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@  RichardT1977 : (28 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

@BlackMax Thank you, Dimitri Martin.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 07:55 PM)

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'... Into the future~♪

@  BlackMax : (28 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

God spelled backwards is dog. Cat spelled backwards is tac. Pterodactyl spelled backwards is really hard to pronounce.

@  Waspinator : (28 April 2017 - 06:46 PM)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 06:12 PM)

you too, eh?

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 05:40 PM)

Well, I don't know about you, but personally I clawed my way free from the corpse of a goat during the autumn equinox.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 05:37 PM)

Yep. Also diseases are painful. And trucks are weird!

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 04:41 PM)

we're all someone's daughters... we're all someone's sons...

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Your creative writing professor is a god, then.

@  Diecast : (28 April 2017 - 03:17 PM)

My creative writing professor read that to my class once, all those years ago.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Sorry, whenever anyone brings up anything related to badfic, I immediately think of Repercussions of Evil.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM)

"No! I must kill the trolls" he shouted. The radio said "No, John. You are the trolls" And then John was a shitposter.

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 02:25 PM)

you lived like a spammer ans died to an moderator

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

He lived a spammer, and died a moderator.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (28 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill posts along with the good and let me be judged accordingly."

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Fool! Snark is my friend! Allow me to introduce you to it!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.


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#21 Sockie

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:28 PM

As far as I understand it...they actually do own these characters.  From what little I remember reading about this, Archie never actually had any of these writers sign a work-for-hire contract.  Without that, technically all these comic-only characters from that era are the rightful property of their creators...unless they are deemed derivative.  Of course, somehow, "evil Sonic" was deemed not derivative and I guess Penders has a right to him, so who even knows.
 
Common sense and legal right are often in direct conflict with each other.
 
Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.


They did have them sign work-for-hire contracts. It's just that those contracts were thrown out by a warehouse worker while in storage, and the photocopies that Archie has aren't eligible in court.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:04 PM

So, we're looking at the combination of scumbag legal tactics and incompetent record keeping?



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Posted 04 August 2016 - 02:28 AM

Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.  

 

But why would this affect the current storylines. None of the characters mentioned in this lawsuit have anything to do with the current world.


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Posted 04 August 2016 - 09:46 AM

 

Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.  

 

But why would this affect the current storylines. None of the characters mentioned in this lawsuit have anything to do with the current world.

 

"Sued into Sega revoking the license" affects the current world pretty deeply.


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Posted 04 August 2016 - 10:16 AM

Yes, but not in any way that could possibly lead to "Mega Drive becoming the new "real" continuity". I'm not even sure where that came from.

That said, I would LOVE a Mega Drive style ongoing if possible...


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#26 Daith

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 10:24 AM

It is one thing if SEGA were to pull away but that's not what I was talking about. As it stands the only thing this should effect is the sales of back issues and collections of older material. But as I said it really shouldn't effect the current world since none of Fulop's characters are in the new revamped world.


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Posted 04 August 2016 - 10:48 AM

Fulop was totally put up to this by Penders just to troll Archie.


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#28 Razorsaw

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 12:29 PM

Penders said he didn't have anything to do with it.

Considering these lawsuits are expensive and Fulop either formed or joined a company in order to manage/utilize his copyrights, I reaaaally doubt he's doing this in a lark.

It's ill advised but not a lark.

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 10:16 PM

Eh, my thought about Mega Drive becoming the "new" continuity was just my own baseless speculation.  

 

Sega probably wouldn't want to get rid of the comics completely, since it makes them a steady, predictable stream of cash.  They probably need that right now.  Sega has also shown a desire to make the comics more like the games in the past, as well as trying to get more hands on with the comic at times.  Archie also got rid of all the old comic only characters last time they had a big lawsuit, even ones made by Ian, like Shard and Thrash.  I could see this new lawsuit being the straw that broke the comics back, creatively.  If Sega insisted on the comic only using characters from the games, or even only doing stricter adaptations than what the Unleashed adaptation has turned out to be...I could see the higher ups deciding to just scrap the whole thing and start over from scratch.  Nostalgia appeal, new #1 sales boost, and all.

