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@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.


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#501 Sukoshiko

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 03:36 PM

I only have to glance at his posts to tell if a movie is good or bad generally.

-ZacWilliam, if he disliked it, the film is generally intelligent and wonderful. ;)

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 03:40 PM

They're terrible and shlocky and should be avoided except as free tv movies aired at 2 PM on Sundays.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 04:57 PM

They're terrible and shlocky and should be avoided except as free tv movies aired at 2 PM on Sundays.

That's an unusual description of The Sandbaggers.

You, sir, must have a lower opinion of Humanity than I previously gave you credit for. Congratulations!



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 06:24 PM

Oh, you can ignore me all you want.

Doesn't mean I'm wrong though.

 

Indeed, ignoring you doesn't make you wrong. You being wrong is what makes you wrong.

 

Trying to give a true review a film of which you've only watched 10 minutes is intellectually dishonest, and just plain childish.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 07:41 PM

I would ask that you answer 2 questions, however.


Sure thing!
 

If you don't like the first 10 minutes of something, why do you keep watching?


Ok, well most of the time I do keep watching and that's because when I actually sit down to watch a movie it is because I wanted to see it and I don't trust my snap decision after 10 minutes. Often movies with bad starts get better, but even when they don't, *I* generally want to form an opinion based on the whole movie.

And, if the first 10 minutes of something have been so awful that you are thinking "I'd rather watch a blank screen than this," and yet for some reason you do keep watching, how many times has it actually turned around and become something you enjoyed--really enjoyed to the point that you forgive the utterly horrid first 10 minutes? (As follow ups, would this hypothetical show be better off without those first 10 minutes? If so, why are they even there? If not, and they are crucial to the overall show, was there a way to make them less horrid?)


There have been times that I haven't finished a movie and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't want you to feel like that was my problem with what you said. But I actually have a remarkable example for your question. Captain Marvel. I felt the movie was very strange as I was watching it, especially the first bit of it. Even as I left the theater I was confused and I don't like being confused.  My wife still doesn't ever want to see the movie again and that's okay.  I haven't taken the time to watch it again, but I want to.  Because as I lay in bed that night thinking about the movie, I believe that I understood what the director was doing.  I am disappointed to see that I didn't post it here where I can point you to it, but I wasn't on the Allspark that much for a few years until recently.  But I posted on Facebook and will put it below:

 

"Spoiler free analysis: Captain Marvel might have gotten me back in the theater a second time in the old days without 2 toddlers. I’ve liked it more as I have reflected and look forward to watching it again at home. If you’re thinking of going, I say this: Many times during the movie I felt confused and uncertain about where the story was going and I usually feel like that means the director should have done a better job, but hold on. The director is putting you in Captain Marvel’s shoes. She is confused and uncertain where her mission is going so you will actually be sharing her experience and figuring out who to trust and who are good guys and bad guys right with her. You aren’t watching her go dot to dot through a traditional superhero origin where everything that has to happen is everything you know has to happen. I believe that was intentional and pretty neat. And if you have a little girl that is old enough, go show her that one of the most powerful heroes in the MCU is a girl."

 

Since you have already written a review of the movie, I won't avoid spoilers with you.  Everyone is lying to the main character.  The structure of the movie uses familiar tropes to make you as the audience trust lies just like Carol.  Even casting choices and things they said about them in the lead up to the movie were lies.  They said Jude Law was playing Mar-vell.  He wasn't Mar-vell.  He's actually a villain from the comics.  Right off the bat they show you that Carol has a superpower and they refer to it as a gift they gave her and your average movie goer accepts it.  It's a lie.  They have kidnapped her and are trying to control her.  She's totally brainwashed.  Later they introduce who seems to be the bad guy and they cast Ben Mendelssohn who has lately played high profile bad guys and he's a Skrull which we know are bad guys.  But it is a lie.  As the movie goes you AND Carol get more and more hints that you've been deceived and everything gets turned on its head.  She changes sides when she realizes that the bad guys are the good guys and the good guys are the bad guys.  The freaking Skrulls are the good guys.  The Kree are the bad guys.  Mar-vell is reimagined as a woman that Carol knew.  Her origin was a few years ago.  She just didn't get to finish it then because she was taken by the Kree and brainwashed.  To me, it is all pretty cool.  No one but "This Is Us" has ever so successfully misdirected me.  But the experience that a first time, non-spoiled viewer of this movie gets is VERY interesting.  Even if you watch it now, you won't get that because you were never actually going to even watch the movie without being spoiled and maybe you still won't.  But you are confused and off-balance watching the start of the movie because you are supposed to.  Because Carol is.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 11:07 PM

That's an interesting take.

On the other hand, if that's what's going on, there's a better version of that movie: Donnie Darko. I still see new things in that movie when I watch it. And it managed to not annoy the crap out of me when I first watched it, even though I didn't know what was going on.

 

Compare that to "Your teacher says your not ready, but we're still going to send you on this highly classified important mission. You're going with people you know, but that the audience hasn't been introduced to."

 

Now, starting en media res can work. I've seen it done.

 

Given the way this movie started, though, I honestly can't imagine what anyone saw in it to make them want to watch any further than I did. Heck, I gave it 5 extra minutes just because it was a Marvel movie and I didn't think it could be nearly as bad as the nerdrage wanted us to believe.



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 12:08 AM

You're going with people you know, but that the audience hasn't been introduced to."

 

Korath from Guardians of the Galaxy is definitely in the group with her.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 01:19 AM

I'm guessing that was the guy who had 2 or 3 lines in the attempt to capture Quill? Hardly someone we were really introduced to.



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 01:51 AM

Also, if you had watched more than just the first ten minutes of the movie, you would have learned that those other guys in her group are people we're not supposed to care about since they turn out to be bad guys, with Carol's actual allies coming into the story after she arrives on Earth, and which we do care about since A) two of them ARE familiar faces and B) two others are new characters whom we are formally introduced to, whom we get to know very well, and who turn out to be the among the best and most likable characters of the movie (I'll never say that Carol herself was well written as she bored me, but her allies made the movie enjoyable).

 

As for why the first ten minutes initially stuck with the unimportant characters that we aren't supposed to be interested in, as Axaday described, that was all part of the film's intentional use of misdirection. And another of the bad guys who comes in later in the movie is also another very familiar face (and it's not Thanos).


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 05:49 AM

Given the way this movie started, though, I honestly can't imagine what anyone saw in it to make them want to watch any further than I did. Heck, I gave it 5 extra minutes just because it was a Marvel movie and I didn't think it could be nearly as bad as the nerdrage wanted us to believe.

 

You have an opportunity for real introspection then.  You can't imagine why anyone watched it further than you did, but 100 million people did.



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 06:35 AM

That's an interesting take.
On the other hand, if that's what's going on, there's a better version of that movie: Donnie Darko. I still see new things in that movie when I watch it. And it managed to not annoy the crap out of me when I first watched it, even though I didn't know what was going on.


I haven’t seen Donnie Darko. I have heard it is good. A lot of other movies people liked I haven’t seen. But they’re going to keep making movies and a lot of them aren’t going to be as good as Donnie Darko.

My wife saw Captain Marvel all the way through and didn’t like it. Even after talking with me about it, she doesn’t want to watch it again. And you might have never liked it either and that’s fine. You can quit 15 minutes in and you can not like the movie. You can even both. You just can’t expect people to be interested in your review of a movie you haven’t seen.



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