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@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Generations Nightbeat never really scratched that itch sadly; he looked okay, but his transformation was fiddly, his robot mode had far too many bits and pieces flopping around unsecured, and his chest dragged along the surface in var mode. =/

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:57 AM)

I second wishing that we got a Deluxe Nightbeat from TR, mostly because as a kid he was second-in-command to my old Powermaster Optimus for the longest time. =P

@  tigerhawk : (08 May 2021 - 05:41 AM)

Wipe Out and Wilder it coulda been: Wipe Out is down in the dumps because the Scramble City Trypticon was destroyed and left him a drifting to the point he arrives in Legends World, he finds Wilder and both go on a crime spree subverted by their realisation neither gets any joy from it until they stop a violent crook together and become anti heroes. (Bass XO beat me!)

@  Bass X0 : (08 May 2021 - 05:39 AM)

Yes, Nightbeat and Siren would have been easy remolds of Chromedome - just give them new chests and each other's Titan Master heads. Fangry and Squeezeplay would be remolded from Twinferno with their own Titan Master heads. And Horri-Bull would have been remolded from Wolfwire.

@  Rycochet : (07 May 2021 - 05:10 PM)

Surprised we didn't get a full size retool from the monsterbot mold. I'd rather have a CW Ironhide retool though, we need a van Wilder.

@  tigerhawk : (07 May 2021 - 04:19 PM)

I just noticed Wilder was the only omission from Takara Legends.

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 06:01 AM)

Even more weirdly, it was the early shift where some people had their regular day off for the week, while the late shift was supposed to have full attendance (not counting sick days, vacations and overtime reduction).

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 01:15 AM)

The weirdest part was that there was a steady influx of voters during the early shift, while hardly anyone showed up during the late shift.

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 01:14 AM)

Wow, that was a long day. But it's over, and I finally got some sleep. Not particularly happy with the outcome, but then again, my candidates both admit they didn't really campaign that much.

@  Echowarrior : (06 May 2021 - 08:56 PM)

Best of luck, Nevermore.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 May 2021 - 10:18 AM)

Best of luck man.

@  electricidad : (05 May 2021 - 03:22 PM)

GOOD LUCK, NEVERMORE!

@  Nevermore : (05 May 2021 - 03:14 PM)

The election committee whose chairman I am has been preparing this election since February. There's no real gain for me either way, so I don't care that much for the outcome, but it's going to be a stressful day for me either way.

@  Nevermore : (05 May 2021 - 03:13 PM)

Wish me luck. Tomorrow is this year's supervisory board election at my workplace, and I'm the guy in charge of organizing the election.

@  tigerhawk : (05 May 2021 - 01:30 PM)

I have two Overlords one was faulty with a melted foot and they never took it back but replaced it, I just checked the guns, both the handles seem to be turning white.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 May 2021 - 07:38 PM)

REVELATION! Towering war machines more durable than nerd!

@  Telly : (04 May 2021 - 07:18 PM)

pansy. my trypticon AND scorponok took a header from 4 feet up and only had parts pop off that were easily reattached. guess 'cons are tougher...

@  tigerhawk : (04 May 2021 - 04:03 PM)

My TR Perceptor fell and the titan master peg in the leg snapped off. Fortunately I have the Legends one.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 May 2021 - 08:50 PM)

It's a fairly well known fact that "it's a wonderful life" only became popular after it dropped into the public domain. So, yeah, they probably did.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (02 May 2021 - 08:29 PM)

I read an interesting observation on Twitter. If it is the natural course of a human to grow into Grandpa Abe yelling at a cloud, but nostalgia also yields rose-tinted glasses for the likes of one's youth, then did Greatest Generation adults bemoan how Baby Boomer children loved box office flops such as The Wizard of Oz and It's a Wonderful Life?

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 May 2021 - 09:54 AM)

You’re traveling down a rabbit hole I dare not follow

@  Otaku : (02 May 2021 - 09:26 AM)

At the same time, with my almost non-existent knowledge of Japanese and how oddly some things translate, seeing "Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges" made me wonder if that would make it "JoJoJo"... which now has my brain terrified of a weird Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo/Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Crossover. @[email protected]

@  Otaku : (02 May 2021 - 09:24 AM)

It is always weird when things align.  This talk of Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges in the SquawkBox reminded me of King Gorgeous Gorge on the FoxBox.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 May 2021 - 08:52 PM)

Nice

@  Nevermore : (01 May 2021 - 09:03 AM)

I got one even better: After that character by the name of Gorgeous Giorgios dies in a gorge, they name that whole area after him: The Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges.

