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@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 05:28 PM)

And a better headsculpt.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 05:23 PM)

It actually has half decent gimmicks too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 04:03 PM)

It's still crap but at least it takes up less space.

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 10:31 AM)

I'd rather have Armada Sideswipe than Alternator Sideswipe.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 June 2017 - 09:50 AM)

What he's really doing is buying all the sideswipe, so that after the apocolypse.. He'll have an army to take ove the world!

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2017 - 09:00 AM)

We could be taking this the wrong way. What if this person means to sacrifice their own money to prevent Armada Sideswipes from falling into the hands of those who don't know better?

@  Rycochet : (24 June 2017 - 06:26 AM)

People say silly things online all the time, usually followed by a smilie or a wink. Take away the context and they go from being a joke to absurd hyperbole.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2017 - 06:07 AM)

But that would miss the entire point of hyperbole.

@  Pennpenn : (24 June 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Well that's a stupid attitude from someone who would waste a lot of money. I mean, they should just... not buy movie toys?

@  Bass X0 : (24 June 2017 - 04:52 AM)

Most insane thing I read of the day: "I would rather buy 100 Armada Sideswipes and PRiD Airachnids than buy any Bayformers crap"

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:10 PM)

His dialogue is full of allusions to his infamous lookalike, though sometimes as subversions. Oh, and sometimes he sings Karaoke. Check his rendition of "My Way", it's on Youtube.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:09 PM)

The entire idea behind the character is that he looks and talks like Hitler, but is actually a good guy. Maybe with a dickish attitude, but he's not the villain.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Alfons Hatler is a supporting character from a German Edgar Wallace parody movie and its sequel.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 06:07 PM)

I'd like to remind everyone that Alfons Hatler exists, which is all sorts of awesome.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 05:41 PM)

See, you say that and you know there's new a bubsy game coming. Don't make us keep re-baselining our horror reactions.

@  Sean Whitmore : (23 June 2017 - 03:31 PM)

Epilogue is the worst thing to happen to mankind. And I'm including, like, all the wars and stuff.

@  Evac : (23 June 2017 - 02:11 PM)

... Did Linkara cover that one?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 01:50 PM)

the comics where Barbara quit being Batgirl after she was beaten into a miscarriage.

@  Boomhauer : (23 June 2017 - 01:20 PM)

His choice to be Batman had more punch when he was a completely normal guy met with the same dillema instead of the DNA garbage that muddies the message for no other reason than to give Old Bruce another ass-kiss before the show is over. It's a boring episode whose entire concept is repeating things already known and spark Squawkbox arguments.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 01:11 PM)

But he still chose to be batman. Not only did he chose to be batman, he did it better.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I have to agree.. Part of the problem with Epilogue is it takes away from "Terry CHOSE to be batman" and changed it a bit to "Terry was designed to be batman."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Do you mean the DCAU continuity comics or Future's End?

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 11:36 AM)

can we all at least agree it's a better ending for Batman Beyond than the comics?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 10:52 AM)

There was no evidence of it to support it in the show, and generally using someone to MAKE a batman is a jerkish thing to do.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:37 AM)

why does it matter?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

I think the problem with Epilogue was making Terry effectivly Batman's son.

@  Benbot : (23 June 2017 - 10:24 AM)

what's your problem with it?

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 10:02 AM)

Epilogue give a great end to Batman Beyond and even has a Mask of the Phantasm character

@  MrBlud : (23 June 2017 - 09:55 AM)

I don't post in the Shoutbox often, but when I do, it's to confirm "Epilogue" is garbage.

@  Paladin : (23 June 2017 - 08:43 AM)

even "Epilogue" ? (braces for that argument again)

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Its a really great show.

@  The Predaking : (23 June 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Justice League unlimited

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2017 - 08:14 AM)

Sprinkles or nothing!

