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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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#1 Verity Carlo

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 05:13 AM

http://tfsource.com/...movie-reissues/

 

Possibly some kind of 10th anniversary thing?


 

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 05:19 AM

Oh snap, are those new rider mini-figs with the Dinobots? That's pretty cool.
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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:23 AM

The only right way to celebrate the movie's 10th anniversary is by giving us MP versions of Blackout, Bonecrusher, and '74 Bee.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:36 AM

Is this finally another release of Voyager ROTF Megatron?

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:55 AM

Yup, looking like the canceled version that never came out the first time (the one in Japan that HLJ still uses as part of their banners at some places).




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Posted 07 October 2016 - 07:09 AM

That Megatron has been begging for a proper deco since 2009. It was the first toy I ever bought *because* I was a collector.

I'm not as deep in movie toys as I used to be, but still...very tempting. The hybrid Evasion deco and the minifigs with the Dinobots are delicious.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 07:37 AM

So does the Voyager Starscream feature some of the original intended features that were removed for the figure when it went into production?

http://tfsource.com/...b08-starscream/

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 08:12 AM

A lot of these are good, if obvious, redecos, and it's a decent "greatest hits" lineup of the films. Though I wonder if there's an audience for this stuff anymore. I feel like I've mostly moved on, though some of these are tempting.

 

So we haaaave....

 

-Evasion Mode Optimus in a new deco, in his red and blue colors, but weathered.

-DOTM Deluxe 'bee, only with some kind of Gatling Gun weapon instead of his Mechtech (anyone recognize it?)

-The long-awaited ROTF Voyager Megs movie-accurate redeco. (This is attempt #3 at a release, right? Watch this get cancelled, too).

-A DOTM Voyager Shockwave re-release? Maybe a metallic deco?

-HFTD Deluxe Ironhide, probably in some kind of premium deco.

-What looks like DOTM Deluxe Ratchet repainted into his Movie 1/2 colors, with a tiny pistol instead of his Mechtech (again, anyone recognize it?)

-A DOTM Deluxe Soundwave re-release, minus accessories? (Yay for rarity, boo for lack of weapon)

-Some use of the ROTF Starscream mold, which I'm guessing will be in Movie 1 colors

-A voyager Grimlock with a mini Optimus rider?

-A Voyager Strafe, also with a mini Bumblebee rider

-ROTF Buster Prime, only with his DOTM Abs retool, a single sword from the Asia Release, and the faceplate on.



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:35 PM

The listing at BBTS says Soundwave is the Human Alliance one. I'm not familiar enough with the toy to tell.

 

Maybe I'm the only person, but I really like the the inaccurate deco on ROTF Voyager Megs. It's way more interesting than his actual movie colors. That one was the only movie megs in my collection for a long time.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:39 PM

So does the Voyager Starscream feature some of the original intended features that were removed for the figure when it went into production?

http://tfsource.com/...b08-starscream/

http://tfwiki.net/wi...utlaunchers.jpg

I think they're just using the original RotF prototype photos as a placeholder.

 

The listing at BBTS says Soundwave is the Human Alliance one. I'm not familiar enough with the toy to tell.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:53 PM

It kind of dawned on me only today that its been about 9 years since the first movie came out. I'm not going to really bother with any of these reissues unless there is something eye cataching, say ROTF leader Megatron with proper arms the relfect how he appeared in the film, the only movie Megatron I got is the 07 figure at least of the larger ones, I got the old legends (legion class) figures but I never went for the others, I had hoped for some third party or something to make improvements to that ROTF Megatron leader but nothing really came and I didn't bother to get him, I'm mainly put off by the arms, one being puny and the other a massive lump, while OP, I got the ROTF leader mold three times:

1. First release, the one that saw masses of him on the shelves

2. Jet Wing (the DOTM retool with the jet pack)

3. Takara Striker Optimus.

 

So for the moment in regards to these rereleases, I'm on the bench and not really likely to buy them.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 01:01 PM

That might be the best version yet of Evasion Optimus. I just went ahead and pre-ordered on BBTS.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 01:25 PM

:opens garbage bag:

 

I'm ready!

 

But seriously, some of these look nice. Shame we couldn't get the Leader Starscream Masterpiece released again. I'd probably buy that one.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 05:50 PM

:opens garbage bag:

 

I'm ready!

I read that as you wanting to buy these new ones just to throw them all away. :doh  :p  :D


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 08:51 PM

Oh look, a new version of Evasion Optimus.

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 12:13 AM

Takara.

 

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 12:20 AM

^ I'd rather Takara try to find some way to retool all that Jetfire armor to make it instead attach to the more movie-accurate 2010 Voyager OP mold.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 11:08 AM

Not me. I get why someone would want that, but I don't think it would look as good. I think the 07 mold's thicker limbs add something to the combined mode that we wouldn't get with the more accurate 2010 mold.

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 11:20 AM

I like the 2007 Voyager. It's got an intuitive transformation that accomplishes a a lot and BBOP inherits a lot of the Leader's fiddliness, the only major consolation being he doesn't keep introducing himself. 


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Posted 08 October 2016 - 12:26 PM

Maybe I'm the only person, but I really like the the inaccurate deco on ROTF Voyager Megs. It's way more interesting than his actual movie colors. That one was the only movie megs in my collection for a long time.

I *love* the green! It was a perfect 'zombie'/patina color, the shade a robot that's been dead at the bottom of the ocean should be.

 

Still wish we had gotten that version that had crabs and barnacles and things painted on...





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