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@  wonko the sane? : (18 November 2017 - 08:37 AM)

You won't be at school or work anymore... so mitigated success.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2017 - 05:21 PM)

Just don't try to plug yourself into an outlet. It won't end well.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM)

Trying to stay awake at work or school is a lot like using your controller when it's on low battery

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

If you're used to doing it with tabs, that makes sense. It doesn't feel weird for me.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Also, it just feels weird if switching between webpages uses the same actions as switching between programs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I switch between different things on the browser and click on various plugins and stuff far more often than switching from program to program.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:19 AM)

Yeah I'm mostly just venting from frustration rather than trying to convince anyone, though @NotVeryNightly I will point out that the windows for the other programs I'm running are at the bottom of the screen as well.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Tabs are on the top, near the address bar, browser tools, plugins and whatnot so the cursor will be there frequently anyway. Switching windows would require going down the screen.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 10:03 AM)

I mean, you do you. No bigs. You've just got a fairly unique stance that surprised me.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM)

I haven't seen words on the bottom bar of the screen since XP.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM)

All of which is put on the point that I don't care if people want to use tabs, I just want the option to not have them present for me on my browser.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:12 AM)

@Shrug- A quick glance at the bottom of the screen shows me what is open and where. Load times are basically so trivial that the load indicator on a tab is something I didn't notice until you mentioned it. The "which instance is playing noise" is a fair point but has basically only really been approaching meaningful for me maybe twice in all the time tabs have existed.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:07 AM)

@NotveryKnightly- I have never encountered a situation where that is true, especially given that tabs are on the other side of the screen to the other things I'm switching through.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:06 AM)

@ Nevermore- The windows at the bottom have the names of the websites on them, presuming you don't collapse them.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:08 AM)

Geez, this is reminding me of the awful pre-tab days.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

I can look at the tab to see if it hasn't finished loading yet. Now you can see which tab is playing sound, so no need to hunt through windows to find a video ad that started playing.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And a quick glance lets me know whats open and where. No clicking multiple windows hunting for something. No waiting for some window preview to pop up (which wasn't available when tabs first started.)

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Switching between tabs is way quicker than between windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:09 AM)

It's like having a clear structore with sub-directores, instead of just having all files on your computer stored in one giant directory.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:08 AM)

This way, I can switch between windows and then select the tab, instead of always trying to remember which window is for which website.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:07 AM)

I find one browser window with multiple tabs a lot easier to handle alongside other windows than multiple browser windows alongside other windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

I find multiple tabs a lot more comfortable than multiple windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

erm... no?

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 03:26 AM)

On mobile devices and whatever I understand why tabs would be a thing, but on a full desktop browser it's just- "Hey, here's a thing that's kind of like opening a new window, but objectively worse in every practical way"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 November 2017 - 01:41 AM)

Someone remind me again: which versions of the CW Hot Spot mold did not suffer from bad hip ratcheting?

@  BlackMax : (16 November 2017 - 06:33 PM)

Holy crap I just pushed the F11 key for the first time on a keyboard since about 1994.

@  Shrug : (16 November 2017 - 01:11 PM)

tabs being wretched bs is definitely an opinion I've never seen before

@  RC85747 : (16 November 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Vivaldi lets you hide the tab bar

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 07:45 AM)

Yeah but that gets rid of everything else as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 November 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Hit F11 Pennpenn

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:15 AM)

I get that people like tabs. Fine. Whatever. I just detest the fact that most current browsers don't let you have the option of just hiding the bar away so I don't have to even think about the wretched bullshit things.

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a browser that doesn't force tabs on you? Just... any sodding browser that doesn't have tabs.

@  Telly : (16 November 2017 - 01:59 AM)

being mostly wrong is better than being TOTALLY wrong!

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 09:26 PM)

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED OCTOBUTT.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 08:24 PM)

I really hope so. All of my high school drawings and notes (Hand-written notes! God, I'm old.) from girls are in a chest in the attic of my parents house. I'll check when I visit!

@  MEDdMI : (15 November 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Do you still have those drawings?

