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@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Another great 90's animated film is, of course, The Iron Giant.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Another thing I liked about The Prince of Egypt was that it explained (without even having to say it outright) why Moses was chosen to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. Someone who had been raised among the slaves would have had too much bitterness and would want to go in throwing the wrath of God on all the Egyptians (or at least the royal family) until they all burned alive. But Moses had been raised as a member of the royal family, so he still thought of them as family. He wanted to reach a peaceful solution if at all possible.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:04 PM)

"I know! I'll turn him into a flea. A harmless little flea, and then I'll put that flea in a box, and then put that box inside of another box, and when it arrives - AHAHAHA! I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH! It's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT, I tell you! Genius, I say!"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:03 PM)

Hell, The Emperor's New Groove is easily the funniest animated film ever. Disney managed to do what Dreamworks tried to do, and they did it right.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

None of their "funny" movies are anywhere near as funny as Aladdin or The Emperor's New Groove.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Its a pity Dreamworks devolved into a company that churned out "funny" films filled with pop culture references.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:00 PM)

(also at the end of that scene, the camera pans up from the Egyptian skyline to the night sky and the most prominent constellation is Orion. Which the Egyptians associated with Osiris)

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

Yeah I give them full credit for treating the Last Plague with all the solemness it deserves.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

It freed the Israelites, but Moses sure hated seeing what it did to his brother and all the normal non-slave owning people who didn't do anything wrong to the Israelites.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:58 PM)

And it actually portrays God murdering children as a tragic thing, something most other adaptations disturbingly don't do.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

So that what He told Moses becomes, "I'll lay the smackdown on Egypt, but I should warn you it's only gonna make Rameses dig in his heels more until I have no choice but to break him fully."

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:56 PM)

It also describes the "hardening of the Pharoah's heart" as his natural reaction to the plagues rather than an intentional mental override by God.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:54 PM)

Hell, it actually portrays the Plagues as something that's bad and treats most of the Egyptian people as not deserving that shit. "All the innocent who suffer from your stubbornness and pride" and all that.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I'm a Christian, but Prince of Egypt is one of the few religious movies I'll willingly watch, because it's actually good instead of being self-rightous preachy nonsense, batshit crazy propaganda or schmaltzy trash. It also has a great soundtrack with music that I actually put up there with some of Disney's best stuff.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:45 PM)

Dreamworks's best movies will always be the Dragons movies and The Prince of Egypt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Usually I'm willing to give animated films a go, but I have to agree this looked pretty terrible and I had no desire to see it

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

So it's the new "Bee Movie?"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:16 PM)

Calling it now: it'll be a meme in ten years.

@  Paladin : (26 March 2017 - 02:07 PM)

every single person who said "yes" to BOSS BABY should be smacked. repeatedly. with adamantium.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 06:02 AM)

Yeah, I don't sync my Twitter since it's irrelevant to a TF forum and sometimes NSFW.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 06:00 AM)

Ah, okay. I... don't know if that's a good idea or not. I post a lot of cats.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:50 AM)

I believe it will auto post anything you put on Twitter/Facebook to the Status section on the main forum page?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:41 AM)

And I totally miss Krispy Kreme. I mean, they're still around here, but nowhere I don't have to go well out of my way for any more. =(

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:40 AM)

"i think you can sync profiles from both to this site." Not clear on what that means.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

:D I'm glad I have people and sheep who are willing to eat doughnuts for me.

@  Bass X0 : (26 March 2017 - 04:48 AM)

YOU'RE ALREADY CRAZY, MR. "I AM SHRAPNEL, DECEPTICON HERO"!!

@  Waspinator : (26 March 2017 - 04:45 AM)

DON'T MIND IF I DO

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 March 2017 - 04:07 AM)

Go crazy?

@  Waspinator : (26 March 2017 - 03:31 AM)

No TV and no beer make Homer something something

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 March 2017 - 02:18 AM)

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (26 March 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Then again, I'd hate to fill up on Krispy Kremes right before dinner. What if I just bite his face off instead?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (26 March 2017 - 12:49 AM)

Yup.

@  OrionPax44 : (26 March 2017 - 12:48 AM)

MED has a fool proof protection plan. Foffy and I will eat all the Krispy Kreme donuts that stand in here way. Right Foffy?

@  Telly : (26 March 2017 - 12:08 AM)

*throws a krispy kreme* bite that! :p

@  Foffy the Sheep : (25 March 2017 - 11:59 PM)

Anyone who was going to try use MED's weaknessses against her would have to go through me first. And I'm warning you, I bite.

