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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#1 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:00 PM

So, after a bumpy development road...Max Steel is apparently down and is due for release in October, I guess?  Can't really find a whole lot of information about a US release, and the only trailers I'm seeing are international versions.  Box Office Mojo doesn't even have it on their release list, and Mattel has been quiet on the fact the film was even being made.  Despite, supposedly, coming out in a couple months, there has been NO marketing about it, and Mattel doesn't even appear to have a merchandising push associated with it.

 

http://www.slashfilm...-steel-trailer/

 



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:08 PM

Really, this seems like it came a few years too late: It is clearly based on the 2013 franchise reboot, which seemed to do NOTHING in the US.  It had a couple seasons, but only a single year of real toy support.  And THAT is the version Mattel pushed into making into a film?  Film was apparently done more than two years ago (filming wrapped in 2014!), so that is also NEVER a good sign for a film.

 

Not only that, but without any indications of merchandising (Mattel said NOTHING about this at Toy Fair), this is almost shaping up into another Jem and the Holograms, especially given the release date.



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:31 PM

Looks pish! + looks more like the Guyver than it does Max Steel

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:50 PM

Really, this seems like it came a few years too late: It is clearly based on the 2013 franchise reboot, which seemed to do NOTHING in the US.  It had a couple seasons, but only a single year of real toy support.  And THAT is the version Mattel pushed into making into a film?  Film was apparently done more than two years ago (filming wrapped in 2014!), so that is also NEVER a good sign for a film.

I think you answered your own question, there.  If it wrapped in 2014, then it must have been part of that 2013 Max Steel push that failed.  Now they're just trying to make some cash back from it.  From Japan, I guess?


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 04:06 PM

And Latin America.  One version of the trailer I saw had Spanish subtitles.  Which does make sense, but it still feels odd that Mattel isn't doing anything in support of a film based on one of their properties.



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Posted 24 August 2016 - 03:41 AM

I have to ask... does the world even need a Max Steel movie?

The old show... existed. It never outshined Action Man in that genre, and wasn't particularly memorable. The new show was a flashy Ben 10 wannabee with really loose ties to the first show, and was quickly canned - and its toys still litter the shelves in every toystore in Hungary, discounted as they are. Looking at this trailer, it's mostly more of the same thing as the new show.

They should have put this on CN like the Ben 10 live-action movies, I doubt this will make a big income in theatres.



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Posted 24 August 2016 - 09:14 AM



I have to ask... does the world even need a Max Steel movie?

Nope.  But Mattel wants to make some money off the thing.


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Posted 24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM

I have to ask... does the world even need a Max Steel movie?

The old show... existed. It never outshined Action Man in that genre, and wasn't particularly memorable. The new show was a flashy Ben 10 wannabee with really loose ties to the first show, and was quickly canned - and its toys still litter the shelves in every toystore in Hungary, discounted as they are. Looking at this trailer, it's mostly more of the same thing as the new show.

They should have put this on CN like the Ben 10 live-action movies, I doubt this will make a big income in theatres.

Because it seems like Mattel rushed this into production in 2013-14 to ride their perceived wave of interest with the revamped concept.  Which goes to show how dangerous it can be to rush into such projects so quickly.

 

Max Steel was (is?) a MASSIVE property in Latin America, Mattel probably had more success with the brand in Latin America that it ever had with Masters of the Universe in modern times (ie, the 2K reboot onward).  It had a continued stream of figures and direct to home features (not unlike how GI Joe might have gone if Sigma Six and 25th hadn't happened).  But when Mattel tried to reintroduce the concept to the world market...we got what we got in 2013.  Which both conceptually and toy-wise, abandoned most of what made the original property so successful in the first place (especially in the toys).

 

I'm personally quite curious how this will perform in Latin America, given the brand's status in that region.



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Posted 24 August 2016 - 11:14 AM

Which both conceptually and toy-wise, abandoned most of what made the original property so successful in the first place (especially in the toys)

Successful in Latin America, anyway.  I can totally understand Mattel ditching the market to get a foothold in the rest of the world with a new concept for the line.  Then, as has been noted, they kind of just aped something else... again.


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Posted 24 August 2016 - 11:57 AM

Yeah, this is just bizarre to me. I never saw anything from the 2013 reboot, so the only Max Steel I was aware of was the shaky early mo-cap CG one from the early '00s. I never understood it as a toy concept, and the show was the most vanilla possible sci-fi action setup, and Max's power came from injected nanomachines (called nanites then, I think?) because they were magic in the early 00s. Max didn't have a superhero costume, although I vaguely remember something about his hair changing color when he powered up or something, and had the full support of a Knight-Industries-esque organization behind him.

Like the article mentioned, this looks like Star Kid, which was itself The Last Starfighter but with Guyver armor instead.

It's almost like the move from the original Transformers to Beast Machines, if you imagine that none of the intervening content from '86 on happened, and also Beast Machines has all references to transformation removed.

Just ... so very weird.

Edited by Copper Bezel, 24 August 2016 - 11:58 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 04:30 PM

The 90's version of Max Steel would've made a much better movie concept.

This looks like a Power Rangers movie, but without enough camp to distract from the fact that it's budget won't allow for the same kind of action as Marvel and DC movies.

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Posted 28 August 2016 - 05:06 PM

At the very least, it'll do gangbusters in Latin America.

 

To give you some context: for 10 years, before that 2013 cartoon, Mainframe Entertainment (Now Rainmaker) was making Max Steel DTV movies like the Barbie ones, animated and voiced in Canada. Different is, those TV movies were never shown in English, but dubbed in Spanish (and Portugese) and shown in Latin America. It's presence in toy aisles there is HUGE, and it's easily the most popular toy line of all time in Latin America.

 

As for a company making a movie for one specific region based on a property that was developed for the US? Mexico got a mediocre animated movie about Hanna-Barbera's Top Cat, that's how much they loved that cartoon. This isn't much different, really.


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 05:59 PM

So Mainframe went from doing the direct competition (Action Man) to animating the contiuation of the show itself via DTV? Wild.

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 11:26 AM

This looks like it will try to be edgy but ends up failing and will be just cheesy.





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