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@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on


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#41 Verity Carlo

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:29 PM

Oh, I'm certain this was probably a late edition.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:40 AM

Yeah, actually I'm sure the club would have preferred I submit the stories earlier.

I've been pretty busy this year. as my company is working on some big publishing projects.

 

Don't you think there's a certain relevance to their current plight given this timing, though?

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:47 AM

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:15 AM

I'm sure there are people who don't use twitter, so choose your Gobots in this thread, if you like!

Path Finder

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Gettin' the OG e-HOBBY band back together!

 

Now if only Bug Bite's whereabouts could be tracked down.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:33 AM

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

Love it! But, based on my own experience for what is and isn't allowed, makes sense that this wouldn't pass muster. What's the significance of the Maximal symbol?

 

 

I'm sorry, but for a company about to lose the license to produce new content, they're really dragging this shit out, aren't they? Was the actual story content delayed in favor of the S.T.A.R.S. gag, or was it always supposed to be like this?

 

Oh, come now. "Dragging it out?" Everyone involved is busting their ass to get you as much content as we can before the end of the year. It's a celebration of the brand, and none of us wants to waste a single day. I'm still only halfway done with Derailment, the 4th and final part of the BWU Finale. To me, that's not "dragging it out," that's working hard to make sure that the fans get as much content as we can produce before the brand moves on in another direction.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:43 AM

 

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

Love it! But, based on my own experience for what is and isn't allowed, makes sense that this wouldn't pass muster. What's the significance of the Maximal symbol?

It's a crest that was given to them by the "Beast Sage" to help forestall the destructive force that was trying to destroy their world.

 

Though, the text described it as a "vaguely leonine-shaped sigil". I guess the Maximal symbol could be considered at least cat-like, maybe.


Edited by Sabrblade, 26 November 2016 - 11:45 AM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:47 AM

The Maximal symbol is on a column that Lio Convoy/Leo Prime installed during his visit. It was meant to forestall the end of the universe if even just briefly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:22 PM

Oh, neat. I remembered that Lio Convoy visited here to help out, but didn't make the connection with the Maximal symbol. I always thought of it as lupine myself.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:27 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that it was just, like, a big picture of Lio's lion head.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:31 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that it was just, like, a big picture of Lio's lion head.

 

Yup. That said, if a lion-man saved my universe with a device affixed with that admittedly fairly abstract symbol, I might think of it as leonine too. Context matters.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:36 PM

I've heard it be referred to as looking like a coyote head.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 01:19 PM

I see it as fox/wolf-like.

One might make the argument that it's a really stylized feline.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:14 PM

 

 

I'm sorry, but for a company about to lose the license to produce new content, they're really dragging this shit out, aren't they? Was the actual story content delayed in favor of the S.T.A.R.S. gag, or was it always supposed to be like this?

 

Oh, come now. "Dragging it out?" Everyone involved is busting their ass to get you as much content as we can before the end of the year. It's a celebration of the brand, and none of us wants to waste a single day. I'm still only halfway done with Derailment, the 4th and final part of the BWU Finale. To me, that's not "dragging it out," that's working hard to make sure that the fans get as much content as we can produce before the brand moves on in another direction.

 

-JimS

 

 

Yes. Dragging it out. This story was ten pages of the cast walking from one setting to a second setting, only to be told they needed to go to a third setting for the next chapter. That was the entire "plot". There was no characterization or plot development of any kind beyond this. So whether you've been waiting eight months since the last installment, three years and five months since Spatiotemporal Challengers was actually announced at BotCon 2013, or eight years and six months since the Withered Hope cliffhanger, this left a lot to be desired.
 

I have no complaints about Uprising and its schedule. Eight chapters in a year is very impressive. This is specifically about Spatiotemporal Challengers, and its one chapter in eight years.

 

I don't know why it's been three years since Spatiotemporal Challengers was announced and it's only coming out now. I don't know if there were personal problems that delayed the creators or professional problems with the prose license that delayed Fun Pub. All I can go by is what I see. And while High Noon delivered a coherent sequence of events, Sunrise and Journey's Eve both feel like filler. Worse, they're also the chapters attached with special "gimics", like a full Japanese translation at the end or a wholly unnecessary interactive element.

 

Which brings me back to Fun Pub losing the license and a general concern that if the thing ain't done by December 31st, it ain't ever gettin' done. And we get a chapter that stands for nothing except telling us "We haven't even started writing the next chapter, since we're waiting for you to weigh in from S.T.A.R.S.!"? A whole lot of effort was put into making that S.T.A.R.S. homage and the file cards as a bonus feature, when the audience is more than a little worried that the actual story won't even get finished on time.

 

It doesn't feel like this was the original 2013 plan.

It feels like this was turned into Chapters late in development.

It feels like these gimics were also added on late in development.

And it feels like all this is delaying, dragging out, and bogging down what could've been a good story for reasons beyond my comprehension.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:16 PM

Hydra just said he was busy?

 

I mean,they may have had the plot ready by 2013, but writing the actual stories themselves take time and approval from higher ups.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:17 PM

I've always thought that the Maximal logo was some kind of stylized sabre-toothed cat.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:20 PM

I mean, I can talk from some experience here-things require re-writes, couple of different drafts, and if you're lucky, by the second or third draft it's approved. And art requires time as well.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:22 PM

Hydra just said he was busy?

 

I mean,they may have had the plot ready by 2013, but writing the actual stories themselves take time and approval from higher ups.

 

Which, if you read my post, was not my point.

 

My point was, even assuming everything you said was true, why take additional time to delay doing bonus features and gimics, especially if there's a final full-stop deadline for all Fun Pub material?
 



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 04:11 PM

This story was ten pages of the cast walking from one setting to a second setting, only to be told they needed to go to a third setting for the next chapter. That was the entire "plot"...

 

...A whole lot of effort was put into making that S.T.A.R.S. homage and the file cards as a bonus feature, when the audience is more than a little worried that the actual story won't even get finished on time.

 

Ah, I see. I misunderstood your point completely then. I will say this--Andrew is the one writing the story. Most of the S.T.A.R.S. stuff was (I believe) done up by Jesse and myself. So it hasn't really taken away time from the story itself. Also, as a creative person, sometimes you have to do what you're inspired to do. That may not be what you, as a reader, want, but sometimes the only way forward is laterally. 

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:25 PM

Well then, I can appreciate it if the "bonus materials" were being done by other contributors instead of the main creative team.

 

I still question doing a survey on what the upcoming content should be so close to (what I assume is) a drop-dead deadline for final releases by the end of the year. But who knows -- the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure element may end up having a negligible effect on the next chapter, so it can be almost done even before the results come in.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:31 PM

Maybe it's to help the author? 8 characters is a lot to juggle around.


 

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