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Scott Fulop, this time. Creator of such enduring characters as Mammoth Mogul and Sergeant Simian, and friend of Ken Penders.
Given how hard Archie had to fight to not get their license stripped in the last lawsuit, this might be the end for the Sonic comics... and probably Archie, too, given how much they're struggling.
Sigh.
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Archie gets sued over Sonic OCs AGAIN
Started by Broadside, Aug 03 2016 10:29 AM
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:04 AM
`"LEAVE SONIC ALONE! 
So did Archie just tick off all it's furry writers years back? Sure seems like it's people from the post Endgame era or right around that time..
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:08 AM
I think they're just hacks who are suing for money they were never promised because they can't get work anywhere else.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Penders is a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Penders is a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.
Edited by Broadside, 03 August 2016 - 03:03 PM.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:21 AM
I think we need to sit and wait here before we call this the end of the comic.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:33 AM
Well, yeah, obviously. It's entirely possible that the entire thing will be thrown out, since he waited this long to make a claim on it. But it's possible.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:40 AM
The thread title is also inaccurate. This isn't over ownership of the characters. Archie has already abandoned the use of these characters and Fulop is the only one making a claim of ownership. This is about the past works in which they appeared.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:55 AM
It just sounds like it's being framed as another battle for ownership of characters themselves. *shrugs*
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 11:57 AM
I think they're just hacks who are suing for money they were never promised because they can't get work anywhere else.
Well, Fulop is, anyway. Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary who deserves to own these characters. Including the original Sonic ones.
Furman?
This just bites. I liked the Fearsome Foursome under Flynn's pen. Man, I hope Sonic doesn't fold like Megaman.
Btw, there's been no new issues of Afterlife with Archie since 7 or 8?
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:03 PM
Yes. Furman. That is exactly who I meant. Ken Furman, creator of Sonic characters like Evil Grimlock.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:53 PM
So these people believe that characters they created while working on someone else's property for the purpose of being used in that property somehow belong to them?
Really?
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:45 PM
SuING AS usual, I see?
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:46 PM
No. Bad.
Go to your room and think about what you've done.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:50 PM
Furman's a hack who genuinely believes he's a genius and visionary
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 02:53 PM
No. Bad.
Go to your room and think about what you've done.
The possibility of the Sonic comic being cancelled because of one of some Penders-esque shenanigans is punishment enough >=V
Edited by ShadowMan024, 03 August 2016 - 02:54 PM.
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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:18 PM
As far as I understand it...they actually do own these characters. From what little I remember reading about this, Archie never actually had any of these writers sign a work-for-hire contract. Without that, technically all these comic-only characters from that era are the rightful property of their creators...unless they are deemed derivative. Of course, somehow, "evil Sonic" was deemed not derivative and I guess Penders has a right to him, so who even knows.
Common sense and legal right are often in direct conflict with each other.
Of course, if this gets the comic killed off...or even if they decide to make the Mega Drive books the new "real" continuity...I'm going to be mad. Ian just got done trying to rebuild this universe, it be a shame to let all that just be a waste.
Edited by Zaku Prime, 03 August 2016 - 09:21 PM.
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