@  tigerhawk : (30 April 2021 - 01:56 AM)

Paint apps did slide notably during TR, wave one's Titan Masters had detail but wave 2 onwards was absent of them. Wave 5's Ramhorn, Dreadnaut, Scorchfire and Aimless had detail but Murk and Hazard didn't, can't speak for Flameout as I got Legends Twintwist and Slugslinger.

@  kizudarake : (29 April 2021 - 04:50 PM)

Anyone here got any g1 jet fire parts for sale?

@  wonko the sane? : (29 April 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Other than a few overly tight joints, the paints apps are my single complaint about the generations line.

@  tigerhawk : (29 April 2021 - 02:25 PM)

I just saw Legends Leo Prime now I wish Titans Return Alpha Trion had a few more paint apps for ship mode.

@  walruslaw : (28 April 2021 - 09:33 PM)

dagrimbo

@  CORVUS : (27 April 2021 - 08:11 PM)

Indeed.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 April 2021 - 04:59 PM)

CORVUS: considering that reply, I'm pretty sure this was just another instance of Bass posting poorly-defined drivel as if it were profound.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2021 - 04:24 PM)

Given the last year and a half or so, is it any surprise?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2021 - 04:12 PM)

People are snapping already it seems.

@  Kaon : (27 April 2021 - 12:15 PM)

I like the Shattered Glass Megatron's alt mode

@  CORVUS : (26 April 2021 - 07:30 PM)

I'd like to know what society he's talking about, and what qualifies as "nothing", TBH.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 April 2021 - 05:09 PM)

I don't see the point in such a poorly defined "everyone is terrible" statement. He's not complaining about any specific people or specific problems.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 April 2021 - 05:06 PM)

I do not see anything about Bass's comment that felt a need for you to attack him.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 April 2021 - 04:35 PM)

Bass: does that "everyone" include yourself or are you just trying to act like you're better than everybody without actually proving anything?

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2021 - 04:10 PM)

Mostly it's "oh, don't say that right now" and "better learn when to duck".

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2021 - 04:05 PM)

There's something to be said about society when everyones just an inch away from snapping over nothing.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 April 2021 - 02:17 PM)

WalMart is a cruel mistress. Today she runneth over...tommorrow, she'll be barren as a desert.

@  -LittleAutob... : (26 April 2021 - 12:21 PM)

I love Wal-mart now- They have way more Transformers figures than Target- last night I came home with a WFC Authentic Wheeljack even though I was torn between wanting TFP Arcee and TF: The Movie Blurr, two figures I have never ever seen before-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 April 2021 - 10:29 AM)

Spelling intended lol

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 April 2021 - 10:29 AM)

Curious Geogore

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 April 2021 - 07:54 AM)

"My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me Giorgio"

@  MEDdMI : (25 April 2021 - 07:52 AM)

New JoJo villain, GoGio

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2021 - 07:52 AM)

Is this a Jojo?

@  Nevermore : (25 April 2021 - 06:49 AM)

Now I suddenly have a character with the name "Gorgeous Georgios" in mind.


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Appropriate and Inappropriate Police Action Thread


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#1 Bainreese

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 01:06 PM

We have a lot of different threads on police action.  I thought it might be a good idea to consolidate it all instead of having a new thread to talk about each new video that surfaces.  So here is something to start this off.

 

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https://www.facebook...90526257707093/

 

So there are a couple of things with this video.

 

#1.  The police action during her arrest was understandable.  Why?  When being pulled over you never get out of the car.  It is considered an aggressive and threatening action for the officer.  He keeps his calm and simply asks her to get back in the car and close the car door.  She was pulled over for speeding.  This is a request for HIS safety.  A person in the car is less likely to run and/or put the officers life in danger.  She refuses.  He then attempt to put her in cuffs and she refuses.  You can see her fighting against him.  If an officer wants to put you in cuffs to avoid flight and/or possible hostility(It doesn't matter whether you are white black female male skinny fat, you can threaten that officers life....then you comply.  This was a simple speeding ticket until she started refusing to do as the officer asked.  Every action he took was completely within the code of conduct of an officer.

