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@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 09:01 PM)

True, but IIRC Spike had more screen time during Costa's run.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 07:31 PM)

AHM deserves some of the blame for Spike, McCarthy was the one who made him the unlikeable army guy in the first place and had Optimus go 'Oh Spike, you're so manly, earth needs you. We should totally be best friends now!' 'No, it doesn't matter how hard you fought to save Earth or how many of your own kind were killed offpanel, we can never be friends with you so begone! Now, if you don't mind, I have a prisoner of war to drive about in and nurses to boink.'

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 06:05 PM)

AHM was bad, yeah, but I feel Costa was worse. Spike is the absolute worst character in the IDW comics, which really sucks since I like cartoon Spike.

@  Dracula : (27 March 2017 - 05:22 PM)

I haven't read AHM but as I understand it's very "story beats taken from Budiansky bios"

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 05:18 PM)

was referring more to how he was suspected of being a traitor in g1. and dreamwave. and 2001 rid. it was sarcastic, hence the :rolleyes  lol

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 05:10 PM)

Don't expect major events to be forshadowed.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:57 PM)

wow! what a twist! mirage is suspected of being a traitor! :rolleyes

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:49 PM)

yeah im only on issue 4 and its only been like 30 minutes since i started. lots of splash pages and very little dialog

@  unitremover : (27 March 2017 - 04:47 PM)

I read it for the first time about a year ago and my main problem with it was just how little content there seemed to be in the individual issues. I remember thinking that it took probably three issues before I felt like it had really delivered a "proper" issue's worth of story.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:33 PM)

id rather read about the galaxy-wide war than yet another story on earth. thats one of the things i loved about formerly r.i.d. but when they went back before combiner wars i lost interest. i read til all are one because of this.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 04:24 PM)

It's one of those stories that gets slightly better with age because you know that IDW comics recover, but at the time it was a massive step back, a complex universe where the war was being fought across the galaxy swept away offpanel and replaced by n episode of the cartoon with blood..And there's a fan character we were told we were going to love, inserted to lecture the Autobots.

@  Bass X0 : (27 March 2017 - 04:12 PM)

Its not a bad story really, but then I've read actual bad TF event stories by IDW that came later. There is one major turnabout that happens off panel with no explanation that should have been addressed better though.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:08 PM)

im about to start reading all hail megatron. wish me luck...

@  RC85747 : (27 March 2017 - 03:56 PM)

Bow to the evil unicorn

@  RichardT1977 : (27 March 2017 - 03:55 PM)

The G1 film had multiple good songs.

@  Dracula : (27 March 2017 - 03:37 PM)

he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed

@  Robowang : (27 March 2017 - 03:36 PM)

he's fat.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 March 2017 - 02:39 PM)

What do y'all think of Shrek?

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 01:51 PM)

Put down that chainsaw and listen to me! It's time for us to join in the fight!

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 01:51 PM)

At least the G1 film had one good song.

@  Boomhauer : (27 March 2017 - 01:27 PM)

I think I'd rather take neither, because ROTF being awful doesn't magically make the G1 Film stop being terrible.

@  Bass X0 : (27 March 2017 - 12:56 PM)

I'll take a children's movie where everyone talks like Wreck-Gar over a children's movie that has dog sex, masturbation, drugs, golden showers and enemy scrotum.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Oh-ee-yay! Talespin!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Superman.....

@  Sabrblade : (27 March 2017 - 09:27 AM)

"I... am not... a gun."

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Another great 90's animated film is, of course, The Iron Giant.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Another thing I liked about The Prince of Egypt was that it explained (without even having to say it outright) why Moses was chosen to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. Someone who had been raised among the slaves would have had too much bitterness and would want to go in throwing the wrath of God on all the Egyptians (or at least the royal family) until they all burned alive. But Moses had been raised as a member of the royal family, so he still thought of them as family. He wanted to reach a peaceful solution if at all possible.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:04 PM)

"I know! I'll turn him into a flea. A harmless little flea, and then I'll put that flea in a box, and then put that box inside of another box, and when it arrives - AHAHAHA! I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH! It's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT, I tell you! Genius, I say!"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:03 PM)

Hell, The Emperor's New Groove is easily the funniest animated film ever. Disney managed to do what Dreamworks tried to do, and they did it right.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

None of their "funny" movies are anywhere near as funny as Aladdin or The Emperor's New Groove.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Its a pity Dreamworks devolved into a company that churned out "funny" films filled with pop culture references.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:00 PM)

(also at the end of that scene, the camera pans up from the Egyptian skyline to the night sky and the most prominent constellation is Orion. Which the Egyptians associated with Osiris)

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

Yeah I give them full credit for treating the Last Plague with all the solemness it deserves.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

It freed the Israelites, but Moses sure hated seeing what it did to his brother and all the normal non-slave owning people who didn't do anything wrong to the Israelites.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:58 PM)

And it actually portrays God murdering children as a tragic thing, something most other adaptations disturbingly don't do.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

So that what He told Moses becomes, "I'll lay the smackdown on Egypt, but I should warn you it's only gonna make Rameses dig in his heels more until I have no choice but to break him fully."

