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@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 09:01 PM)

True, but IIRC Spike had more screen time during Costa's run.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 07:31 PM)

AHM deserves some of the blame for Spike, McCarthy was the one who made him the unlikeable army guy in the first place and had Optimus go 'Oh Spike, you're so manly, earth needs you. We should totally be best friends now!' 'No, it doesn't matter how hard you fought to save Earth or how many of your own kind were killed offpanel, we can never be friends with you so begone! Now, if you don't mind, I have a prisoner of war to drive about in and nurses to boink.'

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 06:05 PM)

AHM was bad, yeah, but I feel Costa was worse. Spike is the absolute worst character in the IDW comics, which really sucks since I like cartoon Spike.

@  Dracula : (27 March 2017 - 05:22 PM)

I haven't read AHM but as I understand it's very "story beats taken from Budiansky bios"

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 05:18 PM)

was referring more to how he was suspected of being a traitor in g1. and dreamwave. and 2001 rid. it was sarcastic, hence the :rolleyes  lol

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 05:10 PM)

Don't expect major events to be forshadowed.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:57 PM)

wow! what a twist! mirage is suspected of being a traitor! :rolleyes

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:49 PM)

yeah im only on issue 4 and its only been like 30 minutes since i started. lots of splash pages and very little dialog

@  unitremover : (27 March 2017 - 04:47 PM)

I read it for the first time about a year ago and my main problem with it was just how little content there seemed to be in the individual issues. I remember thinking that it took probably three issues before I felt like it had really delivered a "proper" issue's worth of story.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:33 PM)

id rather read about the galaxy-wide war than yet another story on earth. thats one of the things i loved about formerly r.i.d. but when they went back before combiner wars i lost interest. i read til all are one because of this.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 04:24 PM)

It's one of those stories that gets slightly better with age because you know that IDW comics recover, but at the time it was a massive step back, a complex universe where the war was being fought across the galaxy swept away offpanel and replaced by n episode of the cartoon with blood..And there's a fan character we were told we were going to love, inserted to lecture the Autobots.

@  Bass X0 : (27 March 2017 - 04:12 PM)

Its not a bad story really, but then I've read actual bad TF event stories by IDW that came later. There is one major turnabout that happens off panel with no explanation that should have been addressed better though.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:08 PM)

im about to start reading all hail megatron. wish me luck...

@  RC85747 : (27 March 2017 - 03:56 PM)

Bow to the evil unicorn

@  RichardT1977 : (27 March 2017 - 03:55 PM)

The G1 film had multiple good songs.

@  Dracula : (27 March 2017 - 03:37 PM)

he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed

@  Robowang : (27 March 2017 - 03:36 PM)

he's fat.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 March 2017 - 02:39 PM)

What do y'all think of Shrek?

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 01:51 PM)

Put down that chainsaw and listen to me! It's time for us to join in the fight!

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 01:51 PM)

At least the G1 film had one good song.

@  Boomhauer : (27 March 2017 - 01:27 PM)

I think I'd rather take neither, because ROTF being awful doesn't magically make the G1 Film stop being terrible.

@  Bass X0 : (27 March 2017 - 12:56 PM)

I'll take a children's movie where everyone talks like Wreck-Gar over a children's movie that has dog sex, masturbation, drugs, golden showers and enemy scrotum.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Oh-ee-yay! Talespin!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Superman.....

@  Sabrblade : (27 March 2017 - 09:27 AM)

"I... am not... a gun."

