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@  Foffy : (24 May 2017 - 11:05 PM)

I mean, a large portion of the status updates are snippets of peoples' twitter accounts...

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 May 2017 - 09:34 PM)

I thought that was the status updates?

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 May 2017 - 09:18 PM)

Wait, I thought Twitter was the P&R shoutbox.

@  Noideaforaname : (24 May 2017 - 06:11 PM)

Nerd talk is infinitely better than P&R talk...

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2017 - 04:30 PM)

Warning: Chatbox subject to spontaneous outbursts of nerd talk

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2017 - 03:50 PM)

Most people should rap their age as a math problem.

@  Foffy : (24 May 2017 - 03:24 PM)

More people should state their age as math problems. I'm nine squared minus sixty-three.

@  Benbot : (24 May 2017 - 03:16 PM)

That's a complicated way of saying you're 20

@  Whirl Maximus : (24 May 2017 - 03:08 PM)

Simpsons movie is ten years old. I'm ten years older.

@  The Doctor Who : (24 May 2017 - 02:48 PM)

Or Facebook

@  Paladin : (24 May 2017 - 02:07 PM)

it's called Tumblr.

@  lastmaximal : (24 May 2017 - 02:04 PM)

Is there a p&r shoutbox?

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2017 - 02:02 PM)

Quote from Facebook (not from me): "Religion is like having a penis. It's all very well and good to be proud of it. Just don't shove it in my face UNLESS I ASK YOU TO!"

@  Rycochet : (24 May 2017 - 11:21 AM)

In an mmmbop they're gone! In an mmm bop they're not there!

@  unluckiness : (24 May 2017 - 08:13 AM)

can't touch this

@  Robowang : (24 May 2017 - 08:09 AM)

It's Skyline time.

@  MEDdMI : (24 May 2017 - 06:28 AM)

It's that time of the month.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 May 2017 - 06:27 AM)

Communist bananas?

@  Pennpenn : (24 May 2017 - 06:25 AM)

Bad sign when bananas go red.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 May 2017 - 10:41 PM)

I read that as "What color are their bannanas"....

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2017 - 05:21 PM)

They're all red.

@  Paladin : (23 May 2017 - 05:20 PM)

what color are their bandanas?

@  MEDdMI : (23 May 2017 - 04:48 PM)

*rescue, though

@  MEDdMI : (23 May 2017 - 04:47 PM)

Hooray, animal rescue! TMM & I have a red-eared slider. Not a resdue,

@  Noideaforaname : (23 May 2017 - 03:26 PM)

@MEDdMI - Me and my teacher both had box turtles. The teach did animal rescue work, so two of her turtles were actually deformed and couldn't be released (one's shell was too large and the other's too small), so they ended up being class pets.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (23 May 2017 - 02:12 PM)

They had regular flat, cereal bowl-type molding at the bottom, so it wasn't much an issue that I can recall.

@  OrionPax44 : (23 May 2017 - 02:10 PM)

How tough is it to clean out those bowls. I'd imagine the nooks and crannies from their spines are tough areas.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (23 May 2017 - 01:47 PM)

I had two of those bowls, Michelangelo and Donatello

@  MEDdMI : (23 May 2017 - 01:46 PM)

Nice. What kind of turtles?

@  Noideaforaname : (23 May 2017 - 01:10 PM)

I had that turtle bowl too. Never did the obvious 'pretend to be Shredder and dine on turtle soup'... but that's because I had a bunch of pet turtles plus I frequently pet-sat a teacher's trio.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2017 - 12:36 PM)

You ate out of a Ninja Turtle? Kinky.

@  NightViper : (23 May 2017 - 12:33 PM)

My bowl didn't just have a picture of a Ninja Turtle, it WAS a Ninja Turtle. And came with a box of Cookie Crisp that I didn't eat.

@  Foffy : (23 May 2017 - 12:31 PM)

My favorite dish is this bowl I had as a kid that had a picture of a Ninja Turtle on it.

@  Robowang : (23 May 2017 - 10:32 AM)

mmm. That's my favorite dish.

@  Bass X0 : (23 May 2017 - 10:06 AM)

like.... Fractured But Whole?

@  MEDdMI : (23 May 2017 - 06:51 AM)

everything sounds dirty

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 May 2017 - 06:49 AM)

why does this sound dirty

@  Bass X0 : (23 May 2017 - 06:05 AM)

Psh. I'm still waiting for Ranma Whole.

@  unluckiness : (23 May 2017 - 05:08 AM)

I'll wait for the sequel series Dragon Whole.

@  Maruten : (23 May 2017 - 04:26 AM)

Can't believe the Dragon Half manga is finally being translated this year.

@  Bass X0 : (23 May 2017 - 03:22 AM)

DRAGON HALF!

