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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

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Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

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@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

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@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#1 Broadside

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 10:29 AM

http://www.tssznews....ment-in-comics/

Scott Fulop, this time. Creator of such enduring characters as Mammoth Mogul and Sergeant Simian, and friend of Ken Penders.
Given how hard Archie had to fight to not get their license stripped in the last lawsuit, this might be the end for the Sonic comics... and probably Archie, too, given how much they're struggling.
Sigh.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 10:38 AM

Argh...  Just survive long enough to complete Sonic Mega Drive and I'll buy you the finest cemetery plot.

 

Also, mandatory "Ken Penders is a douchebag" line here.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:04 AM

`"LEAVE SONIC ALONE! :( :( :(

 

 

So did Archie just tick off all it's furry writers years back? Sure seems like it's people from the post Endgame era or right around that time..


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#4 Broadside

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:08 AM

I think they're just hacks who are suing for money they were never promised because they can't get work anywhere else.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Penders is a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.

Edited by Broadside, 03 August 2016 - 03:03 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:21 AM

I think we need to sit and wait here before we call this the end of the comic.

"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:33 AM

Well, yeah, obviously. It's entirely possible that the entire thing will be thrown out, since he waited this long to make a claim on it. But it's possible.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:35 AM

It'd best not affect Archie Proper.  If Afterlife with Archie is compromised over some yiffy bullshit I'mma be pissed.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:40 AM

The thread title is also inaccurate. This isn't over ownership of the characters. Archie has already abandoned the use of these characters and Fulop is the only one making a claim of ownership. This is about the past works in which they appeared.


"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:52 AM

I'm not sure how it's inaccurate. They're still getting sued for selling comics with these characters in (digital comics and reprints).

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#10 Razorsaw

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:55 AM

It just sounds like it's being framed as another battle for ownership of characters themselves. *shrugs*


"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:57 AM

I think they're just hacks who are suing for money they were never promised because they can't get work anywhere else.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.


Furman?

This just bites. I liked the Fearsome Foursome under Flynn's pen. Man, I hope Sonic doesn't fold like Megaman.

Btw, there's been no new issues of Afterlife with Archie since 7 or 8?

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:58 AM

Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.


Furman?

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:03 PM

Yes. Furman. That is exactly who I meant. Ken Furman, creator of Sonic characters like Evil Grimlock.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:53 PM

So these people believe that characters they created while working on someone else's property for the purpose of being used in that property somehow belong to them? 

 

Really? 


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:45 PM

SuING AS usual, I see?


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:46 PM

No. Bad.

 

Go to your room and think about what you've done.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:50 PM

Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary 

 

Finally! Someone agrees with me! Too bad this is a Sonic thread :p


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 02:53 PM

No. Bad.

 

Go to your room and think about what you've done.

The possibility of the Sonic comic being cancelled because of one of some Penders-esque shenanigans is punishment enough >=V


Edited by ShadowMan024, 03 August 2016 - 02:54 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 03:22 PM

No. Bad.

 

Go to your room and think about what you've done.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:18 PM

As far as I understand it...they actually do own these characters.  From what little I remember reading about this, Archie never actually had any of these writers sign a work-for-hire contract.  Without that, technically all these comic-only characters from that era are the rightful property of their creators...unless they are deemed derivative.  Of course, somehow, "evil Sonic" was deemed not derivative and I guess Penders has a right to him, so who even knows.

 

Common sense and legal right are often in direct conflict with each other.

 

Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad.  Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.  


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