@  Telly : (25 March 2017 - 11:17 PM)

we now know meddmis weakness *rubs hands together sinisterly*

@  MEDdMI : (25 March 2017 - 04:44 PM)

My friends and I sold them in college for fundraising. We often had boxes of them sitting around. I can still smell them. I won't be touching them again unless I'm forced to.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I love love love the hot Krispy Kreme donuts. They opened one in my area and for the first few weeks there was a line out the door of people waiting for hot donuts.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2017 - 02:33 PM)

OFF WITH HIS HEAD! Whoa... okay, that was a total over reaction. What I meant to say was... OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!

@  D Immortalis : (25 March 2017 - 12:52 PM)

honestly i'm not much of fan of Krispy Kreme.

@  Hg Dragon : (25 March 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Who DOESN'T want Krispy Kreme?!?!

@  Noideaforaname : (25 March 2017 - 11:12 AM)

Diabetes? Pftt. I'm a survivor!

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2017 - 11:04 AM)

But diabetes tastes so goooodddd....

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 March 2017 - 09:06 AM)

Nah, I can do without diabetes.

@  Bass X0 : (25 March 2017 - 08:37 AM)

So... who wants Krispy Kreme donuts?

@  Paladin : (25 March 2017 - 06:50 AM)

i think you can sync profiles from both to this site.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

So I'm looking around at my settings at the moment, and I'm noticing "Manage Facebook" and "Manage Twitter," but I have to log in with those to see anything. What do those offer?

@  Robowang : (24 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

Thanks.

@  Jalaguy : (24 March 2017 - 03:38 PM)

A gun was definitely jumped, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Big apology to everyone who wanted to stay spoiler-free.

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 March 2017 - 03:08 PM)

Oh hey the news post in question turned up on my Tumblr dash, too. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot.


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#41 Verity Carlo

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:29 PM

Oh, I'm certain this was probably a late edition.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:40 AM

Yeah, actually I'm sure the club would have preferred I submit the stories earlier.

I've been pretty busy this year. as my company is working on some big publishing projects.

 

Don't you think there's a certain relevance to their current plight given this timing, though?

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:47 AM

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:15 AM

I'm sure there are people who don't use twitter, so choose your Gobots in this thread, if you like!

Path Finder

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Gettin' the OG e-HOBBY band back together!

 

Now if only Bug Bite's whereabouts could be tracked down.


Edited by Sabrblade, 26 November 2016 - 11:15 AM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#45 Jim S

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:33 AM

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

Love it! But, based on my own experience for what is and isn't allowed, makes sense that this wouldn't pass muster. What's the significance of the Maximal symbol?

 

 

I'm sorry, but for a company about to lose the license to produce new content, they're really dragging this shit out, aren't they? Was the actual story content delayed in favor of the S.T.A.R.S. gag, or was it always supposed to be like this?

 

Oh, come now. "Dragging it out?" Everyone involved is busting their ass to get you as much content as we can before the end of the year. It's a celebration of the brand, and none of us wants to waste a single day. I'm still only halfway done with Derailment, the 4th and final part of the BWU Finale. To me, that's not "dragging it out," that's working hard to make sure that the fans get as much content as we can produce before the brand moves on in another direction.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:43 AM

 

This was a piece of concept art that Hayato Sakamoto drew for the 2nd chapter.

 

Although I really like it, it went unused for... Y'know, reasons.

You can take it as a piece of fanart.

 

Love it! But, based on my own experience for what is and isn't allowed, makes sense that this wouldn't pass muster. What's the significance of the Maximal symbol?

It's a crest that was given to them by the "Beast Sage" to help forestall the destructive force that was trying to destroy their world.

 

Though, the text described it as a "vaguely leonine-shaped sigil". I guess the Maximal symbol could be considered at least cat-like, maybe.


Edited by Sabrblade, 26 November 2016 - 11:45 AM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:47 AM

The Maximal symbol is on a column that Lio Convoy/Leo Prime installed during his visit. It was meant to forestall the end of the universe if even just briefly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:22 PM

Oh, neat. I remembered that Lio Convoy visited here to help out, but didn't make the connection with the Maximal symbol. I always thought of it as lupine myself.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:27 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that it was just, like, a big picture of Lio's lion head.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:31 PM

Yeah, I always assumed that it was just, like, a big picture of Lio's lion head.