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Another great 90's animated film is, of course, The Iron Giant.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Another thing I liked about The Prince of Egypt was that it explained (without even having to say it outright) why Moses was chosen to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. Someone who had been raised among the slaves would have had too much bitterness and would want to go in throwing the wrath of God on all the Egyptians (or at least the royal family) until they all burned alive. But Moses had been raised as a member of the royal family, so he still thought of them as family. He wanted to reach a peaceful solution if at all possible.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:04 PM)

"I know! I'll turn him into a flea. A harmless little flea, and then I'll put that flea in a box, and then put that box inside of another box, and when it arrives - AHAHAHA! I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH! It's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT, I tell you! Genius, I say!"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:03 PM)

Hell, The Emperor's New Groove is easily the funniest animated film ever. Disney managed to do what Dreamworks tried to do, and they did it right.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

None of their "funny" movies are anywhere near as funny as Aladdin or The Emperor's New Groove.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Its a pity Dreamworks devolved into a company that churned out "funny" films filled with pop culture references.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:00 PM)

(also at the end of that scene, the camera pans up from the Egyptian skyline to the night sky and the most prominent constellation is Orion. Which the Egyptians associated with Osiris)

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

Yeah I give them full credit for treating the Last Plague with all the solemness it deserves.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

It freed the Israelites, but Moses sure hated seeing what it did to his brother and all the normal non-slave owning people who didn't do anything wrong to the Israelites.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:58 PM)

And it actually portrays God murdering children as a tragic thing, something most other adaptations disturbingly don't do.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

So that what He told Moses becomes, "I'll lay the smackdown on Egypt, but I should warn you it's only gonna make Rameses dig in his heels more until I have no choice but to break him fully."

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:56 PM)

It also describes the "hardening of the Pharoah's heart" as his natural reaction to the plagues rather than an intentional mental override by God.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:54 PM)

Hell, it actually portrays the Plagues as something that's bad and treats most of the Egyptian people as not deserving that shit. "All the innocent who suffer from your stubbornness and pride" and all that.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I'm a Christian, but Prince of Egypt is one of the few religious movies I'll willingly watch, because it's actually good instead of being self-rightous preachy nonsense, batshit crazy propaganda or schmaltzy trash. It also has a great soundtrack with music that I actually put up there with some of Disney's best stuff.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:45 PM)

Dreamworks's best movies will always be the Dragons movies and The Prince of Egypt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Usually I'm willing to give animated films a go, but I have to agree this looked pretty terrible and I had no desire to see it

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

So it's the new "Bee Movie?"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:16 PM)

Calling it now: it'll be a meme in ten years.

@  Paladin : (26 March 2017 - 02:07 PM)

every single person who said "yes" to BOSS BABY should be smacked. repeatedly. with adamantium.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 06:02 AM)

Yeah, I don't sync my Twitter since it's irrelevant to a TF forum and sometimes NSFW.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 06:00 AM)

Ah, okay. I... don't know if that's a good idea or not. I post a lot of cats.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:50 AM)

I believe it will auto post anything you put on Twitter/Facebook to the Status section on the main forum page?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:41 AM)

And I totally miss Krispy Kreme. I mean, they're still around here, but nowhere I don't have to go well out of my way for any more. =(

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:40 AM)

"i think you can sync profiles from both to this site." Not clear on what that means.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

:D I'm glad I have people and sheep who are willing to eat doughnuts for me.


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#41 Broadside

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:11 PM

Hmm. If we do decide to incorporate Machine Robo into this, maybe it'd be an idea to use TFWiki-style suites to link between the GoBots and their Machine Robo counterparts.



#42 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:33 PM

Their Machine Robo counterparts, not to be confused with their Robo Machine counterparts.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:35 PM

I'd be for suites. If you're looking for what your Hans Cuff toy got up to, you'll want to easily see what he did as Hans Cuff, as whoever he was on Cronos, as one of Ex-El's troops in the Robo Machines comic that ran in Eagle, etc. It should all be linked.

Machine Robo continued after Go-Bots, in a way that Diaclone didn't really continue after Transformers. They've fed back and forth, and you've got stuff like Robo Machines that uses the Gobot faction lines but the MR names. That's my argument for including Machine Robo, for whatever it's worth.

I'm not convinced we want real detail on the Fun Pub era stuff beyond a link, largely because the duplication seems wasteful. Also, I'm wary of the Transformers content overpowering the Gobot originated stuff, particularly since this is going to be run by TF fans.

