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@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 July 2020 - 02:39 PM)

The real clones were the friends we made along the way.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 01:47 PM)

So the Emperor in episodes 1 through 6 was a clone?

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.


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#501 Axaday

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 07:41 PM

I would ask that you answer 2 questions, however.


Sure thing!
 

If you don't like the first 10 minutes of something, why do you keep watching?


Ok, well most of the time I do keep watching and that's because when I actually sit down to watch a movie it is because I wanted to see it and I don't trust my snap decision after 10 minutes. Often movies with bad starts get better, but even when they don't, *I* generally want to form an opinion based on the whole movie.

And, if the first 10 minutes of something have been so awful that you are thinking "I'd rather watch a blank screen than this," and yet for some reason you do keep watching, how many times has it actually turned around and become something you enjoyed--really enjoyed to the point that you forgive the utterly horrid first 10 minutes? (As follow ups, would this hypothetical show be better off without those first 10 minutes? If so, why are they even there? If not, and they are crucial to the overall show, was there a way to make them less horrid?)


There have been times that I haven't finished a movie and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't want you to feel like that was my problem with what you said. But I actually have a remarkable example for your question. Captain Marvel. I felt the movie was very strange as I was watching it, especially the first bit of it. Even as I left the theater I was confused and I don't like being confused.  My wife still doesn't ever want to see the movie again and that's okay.  I haven't taken the time to watch it again, but I want to.  Because as I lay in bed that night thinking about the movie, I believe that I understood what the director was doing.  I am disappointed to see that I didn't post it here where I can point you to it, but I wasn't on the Allspark that much for a few years until recently.  But I posted on Facebook and will put it below:

 

"Spoiler free analysis: Captain Marvel might have gotten me back in the theater a second time in the old days without 2 toddlers. I’ve liked it more as I have reflected and look forward to watching it again at home. If you’re thinking of going, I say this: Many times during the movie I felt confused and uncertain about where the story was going and I usually feel like that means the director should have done a better job, but hold on. The director is putting you in Captain Marvel’s shoes. She is confused and uncertain where her mission is going so you will actually be sharing her experience and figuring out who to trust and who are good guys and bad guys right with her. You aren’t watching her go dot to dot through a traditional superhero origin where everything that has to happen is everything you know has to happen. I believe that was intentional and pretty neat. And if you have a little girl that is old enough, go show her that one of the most powerful heroes in the MCU is a girl."

 

Since you have already written a review of the movie, I won't avoid spoilers with you.  Everyone is lying to the main character.  The structure of the movie uses familiar tropes to make you as the audience trust lies just like Carol.  Even casting choices and things they said about them in the lead up to the movie were lies.  They said Jude Law was playing Mar-vell.  He wasn't Mar-vell.  He's actually a villain from the comics.  Right off the bat they show you that Carol has a superpower and they refer to it as a gift they gave her and your average movie goer accepts it.  It's a lie.  They have kidnapped her and are trying to control her.  She's totally brainwashed.  Later they introduce who seems to be the bad guy and they cast Ben Mendelssohn who has lately played high profile bad guys and he's a Skrull which we know are bad guys.  But it is a lie.  As the movie goes you AND Carol get more and more hints that you've been deceived and everything gets turned on its head.  She changes sides when she realizes that the bad guys are the good guys and the good guys are the bad guys.  The freaking Skrulls are the good guys.  The Kree are the bad guys.  Mar-vell is reimagined as a woman that Carol knew.  Her origin was a few years ago.  She just didn't get to finish it then because she was taken by the Kree and brainwashed.  To me, it is all pretty cool.  No one but "This Is Us" has ever so successfully misdirected me.  But the experience that a first time, non-spoiled viewer of this movie gets is VERY interesting.  Even if you watch it now, you won't get that because you were never actually going to even watch the movie without being spoiled and maybe you still won't.  But you are confused and off-balance watching the start of the movie because you are supposed to.  Because Carol is.


Edited by Axaday, 20 November 2019 - 07:42 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 11:07 PM

That's an interesting take.

On the other hand, if that's what's going on, there's a better version of that movie: Donnie Darko. I still see new things in that movie when I watch it. And it managed to not annoy the crap out of me when I first watched it, even though I didn't know what was going on.

 

Compare that to "Your teacher says your not ready, but we're still going to send you on this highly classified important mission. You're going with people you know, but that the audience hasn't been introduced to."

 

Now, starting en media res can work. I've seen it done.

 

Given the way this movie started, though, I honestly can't imagine what anyone saw in it to make them want to watch any further than I did. Heck, I gave it 5 extra minutes just because it was a Marvel movie and I didn't think it could be nearly as bad as the nerdrage wanted us to believe.



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 12:08 AM

You're going with people you know, but that the audience hasn't been introduced to."

 

Korath from Guardians of the Galaxy is definitely in the group with her.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 01:19 AM

I'm guessing that was the guy who had 2 or 3 lines in the attempt to capture Quill? Hardly someone we were really introduced to.



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 01:51 AM

Also, if you had watched more than just the first ten minutes of the movie, you would have learned that those other guys in her group are people we're not supposed to care about since they turn out to be bad guys, with Carol's actual allies coming into the story after she arrives on Earth, and which we do care about since A) two of them ARE familiar faces and B) two others are new characters whom we are formally introduced to, whom we get to know very well, and who turn out to be the among the best and most likable characters of the movie (I'll never say that Carol herself was well written as she bored me, but her allies made the movie enjoyable).

 

As for why the first ten minutes initially stuck with the unimportant characters that we aren't supposed to be interested in, as Axaday described, that was all part of the film's intentional use of misdirection. And another of the bad guys who comes in later in the movie is also another very familiar face (and it's not Thanos).


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 05:49 AM

Given the way this movie started, though, I honestly can't imagine what anyone saw in it to make them want to watch any further than I did. Heck, I gave it 5 extra minutes just because it was a Marvel movie and I didn't think it could be nearly as bad as the nerdrage wanted us to believe.

 

You have an opportunity for real introspection then.  You can't imagine why anyone watched it further than you did, but 100 million people did.



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 06:35 AM

That's an interesting take.
On the other hand, if that's what's going on, there's a better version of that movie: Donnie Darko. I still see new things in that movie when I watch it. And it managed to not annoy the crap out of me when I first watched it, even though I didn't know what was going on.


I haven’t seen Donnie Darko. I have heard it is good. A lot of other movies people liked I haven’t seen. But they’re going to keep making movies and a lot of them aren’t going to be as good as Donnie Darko.

My wife saw Captain Marvel all the way through and didn’t like it. Even after talking with me about it, she doesn’t want to watch it again. And you might have never liked it either and that’s fine. You can quit 15 minutes in and you can not like the movie. You can even both. You just can’t expect people to be interested in your review of a movie you haven’t seen.

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Posted 14 June 2020 - 08:39 AM


"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"
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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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