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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:34 AM)

I'd also like to take the opportunity to say I despise Ebay for showing the list prices in US money.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:23 AM)

Well there is an overpriced limited edition, but I don't want to pay that much money for it.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:21 AM)

Well great. The one Usagi Yojimbo volume I don't have and it's out of stock.

@  Rycochet : (17 January 2020 - 06:15 PM)

I both love and hate that the Alien franchise seems to have had more luck finding a niche as a line of children's toys than it has at producing worthwhile films.

@  Donocropolis : (17 January 2020 - 06:35 AM)

I've seen them on the shelves at Walmart. They're pretty great looking retro Aliens toys. https://www.walmart....-Vary/934039489

@  fourteenwings : (17 January 2020 - 01:11 AM)

IIRC somebody on here mentioned an unbranded Alien toy a couple of weeks ago? It seems like it was actually part of a collection for the Alien movie series by Lanard. Mattel's making some stuff too.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 January 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Is it really a worse name than say, HMS Spanker?

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 January 2020 - 02:36 PM)

'Boaty McBoatface' was a actual thing?! Wow.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 January 2020 - 02:00 PM)

Might be worth bringing back this thread.

@  ThunderWear : (14 January 2020 - 01:53 PM)

Of course I had the idea to download all the pdfs like a week too late. Anyone got an archive?

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 January 2020 - 12:48 PM)

The Collector Club is dead. Seems like it all came down shortly after New Year

@  ThunderWear : (13 January 2020 - 11:06 PM)

I can't get to the collector club website. anyone else? I was literally going to download all the fiction to finish reading.

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 January 2020 - 04:50 AM)

News today is all 'there's a CHANCE it would snow in July' and 'dogs COULD bite back'.

@  Benbot : (12 January 2020 - 10:05 PM)

Holy crap, do many people get hurt by them?

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2020 - 02:11 PM)

Even in fallout, they never carpet bombed with nukes.


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#3241 Creedence

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 09:40 PM

I don't really see the problem with Chear, especially the face. But that may be because I think Kup looks like he smelled a fart.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 09:46 PM

Takara Kup looks great so far!


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:06 PM

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:07 PM

Well I did cancel my pre order on Rod earlier tonight. Keeping Kup though. Just wish I could get the TM for my Hasbro Rod


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:37 PM

I realise this is a debate we've devoted more than enough time to in the past, but my gosh. It astounds me that anyone could look at those two Kups and think Takara's is in any way better. He's just so weird and ugly. I mean really. 

 

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I can understand preferring the rounded shoulders I guess, although Takara's execution does indeed seem to be sub-optimal there once you get further down the arm. And if you'd rather have a different deco or tweak the colours, fine. But nothing is saving that odd, creepy Takara face. Shudder. 

 

And yet I post this on Facebook and every comment is "OMG Takara's is SO MUCH BETTER".

 

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:39 PM

Well, the comparison is to the TR head, so it's unsurprising that people react that way.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:07 PM

The only place i've seen takara Kup's hand to forearm proportions were on patients with severe cellulitis.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:13 PM

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I can understand preferring the rounded shoulders I guess, although Takara's execution does indeed seem to be sub-optimal there once you get further down the arm. And if you'd rather have a different deco or tweak the colours, fine. But nothing is saving that odd, creepy Takara face. Shudder. 
 
And yet I post this on Facebook and every comment is "OMG Takara's is SO MUCH BETTER".
 
So clearly the problem is me. I apologise for my unsatisfactory opinions.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:27 PM

The way the mouth is shaped is what throws it off for me. Also there's something about the positioning of the eyes and forehead that only looks decent viewed head-on (heh) but iffy from any other angle.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:32 PM

The only place i've seen takara Kup's hand to forearm proportions were on patients with severe cellulitis.


Do you mean length or thickness? Because the former should be about the same to Hasbro's version.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:39 PM

Thickness

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:42 PM

As far as human anatomy goes, that's surely more normal than on Hasbro's. I mean, someone's hand in a gripping posture should be thicker and wider than their forearm rather than exactly the same.

Unless they're like, really buff.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:48 PM

Yeah, it's only normal in TF that fists are shaped such that they could fit inside their corresponding forearms, based on the necessity that they often need to do so.

 

I don't think the argument is altogether that odd. Hasbro's Kup is an ugly and unfinished looking clump of boxes, with a well-executed but not particularly appealing face sculpt. TakTom's version adds some visually interesting curvy bits and puts it all in an entirely edible deco with their typically lavish paint budget, and has a well-intentioned and poorly executed face sculpt. It's really just a matter of what you're willing to forgive in a figure.

 

Personally, I don't see anything worth saving in the Hasbro version, let alone anything to actually recommend it. But a lot of his "problems" are just a fact of the line more broadly, and if if doesn't bother you more generally, eh.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 28 September 2017 - 11:49 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:56 PM

As far as human anatomy goes, that's surely more normal than on Hasbro's. I mean, someone's hand in a gripping posture should be thicker and wider than their forearm rather than exactly the same.

Unless they're like, really buff.

Not that much thicker.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:59 PM

It's still closer to human anatomy than on Hasbro Kup or even the "typical" TF arm, since you brought up the comparison.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:00 AM

Yeah but like

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:04 AM

TF definitely has its own proportional canon, which differs from naturalistic human proportions, among other things, in having tiny heads and hands, very large feet, and generally limbs that are longer and thicker in the distal half than makes mechanical sense, let alone any biological analog. But there's a lot of variation, even if G1-styled Gens designs generally do follow those rules pretty closely in comparison to other TF lines. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 29 September 2017 - 12:04 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:10 AM

I just don't understand what "normal humans don't look like that" means here when regular TF proportions are more even moreso.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:11 AM

I just don't understand what "normal humans don't look like that" means here when regular TF proportions are even further off.

Yeah, that part is nonsense. Kup does have slightly unusual proportions for a G1 Gens Transformer, though.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 29 September 2017 - 12:11 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:17 AM

Yeah, it's only normal in TF that fists are shaped such that they could fit inside their corresponding forearms, based on the necessity that they often need to do so.

It's also common in Mega Man. I feel like it's sort of a not-100%-humanoid robot franchise thing in general, though I'm having some trouble thinking of more examples. I've always assumed the reason it doesn't seem weird is that the big forearms read as "sleeves."

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