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 06:31 PM)

I think lesbian ninjas is just an unmitigated good idea. *shrug*

@  Devcon : (15 November 2017 - 05:56 PM)

well, that and Balloon Doggies, Mr secretary

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM)

It's my crowning Allspark achievement! You're welcome.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:05 PM)

"Someone" being me. No mystery to it, I used to draw a lot during class when I was in high school. I came up with lesbian ninjas, which were a specialized team of assassins with amazing hair and impeccable style. I scanned some of my drawings and mentioned them a few times on the ezboard 17 years ago, and people seemed to like the idea.

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Thanks in any case!

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Oh, wow. That is ages ago. 

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:03 PM)

ages ago meaning when the spark was still on ezboard

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:02 PM)

i think maybe it was part of a title of a movie someone posted ages ago and the "lesbian ninja" part stood out and people just latched on to it. please note this is possibly totally and completely wrong cause my memory is terrible anymore

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 12:11 PM)

I don't think it's a fandom thing, I think it's an Allspark thing. Or that's been my perception. Mayhem has some lesbian ninja regulars now but I think the reference is much older. = ] 

@  Robowang : (15 November 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Who knows. I always thought it was stupid.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

What is this fandom's deal with lesbian ninjas? Is it some fantheory about Nightbird or something?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 November 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Huh my phone didn't even alert me for some reason. Guess it only does on the Mayhem Discord Hangouts??

@  BlackMax : (14 November 2017 - 09:41 PM)

Telly, you are FIRED as my PR agent. :D

@  Telly : (14 November 2017 - 09:05 PM)

you all dont know what you missed. there was fun. there were games. lesbian ninjas. tang and even a couple human sacrifices.


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#1161 LV!

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 01:04 PM

Yeah, and he might be taller than Hot Rod - I haven't done any comparing, but the over-time decrease in sizes could mean Hot Rod is just a normal trilogy-era Deluxe height.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 03:08 PM

Yeah, and he might be taller than Hot Rod - I haven't done any comparing, but the over-time decrease in sizes could mean Hot Rod is just a normal trilogy-era Deluxe height.

He's about the same as Sideways from RotF, at any rate.


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:16 AM

I've fiddled with Hot Rod more.  He didn't wow me on first impression, but the fact that he transforms so well won me over.  Unfortunately I still can't get his driver side arm to peg in.  I've scraped away a little plastic from the slot the tab goes in, but I'm afraid to do too much for fear of going too far and it never staying tabbed in for being too loose.



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:35 AM

The arm snaps into place in three places (tab on leg, slot on front near bumper, tiny little nub that goes by the side window bit in the back).  Is it getting caught somewhere?

 

I think the thing I enjoy about Hot Rod is that it's some kind of engineering game of telephone, if the phone used a couple parts from the prior one.  I mean, he's probably 80% new figure, using 100% of AoE Lockdown's engineering with some extra bits added on top, when AoE Lockdown was a wholesale, if mildly simplified (ie, dropped the panel kibble) use of DotM Roadbuster's engineering.  Hot Rod is three movies' worth of design crammed in one figure.


Edited by Spark, 04 October 2017 - 09:35 AM.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:01 AM

I still can't understand why he has Lockdown's shins and feet, though.



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:05 AM

Keeping them probably kept the figure within the budget.

 

Personally I'd buy a 3rd-party kit that let you swap them for something more accurate to the movie's design along with his time-stop gun. They're on a mushroom peg, so it's not like it'd be hard to do.


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:11 AM

It doesn't seem reasonable that Lockdown had an entire metal tool set for just his lower legs, so it's hard for me to imagine how it impacted the budget when they had to cut tools for 80% of a new toy in the first place. If he reused a whole dark sprue, sure. But this? This is just nonsensical.



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:24 AM

I still can't understand why he has Lockdown's shins and feet, though.

Yeah, after getting the thing, me neither.  Hot Rod only uses about seven other parts off of Lockdown, and those are all internal bits cast in the same gray plastic... then suddenly totally weird lower legs.  I'd be less irked by it if he'd had TLK Hot Rod's actual sneaker-looking feet instead of Lockdown's weird insectoid things.

 

Keeping them probably kept the figure within the budget.

 

Personally I'd buy a 3rd-party kit that let you swap them for something more accurate to the movie's design along with his time-stop gun. They're on a mushroom peg, so it's not like it'd be hard to do.

I'd be all over that if the gun can be stored inside the car.