 

Yup. That said, if a lion-man saved my universe with a device affixed with that admittedly fairly abstract symbol, I might think of it as leonine too. Context matters.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:36 PM

I've heard it be referred to as looking like a coyote head.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 01:19 PM

I see it as fox/wolf-like.

One might make the argument that it's a really stylized feline.

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:14 PM

 

 

I'm sorry, but for a company about to lose the license to produce new content, they're really dragging this shit out, aren't they? Was the actual story content delayed in favor of the S.T.A.R.S. gag, or was it always supposed to be like this?

 

Oh, come now. "Dragging it out?" Everyone involved is busting their ass to get you as much content as we can before the end of the year. It's a celebration of the brand, and none of us wants to waste a single day. I'm still only halfway done with Derailment, the 4th and final part of the BWU Finale. To me, that's not "dragging it out," that's working hard to make sure that the fans get as much content as we can produce before the brand moves on in another direction.

 

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Yes. Dragging it out. This story was ten pages of the cast walking from one setting to a second setting, only to be told they needed to go to a third setting for the next chapter. That was the entire "plot". There was no characterization or plot development of any kind beyond this. So whether you've been waiting eight months since the last installment, three years and five months since Spatiotemporal Challengers was actually announced at BotCon 2013, or eight years and six months since the Withered Hope cliffhanger, this left a lot to be desired.
 

I have no complaints about Uprising and its schedule. Eight chapters in a year is very impressive. This is specifically about Spatiotemporal Challengers, and its one chapter in eight years.

 

I don't know why it's been three years since Spatiotemporal Challengers was announced and it's only coming out now. I don't know if there were personal problems that delayed the creators or professional problems with the prose license that delayed Fun Pub. All I can go by is what I see. And while High Noon delivered a coherent sequence of events, Sunrise and Journey's Eve both feel like filler. Worse, they're also the chapters attached with special "gimics", like a full Japanese translation at the end or a wholly unnecessary interactive element.

 

Which brings me back to Fun Pub losing the license and a general concern that if the thing ain't done by December 31st, it ain't ever gettin' done. And we get a chapter that stands for nothing except telling us "We haven't even started writing the next chapter, since we're waiting for you to weigh in from S.T.A.R.S.!"? A whole lot of effort was put into making that S.T.A.R.S. homage and the file cards as a bonus feature, when the audience is more than a little worried that the actual story won't even get finished on time.

 

It doesn't feel like this was the original 2013 plan.

It feels like this was turned into Chapters late in development.

It feels like these gimics were also added on late in development.

And it feels like all this is delaying, dragging out, and bogging down what could've been a good story for reasons beyond my comprehension.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:16 PM

Hydra just said he was busy?

 

I mean,they may have had the plot ready by 2013, but writing the actual stories themselves take time and approval from higher ups.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:17 PM

I've always thought that the Maximal logo was some kind of stylized sabre-toothed cat.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:20 PM

I mean, I can talk from some experience here-things require re-writes, couple of different drafts, and if you're lucky, by the second or third draft it's approved. And art requires time as well.


 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:22 PM

Hydra just said he was busy?

 

I mean,they may have had the plot ready by 2013, but writing the actual stories themselves take time and approval from higher ups.

 

Which, if you read my post, was not my point.

 

My point was, even assuming everything you said was true, why take additional time to delay doing bonus features and gimics, especially if there's a final full-stop deadline for all Fun Pub material?
 



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 04:11 PM

This story was ten pages of the cast walking from one setting to a second setting, only to be told they needed to go to a third setting for the next chapter. That was the entire "plot"...

 

...A whole lot of effort was put into making that S.T.A.R.S. homage and the file cards as a bonus feature, when the audience is more than a little worried that the actual story won't even get finished on time.

 

Ah, I see. I misunderstood your point completely then. I will say this--Andrew is the one writing the story. Most of the S.T.A.R.S. stuff was (I believe) done up by Jesse and myself. So it hasn't really taken away time from the story itself. Also, as a creative person, sometimes you have to do what you're inspired to do. That may not be what you, as a reader, want, but sometimes the only way forward is laterally. 

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:25 PM

Well then, I can appreciate it if the "bonus materials" were being done by other contributors instead of the main creative team.

 

I still question doing a survey on what the upcoming content should be so close to (what I assume is) a drop-dead deadline for final releases by the end of the year. But who knows -- the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure element may end up having a negligible effect on the next chapter, so it can be almost done even before the results come in.



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:31 PM

Maybe it's to help the author? 8 characters is a lot to juggle around.


 

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