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@  RichardT1977 : (28 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

@BlackMax Thank you, Dimitri Martin.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 07:55 PM)

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'... Into the future~♪

@  BlackMax : (28 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

God spelled backwards is dog. Cat spelled backwards is tac. Pterodactyl spelled backwards is really hard to pronounce.

@  Waspinator : (28 April 2017 - 06:46 PM)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 06:12 PM)

you too, eh?

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 05:40 PM)

Well, I don't know about you, but personally I clawed my way free from the corpse of a goat during the autumn equinox.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 05:37 PM)

Yep. Also diseases are painful. And trucks are weird!

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 04:41 PM)

we're all someone's daughters... we're all someone's sons...

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Your creative writing professor is a god, then.

@  Diecast : (28 April 2017 - 03:17 PM)

My creative writing professor read that to my class once, all those years ago.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Sorry, whenever anyone brings up anything related to badfic, I immediately think of Repercussions of Evil.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM)

"No! I must kill the trolls" he shouted. The radio said "No, John. You are the trolls" And then John was a shitposter.

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 02:25 PM)

you lived like a spammer ans died to an moderator

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

He lived a spammer, and died a moderator.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (28 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill posts along with the good and let me be judged accordingly."

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Fool! Snark is my friend! Allow me to introduce you to it!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.


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#1 Broadside

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 10:29 AM

http://www.tssznews....ment-in-comics/

Scott Fulop, this time. Creator of such enduring characters as Mammoth Mogul and Sergeant Simian, and friend of Ken Penders.
Given how hard Archie had to fight to not get their license stripped in the last lawsuit, this might be the end for the Sonic comics... and probably Archie, too, given how much they're struggling.
Sigh.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 10:38 AM

Argh...  Just survive long enough to complete Sonic Mega Drive and I'll buy you the finest cemetery plot.

 

Also, mandatory "Ken Penders is a douchebag" line here.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:04 AM

`"LEAVE SONIC ALONE! :( :( :(

 

 

So did Archie just tick off all it's furry writers years back? Sure seems like it's people from the post Endgame era or right around that time..


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#4 Broadside

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:08 AM

I think they're just hacks who are suing for money they were never promised because they can't get work anywhere else.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Penders is a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.

Edited by Broadside, 03 August 2016 - 03:03 PM.

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#5 Razorsaw

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:21 AM

I think we need to sit and wait here before we call this the end of the comic.

"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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#6 Broadside

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:33 AM

Well, yeah, obviously. It's entirely possible that the entire thing will be thrown out, since he waited this long to make a claim on it. But it's possible.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:35 AM

It'd best not affect Archie Proper.  If Afterlife with Archie is compromised over some yiffy bullshit I'mma be pissed.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:40 AM

The thread title is also inaccurate. This isn't over ownership of the characters. Archie has already abandoned the use of these characters and Fulop is the only one making a claim of ownership. This is about the past works in which they appeared.


"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:52 AM

I'm not sure how it's inaccurate. They're still getting sued for selling comics with these characters in (digital comics and reprints).

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#10 Razorsaw

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:55 AM

It just sounds like it's being framed as another battle for ownership of characters themselves. *shrugs*


"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:57 AM

I think they're just hacks who are suing for money they were never promised because they can't get work anywhere else.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.


Furman?

This just bites. I liked the Fearsome Foursome under Flynn's pen. Man, I hope Sonic doesn't fold like Megaman.

Btw, there's been no new issues of Afterlife with Archie since 7 or 8?

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:58 AM

Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.


Furman?

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:03 PM

Yes. Furman. That is exactly who I meant. Ken Furman, creator of Sonic characters like Evil Grimlock.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:53 PM

So these people believe that characters they created while working on someone else's property for the purpose of being used in that property somehow belong to them? 

 

Really? 


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:45 PM

SuING AS usual, I see?


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:46 PM

No. Bad.

 

Go to your room and think about what you've done.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:50 PM

Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary 

 

Finally! Someone agrees with me! Too bad this is a Sonic thread :p


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 02:53 PM

No. Bad.

 

Go to your room and think about what you've done.

The possibility of the Sonic comic being cancelled because of one of some Penders-esque shenanigans is punishment enough >=V


Edited by ShadowMan024, 03 August 2016 - 02:54 PM.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 03:22 PM

No. Bad.

 

Go to your room and think about what you've done.

We have a main Sonic thread for PINGAS!

 

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:18 PM

As far as I understand it...they actually do own these characters.  From what little I remember reading about this, Archie never actually had any of these writers sign a work-for-hire contract.  Without that, technically all these comic-only characters from that era are the rightful property of their creators...unless they are deemed derivative.  Of course, somehow, "evil Sonic" was deemed not derivative and I guess Penders has a right to him, so who even knows.

 

Common sense and legal right are often in direct conflict with each other.

 

Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.  


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