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@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 05:28 PM)

And a better headsculpt.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 05:23 PM)

It actually has half decent gimmicks too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 04:03 PM)

It's still crap but at least it takes up less space.

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 10:31 AM)

I'd rather have Armada Sideswipe than Alternator Sideswipe.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 June 2017 - 09:50 AM)

What he's really doing is buying all the sideswipe, so that after the apocolypse.. He'll have an army to take ove the world!

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 09:00 AM)

We could be taking this the wrong way. What if this person means to sacrifice their own money to prevent Armada Sideswipes from falling into the hands of those who don't know better?

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 06:26 AM)

People say silly things online all the time, usually followed by a smilie or a wink. Take away the context and they go from being a joke to absurd hyperbole.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 06:07 AM)

But that would miss the entire point of hyperbole.

@  Pennpenn : (24 June 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Well that's a stupid attitude from someone who would waste a lot of money. I mean, they should just... not buy movie toys?

@  Bass X0 : (24 June 2017 - 04:52 AM)

Most insane thing I read of the day: "I would rather buy 100 Armada Sideswipes and PRiD Airachnids than buy any Bayformers crap"

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:10 PM)

His dialogue is full of allusions to his infamous lookalike, though sometimes as subversions. Oh, and sometimes he sings Karaoke. Check his rendition of "My Way", it's on Youtube.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:09 PM)

The entire idea behind the character is that he looks and talks like Hitler, but is actually a good guy. Maybe with a dickish attitude, but he's not the villain.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Alfons Hatler is a supporting character from a German Edgar Wallace parody movie and its sequel.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:07 PM)

I'd like to remind everyone that Alfons Hatler exists, which is all sorts of awesome.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 05:41 PM)

See, you say that and you know there's new a bubsy game coming. Don't make us keep re-baselining our horror reactions.

@  Sean Whitmore : (23 June 2017 - 03:31 PM)

Epilogue is the worst thing to happen to mankind. And I'm including, like, all the wars and stuff.

@  Evac : (23 June 2017 - 02:11 PM)

... Did Linkara cover that one?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 01:50 PM)

the comics where Barbara quit being Batgirl after she was beaten into a miscarriage.

@  Boomhauer : (23 June 2017 - 01:20 PM)

His choice to be Batman had more punch when he was a completely normal guy met with the same dillema instead of the DNA garbage that muddies the message for no other reason than to give Old Bruce another ass-kiss before the show is over. It's a boring episode whose entire concept is repeating things already known and spark Squawkbox arguments.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 01:11 PM)

But he still chose to be batman. Not only did he chose to be batman, he did it better.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I have to agree.. Part of the problem with Epilogue is it takes away from "Terry CHOSE to be batman" and changed it a bit to "Terry was designed to be batman."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Do you mean the DCAU continuity comics or Future's End?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 11:36 AM)

can we all at least agree it's a better ending for Batman Beyond than the comics?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 10:52 AM)

There was no evidence of it to support it in the show, and generally using someone to MAKE a batman is a jerkish thing to do.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:37 AM)

why does it matter?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

I think the problem with Epilogue was making Terry effectivly Batman's son.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:24 AM)

what's your problem with it?

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 10:02 AM)

Epilogue give a great end to Batman Beyond and even has a Mask of the Phantasm character

@  MrBlud : (23 June 2017 - 09:55 AM)

I don't post in the Shoutbox often, but when I do, it's to confirm "Epilogue" is garbage.

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 08:43 AM)

even "Epilogue" ? (braces for that argument again)

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Its a really great show.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Justice League unlimited

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2017 - 08:14 AM)

Sprinkles or nothing!

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2017 - 07:06 AM)

>_< 3 hrs, $5,628 to go for the Two Scoops Kickstarter http://kck.st/2qgIkCd

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 06:16 AM)

Yeah, miles is only used when accuracy doesn't actually matter, or we're dealing with americans.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 03:55 AM)

We even use "miles" in similar contexts in German even though we use kilometers for actual measurements.

@  The Doctor Who : (23 June 2017 - 02:40 AM)

Makes sense, really. Colloquialisms exist in their own weird little universe where terminology can persist after it's no longer relevant otherwise.

@  abates : (23 June 2017 - 01:17 AM)

We also measure car milage in kilometres but still call it milage.

@  Bass X0 : (22 June 2017 - 05:47 PM)

No. We still say miles. Kilometers is only really used for actual specific distances whereas miles being used in a common phrase is still miles.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 June 2017 - 04:59 PM)

People from outside the U.S.: as we are all English-proficient here, do you ever use the phrase "I saw it coming from miles away.", or do you say "kilometers" instead?

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:06 PM)

Wow, that was supposed to :shout" hours ago...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:05 PM)

Indeed. Especially on opening week. We're talking avg, 5-8%. It's more at your discount/sub-run houses.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

AMC knows it, freakin $7 for a regular drink

@  Paladin : (22 June 2017 - 08:22 AM)

and if you want to support your theaters, buy more concessions. because they get SHIT from the ticket sales...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:15 AM)

So, we charged an extra $1 per. F'em

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:13 AM)

First, they threatened to stop sending us digital because we weren't upcharging for it (back when we were still "mixed" format). Then they threatened to stop sendingus 3D because we didn't upcharge for those either initially.

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:12 AM)

Can't blame the theater totally for those ticket prices. The studios have a say in them as well.

