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@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

"Fairness" was not the media's main problem.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 October 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Holy fish! Second life is still a thing?!?!

@  Benbot : (20 October 2018 - 08:32 AM)

What were you streaming, Silverclaw?

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:42 AM)

You helped destroy western democracy, but hey, at least no-one can accuse you of bias... Oh wait, they did, still do, and are going to keep doing so as long as you report facts.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:39 AM)

Hillary was a good choice to run against Trump, the big problem was the media crawling all over themselves to try and push the idea of fairness, and threw her under the bus to do so. Any hint of impropriety was treated as being exactly the same as actual proven criminal acts by Trump in order to avoid being seen as biased... and at the end of it all, he turned around and bit them for doing so because that's who he is.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:37 AM)

Many right-wingers are using its name as part of our version of the term "libtards": "Left-green filthy".

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:35 AM)

It's the only of the "established" parties (it's almost 40 years old at this point) that has remained true to its principles.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:34 AM)

Meanwhile, some uplifting news from Germany: While our big parties are rapidly losing voters, and our new "we're not really extreme" right-wing party is gaining voters, there is one other party that is scoring massive points, both in polls and the recent Bavarian state election: The Green Party.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:33 AM)

I still think having Hillary run against Drumpf was a bad choice.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 03:32 AM)

Well on the bright side, we know more people voted for HIllary than the cheeto.


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#41 Verity Carlo

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:29 PM

Oh, I'm certain this was probably a late edition.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:40 AM

Yeah, actually I'm sure the club would have preferred I submit the stories earlier.

I've been pretty busy this year. as my company is working on some big publishing projects.

 

Don't you think there's a certain relevance to their current plight given this timing, though?

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:47 AM

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:15 AM

I'm sure there are people who don't use twitter, so choose your Gobots in this thread, if you like!

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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:33 AM

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

Love it! But, based on my own experience for what is and isn't allowed, makes sense that this wouldn't pass muster. What's the significance of the Maximal symbol?

 

 

I'm sorry, but for a company about to lose the license to produce new content, they're really dragging this shit out, aren't they? Was the actual story content delayed in favor of the S.T.A.R.S. gag, or was it always supposed to be like this?

 

Oh, come now. "Dragging it out?" Everyone involved is busting their ass to get you as much content as we can before the end of the year. It's a celebration of the brand, and none of us wants to waste a single day. I'm still only halfway done with Derailment, the 4th and final part of the BWU Finale. To me, that's not "dragging it out," that's working hard to make sure that the fans get as much content as we can produce before the brand moves on in another direction.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:43 AM

 

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

Love it! But, based on my own experience for what is and isn't allowed, makes sense that this wouldn't pass muster. What's the significance of the Maximal symbol?

It's a crest that was given to them by the "Beast Sage" to help forestall the destructive force that was trying to destroy their world.

 

Though, the text described it as a "vaguely leonine-shaped sigil". I guess the Maximal symbol could be considered at least cat-like, maybe.


Edited by Sabrblade, 26 November 2016 - 11:45 AM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:47 AM

The Maximal symbol is on a column that Lio Convoy/Leo Prime installed during his visit. It was meant to forestall the end of the universe if even just briefly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:22 PM

Oh, neat. I remembered that Lio Convoy visited here to help out, but didn't make the connection with the Maximal symbol. I always thought of it as lupine myself.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:27 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that it was just, like, a big picture of Lio's lion head.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:31 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that it was just, like, a big picture of Lio's lion head.

 

Yup. That said, if a lion-man saved my universe with a device affixed with that admittedly fairly abstract symbol, I might think of it as leonine too. Context matters.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:36 PM

I've heard it be referred to as looking like a coyote head.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 01:19 PM

I see it as fox/wolf-like.

One might make the argument that it's a really stylized feline.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:14 PM

 

 

I'm sorry, but for a company about to lose the license to produce new content, they're really dragging this shit out, aren't they? Was the actual story content delayed in favor of the S.T.A.R.S. gag, or was it always supposed to be like this?

