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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 08:08 AM

Nothing phenomenal, but new pics on the landing page.  The links don't take you to the new pics, but the ones they show cropped are really nice.
 
http://tf.takaratomy...ends/index.html
 
Scourge in particular looks great, and shows that it was a good idea to make his Head Master's limbs white as they don't read as a continuation of his head, so the actual front regular Scourge part of his head reads as Scourge more than the Hasbro one does with all the extra blue behind it.
 
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Posted 21 July 2016 - 09:06 AM

I forgot that page existed. :doh


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Posted 21 July 2016 - 10:48 AM

Galvatron and Shockwave look terrible, of course, and Scourge and Blurr have been discussed endlessly already (and Randy's point about the contrast behind Scourge's head is a good one), but the thing I keep being surprised by is how much I love Takara Hardhead's colors. There's something about that warm brown-grey, and although in usual Takara style there's less value contrast between the grey and green, it's not so reduced as to make the whole thing one unbroken value. He looks really nice (except for the loss of the toy head).



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 01:54 PM

I wonder why Blurr and Scourge don't come with Titan Master accessories like the other deluxes.



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 02:00 PM

It seems to be a Targetmaster thing, for whatever reason.

 

(Yes, that means the Targetmasters are the ones who don't come with transforming guns.)



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 02:05 PM

Baseless speculation, but perhaps given Takara's general attachment to slavishness, Headmaster toys of characters who weren't previously Headmasters might be a harder sell in their market? Lack of the accessories helps keeps the cost down relevant to the others. 



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 02:07 PM

It's the Headmasters' revenge on having to give up their heads in Rebirth while the Targetmasters only had to give up their guns.  So now the Headmasters have extra vehicles / animals that they can flaunt in front of those racist Targetmasters.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 10:17 AM

So $45 is way too much to pay for that little Megatron that comes with a miscolored Galvatron body accessory, right? That's what I keep trying to tell myself anyway...



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 01:59 PM

The way Galvatron's head is painted reminds me of Prime Megatron.

 

 


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 02:19 PM

That head has always reminded me of Prime Megs, although I guess it's just a Galvatron head with stubby horns. Honestly, painted with the contrast between the "crown" and the rest of the head, that makes a pretty okay Galvatron head by itself, if the mask is as awful as everyone says.

 

Didn't we think the whole "helmet" area was painted on the Japanese one? Were we wrong? Did everyone else know that and not me? Did it change?



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 02:20 PM

I didn't realize it was basically Galvatron's head just smooshed into Titanmaster-friendly dimensions. 

 

To be fair I'm not buying it and haven't looked that closely, so maybe that revelation is well-known already. 


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 02:38 PM

That head has always reminded me of Prime Megs, although I guess it's just a Galvatron head with stubby horns. Honestly, painted with the contrast between the "crown" and the rest of the head, that makes a pretty okay Galvatron head by itself, if the mask is as awful as everyone says.

 

Didn't we think the whole "helmet" area was painted on the Japanese one? Were we wrong? Did everyone else know that and not me? Did it change?

We could see there was some purple color, but it was never fully shown what the head looked like transformed without the crown atop it.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 05:57 PM

 

Galvatron and Shockwave look terrible, of course, 

 

I don't think so. A darker purple would have been nice but Takara's versions have much needed paint that Hasbro's doesn't have. I dislike the amount of clear plastic that Hasbro Shockwave has. I also prefer the warmer grey plastic of Takara Shockwave.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:26 PM

*Sigh* I really wanted to buy Takara's Galvatron, but I just don't think I can convince myself anymore.  I've gone back and forth on whether I could get used to it, but ultimately, that shade of purple just does not read as my Galvatron, so I'm opting out.  I do love what they've done with the non-purple areas though.  I suppose that my ideal version would be Takara's legs, feet, tank treads and head coupled with Hasbro's darker purple.  Oh well.  :(


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:58 PM

Frankly, the lighter and bluer and more desaturated the purple, the more my brain wants me to think it's Marvel Galvatron.  It's a first impression that absolutely doesn't withstand scrutiny, but that mental echo is there nonetheless.  



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:05 PM

Legends Galv is even lighter-colored than Reissue Galv. It really doesn't look like it's going to "work."

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 10:25 PM

My ideal Galvatron would be Hasbro's Galvatron with the gray treads from TT's Galvatron. Then TT's Megatron/Nucleon, although I'm undecided about which version to use as the head. I might lean towards TT's, but only if I could manage to remove that lavender without messing up any other paint.

 

Really, I would be very tempted to buy TT's Galvy just to take the treads and the head, and then throw the rest away. Unfortunately, the treads are attached with a pin joint, and I have not been successful at disassembling those joints without wrecking everything around it. Anyone else getting really annoyed with how prevalent those pins are becoming in newer figures?



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 11:40 PM

This is an easy enough pass, but I hope the eventual (likely?) Galvatron II isn't an exclusive of some sort.



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 12:51 PM

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 01:48 PM

The artwork is decent but why doesn't Takara treat Transformers fiction seriously? Whats with the cartoony Rattrap and Optimus Primal?


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