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@  Benbot : (26 June 2019 - 03:27 PM)

new episodes are up?

@  Boomhauer : (26 June 2019 - 01:30 PM)

The voice acting bothers me less than the weird-as-hell timing on the action. Entire show feels like its paced like a internet cartoon.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.


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#3221 NightViper

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 07:04 AM

Nah, they'll remold Orion as Starscream.

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

 

One difference is the use of black screws on the Legends version.  Lukeblast informed me the Titans Return version uses unpainted screws.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 08:55 AM

Ah, that's standard across Legends and Gens, isn't it? So there is at least a way to tell them apart loose. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:03 AM

 

Optimus gets pewed by a time beam, blasting an Orion Pax out of him. They build the Optimus suit out of what's left of the bigger body so Orion can wear it and pretend he's still the chief.

 

 

- Optimus Prime gets wished young again, like Goku in Dragon Ball GT.

 

 

Actually since we already had a Dragonball reference in the Trypticon comic, I wouldn't be too surprised if something like this happened. (Orion played as a goofball youngster would be A+ content)


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:31 AM

I really wish Orion Pax's design committed as fully to the throwbacky nostalgia Happy Days '50s theme of the Golden Age the way Ariel's ponytail and vest-blouse deal do. All he'd really need is a torso redesigned to look more like a letterman jacket.

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:12 PM

Ah, that's standard across Legends and Gens, isn't it? So there is at least a way to tell them apart loose. 

 

At a certain point it is.  I'm not sure when it happened precisely, as I would have to look to see which was the first figure to have black screws, but I know that Legends Jetfire doesn't have them (I know this as a result of comparing the Legends version to the Revolution version).

 

It's something that they've done in the past for certain releases, like I seem to recall Skywarp having black screws previously because he was 70% black when whatever Hasbro counterpart did not. 

 

I also think Masterpiece has been doing it longer than Legends has.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10460179

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http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10460175

 

These guys are finally coming out.  I think it was like 6 months ago they were announced.  :D

 

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Legends always has such pretty packaging and figure presentation.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 09:03 AM

I can't wait! Even though this Hot Rod is ultimately going to be superfluous, I can't have enough Hot Rods. And this one's got clear plastic too!



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:27 AM

I actually just canceled my preorders for both Hot Rod and Kup on HLJ (forgot I had them actually). I realized I just don't need 'em, so there may be one of each available if someone's lookin'.


 
 
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Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:32 PM

"Futuristic Shark"

 

Ah yes. In the far-flung future of 2005, sharks will mutate into weird, piranha-like things with spindly arms and thick T-rex legs. Maybe some will convert into chubby dudes that like sticks of gum from a couple of randos they captured, too.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:36 PM

At least they don't call that mega-'80s thing Kup turns into a "futuristic" pickup.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 01:44 PM

Comparisons:

 

 


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 01:46 PM

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 01:55 PM

Wow, the color scheme on Hot Rodimus is really nice.

 

Not nice enough for me to ditch Hot Rod and buy the Takara one, mind, but still.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:01 PM

The new tooling on Kup is impressively rubbish. You've got... whatever the deal with that face is, but then new forearms that are smaller than his fists too!

The colours are nice, at least.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:23 PM

I'm pretty sure that Takara's Kup is on drugs. #demeyes :D



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:35 PM

Is G2 Megatron really that? Just looks to me more like a pre-Beast Mode Beast Wars Megatron.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:45 PM

That's the only G2 Megatron that Japan had in the 90's. The purple "Hero" version. 

 

But, yeah, if you flip back through the thread, you;ll see a lot of commentary about how it's not really G2 enough for a lot of fans. (It needs more orange, darnit!)



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 04:06 PM

Yeah, without the orange you instantly lose about 80% of the figure's visual interest.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 05:15 PM

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LG Kup and Hot Rod are really pretty. They look less like toys and more like they popped off the screen.

Glad Sharkticon looks more cartoon like as a counterpart to Hasbro's toy version.

Yeah, without the orange you instantly lose about 80% of the figure's visual interest.


If that beautiful clear blue was orange, it'd be appropriate.

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