 

After all, even though Sega should own all these new comic characters and tv show characters now, they're not really characters that the main branch of Sega likes to use.  Sega proper doesn't really seem to be interested in expanding things to much beyond the Adventures characters, barring the odd one shot characters for each game, like Chip.

 

Plus...With Shattered World wrapping up everything the comics done for the last three years or so and Mega Drive feeling kind of retcon-y and like a different universe anyway...There are less organic ways they could do it, if they had to.

 

Like I said, baseless speculation.


Edited by Zaku Prime, 04 August 2016 - 10:24 PM.


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Posted 05 August 2016 - 10:15 AM

I'm not sure how Mega Drive can be considered "retcon-y and like a different universe" when it literally is a totally different thing that only takes into account Sonic 1-S&K and Sonic CD with zero ties to anything else.


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Posted 05 August 2016 - 06:35 PM

I guess I just assumed it was canon to the main comic, but I don't think they ever said anything one way or the other to that effect, did they?

 

EDIT: In my defense, the recap page does say it takes place in the "Sonic Comic Universe", unlike the Boom comics.  Still, yeah, could just be intended to be a different universe.


Edited by Zaku Prime, 05 August 2016 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 05 August 2016 - 06:38 PM

There's nothing that says it is or isn't.

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 08:09 AM

Jon Gray has left Archie and thus my interest is gone with him.


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 11:49 AM

Oh, shit. Looks like the end's in sight, guys...


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 12:29 PM

I hope that man festers in the mediocrity he made for himself forever.


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 12:36 PM

That's AWFUL! The last Sonic I read was with the mystic cave but it can't be cancelled! What's been happening?

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:37 PM

Well...nuts.  I didn't think they'd go THAT far! (And, yeah, I'm Zaku Prime.  Had to make a new account when Kalidor killed the younglings purged the "inactive" protoform accounts.)

 

Isn't Sonic still one of their better selling comics?  I mean, maybe Sega took it out of their hands, or maybe Archie is going ALL in on their reboots, but still.  

 

I'm...shocked.  I don't know if I'll really believe it until Ian Flynn says something about it...if he's allowed to.  This comic's been around ever since I was a kid collecting comics.  This...huh.

 

Hopefully, Ian can pull something off for the ending.  I'm not sure what could be satisfying, though.

 

Geez, what a way to "celebrate" the comic's 25th anniversary.

 

Well...maybe we'll finally get the Lost Hedgehog Tales this year, then?  That might be a...somewhat bright spot.



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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:38 PM

Lost Hedgehog tales?

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:44 PM

It's a thing Ian Flynn...said he would be doing on his blog.  Basically, explaining what he was originally planning for the Sonic comic before the Penders reboot up to issue...300, I think he's said.  He just has a "prologue" with what had been going on with the comic before the changed story arcs up now, though.  He's said he had to put it on hold because of the other lawsuits that popped up after Penders.

 

It's here:

 

http://bumbleking.co...hedgehog-tales/

 

Not much there, but hopefully, we'll get something later on.


Edited by ZakuConvoy, 17 January 2017 - 09:45 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 10:14 PM

Well...nuts.  I didn't think they'd go THAT far! (And, yeah, I'm Zaku Prime.  Had to make a new account when Kalidor killed the younglings purged the "inactive" protoform accounts.)

 

Isn't Sonic still one of their better selling comics?  I mean, maybe Sega took it out of their hands, or maybe Archie is going ALL in on their reboots, but still.  

 

I'm...shocked.  I don't know if I'll really believe it until Ian Flynn says something about it...if he's allowed to.  This comic's been around ever since I was a kid collecting comics.  This...huh.

 

Hopefully, Ian can pull something off for the ending.  I'm not sure what could be satisfying, though.

 

Geez, what a way to "celebrate" the comic's 25th anniversary.

 

Well...maybe we'll finally get the Lost Hedgehog Tales this year, then?  That might be a...somewhat bright spot.

 

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