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@  unluckiness : (22 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nah, they could tell by the lack of the very distinctive dialogue delivery. They just didn't want to be mean.

@  Dracula : (22 August 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Moon base is fine. I knew the castle was a total loss so I gave Olrox my best cape and told him he could have the throne room. The damn belmonts couldn't tell the difference

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 06:39 AM)

It's probably because that's a direct quote rather than an attempt to self censor

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 August 2017 - 06:26 AM)

"shit" isn't filtered anymore

@  Donocropolis : (22 August 2017 - 05:51 AM)

Elvis doesn't do sh*t.

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 03:38 AM)

Fine, though Elvis has a bit of a headache.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 August 2017 - 03:27 AM)

How's his moon base?

@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever


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#41 M Sipher

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:03 PM

Well, with Lugnut his clip-on domes are replaced with those "tubines" introduced in the AOE kits. Hoist's hollow-ring "hook" got replaced by a similar but noticably different piece. Both you can see in my comparison pics and are pretty easy to spot.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 07:07 PM

Ah, I got it now.

 

My 52431 Hoist and Lugnut both have original part loadouts and hybrid arms. No hue differences between these and originals that I could spot.

 

(...I could probably stand to have some better light, though...)


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Posted 30 May 2016 - 04:43 PM

........is there any chance you might be able to find the Kreon Warrior blindbags? They never showed up Stateside. I still need like seven of those to complete the set.

If I could piggyback on this, that is something I'd be interested in as well.  I don't have any of the Warrior blindbags.   :(
 
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Posted 30 May 2016 - 06:50 PM

All this Kre-O talk makes me lament the discontinuation of Schyling's Lego minifigure cases. I still have a good deal of micro changers and the AOE combiners to include.

On that note, I am missing the Ratchet from the AOE Dino hauler set in the AOE 'section' (top row, blue case). Had to settle for the 'custom kreon'.

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 12:20 AM

Your local stores may vary, but Five Below carries/carried these clear-plastic separator bins that are PERFECT for Kreons, Lego Minifigures, and the like. 13 compartments that can hold like 3 or 4 minis each (depending on accessories), and one large 2-tall tray.

 

And they cost a whopping $3.

 

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Again, these haven't been shipping new in a long time, but some stores may still have them.

 

 

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Posted 31 May 2016 - 11:59 AM

Your local stores may vary, but Five Below carries/carried these clear-plastic separator bins that are PERFECT for Kreons, Lego Minifigures, and the like. 13 compartments that can hold like 3 or 4 minis each (depending on accessories), and one large 2-tall tray.

 

And they cost a whopping $3.

 

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Again, these haven't been shipping new in a long time, but some stores may still have them.

 

 

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I use those same ones. You can buy them at Michael's for between $3 and $4 if Five Below doesn't have them. 


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Posted 31 May 2016 - 02:03 PM

Great for storage, but not display. Of course like hell i'd be able to fit most of my Kre-O Joes in those Lego cases because of their guns.
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Posted 06 June 2016 - 04:43 PM

Okay, over the downtime, I went looking for Colelction 1 the next big city over, and nope. So gonna need to buy/trade for those. However, I bear odd news of Collection 4!

 

Apparently the UPC/stamp-codes for the new-body Kreons is also used by series 4 (which are still dated 2013 in the legal info), which I found at Dollar General then at several Walgreens stores. The bodies are the old style but have some deco changes.

Cyclonus is back to lavender, but with painted-purple cuffs, making him match the stock imagery/instructions, rather than the lavender cuffs of that once-rareish variant. Slipstrike also has brighter lavender accents on her torso than the original.

 

I'm now left wondering what other changes may or have not been made to Collection 4 in the changeover, and am quite possibly stupid enough to try and bag-feel them all to check. Iceberg's stock images seem to make some of his chest tampos dark red rather than the final gray, so perhaps that's one change I'll find. At the very least, this assortment has a good number of interesting parts in interesting colors, good for my spares for digibashing.

 

Also, I'm wondering if there's a no-individual-stamp-codes version of Collection 3 somewhere.

 

The rabbit hole just gets deeper...

 

 

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 06:28 AM

Are any of these waves the one that had Jetwash in it? If so, any comparison shots?



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 04:07 PM

ill take that cyclonus,...

 

also, any chance someone can pick me up one or 2 of the Microchangers combiners 3 pack? I checked both dollar generals and they had everything but that and the wave 2 and 4 stuff.


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Posted 07 June 2016 - 05:58 PM

Are any of these waves the one that had Jetwash in it? If so, any comparison shots?

 

Nope, Jetwash was from the first series of AOE Micro-Changers, which was (at least in the US) TRU-only at first. These showed up later at Five Below, but were still the old initial run with the bag-codes.

 

 

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Posted 08 June 2016 - 06:05 AM

Yeah, I have to say, I just received the "Class of 1985" set the other day, and I'm amazed at the quality difference between these and the earlier bodies.  It's a shame that so many transformers lines always seem to end right around the time the designers are really getting into their groove.



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Posted 19 June 2016 - 03:15 PM

Minor update. No news on new releases we don't know about, but something I discovered about the 2015-mold guys...

 

These new tampographs are a LOT tougher. I've been using Sculpey to loosen the tampographs on old extras to make some "blanks" of various colors for custom imagery. It's a nice trick: press a bit to the tampo, leave for a few hours, come back, peel, and the paint, if it doesn't come off with the Sculpey, is loosened and can be removed with a tissue and a bit of vigorous rubbing. (Goo Gone on a q-tip also helps but may also remove a bit of plastic sheen.)

 

I tried this on a spare-spare Rampage head, and that tampo ain't budging, and it was left in the Sculpey overnight. Not even any paint on the Sculpey when pulled away. Hm.

 

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 12:52 AM

Resurrection:

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Shawn has comparison pics, and I imagine he'll post 'em here at some point.
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Posted 09 February 2017 - 12:56 AM

I was simultaneously longing for and dreading this.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:58 PM

Checked a half-dozen Walgreenses on the way home... no Series 3, but Series 1 in the 2015 style has popped up there as well. Huh.

 

 

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:09 PM

Here are (crappy) pics...first is a date code, plus Guzzle's new name.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:15 PM

Nothing notable on Cheetor's front, but his back now has spots


Thrust's chest details are now silvery instead of grey, and his leg tampos are shorter.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:18 PM

Long Haul's chest and leg details are quite altered, and his cab brick now has no window.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:20 PM

Beachcomber's changes are fairly obvious.  The new blue is a bit lighter.

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