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@  Bass X0 : (16 July 2020 - 09:43 AM)

Circuit-breaker '84, this is Megatron's rubber duck. We've got ourselves a Rodimus Convoy. Do you copy? Over.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 07:06 AM)

I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've made my point very clear and have nothing more to say on the issue.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 07:00 AM)

I can't do anything to prevent hurricanes either but it'd be absurd to suggest I therefore shouldn't talk about them.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:57 AM)

Basically neither you nor I even like South Park anyways so the best you can do is leave it alone rather than suggest it is corrupting hearts and minds.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

In that case I'm... not sure what the point is?

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:53 AM)

Nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. You can't prevent people from doing it. It's an artistic work with fans. I don't think I'm off-track.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:51 AM)

As far as I can tell you just of course'd the thing you were poopooing...

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

Also, this is starting to get a bit too serious for the shoutbox (though it already was)

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

"It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing." Of course, that's South Park's "artistic" style. It's what South Park's audience wants, and that's okay.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

You can probably finish the sentence "I got 50% of my sense of humor from" with the name of some fictional work.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

And it still wouldn't be S.W.A.T.'ss or Grey's Anatomy's or South Park's fault.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

The idea isn't that people are taking South Park's in-universe parody moral lessons seriously (though as Nevermore points out, you can't safely assume that isn't also happening). It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

"People say" those people are right, and you should listen to them. We can't protect people from themselves, but you can advise them well.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:27 AM)

So many medical disasters because someone took what they saw on a hospital show at face value.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:25 AM)

So many people who think police and court procedure works like it does in Hollywood, and act accordingly. Sometimes to their own disadvantage, sometimes just to the frustration of well-meaning authorities.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:24 AM)

People say "you shouldn't take your morals from a TV show" all the time, but regardless of how these people want things to work doesn't mean other people aren't doing it anyways.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:01 AM)

And I mean, if you're looking for a 1950s conservative position on something, it's certainly that a TV show is rotting children's minds.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:00 AM)

Conservatives are not hiding under the bed waiting to ruin... uh... Family Guy of all things? And like, nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. Expecting such things is impractical.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

It was just the cartoon with those foul mouthed kids in the UK until that bubble burst after the movie. Reviewers joked the movies target audience would be unable to see it for the rating.

@  Paladin : (15 July 2020 - 05:14 PM)

see also: "South Park." the show that poisoned a generation by teaching them "it's stupid to feel for other people."

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:04 AM)

'Take that! People who care about things!'

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:02 AM)

With Brian, he stopped being the voice of reason and started to be the right wing notion of a liberal, someone who's lazy, pretentious, doesn't work at anything, is every bit as abusive as the rest of the cast and only wins arguments with strawmen.

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

Of course, I stopped enjoying Family Guy around that time, so my bias is clear. XP

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:54 AM)

Is it because they changed or we changed?  Stuff that was charming, or at least, funny at first can get really annoying the longer you know a person... and I find that can go for fictional characters as well.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

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@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:45 AM)

One example is Family Guy where around season 8 Brian is suddenly reviled by everyone and has acted way out of character since.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:44 AM)

My least favorite thing in fiction is when it changes hands so you get a author, writer or showrunner who hates a character or messes with a arc/layout.

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

You'll shoot yer eye out, kid.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I shot the sheriff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:24 PM)

han wasn't even in the movie until later

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:23 PM)

the stormtroopers shot first

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Maclunkey

@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH


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#41 ZakuConvoy

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 10:30 PM

LOL.  It was just a joke.  Mind you I had been saving that one since it happened...

 

I think I only had a dozen or so posts, anyway.  No hard feelings.

 

 

 

EDIT: And, um...we might've jumped the gun?

 

https://www.sonicsta...kely-cancelled/

 

Now the rep is saying the subscriptions were just temporarily offline.  Don't know what to think now.


Edited by ZakuConvoy, 17 January 2017 - 10:48 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 11:03 PM

Well if it does happen hopefully SEGA will license it out to someone else.... Like maybe IDW. They have had some good luck since Nickelodeon gave them the TMNT license, but even if Archie allows their old material to be used I'm sure they would be under the same current restrictions on the older material as well. But most likely we'd start from ground zero and most likely lose the SATA.M. characters. :(


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:57 AM

As long as Ian and Yardley are still around.

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#44 Tyranno

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 01:11 PM

New solicits came out.

 

Comic's not cancelled.

 

Praise Ian.


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 04:32 PM

(Well, not YET, at least...)

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#46 Tyranno

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 04:52 PM

The fear was that they were immediately halting production.