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:56 PM)

It also describes the "hardening of the Pharoah's heart" as his natural reaction to the plagues rather than an intentional mental override by God.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:54 PM)

Hell, it actually portrays the Plagues as something that's bad and treats most of the Egyptian people as not deserving that shit. "All the innocent who suffer from your stubbornness and pride" and all that.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I'm a Christian, but Prince of Egypt is one of the few religious movies I'll willingly watch, because it's actually good instead of being self-rightous preachy nonsense, batshit crazy propaganda or schmaltzy trash. It also has a great soundtrack with music that I actually put up there with some of Disney's best stuff.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:45 PM)

Dreamworks's best movies will always be the Dragons movies and The Prince of Egypt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Usually I'm willing to give animated films a go, but I have to agree this looked pretty terrible and I had no desire to see it

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

So it's the new "Bee Movie?"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:16 PM)

Calling it now: it'll be a meme in ten years.

@  Paladin : (26 March 2017 - 02:07 PM)

every single person who said "yes" to BOSS BABY should be smacked. repeatedly. with adamantium.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 06:02 AM)

Yeah, I don't sync my Twitter since it's irrelevant to a TF forum and sometimes NSFW.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 06:00 AM)

Ah, okay. I... don't know if that's a good idea or not. I post a lot of cats.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:50 AM)

I believe it will auto post anything you put on Twitter/Facebook to the Status section on the main forum page?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:41 AM)

And I totally miss Krispy Kreme. I mean, they're still around here, but nowhere I don't have to go well out of my way for any more. =(

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:40 AM)

"i think you can sync profiles from both to this site." Not clear on what that means.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

:D I'm glad I have people and sheep who are willing to eat doughnuts for me.


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Posted 23 October 2016 - 03:33 AM



 



I'd say the more important question is how X and Magneto fail to age at all over the twenty-year span of the "second trilogy".

 

Patrick Stewart hasn't aged in twenty years, so that one's pretty easy.

 

 

Seriously.

 

They had to put old age makeup on a Seventy Six Year Old just to sell the idea that Xavier is older in Logan.


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Posted 23 October 2016 - 01:31 PM

Fox has so effectively butchered the X-Men continuity that I have no idea what the hell they are doing anymore.

 

The cinematic X-verse is very true to the overall comic continuity in that respect.


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Posted 23 October 2016 - 02:42 PM

Dunno why everyone's so confused, there are only two timelines:

Timeline A
First Class-->Origins: Wolverine-->-->-->X-Men-->X2-->X3-->The Wolverine-->-->DoFP(bad future)

Timeline B (created by Wolverine altering history)
First Class-->DoFP-->Apocalypse-->(untitled future X-film)-->Deadpool-->DoFP(good future)-->-->-->Logan

DoFP erased Origins: Wolverine, since Logan didn't go to Vietnam with Creed (where they would eventually come to Stryker's attention), but instead made a beeline for Xavier's mansion.

The only really confusing parts are peoples' ages/actors, and I'm willing to write those off as artistic license and butterfly effects.

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Posted 23 October 2016 - 03:20 PM

How is the teaser we saw in Logan a "good future"? Especially with it set a year after DoFP? Replace one catastrophe with another - the only difference is it seems Humanity isn't collateral damage like they were in the Sentinel Future.

 

Also, Deadpool's in an isolated continuity bubble, since he's aware of both McAvoy and Stewart.


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Posted 23 October 2016 - 03:52 PM

Yeah, the confusion is solely over the fact that DOFP had everyone having a whale of a time at the X-Mansion in 2023, and then Logan apparently has mutants as a dying breed in 2024, which makes zero sense if it's in the same new timeline.

(Also, I don't think Deadpool's fourth-wall-breaking gags are really something one should use to try and determine continuity...)
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Posted 23 October 2016 - 09:25 PM

How is the teaser we saw in Logan a "good future"? Especially with it set a year after DoFP? Replace one catastrophe with another - the only difference is it seems Humanity isn't collateral damage like they were in the Sentinel Future.
 
Also, Deadpool's in an isolated continuity bubble, since he's aware of both McAvoy and Stewart.


McAvoy and Stewart are in the same movie!

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Posted 23 October 2016 - 10:55 PM

What if Apocalypse showing up has set in motion cable traveling back and the universe on track for some AOE bad future.

Alternate theory: What if we aren't seeing old man Logan adapted, but the events leading to it. The "Bad guys" he kills throughout the movie are actually xmen trying to rescue the prof and x21 from a mind controlled wolverine. The end has a he audience all for wolverine going berserk on the baddies until it shamalan twists to him surround by the blood soaked body's of the xmen.
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Posted 24 October 2016 - 01:26 AM

Considering this is reportedly Jackman's last appearance as Wolverine, I doubt that.


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Posted 24 October 2016 - 05:52 AM

Yeah, I doubt they'll make Jackman's last outing so dang depressing.

 

As for Deadpool and McAvoy and Stewart in the same film - the thing there was it was Colossus taking him back to the mansion. The fact Wade asks the question (Beyond being a great gag), means there's a chance the Professor is McAvoy...who hasn't met Colossus yet.

 

Dang nabbit FOX. I am not supposed to think this hard about movie timelines.


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Posted 24 October 2016 - 10:20 PM

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 09:31 AM

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 10:34 AM

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 11:03 AM


The trailers for this all have looked surprisingly great.

ZacWilliam, really hope it lives up to them...
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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:11 PM

Man, I so hope this is as good as it leads us to believe


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 12:01 AM

for the first time, I am genuinely excited for an X Men movie.  That looks incredibly good.  As a hero movie, as a dramatic movie.  It looks good.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 10:20 PM

This movie looks ridiculously good from the trailers I really hope it does not dissapoint, Hugh deserves a great film as his exit from the Wolverine role.


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And it will finally reveal his honest-for-true-we're-not-kidding-this-time origins I bet
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:41 PM

It was a great movie.


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