and say "Yeah, that's a pretty figure," but the collector appeal just isn't there for me. (I like his colors enough that I haven't sold him, though.)

 

So my question is this: do YOU feel this way about certain figures that are harder to find? Do you have any "rare" treasures you just love to show off or want to mention? 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:29 AM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:34 AM

*Glances lovingly at his Under-3, TM Claw Jaw, and Ikard/Tako Tank*

Yeah, I think I get that mentality.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:38 AM

I think it definitely applies.

 

No one would care about Stormjet, Spacewarp, green Ramulus, Energon Ultra Magnus, Reverb, most Lucky Draw figures, etc if they weren't rare or canceled figures (baring fiction to come after the fact - like with Spacewarp).

 

I know that I wouldn't care so much about the BAPE Convoys if they weren't rare.  Granted I'd get them, but obviously I like them more than I probably should due to the fact that they're rare and costly.

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

 

TLDR, I definitely think it applies.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:40 AM

Not really. Rarity to me is a boundary. I like toys that are fun and/or nostalgic and/or remind me of favorite characters and/or inspire my imagination. I'm likely to show more care to a rare or valuable item, but only because I don't want to have to replace it.

 

The most expensive toy in my collection is probably the MOTUC Castle Grayskull, and I bought that because I thought it was really frikkin' cool. Along similar lines, I own a copy of Rondo of Blood for PC Engine, and that only because it was my holy grail for more than a decade. 

 

Putting it another way, if I had the scratch, I would never buy a Lucky Draw figure or Stadium Events for NES, because they would bring me no value other than to say that I had a rare thing. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:43 AM

I...don't think so really. Any time I have something that's harder to get I'm usually just more nervous that I'll accidentally break the thing one day.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:44 AM

Rarity's pretty much the only way I can explain people buying chromed Lucky Draw stuff, since you could spend less than half the money and have the damn figure chromed on your own with exactly the same result.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:50 AM

For some people, maybe. For me, definitely not. The end of scarcity is a good. I would like everyone to get access to the stuff I love, so they might love it too.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 AM

This applies to me to some degree.  For a number of years I took great pride in my ownership of a MIB G1 Overlord (until I sold it).  Currently probably my most valuable figure is RiD Brave Max and I like him in part because of his uncommon availability.

 

But I don't really like overpaying for something rare, so I like rarity if I can get it at a reasonable price.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:26 AM

Rarity's pretty much the only way I can explain people buying chromed Lucky Draw stuff, since you could spend less than half the money and have the damn figure chromed on your own with exactly the same result.

Having a shelf of expensive gold transformers is one of those expressions of Trumpian excess.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:27 AM

Is it cool to own something for which there isn't even a picture of in the TFWiki yet?

Sure, but that's not why I picked it up. I just saw a tiny nondescript black & white box, without even a single picture on it, at Botcon sitting amongst a ton of stuff at a Japanese dealer's table at Botcon, and asked a fellow collector if he knew what it was. We were both pleasantly surprised.

Me, because random Speed Racer swag is cool. My compatriot, more likely because uncommon TF swag is cool. I had no idea that this was something special. I just thought it would be cool and fun in the same way I would appreciate a Bot Shot of a beloved character.

Let's just say that it was very fortunate for our friendship that the dealer had more than one, and we both left very happy.

Having a cool random story is way more fun than, "I spent a boatload of money on eBay for this."

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:37 AM

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

This.  

 

To me, owning a rare figure is great and all, but to get a great deal on one is awesome.  For example, my Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are great, but my 99-cent Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are awesome.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:49 AM

It's the opposite for me. If it's rare, I have to worry about how to replace it if it breaks, and that's gotten way more pronounced now that I have kids. I don't need the stress. And I've found that the mass retail toys are more "real" to me. The big thing that got me started as an "adult collector" was the realization that Cyberjets were even more awesome than the Jetfire I'd grown up with, and they were $2.99. I'm in this because I like the idea of something interesting and well-engineered, which serves no useful purpose, and which you can buy with lunch money.

 

I did enjoy having the occasional toy made just for collectors back when that was novel, but at this point that market's way too spoiled to be much fun. I've sold very nearly all of my BotCon toys. I'll admit that part of this is my growing antipathy toward the collector-driven fandom. Plus, owning a lot of stuff that had appreciated in value was pretty helpful during the first few / most expensive years of day care. I got more for SG Rodimus than I got in trade-in for my Nissan.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:14 AM

Yeah, I remember selling off my Botcon 2006 set (the only funpub set I ever got) and buying a tablet with the money. I never once felt an ounce of regret over that sale. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:29 AM

I'm in Canada. They're all rare.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

I don't buy 'em much anymore to be honest with ye. So every purchase now is a special thing. I do like it when they go offbeat with the characters you never even expected to see as a toy again, does that count as rare? Sure it's a mass retail toy, but it's something you'll only really have happen once in a blue moon ie a rare occurrence. Any old year is going to have 5 Bumblebees released, but a Straxus? Now that's rare.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

Generally I like toys more when they're one of my favorite MLP characters, yes. =P

In all seriousness, rarity is a cool bonus to a figure, in the same sense expense is, but it hardly trumps a more enjoyable toy. Botcon Treadshot is cool, but I still love RotF Dunerunner more and I have almoat dozen of that toy.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:45 AM

I think it definitely applies.

 

No one would care about Stormjet, Spacewarp, green Ramulus, Energon Ultra Magnus, Reverb, most Lucky Draw figures, etc if they weren't rare or canceled figures (baring fiction to come after the fact - like with Spacewarp).

 

I know that I wouldn't care so much about the BAPE Convoys if they weren't rare.  Granted I'd get them, but obviously I like them more than I probably should due to the fact that they're rare and costly.

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

 

TLDR, I definitely think it applies.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:53 AM

Rarity helps increase the value in my mind, but it's not the end-all, go-all for why I buy a TF.

 

Some rare ones I buy cus rare, and some, I enjoy cus of rarity, but most of the rare ones, I play with maybe once or twice then plug in a box and never look at it again, cus I'm terrified of wearing it thin by playing with it too much.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:53 AM

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

This.  

 

To me, owning a rare figure is great and all, but to get a great deal on one is awesome.  For example, my Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are great, but my 99-cent Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are awesome.

 

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