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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#1 Broadside

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 12:04 PM

Anybody been reading any of Rebirth? I've been loving Green Arrow and New Super-Man, even if the art in the latter is a bit shonky at times. Doom Patrol is exactly the right level of weird, too, as is Shade the Changing Girl.

 

Generally the line as a whole looks promising; it feels like it's got a solid direction in a way that neither DC nor Marvel have had in recent years. Hopefully Marvel takes a few lessons from this, and hopefully they're the right ones (i.e. not "drop all diversity and tell the same stories over again").

 

Blue Beetle and Detective Comics - well, the entire Batman line, really - have been disappointing, though, which is a shame; those were the two books I was most interested in.


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 04:56 PM

It will be a long time before I go back to a standard DCU book, but Young Animal is off to a great start. I think this looks to be the perfect Doom Patrol book (something many of us have been waiting a looooong time for!). Haven't checked out Shade but the first issue of Cave Carson was good too. Wonder Twins by Scioli is about the greatest thing I can imagine. 



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Posted 20 October 2016 - 05:46 AM

Cave was good, but something about it just didn't grab me. I'll still be picking it up, but maybe not forever.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 04:35 PM

Yeah, I really only picked it up because I needed Zan and Jayna. 



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Posted 27 October 2016 - 04:39 PM

So, Wednesday's issue of the Flash (with classic Wally and kid Wally meeting) was actually great, and really heartwarming; huge step up from the boring Zolomon retread it had been previously. Here's hoping this is actually permanent improvement, and not just a weirdly good one-off like that Nova issue with the Captain.

 

I'm kind of feeling lukewarm on Rebirth as a whole, though; while it's good that pretty much all the books are okay to great, I'm really missing the weirder, more fringe-y titles from the New 52 and DC You. There's a reason that most of what I'm getting from DC is Young Animal, Flintstones, and the guilty pleasure of Sixpack and Dogwelder. The weirdest thing that "main" DC is doing is New Super-Man.


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 02:03 PM

yeah but new super man is great for Chinese Bat-Man.


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 02:15 PM

I keep having to pronounce the hyphens in those names. Like "the Bat hyphen Man of China".

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 07:19 AM

yeah but new super man is great for Chinese Bat-Man.

 

Oh, absolutely. Honestly, the Chinese Trinity are some of my favourite characters in comics recently.

The FFoC have really cool designs, too, and I like that Folding Paper Man doubles as their Doll Man and Plastic Man.


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Posted 09 November 2016 - 01:06 PM

So, hey, other than that... other thing... that happened today, there were also comics.

 

Mother Panic! ...I wasn't feeling it. It was just a kind of underwhelming mix-up of Batman and Punisher. Great art, but I don't think I'll be following this one.

 

Doom Patrol, meanwhile, is going from strength to strength. I think this is gonna be one of my comics of the year. That "Danny Comics" interlude? MAN.

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New Super-Man is still the best of the Rebirth titles. You really get the feeling that Baixi was waiting for a while to use the "I'm Bat-Man" phrase.


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 12:50 PM

loved doom patrol..its just...the right kind of weird and fun. Also, notice that Flex is the only non-danny based comic in the store.

 

Mother Panic was good too...i like the story so far, but i hate the art. Like Nghthawk over at marvel, its just not my kind of art. The Gotham Radio backup was fun, but all I could think about while reading it was "look at that Robin costume...where and when does this take place?"...because that was clearly a Pre-flashpoint original Robin suit.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 05:22 AM

Priest?! Priest is writing Deathstroke?!

Checked out the first issue because man, that dude can write. Don't give a crap about Deathstroke, but for Priest I'm there. It didn't blow me away but it was solid and I'll probably give it another issue or two at least.

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 08:40 AM

I've heard a lot of praise for Deathstroke, but didn't bother because... well, it's Deathstroke. Worth checking out?


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:46 PM

I'm not sure I'd be confident in recommending it after just the initial oneshot, but it's Priest, so I'm fairly happy to assume that once it gets going it has a good chance of being literally the best book DC is publishing.

But I'm with you. I mean... Deathstroke. Of course, I used to feel the same way about Black Panther and Priest pushed him into my top 5 favourite Marvel characters. So.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 07:13 AM

Man, today's New Super-Man absolutely pulls out all the stops. Character development for Kenan? Correlating his powers - and the S-shape on his chest - with the bagua trigrams? And most of all...

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If you read one DC comic, it's got to be this one, because wow.

 

(Also, the new "villain" Alpaca is apparently based on the "Grass Mud Horse" meme, which is pretty great.)


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 12:04 AM

decided to try JLA Rebirth because *Real* Lobo (aka the non-Twilight-Sissy-Faux-Bo) is in it, and he's luckily sufficiently Main-Man-Like for the moment.

Could have used more "Feetal's Gizz!" shouts though. But it's good to have the Main Man back.
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Posted 09 February 2017 - 12:38 AM

I've only checked out Titans mainly and the first few issues of Superwoman. The bait and switch on the Superwoman book didn't sit well with meand I dropped it after issue 2. Titans has me with my fondness for the characters from the tv series and the fact that the Wally I know is one of the members plus the whole mystery of the Watchmen thing going on. Though not much has happened on the latter part. But my first three DC comics were parts 1,2,and 4 of Wally's "Year One" story in the Ninety's. Wally has always been my favorite DC hero since.

 

 

And while it is part of the Rebirth but I really don't consider Batman Beyond as part of it. Sadly even though I'm glad Terry's back I really don't like the post apocalyptic future Gotham being the last bastion of humanity angle they have had since beginning Tim's tenure as the Bat of Tomorrow. And the latest issues new suit has me really hoping it doesn't last long. Adding more red lines doesn't make it look any cooler.

 

Oh and I think I checked out the first Superman issue with Damien trying to take on Jon Kent. That was just out of curiosity.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:00 AM

All I want in life is a "Lobo vs Lobo" miniseries where classic Lobo and New52 Lobo (played as a parody of anime bishonen heroes) repeatedly murder each other in hilarious ways.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:33 AM

Lobo, proper Lobo, good Lobo, is one of those things... I shouldn't like him, but he's just too gosh darn loveable. Doing right by Lobo should absolutely be a priority for DC in this Deadpool-obsessed world.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 08:49 PM

So after significant delays, Doom Patrol is on an axey hiatus for a while after issue six (which hits April 29 but was due in Feb). Apparently 7-9 will be resolicited at some point in the future, but we'll see. 

 

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