 

Soliciting issues months away goes against that.


"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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#47 Daith

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 04:13 PM

Immediately? Never thought that was the case myself. But stopping subscriptions would cause the concern for the future past what was known. Though I can't say April's Sonic solicits have me really hyped to buy either issue.


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Posted 24 January 2017 - 04:19 PM

Look, ANYTHING'S going to struggle to follow up a Sonic & Antoine issue and a Bunnie & Blaze issue.

Though... who's left after this? Tails and Rotor?


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Posted 31 January 2017 - 10:07 AM

 

As far as I understand it...they actually do own these characters.  From what little I remember reading about this, Archie never actually had any of these writers sign a work-for-hire contract.  Without that, technically all these comic-only characters from that era are the rightful property of their creators...unless they are deemed derivative.  Of course, somehow, "evil Sonic" was deemed not derivative and I guess Penders has a right to him, so who even knows.
 
Common sense and legal right are often in direct conflict with each other.
 
Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.


They did have them sign work-for-hire contracts. It's just that those contracts were thrown out by a warehouse worker while in storage, and the photocopies that Archie has aren't eligible in court.

 

 

IIRC, they claimed the contracts were lost in a fire.

 

Also, surprised this got its own thread. Was the topic in danger of getting lost in all the posts the other one gets each day? ;P

 

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 03:41 PM

Sorta an update?  Maybe?  Archie Comics' solicits for May are out, but no Sonic comics:

 

http://majorspoilers...omics-may-2017/

 

Mind you, they also don't have any of their Red Circle superhero stuff or horror series on there either, so maybe they're just taking a month off.  Or maybe these solicitations are incomplete, but I don't think so.   And the Sonic comics are usually pretty reliable for coming out monthly, usually.



#51 Daith

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:52 PM

Between the cancellation of the FCBD comic and this. Things aren't looking up

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#52 Tyranno

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:23 PM

Sorta an update?  Maybe?  Archie Comics' solicits for May are out, but no Sonic comics:

 

http://majorspoilers...omics-may-2017/

 

Mind you, they also don't have any of their Red Circle superhero stuff or horror series on there either, so maybe they're just taking a month off.  Or maybe these solicitations are incomplete, but I don't think so.   And the Sonic comics are usually pretty reliable for coming out monthly, usually.

 

This happened when the comic's release was delayed before. This happened last year.

 

Just keep that in mind.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 11:26 AM

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#54 Confuzor

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:02 PM

Whut?

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:55 PM

"ORIGINAL CHARACTER, DO NOT STEAL" is a meme commonly associated with Sonic "original characters," or OCs, who are often just recolors of existing characters. It mutated into "DONUT STEEL" because the internet has a deep love for horrible puns.

 

Anyway, what's going on is that people who have actually officially worked on Sonic are claiming Sega stole the characters that they made for Sega. It's why they retconned so many of the old cast out of the comic - Ken Penders claimed the characters he created to be his own, so he sued Archie. Archie couldn't find the rights to the characters they owned - they claim that they burnt the documents accidentally. And thus Penders got his mitts on all the echidna characters like Julie-Su and Enerjak, and used thim in his own horrible comics.


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#56 Confuzor

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

Yeah I know. It was just the Donut Steel pun that confuzed me.

#57 Tyranno

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:08 PM

"ORIGINAL CHARACTER, DO NOT STEAL" is a meme commonly associated with Sonic "original characters," or OCs, who are often just recolors of existing characters. It mutated into "DONUT STEEL" because the internet has a deep love for horrible puns.

 

Anyway, what's going on is that people who have actually officially worked on Sonic are claiming Sega stole the characters that they made for Sega. It's why they retconned so many of the old cast out of the comic - Ken Penders claimed the characters he created to be his own, so he sued Archie. Archie couldn't find the rights to the characters they owned - they claim that they burnt the documents accidentally. And thus Penders got his mitts on all the echidna characters like Julie-Su and Enerjak, and used thim in his own horrible comics.

 

Ken Penders never sued Archie. He sued Sega and Activision for "Sonic Chronicles" allegedly infringing on his copyright, and Archie in turn sued HIM.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:19 PM

As a general comment, I've long felt the guiding rule for Sonic fan characters should be "How would this character handle in a game?".

 

If people could use that going forward, we'd see less 'hedgehog head on a human body' designs going forward.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 03:04 AM


I think that may miss the point of most Sonic OCs...


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#60 Daith

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 07:49 PM

Well another month and still no sign of Sonic comics in the Archie June solicitations. I'm not liking this.


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