@  Noideaforaname : (22 June 2017 - 12:00 AM)

Charge 'em for the lice! Extra for the mice! Two percent for looking in the mirror twice!

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 June 2017 - 11:45 PM)

Even here in Canada where price gouging is commonplace, IMAX 3-D is still $19.50

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 June 2017 - 11:44 PM)

$27 a ticket? That's ludicrous


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#21 Jalaguy

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 05:53 PM

Well geez, you lot, guess I'm setting up a GoBots wiki this weekend.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:01 PM

so what would the difference be between this one and the one locoman linked to? wouldnt it be essentially the same thing?


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:07 PM

Ours will have funny captions, and blackjack, and hookers.
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

Also, ours will be ours.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:09 PM

so what would the difference be between this one and the one locoman linked to? wouldnt it be essentially the same thing?

Be good, I suppose.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:10 PM

And actually be updated by people who know how to make a good wiki and not entirely copy-pasted from Ignash's awful cartoon "summaries."



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:13 PM

so what would the difference be between this one and the one locoman linked to? wouldnt it be essentially the same thing?

 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:16 PM

And actually be updated by people who know how to make a good wiki and not entirely copy-pasted from Ignash's awful cartoon "summaries."


Oh shit, I thought the formatting seemed familiar. It really is just all Ignash's Wikipedia pages...

#29 Chris McFeely

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:19 PM

Once seen, it cannot be unseen. Universal, awful, everywhere. That anyone can think that is a good way to present information - so utterly, bullheadedly confident that they go off and make their own wiki - baffles me to this day.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:22 PM

I'm on my phone and phone posting is garbage but I wanted to put this thought out now to prompt some discussion:

A GB wiki cannot -or at least should not- treat GB coverage as TFWIKI treats TF coverage, as the latter franchise is a vast, still-thriving franchise and the former... isn't.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:23 PM

So what's the best way to handle characters like The Evil One and Stretch, who are canonically dimension-jumping Transformers?
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:25 PM

On that note: Given how much less "diverse" GoBots is than Transformers, I think putting together some form of character infoboxes listing alt mode, first appearance in fiction, toy source, etc might be a good idea. No reason to just blindly ape TFWiki in everything.


I still think that would be a good thing to implement on the IDW Wiki as well.

And hey, if you're making it, Jala, I'd be happy to provide janitorial services (since my GoBot knowledge is "Retroactively part of TF and ones called Crasher.")

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:26 PM

Just the Evil One when he is the Evil One, with an external link to "The Fallen" on TFWiki. As for Stretch, leave out his Animated origin, with a link to the TFWiki as well?



#34 Chris McFeely

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:26 PM

Yes, literally that - GoBots wiki describes their role in GoBots fiction, link off to TFWiki - with a note that clearly explains what the deal is - for everything else.



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:28 PM

And then the GoBots who appeared in Echoes and Fragments get full write-ups of that story on GBwiki (while the story itself and the Transformers characters stay on TFwiki), if I'm grokking this?
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:34 PM

If I can make the time, I'll pitch in. 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:37 PM

When I have a few minutes and don't have a blinding headache, I'll compile a list of Gobots toys I have that are suitable for photography. I know I can at least provide us with Command Center and Thruster photos.

 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:41 PM

So what's the best way to handle characters like The Evil One and Stretch, who are canonically dimension-jumping Transformers?


That's canon on the TF side, but it shouldn't have primacy on a GB wiki. Mention it, yes.

Go Bots was too short lived to have the same depth as TF's 30 year brand, but it had some breadth. Various incarnations of Robo Machines, etc. I think it would make sense to cover it all, with Machine Robo acknowledged as the hub of it. This isn't Transformers, and Bandai's contributions have been the most lasting by far.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:51 PM

So where GoBots locations, technology, etc. have also appeared in Transformers, we should external link between TFWiki and GBWiki, yes?



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:06 PM

Okay, home now, so it is physically easier for me to articulate some stuff...

 

The amount of GB material is pretty dang finite, and of a vastly smaller scale than Transformers. The latter'd be pretty true even if we stopped paying attention to anything past the 80s. And there's not likely gonna be much more added to it. So a GB wiki can be afforded some... leeway that the TF/IDW wikis shouldn't have.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the IDW Hasbro Wiki currently doesn't full-cover comic issues and whatnot that are "fully" under the TF umbrella, right? Which makes sense. There's vast tons of TF material predating the shared universe, plus it being a new, indefinite series means that duplicating articles can very well lead to information creep, so you want to minimize that. That's not really gonna be an issue with GoBots. And I'm not a fan of making people jump sites too much. I think a GB wiki could easily get away with replicating/adapting the pages for the TF-umbrella stories (excising much of the TF-specific trivia notes), and basically replicating the toy entries from TFwiki on the character pages.

 

That said, I'm with Chip in that the wiki should also be unambiguously clear as to what was from the original series, and what was tacked on two decades later, and keep priority on the former.

 

I do also feel like Machine Robo and whatever follow-ups should be taken under consideration. No, they're not GoBots in the same way that Diaclone isn't Transformers, but again, scale plays a big factor, and it's a different situation anyway since MR is still sort of up and alive, and putting out new product that sure seems at least partially aimed at GoBots fans. Yeah, actual-Tonka-GoBots should take priority.

 

 

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