#2.  His comments in the car were completely inappropriate, wrong, and racist.  They unfortunately color the entire exchange and the entire video because of it.  And because of his remarks I think he should be fired.  Because you don't put someone who has that kind of viewpoint in a position of responsibility to protect people when half the people he's meant to protect he feels are going to be more violent toward him.


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#2 StarSaber

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 06:56 PM

His comments were inappropriate but shouldn't cost him his career. From his experience, he may have believed his statement to be statistically true.

No one was injured. I think sensitivity training would probably suffice.

The next time? Suspension and even more sensitivity classes.

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 07:02 PM

Here's an interesting cop-stop.

https://m.facebook.c...if&notif_t=like

-SS (someone's living in 1781..)

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 07:07 PM

His comments were inappropriate but shouldn't cost him his career.

 

His comments indicate a racist streak, or willingness to espouse/believe racist ideals. He can have any other career her wants, but shouldn't have one where he has to interact with various minorities as a person of authority, and especially not an armed person of authority. 

 

Fire him out of a cannon.

 

From his experience, he may have believed his statement to be statistically true.

 

I'm sure most racists believe what they say, yes.



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:17 PM

So no second chances for a cop who made rather questionable remarks but didn't shoot anyone?

You don't think sensitivity training would make a difference? Show him that his fears are unfounded and give him a chance for change? He's completely incorrigible and should be tossed without hesitation?

See, I can't agree with that. It's one thing to fire a cop for using excessive force and even THEN they usually get a mark on their record and a second chance. He didn't even use a racial slur. He made a comment based on either personal experience or facts he believed to be true. The comment could certainly be seen as racist but that doesn't mean the person making it is. If it becomes a recurring pattern of behavior, sure. Then you might be able to make that assumption.

I just don't think this is deserving of "one strike, you're out". I'll give him credit for answering an honest question with an honest answer.

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:27 PM

A pattern of behavior in a situation like this is potentially going to get an innocent person killed.

 

I said this to a Trump supporter earlier who claimed I shouldn't be afraid of the RNC's anti-homosexual platform since they won't /really/ get enacted, and I'll say it now.

 

It's much easier to call the gun fake when you're not the one being aimed at. I'm not willing to take that risk with the lives of my fellow citizens.



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:02 PM

I agree.

One time does not a pattern make however.

You're saying you don't want to take the risk before it's reached that stage. You're just pre-judging someone based on a single instance and assuming a pattern will emerge given enough time so it's best for everyone to just fire them over something they may or may not do in the future...without giving them the opportunity to learn from their mistake and correct their behavior.

-SS (Zero tolerance=zero reform)

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:08 PM

There should be zero tolerance, no warnings, immediate firing for racist cops. The fact that, as things stand, excessive force doesn't lead to immediate firing is disgusting. Excessive force should lead to immediate firing and immediate incarceration: no second chances. Also, police officers fired from one department should be barred from joining another law enforcement agency. Remember, Tamir Rice's murderer was hired by the Cleveland PD after he was fired from the suburban Independence, OH force. It's like the Catholic Church shuffling around pederast priests.
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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:12 PM

And next time it'll be "He's a good guy, it's just a mistake" again and again and again until eventually he kills someone. That's the real pattern. People making continued excuses for bigotry and violence.

 

This is a man with a gun and the authority to stop anyone he chooses, backed up by police unions and brotherhoods who are willing to cover for, as history has shown, damn near any action he commits. You're damn right I want zero tolerance for racists in that situation. 



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:12 PM

If we were talking about being demoted to a desk job that might be slightly different. Since we're talking about a job where you get to carry a gun and fire it without approval it kind of has to be one strike and you're racist.

 

I get the sentiment, I want to be for some can't we all get along dream where a racist cop goes through a year long reeducation and then goes back to their job not to kill anyone. But as is we know 9 times out of 10 that "sensitivity training" would be watching a 30 minute Youtube video and signing a promise not to do it again. And then nothing changes. And since we're being told to go fuck ourselves asking for accountability on the whole murdering people epidemic I'm in no hurry to hand cops more leeway or more rope. At some point you have to stop giving rope if you realize the other person isn't getting enough to hang themselves but is hanging everyone who looks at them funny.



