UPDATE: Article 50, the procedure by which a state can exit the European Union, will be formally triggered on Wednesday 29th March. After this is done, the UK and the EU will have 2 years to reach an agreement on the terms of the break-up before the clock runs out on these negotiations.
No, we don't have a plan. Yes, we think we can use some half-baked sovereign citizen style defence to avoid paying the EU what we owe. No, our leaders are not employing a feint, they really are out of their depth.
Read on below for more info on the campaign that started it all.
Alright guys, I know this is a pretty America-centric forum, but I'm sure you can allow us one wee discussion for the biggest event in British politics for a generation. The polls open at 7am BST on Thursday, when people across the UK will be faced with this ballot paper:
The two sides are called Leave and Remain
Common Leave arguments
- EU immigration is getting too much and puts pressure on public services
- The money we spend on the EU could be spent elsewhere
- The UK could negotiate its own trade deals with the rest of the world
- Too many laws are made in the EU, should be made by the UK
Common Remain arguments
- Leaving is a leap in the dark
- EU immigrants are a net benefit to the economy and pay in more than they take out
- The economy will suffer outside of the Single Market, investors will go elsewhere
- Multiple experts all say we will be better in
- The UK has voting power in the EU and a veto on any treaty changes or new members
Notable campaign moments:
After more than 24 hours of talks that went through the night, into breakfast, then lunch and finally dinner - at 11pm last night David Cameron emerged, a little bleary eyed, in front of the cameras to announce he had a deal that would allow him to campaign “heart and soul” for Britain to remain in the European Union.
Obama argued that he had a right to respond to the claims of Brexit campaigners that Britain would easily be able to negotiate a fresh trade deal with the US. “They are voicing an opinion about what the United States is going to do, I figured you might want to hear from the president of the United States what I think the United States is going to do.
“And on that matter, for example, I think it’s fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement, but it’s not going to happen any time soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done”.
He added: “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”
“China hopes to see a prosperous Europe and a united EU, and hopes Britain, as an important member of the EU, can play an even more positive and constructive role in promoting the deepening development of China-EU ties,” said the ministry.
Mr Xi joins other leaders, including President Barack Obama, who have said openly they would prefer the UK to remain in the EU. Many countries fear the loss of the free-trade influence it brings to the bloc."
The official Brexit campaign has printed a discredited claim about the EU in 2ft-high letters on the side of a massive coach.Boris Johnson trumped through Cornwall with his usual flair this morning as he unveiled Vote Leave's German-made red battle bus.It's taken up entirely by the slogan: "We send the EU £350million a week - let's fund our NHS instead".But there's just one little problem.The £350m figure was branded "potentially misleading" last month in a scathing attack by Britain's data watchdog.
George Osborne will warn that he would have to fill the £30bn black hole in public finances triggered by a vote to leave the European Union by hiking income tax, alcohol and petrol duties and making massive cuts to the NHS, schools and defence.
In a sign of the panic gripping the remain campaign, the chancellor plans to say that the hit to the economy will be so large that he will have little choice but to tear apart Conservative manifesto promises in an emergency budget delivered within weeks of an out vote.
He said he will not share at platform with David Cameron because he is "making a completely different argument".
Appearing on the Channel 4 comedy show The Last Leg, he said "[Mr Cameron] wants a Europe for the free market, he wants a Europe dominated by global corporations. I suspect he wants to sign the Transatlantic Investment Partnership.
Also arm wrestling:
Nigel Farage has refused to apologise for a widely condemned “Breaking Point” poster showing a vast queue of refugees stretching into the distance.
It comes after the Ukip leader was accused of adopting Nazi style propaganda tactics to help win the EU referendum. The poster Mr Farage unveiled showed refugees on the Slovenian border - part of Europe's passport-free Schengen area.
Next to the billboard was the headline “Breaking Point” and underneath it “the EU has failed us all”.
The Labour MP Jo Cox has died after being shot and stabbed multiple times following a constituency meeting. Armed officers responded to the attack near a library in Birstall, West Yorkshire, on Thursday afternoon. A 52-year-old man was arrested in the area, police confirmed. The suspect was named locally as Tommy Mair.
Police added that Cox, 41, the MP for Batley and Spen, had suffered serious injuries and was pronounced dead at 1.48pm on Thursday by a doctor with paramedics at the scene.
Police confirmed that a man in his late 40s to early 50s nearby suffered slight injuries in the incident. They are also investigating reports that the suspect shouted “Britain first”, a possible reference to the far-right political party of that name, as he launched the attack. Police are understood to be talking to at least one witness who claimed to have heard the attacker shout the words, and the motivation for the incident will form part of their inquiry.
Ruth Davidson's performance on Tuesday's The Great Debate [iPlayer link]
John Oliver joins the battle [LANGUAGE WARNING]
Independent fact checkers:
This thread will be for us to talk about the vote and - in the days to come - its aftermath. It's also a place for anybody outside Britain to ask questions and find out what the hell is going on.
Brits: Let us know how you voted!
Non-Brits: Sit back and watch the fireworks!
Edited by Shenanigans, 09 June 2017 - 12:35 AM.