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2017 - 07:06 AM)

>_< 3 hrs, $5,628 to go for the Two Scoops Kickstarter http://kck.st/2qgIkCd

@  wonko the sane? : (23 June 2017 - 06:16 AM)

Yeah, miles is only used when accuracy doesn't actually matter, or we're dealing with americans.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2017 - 03:55 AM)

We even use "miles" in similar contexts in German even though we use kilometers for actual measurements.

@  The Doctor Who : (23 June 2017 - 02:40 AM)

Makes sense, really. Colloquialisms exist in their own weird little universe where terminology can persist after it's no longer relevant otherwise.

@  abates : (23 June 2017 - 01:17 AM)

We also measure car milage in kilometres but still call it milage.

@  Bass X0 : (22 June 2017 - 05:47 PM)

No. We still say miles. Kilometers is only really used for actual specific distances whereas miles being used in a common phrase is still miles.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 June 2017 - 04:59 PM)

People from outside the U.S.: as we are all English-proficient here, do you ever use the phrase "I saw it coming from miles away.", or do you say "kilometers" instead?

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:06 PM)

Wow, that was supposed to :shout" hours ago...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 04:05 PM)

Indeed. Especially on opening week. We're talking avg, 5-8%. It's more at your discount/sub-run houses.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 June 2017 - 10:25 AM)

AMC knows it, freakin $7 for a regular drink

@  Paladin : (22 June 2017 - 08:22 AM)

and if you want to support your theaters, buy more concessions. because they get SHIT from the ticket sales...

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:15 AM)

So, we charged an extra $1 per. F'em

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:13 AM)

First, they threatened to stop sending us digital because we weren't upcharging for it (back when we were still "mixed" format). Then they threatened to stop sendingus 3D because we didn't upcharge for those either initially.

@  Hg Dragon : (22 June 2017 - 08:12 AM)

Can't blame the theater totally for those ticket prices. The studios have a say in them as well.

@  Noideaforaname : (22 June 2017 - 12:00 AM)

Charge 'em for the lice! Extra for the mice! Two percent for looking in the mirror twice!

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 June 2017 - 11:45 PM)

Even here in Canada where price gouging is commonplace, IMAX 3-D is still $19.50

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 June 2017 - 11:44 PM)

$27 a ticket? That's ludicrous


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Archie gets sued over Sonic OCs AGAIN


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#41 ZakuConvoy

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 10:30 PM

LOL.  It was just a joke.  Mind you I had been saving that one since it happened...

 

I think I only had a dozen or so posts, anyway.  No hard feelings.

 

 

 

EDIT: And, um...we might've jumped the gun?

 

https://www.sonicsta...kely-cancelled/

 

Now the rep is saying the subscriptions were just temporarily offline.  Don't know what to think now.


Edited by ZakuConvoy, 17 January 2017 - 10:48 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 11:03 PM

Well if it does happen hopefully SEGA will license it out to someone else.... Like maybe IDW. They have had some good luck since Nickelodeon gave them the TMNT license, but even if Archie allows their old material to be used I'm sure they would be under the same current restrictions on the older material as well. But most likely we'd start from ground zero and most likely lose the SATA.M. characters. :(


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:57 AM

As long as Ian and Yardley are still around.

#44 Razorsaw

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 01:11 PM

New solicits came out.

 

Comic's not cancelled.

 

Praise Ian.


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#45 Broadside

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 04:32 PM

(Well, not YET, at least...)

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#46 Razorsaw

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 04:52 PM

The fear was that they were immediately halting production.

 

Soliciting issues months away goes against that.


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The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 24 January 2017 - 04:13 PM

Immediately? Never thought that was the case myself. But stopping subscriptions would cause the concern for the future past what was known. Though I can't say April's Sonic solicits have me really hyped to buy either issue.


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Posted 24 January 2017 - 04:19 PM

Look, ANYTHING'S going to struggle to follow up a Sonic & Antoine issue and a Bunnie & Blaze issue.

Though... who's left after this? Tails and Rotor?