Edited by Spark, 04 October 2017 - 10:24 AM.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:38 AM

The arm snaps into place in three places (tab on leg, slot on front near bumper, tiny little nub that goes by the side window bit in the back).  Is it getting caught somewhere?

 

I think the thing I enjoy about Hot Rod is that it's some kind of engineering game of telephone, if the phone used a couple parts from the prior one.  I mean, he's probably 80% new figure, using 100% of AoE Lockdown's engineering with some extra bits added on top, when AoE Lockdown was a wholesale, if mildly simplified (ie, dropped the panel kibble) use of DotM Roadbuster's engineering.  Hot Rod is three movies' worth of design crammed in one figure.

Yeah, everything else pegs in flush.  The slot is just a little irregular compared to the one on the other side.  I eventually evened out the affected side enough that the tab finally went in.  Inspecting it after removing the tab, there are now tiny little stress marks on 3 of the corners of the slot.  It seems the slot just had the tiniest bit too much plastic.



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 04:50 PM

So I just found this while randomly searching Walmart's website for "Saturn Rings", Hot Rod's code name:
https://www.walmart....Rings/564097645

EDIT: A search for the UPC barcode turned up an Amazon listing as well:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075LFCL6H
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That's a listing for Legion Hot Rod in regular The Last Knight packaging, just like the Deluxe Hot Rod listed at Amazon and Target.

This is a separate listing, complete with different stock photos, than the Walmart exclusive version in "Autobots Unite" packaging... so basically, same deal as Hot Rod:
https://www.walmart....t-Rod/794968972
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Edited by Nevermore, 04 October 2017 - 05:33 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 05 October 2017 - 05:36 AM

I have frontpaged your report, Nevermore. As always, thanks for the information!


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 05:06 PM

I have frontpaged your report, Nevermore. As always, thanks for the information!


What's worth noting is that Walmart is listing the general retail version as well!

There are three listings:

Exclusive version at Walmart
General retail version at Walmart (separate listing)
General retail version at Amazon

Edited by Nevermore, 05 October 2017 - 05:07 PM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:39 AM

Just thought I'd point this out in case someone ever notices it and the question pops up:

Reveal the Shield Voyager Optimus Prime was released in the UK as an Argos exclusive like the rest of the RTS subline. In the US, the subline was originally exclusive to Target, but Voyager Prime ended up as a TRU exclusive instead.

The weirdest part, though, is that the TRU US release is lacking the "Reveal the Shield" logo in the lower left corner of the packaging which the European (UK Argos exclusive) version has:
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Voyager Prime was also released in Asia in the same packaging as the US TRU release (i.e. lacking the "Reveal the Shield" logo), just minus the TRU sticker.

Edited by Nevermore, 11 October 2017 - 07:41 AM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:13 PM

Packaging oddities aside, my local TRU seems to haven't gotten another case of these.  There's a tiny mountain of probably ten of them, and priced absurdly at $39.99, which can't possibly be right.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:27 PM

So this week for the first time I saw Nitro at my local Target. Standard TLK voyager price of $29.99. Which prompts me to wonder: what price has everyone else lucky enough to find him seen?


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:30 PM

I got mine for the $26.XX Walmart charges.  I got super lucky and found mine 2 months ago while on vacation though.  It's only recently started hitting Walmarts in my area.  Well, I mean, I've seen the odd Scorn left behind anyways.

Only TLK toy I've paid MSRP or more on was importing Calibur Prime.  Which then promptly dropped in price like 50 bucks.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 02:06 PM

Yeah, I nabbed two Nitros for $26.86 each at Wal-mart.

 

I've also seen him for $29.99 at Target twice now.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 02:18 PM

I saw a Nitro for $26something at Walmart this weekend, but I was looking for Overlord. 



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 04:08 PM

Hot Rod is now also listed as part of the general retail Legion assortment at NDA Toys:
https://www.nda-toys...-asst-wholesale
"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:55 AM

Wowza. I just opened up an AoE Lockdown (I know, I said I was going to skip the mold, but it was so dang cheap) and it'd amazing how much better Hot Rod is.

As someone who experienced them backwards, I completely get why people were so upset Hot Rod was just a Lockdown retool. Hot Rod actually ends up being a downright good toy, but I wouldn't have expected that at all if I had messed with Lockdown first.

Freaking kudos to whoever did the work on Lockdown -> Hot Rod



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