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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#3261 Walky

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:25 AM

As far as human anatomy goes, that's surely more normal than on Hasbro's. I mean, someone's hand in a gripping posture should be thicker and wider than their forearm rather than exactly the same.

Unless they're like, really buff.

 

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:48 AM

I just don't understand what "normal humans don't look like that" means here when regular TF proportions are more even moreso.

It's not "regular humans don't look like that" it's more "only things i can think of that look like that are messed up in one way or another"

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 01:00 AM

Normal humans are messed up, got it. 

 

Yeah, it's only normal in TF that fists are shaped such that they could fit inside their corresponding forearms, based on the necessity that they often need to do so.

It's also common in Mega Man. I feel like it's sort of a not-100%-humanoid robot franchise thing in general, though I'm having some trouble thinking of more examples. I've always assumed the reason it doesn't seem weird is that the big forearms read as "sleeves."

 

Yeah, it's hardly unique to TF, it's just the set of things TF has adopted. Most of those things are more common than not in giant robots generally. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 01:17 AM

If it helps, the Kup's fist on his waist is bent toward the camera at the transformation joint to effect a 'hands on hip pose', which results in the forearm looking shorter and smaller than it actually is.

 

He's still got proportionally big fists for a transformer, but I think that's worth noting.

 

Also, to be fair, Takara Kup's face isn't great, but I like everything else far more than the Hasbro version, and I don't like Hasbro's head either.

 

EDIT: And they both need a little bit of backpack sticking over their backs. It just looks weird without it tbh.


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 03:22 AM

I don't understand this "Hasbro Kup is too boxy" thing? It's a sculpt of IDW Kup, and the only part of him that's boxier than it ought to be are his biceps, which have to be that way for alt-mode. Boxy forearms and shoulders are on-model for him.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 03:59 AM

Next comic thing is up: http://tf.takaratomy..._lg/tf_lg_comic

 

There's a Peacemaker and whatnot.



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Posted 29 September 2017 - 04:44 AM

Next comic thing is up: http://tf.takaratomy..._lg/tf_lg_comic
 
There's a Peacemaker and whatnot.


Nice! Hope someone translates this one too. ;)

As far as Kups go. TakaraTomy's looks like Kup to me. There are enough things off on the Hasbro one that make him not read as Kup to me. It is mostly the fault of the deco, as Cheets did a custom with some changes, and once those changes were made, it totally read as a toy version of Kup.

The LG head is certainly more in line with what I think of when I think Kup, paint or no paint.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:43 AM

Why do you hate Kup?



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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:47 AM

Next comic thing is up: http://tf.takaratomy..._lg/tf_lg_comic

 

There's a Peacemaker and whatnot.

 

Hey, adult Shaoshao!



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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:55 AM

 

Next comic thing is up: http://tf.takaratomy..._lg/tf_lg_comic

 

There's a Peacemaker and whatnot.

 

Hey, adult Shaoshao!

 

This is honestly the most exciting thing to me.

 

The return of Shaoshao LI.


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:01 AM

Nice to see her making a full appearance when she doesn't have a figure in this toyline.


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:09 AM

It would have been really cool to get SD bodies like that in the Titanmaster Class assortments. Or even as a one-off marketing gimmick figure offered at a Convention.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:31 AM

Bunch of new pics:
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Hot Rod's Chest flames look amazing!

 

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:42 AM

Kup is amazing.

 

Hot Rod is a wash between having much better colours but a worse chest. That said, neither of them are great, and both look kinda terrible next to POTP Hot Rod.



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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:45 AM

I'm gonna have to side with Takara on Kup. From my perspective Targetmaster Chear looks way better.



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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:00 AM

I just can't get past Takara Kup's face. It's like the sculptor only knew about Kup from reading his TFWiki image captions, and thinks he really is a senile and perpetually confused Grandpa-Simpson-type.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:16 AM

I must be the only person on the planet who prefers Legends Hot Rod's chest.


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:19 AM

And I seem to be the only one who likes Takara Kup's face.

Though his loving homage to giant bulbous late-G1 hands is ridiculous.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:32 AM

I must be the only person on the planet who prefers Legends Hot Rod's chest.

 

 

And I seem to be the only one who likes Takara Kup's face.

Though his loving homage to giant bulbous late-G1 hands is ridiculous.

 

I like both better personally.

 

Hot Rod's is certainly more Hot Rod-esque, and that flame is gorgeous.

 

TR Kup's head doesn't look like Kup to me.  The colors and sculpt are just not reading as him (a change to one or the other would help).


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:34 AM

The way the mouth is shaped is what throws it off for me. 

Yeah, it's pretty much that mouth that makes the rest of Takara Kup's facial features look worse than they should. Cover up that mouth and the face doesn't look nearly as bad.

 

But that mouth, as is, makes Kup looks like he's struggling trying to whistle, but is physically incapable of forming his lips into the correct little circular hole shape that one needs to form with their lips in order to whistle.

 

That all aside, I do think that the helmet above the face on Takara Kup does look nicer.


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