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Posted 31 January 2017 - 10:07 AM

 

As far as I understand it...they actually do own these characters.  From what little I remember reading about this, Archie never actually had any of these writers sign a work-for-hire contract.  Without that, technically all these comic-only characters from that era are the rightful property of their creators...unless they are deemed derivative.  Of course, somehow, "evil Sonic" was deemed not derivative and I guess Penders has a right to him, so who even knows.
 
Common sense and legal right are often in direct conflict with each other.
 
Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.


They did have them sign work-for-hire contracts. It's just that those contracts were thrown out by a warehouse worker while in storage, and the photocopies that Archie has aren't eligible in court.

 

 

IIRC, they claimed the contracts were lost in a fire.

 

Also, surprised this got its own thread. Was the topic in danger of getting lost in all the posts the other one gets each day? ;P

 

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 03:41 PM

Sorta an update?  Maybe?  Archie Comics' solicits for May are out, but no Sonic comics:

 

http://majorspoilers...omics-may-2017/

 

Mind you, they also don't have any of their Red Circle superhero stuff or horror series on there either, so maybe they're just taking a month off.  Or maybe these solicitations are incomplete, but I don't think so.   And the Sonic comics are usually pretty reliable for coming out monthly, usually.



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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:52 PM

Between the cancellation of the FCBD comic and this. Things aren't looking up
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#52 Razorsaw

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:23 PM

Sorta an update?  Maybe?  Archie Comics' solicits for May are out, but no Sonic comics:

 

http://majorspoilers...omics-may-2017/

 

Mind you, they also don't have any of their Red Circle superhero stuff or horror series on there either, so maybe they're just taking a month off.  Or maybe these solicitations are incomplete, but I don't think so.   And the Sonic comics are usually pretty reliable for coming out monthly, usually.

 

This happened when the comic's release was delayed before. This happened last year.

 

Just keep that in mind.


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The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 11:26 AM

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#54 Confuzor

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:02 PM

Whut?

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:55 PM

"ORIGINAL CHARACTER, DO NOT STEAL" is a meme commonly associated with Sonic "original characters," or OCs, who are often just recolors of existing characters. It mutated into "DONUT STEEL" because the internet has a deep love for horrible puns.

 

Anyway, what's going on is that people who have actually officially worked on Sonic are claiming Sega stole the characters that they made for Sega. It's why they retconned so many of the old cast out of the comic - Ken Penders claimed the characters he created to be his own, so he sued Archie. Archie couldn't find the rights to the characters they owned - they claim that they burnt the documents accidentally. And thus Penders got his mitts on all the echidna characters like Julie-Su and Enerjak, and used thim in his own horrible comics.


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#56 Confuzor

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

Yeah I know. It was just the Donut Steel pun that confuzed me.

#57 Razorsaw

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:08 PM

"ORIGINAL CHARACTER, DO NOT STEAL" is a meme commonly associated with Sonic "original characters," or OCs, who are often just recolors of existing characters. It mutated into "DONUT STEEL" because the internet has a deep love for horrible puns.

 

Anyway, what's going on is that people who have actually officially worked on Sonic are claiming Sega stole the characters that they made for Sega. It's why they retconned so many of the old cast out of the comic - Ken Penders claimed the characters he created to be his own, so he sued Archie. Archie couldn't find the rights to the characters they owned - they claim that they burnt the documents accidentally. And thus Penders got his mitts on all the echidna characters like Julie-Su and Enerjak, and used thim in his own horrible comics.

 

Ken Penders never sued Archie. He sued Sega and Activision for "Sonic Chronicles" allegedly infringing on his copyright, and Archie in turn sued HIM.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:19 PM

As a general comment, I've long felt the guiding rule for Sonic fan characters should be "How would this character handle in a game?".

 

If people could use that going forward, we'd see less 'hedgehog head on a human body' designs going forward.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 03:04 AM


I think that may miss the point of most Sonic OCs...


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 07:49 PM

Well another month and still no sign of Sonic comics in the Archie June solicitations. I'm not liking this.


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