#44 M Sipher

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:50 PM

I'm not convinced we want real detail on the Fun Pub era stuff beyond a link, largely because the duplication seems wasteful. Also, I'm wary of the Transformers content overpowering the Gobot originated stuff, particularly since this is going to be run by TF fans.

 

Well, there's the issue of the "Season 2" stuff from FP that's not on the wiki, on top of all the various didn't-happen-in-a-TF-universe stuff mentioned on Facebook. That needs to be considered.

 

Again, the idea is a GB wiki can't be approached the same as a TF wiki, and here's one of the smaller but significant differences. We don't NEED to try and sum up Cy-Kill with a characterization writeup that has to take into account a ton of different takes, as we have to with so many G1 guys. You really only got the one. A clean delineation is much easier to make because there is so little to split. You can very easily make the two-decades-later "Fun Publications" or "Transformers" or whatever stuff a fully-separate h3-level header or whatever and put the relevant additions there.

 

 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

We definitely want to cover Renegade Rhetoric the same way we covered ANN and AVP.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

If you want general spellchecking, that's all I can do. But I want to contribute because I love the idea of a wiki being created partially out of spite.



#47 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

It's only spite if you set it to IP block the people who asked / cheated for it on TFWiki and Tumblr.

Which I support doing.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:38 PM

...No.


 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:39 PM

Well I mean I don't have a history with the guy one way or the other but I'm certain Ignash is going to show up at some point.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:04 PM

Who is Ignash?

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:08 PM

I heard he's the guy who put the scar on Walky's forehead. 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:17 PM

Ironic how GoBots was a Tonka property, now Hasbro has bought Tonka.

 

Does this mean crossovers or what?



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:35 PM

Ironic how GoBots was a Tonka property, now Hasbro has bought Tonka.
 
Does this mean crossovers or what?


Hasbro bought Tonka YEARS ago. There have BEEN crossovers. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/GoBots

#54 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 10:07 PM

Who is Ignash?

He's the reason TFWiki exists, in the same way that the guy who shot Bruce Wayne's parents is the reason Batman exists.

(TFWiki's parents were the potential for Transformers articles on Wikipedia to ever be competently written.)

(I guess the IDW Hasbro Wiki and the GoBots Wiki are various Robins in this analogy. Hopefully neither of them is Jason Todd.)

Edited by ▲ndrusi, 04 January 2017 - 10:10 PM.


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#55 DanielAdkins

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:24 PM

IDW Hasbro is Dick Grayson. I have a feeling GoBots could be Barbara Gordon.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:35 PM

So he's going to kick down the door and permanently disable it?

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:47 PM

If there's one thing from the Fun Pub Facebook fiction that I feel should absolutely be taken into consideration for coverage of the Hanna-Barbera cartoon, it's the episode order presented in this Facebook post, as the original airdate order makes no sense whatsoever (outside of the five-part pilot) with its haphazard placements of "Lost on Gobotron", the five parts of the Gobotron Saga, "Nova Beam", "Cy-Kill's Cataclysmic Trap",  "Doppleganger", "The GoBots That Time Forgot",  and "Mission: Gobotron". And the production order is even more disastrous.

 

Conversely, the "optimal viewing order" on the Facebook post provides the most coherent flow of something resembling a continuity narrative.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:52 PM

Gotta love the help uber-nerds like Jim can provide.



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:54 PM

So he's going to kick down the door and permanently disable it?

Not if Ignash is Joe Chill in this scenario. 



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 12:00 AM

Gotta love the help uber-nerds like Jim can provide.

Truth be told, the placements for "Lost on Gobotron" and "Doppleganger" were my suggestions (as the list originally had them in their airing order slots in the list's original typing before it was edited into its current revision), but all the rest of everything else was all Jim's awesome handiwork. :thumbsup :love


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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