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@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:31 PM

It was a great movie.


You saw it?

Non-spoiler review? :)


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:51 PM

At 96%. https://www.rottento...m/m/logan_2017/


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:54 PM

Man 3/3 is looking stacked.



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Posted 24 February 2017 - 01:06 PM

I'm watching it on Monday. I'm excited.

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 10:48 AM

I watched already. It's a brutal alternative superhero movie. A gut wrencher that tears at your heart.

I don't think I can watch it again. It's really good but ow ow ow

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 07:18 AM

That was epic. And brutal. An absolutely pitch perfect sendoff.

 

And I agree, that's going to be tough to watch again Sunday when I bring my teenagers.

 

Spoiler time.

 

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:51 PM

Utterly joyless.....and absolutely pitch perfect for Old Man Logan. Stewart and Jackman give the best acting I've ever seen in a Superhero movie....ever.

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 01:15 PM

Nobody ever said "Wolverine" or "X-Men" out loud during the whole movie did they? Although there were several clear and obvious visual references to both. 

 

Was there any references to the other guy with claws as being related to Sabretooth? If not, there should have been. Does Sabretooth have a son in the comics? I forget.

 

I also didn't stay to see if there were a post-credits scene. Was there?

 

And X-23 needs her own movie now. 


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 03:31 PM

No post credit scene (Im in the USA)

 

 

To say this film is brutal is an understatement. Not just in violence but in its tone.
 
A fitting end for Hugh Jackman imo.
 
 
Pros
 
Jackman/Stewart/and Dafne Keens acting. 
You can feel how old and tired Logan is . 
Keen portrays a feral child with a hint of sentiment well.
IMO This is Stewarts best performance. for the most part in previous X-films, hes played a benevolent, saintly Xavier.
In this one, he is sarcastic, bitter, funny as hell, and yet tender at times. I feel he should be nominated for an Oscar.
 
The fight scenes are very well-shot, bloody and unnerving for both Logan and x-23. You see all the impacts and there is minimal CG.
It even gets Mortal Kombat esque at times.
 
The growing bond between X-23 and Logan is slow  but touching .
 
Boyd Holbrook plays Pierce as a "charming southern gentleman" and may be one of the few times a henchman is more interesting than the main villain in an X-film.
 
the odd decision to have actual X-men comics in the movie doesnt take you out of it. It's used as a meta joke as well as serving as a plot point.
 
the music felt somewhat Western and Terminator 2 inspired.
 
the end - SNIFF :sad:
 
 
Cons
 
The main villain is shown very sparingly and plays an even lesser role in the final battle.
the other Reavers besides Pierce arent notable or any characters from the comics (that I could tell)
 
There is a character made from scratch for this film who appears at the end of Act 2.
While it sort of makes sense given Lauras origins, I was personally hoping one of Logans previous villains would have appeared.
This character doenst get much screentime out of fights so it may not bother you as much as robot Silver Samurai imo.
 
Like Deadpool, the villains are mostly functional for the plot but arent developed much or super memorable.
 
 
Notes: He doesnt wear the classic costume at all (No big loss as this type of story wouldnt fit)
 
 
Overall: A powerful character drama with great action. Much BETTER thanApocalypse.
              8.5/10
 
 
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First Class/Logan/Deadpool  (tie)
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:26 PM

I thought it was Sabertooth at first. I would have been fine if they tried calling him Daken.

Pierce was pretty cool. The kids were terrifying at that part. (They're not New Mutant tho. Comic Rictor isn't a telekinetic type)

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:29 PM

It would have been much cooler if it had actually been Daken in appearance and (slightly altered) backstory despite such a movie not being focused on Daken.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:12 PM

Nobody ever said "Wolverine" or "X-Men" out loud during the whole movie did they? Although there were several clear and obvious visual references to both. 

 

Was there any references to the other guy with claws as being related to Sabretooth? If not, there should have been. Does Sabretooth have a son in the comics? I forget.

 

I also didn't stay to see if there were a post-credits scene. Was there?

 

And X-23 needs her own movie now. 

 

 

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:16 PM

I missed that.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 09:24 PM

 

Nobody ever said "Wolverine" or "X-Men" out loud during the whole movie did they? Although there were several clear and obvious visual references to both. 

 

Was there any references to the other guy with claws as being related to Sabretooth? If not, there should have been. Does Sabretooth have a son in the comics? I forget.

 

I also didn't stay to see if there were a post-credits scene. Was there?

 

And X-23 needs her own movie now. 

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

didnt gabriella call him wolverine the first time she saw him? and when the comics are shown, wolvie says "we have an x-men fan"

 

so the deadpool part was an actual part of the movie? i thought it was just a new teaser trailer. though the several firefly posters promiently shown confuse me. i guess its cause morena was in the first one? is she in the second? and i liked the "nathan summers coming soon?" on the phonebooth

 

though i want now more than ever for hugh to come back and make a deadpool movie

 

as for the movie itself, its was good. dont feel a need to see it again til it hits blu ray though

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:03 AM

See, Fox, I knew if you put your mind to it, you could make a good Wolverine movie.

 

(No I didn't, this completely surprised me)

 

The pre-(opening)credit scene was hilarious, but I didn't take it as being part of the movie. It was just a short, like a Bug Bunny cartoon. Only much more appropriate.

 

Honestly, I wish New Mutants would pick up from here. It would have a purpose and its name would make sense, two things that won't remotely be true when taking place during the McAvoy/Xavier era.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:13 AM

Spoiler question

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

Spoiler question

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Imo Youre missing out.

 

Anyway that "scene" is just a short film or teaser for Deadpool 2. It's not connected to the movie.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:58 PM

This was a really awesome film.  I really enjoyed how they "realistically" portrayed how lethal an actual Wolverine character would be.  The guy has stabby knives coming out of his hands!

 

I saw that "Bonebreaker" was a character during the credits.  I was disappointed not to see a guy who was a torso riding around on tank treads.  Not sure which cannon-fodder Reaver character he was supposed to be.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:05 PM

Yeah, I was surprised to see many of the Reavers' names in the credits. Pretty Boy, Macon, Reese...

 

I bet if I watched this movie 100 more times, I would never be able to tell who was supposed to be who.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:16 PM

Man, just saw this. Thought it was excellent.

I thought it was much better than the Old Man Logan comics.

I'm gonna miss seeing Jackman and Stewart play those roles. :( (I'd love it if they filmed a sneaky cameo for Deadpool 2)


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