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@  unluckiness : (22 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nah, they could tell by the lack of the very distinctive dialogue delivery. They just didn't want to be mean.

@  Dracula : (22 August 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Moon base is fine. I knew the castle was a total loss so I gave Olrox my best cape and told him he could have the throne room. The damn belmonts couldn't tell the difference

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 06:39 AM)

It's probably because that's a direct quote rather than an attempt to self censor

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 August 2017 - 06:26 AM)

"shit" isn't filtered anymore

@  Donocropolis : (22 August 2017 - 05:51 AM)

Elvis doesn't do sh*t.

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 03:38 AM)

Fine, though Elvis has a bit of a headache.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 August 2017 - 03:27 AM)

How's his moon base?

@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever


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#41 Broadside

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:11 PM

Hmm. If we do decide to incorporate Machine Robo into this, maybe it'd be an idea to use TFWiki-style suites to link between the GoBots and their Machine Robo counterparts.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:33 PM

Their Machine Robo counterparts, not to be confused with their Robo Machine counterparts.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:35 PM

I'd be for suites. If you're looking for what your Hans Cuff toy got up to, you'll want to easily see what he did as Hans Cuff, as whoever he was on Cronos, as one of Ex-El's troops in the Robo Machines comic that ran in Eagle, etc. It should all be linked.

Machine Robo continued after Go-Bots, in a way that Diaclone didn't really continue after Transformers. They've fed back and forth, and you've got stuff like Robo Machines that uses the Gobot faction lines but the MR names. That's my argument for including Machine Robo, for whatever it's worth.

I'm not convinced we want real detail on the Fun Pub era stuff beyond a link, largely because the duplication seems wasteful. Also, I'm wary of the Transformers content overpowering the Gobot originated stuff, particularly since this is going to be run by TF fans.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:50 PM

I'm not convinced we want real detail on the Fun Pub era stuff beyond a link, largely because the duplication seems wasteful. Also, I'm wary of the Transformers content overpowering the Gobot originated stuff, particularly since this is going to be run by TF fans.

 

Well, there's the issue of the "Season 2" stuff from FP that's not on the wiki, on top of all the various didn't-happen-in-a-TF-universe stuff mentioned on Facebook. That needs to be considered.

 

Again, the idea is a GB wiki can't be approached the same as a TF wiki, and here's one of the smaller but significant differences. We don't NEED to try and sum up Cy-Kill with a characterization writeup that has to take into account a ton of different takes, as we have to with so many G1 guys. You really only got the one. A clean delineation is much easier to make because there is so little to split. You can very easily make the two-decades-later "Fun Publications" or "Transformers" or whatever stuff a fully-separate h3-level header or whatever and put the relevant additions there.

 

 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

We definitely want to cover Renegade Rhetoric the same way we covered ANN and AVP.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

If you want general spellchecking, that's all I can do. But I want to contribute because I love the idea of a wiki being created partially out of spite.



#47 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

It's only spite if you set it to IP block the people who asked / cheated for it on TFWiki and Tumblr.

Which I support doing.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:38 PM

...No.


 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:39 PM

Well I mean I don't have a history with the guy one way or the other but I'm certain Ignash is going to show up at some point.
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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:04 PM

Who is Ignash?

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:08 PM

I heard he's the guy who put the scar on Walky's forehead. 



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:17 PM

Ironic how GoBots was a Tonka property, now Hasbro has bought Tonka.

 

Does this mean crossovers or what?



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:35 PM

Ironic how GoBots was a Tonka property, now Hasbro has bought Tonka.
 
Does this mean crossovers or what?


Hasbro bought Tonka YEARS ago. There have BEEN crossovers. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/GoBots

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 10:07 PM

Who is Ignash?

He's the reason TFWiki exists, in the same way that the guy who shot Bruce Wayne's parents is the reason Batman exists.

(TFWiki's parents were the potential for Transformers articles on Wikipedia to ever be competently written.)

(I guess the IDW Hasbro Wiki and the GoBots Wiki are various Robins in this analogy. Hopefully neither of them is Jason Todd.)

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:24 PM

IDW Hasbro is Dick Grayson. I have a feeling GoBots could be Barbara Gordon.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:35 PM

So he's going to kick down the door and permanently disable it?
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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:47 PM

If there's one thing from the Fun Pub Facebook fiction that I feel should absolutely be taken into consideration for coverage of the Hanna-Barbera cartoon, it's the episode order presented in this Facebook post, as the original airdate order makes no sense whatsoever (outside of the five-part pilot) with its haphazard placements of "Lost on Gobotron", the five parts of the Gobotron Saga, "Nova Beam", "Cy-Kill's Cataclysmic Trap",  "Doppleganger", "The GoBots That Time Forgot",  and "Mission: Gobotron". And the production order is even more disastrous.

 

Conversely, the "optimal viewing order" on the Facebook post provides the most coherent flow of something resembling a continuity narrative.


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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:52 PM

Gotta love the help uber-nerds like Jim can provide.



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:54 PM

So he's going to kick down the door and permanently disable it?

Not if Ignash is Joe Chill in this scenario. 



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 12:00 AM

Gotta love the help uber-nerds like Jim can provide.

Truth be told, the placements for "Lost on Gobotron" and "Doppleganger" were my suggestions (as the list originally had them in their airing order slots in the list's original typing before it was edited into its current revision), but all the rest of everything else was all Jim's awesome handiwork. :thumbsup :love


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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