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2017 - 09:00 PM)

Xellos...? *looks at avatar pic* speaking of old anime... DRAGON SLAVE!!!

@  Xellos : (22 May 2017 - 08:56 PM)

Yeah, Tylor is awesome. One of the few series (Tylor and Escaflowne) I watched multiple times subtitled. On VHS even. Own two sets of each on DVD (or BD in 2nd Escaflowne's case). Original Tylor DVD and the remastered DVD, and both sets of dubs for Escaflowne (not counting the aborted Saturday morning edit, though I did tape that as it aired).

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 May 2017 - 08:28 PM)

Man, I'm so sad I missed so much of the mid-90s anime. The Irresponsible Captain Tylor is SO MUCH FUN!

@  Paladin : (22 May 2017 - 11:43 AM)

where's GALVATRON in MP form dammit?! he didn't even get in for the anniversary year...

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 May 2017 - 11:35 AM)

I'm still waiting on the rest of the Dinobots.

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 11:24 AM)

The Decepticon MP cassettes are probably my favorite MP figures so far. Fantastic little dudes.

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2017 - 11:23 AM)

I want a Masterpiece Blaster if only because I'm fond of the Masterpiece cassettes and want Takara to make more. They should also do Slugfest and Overkill since they were in the cartoon too, even if it was only very briefly.

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 11:21 AM)

I just want the Chip figure. The only Autobot cars I have or want are G2 Sideswipe and Hot Rod.

@  Paladin : (22 May 2017 - 11:14 AM)

another Autobot car. "yaaaaaay."


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Rarity: Does It Make You Like Toys More? And What Do You Have That Is "Rare"?


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#1 Robowang

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:21 AM

So I have this trait in which I tend to care more about a figure when it's harder to find or limited. I know a few of my buddies think that's stupid and that I should just appreciate a figure at face value, but that's just not how my collecting is programmed. For example, I prefer Primal Prime over Optimal Optimus. Optimal's colors are pretty awesome, but he was just...some toy to me when he came out. Primal Prime was this super-limited, hard-to-find figure, and while I do love his appearance, I have to admit, he's just in Prime colors. But guess which one I still own and display! On the flip side, with the massive decrease in worth for a lot of Botcon toys over the last few years, I find myself liking some of them less. The "rarity" factor has decreased knowing that the figure isn't as desirable anymore. I can still look at Double Punch and say "Yeah, that's a pretty figure," but the collector appeal just isn't there for me. (I like his colors enough that I haven't sold him, though.)

 

So my question is this: do YOU feel this way about certain figures that are harder to find? Do you have any "rare" treasures you just love to show off or want to mention? 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:29 AM

X-9 Ravage certainly fits that bill.  It looks nice, but it's no big upgrade over TM Cheetor and I was just ecstatic to get my hands on it a decade ago because it was so damn hard to get at the time.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:34 AM

*Glances lovingly at his Under-3, TM Claw Jaw, and Ikard/Tako Tank*

Yeah, I think I get that mentality.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:38 AM

I think it definitely applies.

 

No one would care about Stormjet, Spacewarp, green Ramulus, Energon Ultra Magnus, Reverb, most Lucky Draw figures, etc if they weren't rare or canceled figures (baring fiction to come after the fact - like with Spacewarp).

 

I know that I wouldn't care so much about the BAPE Convoys if they weren't rare.  Granted I'd get them, but obviously I like them more than I probably should due to the fact that they're rare and costly.

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

 

TLDR, I definitely think it applies.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:40 AM

Not really. Rarity to me is a boundary. I like toys that are fun and/or nostalgic and/or remind me of favorite characters and/or inspire my imagination. I'm likely to show more care to a rare or valuable item, but only because I don't want to have to replace it.

 

The most expensive toy in my collection is probably the MOTUC Castle Grayskull, and I bought that because I thought it was really frikkin' cool. Along similar lines, I own a copy of Rondo of Blood for PC Engine, and that only because it was my holy grail for more than a decade. 

 

Putting it another way, if I had the scratch, I would never buy a Lucky Draw figure or Stadium Events for NES, because they would bring me no value other than to say that I had a rare thing. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:43 AM

I...don't think so really. Any time I have something that's harder to get I'm usually just more nervous that I'll accidentally break the thing one day.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:44 AM

Rarity's pretty much the only way I can explain people buying chromed Lucky Draw stuff, since you could spend less than half the money and have the damn figure chromed on your own with exactly the same result.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:50 AM

For some people, maybe. For me, definitely not. The end of scarcity is a good. I would like everyone to get access to the stuff I love, so they might love it too.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:05 AM

This applies to me to some degree.  For a number of years I took great pride in my ownership of a MIB G1 Overlord (until I sold it).  Currently probably my most valuable figure is RiD Brave Max and I like him in part because of his uncommon availability.