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:14 PM

Really? No comments on the "good" cop link I posted above with the cray-cray passenger citing the Articles of Confederation and claiming that she's a "Free Inhabitant" - not a U.S. citizen - so our laws don't apply to her?

That cop deserves a medal for exhibiting inhuman patience and calmness with that "person".

-SS (it was from March but I never saw it referenced before today.)

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:15 PM

I'm not in the habit of handing out medals for doing your job and not shooting people. I don't get a raise everytime I remember to clock in on time, you don't get a round of applause each time you realize "No. I shouldn't unload a clip into this person." 


Edited by Ms Virion, 22 July 2016 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, sorry, not being a jerk doesn't get a reward.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:17 PM

Hmm, I'm sorry, is my Allspark experience dropping posts? I'm missing all these instances where anyone said that cops never encounter unreasonable idiots in their line of duty. That happens all the time. The problem is that cops seem to only unjustly murder the black drivers. All those idiot white ones, no matter how drunk they are or how much they swear they're sober and going to sue you and so on, get the courtesy of going to jail alive.



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:37 PM

"And next time it'll be "He's a good guy, it's just a mistake" again and again and again until eventually he kills someone."

You don't know that there will be a next time. You're making an assumption based on a single instance and an even bigger one that "eventually" he'll kill someone when AFAIK there's absolutely zero evidence of that. You just don't want to give anyone the benefit of the doubt because they "might" kill some innocent person someday based on an unsupportive comment. You might as well fire cops who draw their weapons but never fire them based on that logic.

"But as is we know 9 times out of 10 that "sensitivity training" would be watching a 30 minute Youtube video and signing a promise not to do it again"

Is that all it consists of??
I thought it was much more intensive than that. "Law & Order" and "Blue Bloods" both portrayed it as something lasting weeks or even months and quite effective in most cases.

I know it's television but both shows use professional consultants to keep procedures as accurate as possible.

-SS (maybe NYPD is just a better outfit than most.)

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:39 PM

-SS (maybe NYPD is just a better outfit than most.)

 

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:47 PM

The fact that Killer Mike says he can walk the streets of Atlanta and not fear dying doesn't mean the same can be said about Macon.



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:56 PM

I'm not in the habit of handing out medals for doing your job and not shooting people. I don't get a raise everytime I remember to clock in on time, you don't get a round of applause each time you realize "No. I shouldn't unload a clip into this person." 


I wasn't praising that. Naturally, he shouldn't shoot in this situation. I was complimenting his incredible calmness and patience with a rather unruly and uncooperative suspect who seemed to be going out of her way to harass the officer while filming him.

Of course, I don't expect a cop in that situation to get violent or eescalate things but I wouldn't have objected if he raised his voice or arrested her for noncompliance the first time.

Instead, he rationally and calmly explained to her what was happening, why she and the driver were being detained, what she could and could not do, why her assertions were wrong, and gave her multiple warnings (which she ignored) before finally arresting her.

He even told her she could continue to record him but not to point anything at him. All fair and reasonable requests and behaviors on his part even though she could've been high as far as he knew. She certainly acted as if she might be.

I think he did more than "just his job". He was incredibly cool throughout the entire encounter and didn't lose his temper. In situations like this, that's a rare thing indeed.

We need more cops like him.

-SS (most cops would've cuffed her after the first instance of obstruction and called it a day.)

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:59 PM

Sorry, but what he did is what I expect a police officer to to do. That it's rare is a testament to how badly our police forces need fixed.

 

Plus, lets be honest, he was probably too busy trying not to bust a gut laughing. Sovereign Citizens are hilariously clueless.


Edited by Ms Virion, 22 July 2016 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 10:02 PM

Hmm, I'm sorry, is my Allspark experience dropping posts? I'm missing all these instances where anyone said that cops never encounter unreasonable idiots in their line of duty. That happens all the time.

I'm sorry. I was under the impression that this thread was for "appropriate police action videos" as well and not just for stories about murdering cops.

I thought the video was humorous and assumed others might as well.

-SS (I guess I misread the thread title. My bad.)

Edited by StarSaber, 22 July 2016 - 10:04 PM.



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