 

Oh, come now. "Dragging it out?" Everyone involved is busting their ass to get you as much content as we can before the end of the year. It's a celebration of the brand, and none of us wants to waste a single day. I'm still only halfway done with Derailment, the 4th and final part of the BWU Finale. To me, that's not "dragging it out," that's working hard to make sure that the fans get as much content as we can produce before the brand moves on in another direction.

 

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Yes. Dragging it out. This story was ten pages of the cast walking from one setting to a second setting, only to be told they needed to go to a third setting for the next chapter. That was the entire "plot". There was no characterization or plot development of any kind beyond this. So whether you've been waiting eight months since the last installment, three years and five months since Spatiotemporal Challengers was actually announced at BotCon 2013, or eight years and six months since the Withered Hope cliffhanger, this left a lot to be desired.
 

I have no complaints about Uprising and its schedule. Eight chapters in a year is very impressive. This is specifically about Spatiotemporal Challengers, and its one chapter in eight years.

 

I don't know why it's been three years since Spatiotemporal Challengers was announced and it's only coming out now. I don't know if there were personal problems that delayed the creators or professional problems with the prose license that delayed Fun Pub. All I can go by is what I see. And while High Noon delivered a coherent sequence of events, Sunrise and Journey's Eve both feel like filler. Worse, they're also the chapters attached with special "gimics", like a full Japanese translation at the end or a wholly unnecessary interactive element.

 

Which brings me back to Fun Pub losing the license and a general concern that if the thing ain't done by December 31st, it ain't ever gettin' done. And we get a chapter that stands for nothing except telling us "We haven't even started writing the next chapter, since we're waiting for you to weigh in from S.T.A.R.S.!"? A whole lot of effort was put into making that S.T.A.R.S. homage and the file cards as a bonus feature, when the audience is more than a little worried that the actual story won't even get finished on time.

 

It doesn't feel like this was the original 2013 plan.

It feels like this was turned into Chapters late in development.

It feels like these gimics were also added on late in development.

And it feels like all this is delaying, dragging out, and bogging down what could've been a good story for reasons beyond my comprehension.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:16 PM

Hydra just said he was busy?

 

I mean,they may have had the plot ready by 2013, but writing the actual stories themselves take time and approval from higher ups.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:17 PM

I've always thought that the Maximal logo was some kind of stylized sabre-toothed cat.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:20 PM

I mean, I can talk from some experience here-things require re-writes, couple of different drafts, and if you're lucky, by the second or third draft it's approved. And art requires time as well.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:22 PM

Hydra just said he was busy?

 

I mean,they may have had the plot ready by 2013, but writing the actual stories themselves take time and approval from higher ups.

 

Which, if you read my post, was not my point.

 

My point was, even assuming everything you said was true, why take additional time to delay doing bonus features and gimics, especially if there's a final full-stop deadline for all Fun Pub material?
 



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 04:11 PM

This story was ten pages of the cast walking from one setting to a second setting, only to be told they needed to go to a third setting for the next chapter. That was the entire "plot"...

 

...A whole lot of effort was put into making that S.T.A.R.S. homage and the file cards as a bonus feature, when the audience is more than a little worried that the actual story won't even get finished on time.

 

Ah, I see. I misunderstood your point completely then. I will say this--Andrew is the one writing the story. Most of the S.T.A.R.S. stuff was (I believe) done up by Jesse and myself. So it hasn't really taken away time from the story itself. Also, as a creative person, sometimes you have to do what you're inspired to do. That may not be what you, as a reader, want, but sometimes the only way forward is laterally. 

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:25 PM

Well then, I can appreciate it if the "bonus materials" were being done by other contributors instead of the main creative team.

 

I still question doing a survey on what the upcoming content should be so close to (what I assume is) a drop-dead deadline for final releases by the end of the year. But who knows -- the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure element may end up having a negligible effect on the next chapter, so it can be almost done even before the results come in.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:31 PM

Maybe it's to help the author? 8 characters is a lot to juggle around.


 

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