 

But I don't really like overpaying for something rare, so I like rarity if I can get it at a reasonable price.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:26 AM

Rarity's pretty much the only way I can explain people buying chromed Lucky Draw stuff, since you could spend less than half the money and have the damn figure chromed on your own with exactly the same result.

Having a shelf of expensive gold transformers is one of those expressions of Trumpian excess.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:27 AM

Is it cool to own something for which there isn't even a picture of in the TFWiki yet?

Sure, but that's not why I picked it up. I just saw a tiny nondescript black & white box, without even a single picture on it, at Botcon sitting amongst a ton of stuff at a Japanese dealer's table at Botcon, and asked a fellow collector if he knew what it was. We were both pleasantly surprised.

Me, because random Speed Racer swag is cool. My compatriot, more likely because uncommon TF swag is cool. I had no idea that this was something special. I just thought it would be cool and fun in the same way I would appreciate a Bot Shot of a beloved character.

Let's just say that it was very fortunate for our friendship that the dealer had more than one, and we both left very happy.

Having a cool random story is way more fun than, "I spent a boatload of money on eBay for this."

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:37 AM

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

This.  

 

To me, owning a rare figure is great and all, but to get a great deal on one is awesome.  For example, my Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are great, but my 99-cent Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are awesome.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:49 AM

It's the opposite for me. If it's rare, I have to worry about how to replace it if it breaks, and that's gotten way more pronounced now that I have kids. I don't need the stress. And I've found that the mass retail toys are more "real" to me. The big thing that got me started as an "adult collector" was the realization that Cyberjets were even more awesome than the Jetfire I'd grown up with, and they were $2.99. I'm in this because I like the idea of something interesting and well-engineered, which serves no useful purpose, and which you can buy with lunch money.

 

I did enjoy having the occasional toy made just for collectors back when that was novel, but at this point that market's way too spoiled to be much fun. I've sold very nearly all of my BotCon toys. I'll admit that part of this is my growing antipathy toward the collector-driven fandom. Plus, owning a lot of stuff that had appreciated in value was pretty helpful during the first few / most expensive years of day care. I got more for SG Rodimus than I got in trade-in for my Nissan.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:14 AM

Yeah, I remember selling off my Botcon 2006 set (the only funpub set I ever got) and buying a tablet with the money. I never once felt an ounce of regret over that sale. 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:29 AM

I'm in Canada. They're all rare.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

I don't buy 'em much anymore to be honest with ye. So every purchase now is a special thing. I do like it when they go offbeat with the characters you never even expected to see as a toy again, does that count as rare? Sure it's a mass retail toy, but it's something you'll only really have happen once in a blue moon ie a rare occurrence. Any old year is going to have 5 Bumblebees released, but a Straxus? Now that's rare.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

Generally I like toys more when they're one of my favorite MLP characters, yes. =P

In all seriousness, rarity is a cool bonus to a figure, in the same sense expense is, but it hardly trumps a more enjoyable toy. Botcon Treadshot is cool, but I still love RotF Dunerunner more and I have almoat dozen of that toy.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:45 AM

I think it definitely applies.

 

No one would care about Stormjet, Spacewarp, green Ramulus, Energon Ultra Magnus, Reverb, most Lucky Draw figures, etc if they weren't rare or canceled figures (baring fiction to come after the fact - like with Spacewarp).

 

I know that I wouldn't care so much about the BAPE Convoys if they weren't rare.  Granted I'd get them, but obviously I like them more than I probably should due to the fact that they're rare and costly.

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

 

TLDR, I definitely think it applies.

 

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YES. Getting a good deal on something makes it even better!

 

I recently won a bunch of less-than-current-eBay-value auctions with the intentions of reselling at a profit. I made enough profit on the rest of the stuff that I got to keep G1 Metalhawk, Deathsaurus, and Dinoking for free! (And they are complete and gorgeous...with boxes!) 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:53 AM

Rarity helps increase the value in my mind, but it's not the end-all, go-all for why I buy a TF.

 

Some rare ones I buy cus rare, and some, I enjoy cus of rarity, but most of the rare ones, I play with maybe once or twice then plug in a box and never look at it again, cus I'm terrified of wearing it thin by playing with it too much.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:53 AM

 

I definitely think you can also factor in whether someone got a good deal on a rare figure for increasing how much someone likes it.  If I paid $1,000 and not $50 for Spacewarp.  I certainly wouldn't like her as much as I do.  :D  Or if I caved and bought Stormjet off of eBay for $30 instead of $12 at KB Toys, I'd probably not like him as much either.  :D

This.  

 

To me, owning a rare figure is great and all, but to get a great deal on one is awesome.  For example, my Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are great, but my 99-cent Beast Wars X-2 Diver and VS-X1 Snapper vs. Armor Volcano set are awesome.

 

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THAT is amazing. Nice scores! Was this a long time ago or something more recent? 


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