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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#41 Razorsaw

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 11:41 AM

The thing with the Scavengers being the main focus for these past three episodes only for them to get tossed by the wayside for the sudden arrival of the New Big Bad Starscream feels kind of like a retread of season 1's focusing on Steeljaw and his Pack for most of that season only for them to get tossed by the wayside for the sudden arrival of the New Big Bad Megatronus.


Megatronus showed up for one episode immediately before the finale. They've been driving home the fact that the Mini-Cons have been running from a bigger threat than the Scavengers since their first appearance. So no, it doesn't really feel like that at all to me.

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 11:43 AM

Yeah there was plenty of foreshadowing that the filler villains were just filler this time. Though actually Megatronus was kind of a filler villain since he only existed for that abrupt increase in the finale's cosmic significance.


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 12:23 PM

I know we know from the cast and crew on social media that more of the show is coming, but if this is "arc"/"season"/wtf-ever is genuinely only six episodes along and ending with this three-parter/movie, I am deeply confused about the whole process of making this show. What IS this arc? What's the story behind its creation after the could-have-been-a-series-finale-if-they-wanted of "Decepticon Island"? You don't get 19-episode seasons.


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 12:40 PM

Well hmmm...

We know Hasbro advertised a "Fall Event" for RiD. And the type of "event" Cartoon Network likes to run for their own shows nowadays is "A Week of New Episodes!" like a Steven Bomb. This would be pretty close to the right length for that sort of thing... I realize RiD isn't daily currently/usually but the thinking might have been something like we do a special event with a week (with a special two m-episode-on-one-day conclusion?) or even just a month of new eps on Sat in the Fall just to HAVE something new in the Fall and then an actual full new season in 2017?


-ZacWilliam, I can at least see some logic in that...

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 01:06 PM

I was talking to McFeely about this on Twitter, but what I reckon is that for some unknown reason - I'm guessing CN being weird, because when aren't they - Hasbro were told that the next 13 episode season couldn't come out till 2017. Faced with having nothing to promote their second-half-of-2016 product, they then arranged for production of this six episode "mini-series" as a kind of stop gap. As Zac says, CN are keen on psuedo-mini-series type stuff nowadays, and I kind of expect this to air as three daily episodes proceeding the TV movie when it reaches the US.

This clearly isn't what the show staff were planning for the Next Thing That Happens - Prime flying straight back from Cybertron attests to that - so I feel pretty sure this is an isolated thing (rather than, say, the first six episodes of the next full season). By the end of it, I bet Optimus will be back on Cybertron, and the status quo will be unchanged from the end of S2, so that the "Prime investigates the Cybertron regime" plot they were clearly setting up can go ahead, as if these six episodes never happened.

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 01:35 PM

Might help explain the extra model reuse during this season too.

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 02:58 PM

Since when was Predaking Starscream's master?

 

When he presumably made Starscream his b**** at the end of Predacons Rising.

 

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 07:20 PM

"Miniseries" does sound like an apt description if this arc does indeed only run for 6 episodes. It calls to mind what Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers was the MMPR season 3, serving as a sort of "season 3.5" attached to the end of that season.

 

Though, what exactly is the source for this run of episodes being only six episodes long?


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 07:27 PM

Well, there was that Hasbro Studios copy from earlier this year that suggested there'd be 45 episodes (or alternatively 42 and a TV movie) by the end of the year.

And I gather CN Australia have put out their S3 press release, announcing a six-episode run.

But yeah, I'd put money on this being a standalone thing, and that we'll get another full 13 episode season in the first half of 2017.


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 07:40 PM

Yeah I bet on the "Hasbro preferred to have SOMETHING out for late 2016" horse too. Specially when you realize that the big Fall toy, the flying Optimus, usually only gets to reach worldwide stores in the second half of the year, so naturally they'd want something that aren't reruns there.



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Posted 03 October 2016 - 11:36 PM

Now if only there was a large voyager sized Prime Insecticon mold that could be repainted easily... :(


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 12:54 PM

Great stuff.  In whatever capacity it comes (i.e. half-season or the like), I look forward to anything new in this continuity.  It even made me go back and watch the end of "Deadlock" to see exactly how the Dark Saber fell. Acknowledging 'Screamer's new body was an excellent shout-out. It's all alot of fun right now (the writers are doing a fantastic job), and the warrior toys continue to be inspired.  I welcome it all.


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Posted 14 November 2016 - 10:16 PM

So this thing is airing on the regular weekly schedule.

 

Thanks so much, CN.



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:55 PM

Loved seeing the Dark Star Saber. Screamer looked great but I wanted to see more of his thug. They weren't blatant recolors. Sideswipe and his insults to the minicons was weird. I didn't think it would carry over past the ep, then I realized it was a multipart.

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