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@  unluckiness : (19 June 2018 - 08:33 AM)

I can dig it

@  unluckiness : (19 June 2018 - 08:21 AM)

So Thunderbolts with giant robots?

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Thundercracker, in particular.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Some of the Decepticons start to really enjoy being the good guys. Well, they enjoy the act, at least. They find fulfillment in their assumed personas.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Except SHockwave eventually betrays his teammates and teams up with Skynet.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Starscream becomes the young, eager Nightscream, and so on.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

Megatron becomes the noble Megabolt, taking cues from Beast Wars Silverbolt.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

A Thunderbolts-esque masquerade.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

In order to do so, the Decepticons pretend to be the good guys and take on different personas.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:18 PM)

So Megatron decides that hey, the Autobots are stillback on Cybertron, so why not team up with the humans, defeat Skynet, then double-cross the humans?

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

Unfortunately, the Skynet/humans war is already going on, and Skynet is evolving rapidly.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

The Decepticons discover Earth and want to plunder its resources.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

It would have a really crazy twist:

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

I've had this crazy idea for a Transformers/Terminator crossover for years.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:20 PM)

Specifically I'd like to see Skynet's army rise up against him (he did refer to them as an "army of slaves" in Genisys), or even perhaps a peace-minded iteration of Skynet that's existed in a humanoid form long enough to gain some compassion for the human point of view

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:19 PM)

A peaceful resolution would be satisfying for me (it's the only resolution possible in The Matrix series, too), but I think the majority of Terminator fans would walk out think WTF?

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:15 PM)

I liked Clarke as Sarah as well, although I read a lot of complaints online that she looked too young, but I thought she was pretty badass.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 June 2018 - 05:11 PM)

I think across these movies, there's a very compelling story about a progressive temporal arms race driven by mutual fear in which Judgement Day keeps getting pushed back, which only gives both sides more time for technological development, and the only true resolution to it is cooperation. But cooperation will never come about because each side fears being wiped out by the other.

@  Paladin : (18 June 2018 - 05:05 PM)

Genisys basically made Sara Connors' entire motivation in stopping judgement day stem from not wanting to sleep with Jai Courtney. and really, can you blame her?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 June 2018 - 03:52 PM)

I'll give Genisys another thing, Emilia Clarke made a damn good Linda Hamilton. (As for Jai Courtney looking nothing like Michael Biehn, that just supports my theory that it's not always the same "Kyle Reese" sent back which would explain why John Connor looks different in almost every movie.)

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2018 - 02:54 PM)

I'm not, I'm lost in music.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 June 2018 - 12:59 PM)

What, again?

@  2018 : (18 June 2018 - 06:33 AM)

It's a time warp. We're trapped in the past.

@  Pennpenn : (18 June 2018 - 05:44 AM)

A rick roll? Really?

@  Waspinator : (17 June 2018 - 11:03 PM)

On the subject of a Mega Man movie

@  Msol : (17 June 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Man I really wish Slash was blue instead of red. Swoop looks off as the only blue one. What a missed opportunity!

@  Otaku : (17 June 2018 - 04:23 PM)

@Bass X0 So, getting back to Mega Man as a movie and smart-aleck answers, wouldn't Astroboy (2009) count? ;) Otherwise, I'm torn; part of me is glad they haven't tried given Hollywood's track record.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2018 - 01:52 PM)

and some TV show...

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2018 - 01:35 PM)

John Connor?! John Connor! JOHN CONNORRRRR!!!!

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 12:26 PM)

Pretty sure that's what happened to John Connor in that last one

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2018 - 12:17 PM)

you eat them.... THEY EAY YOU

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2018 - 11:57 AM)

Nanomachines, son!

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2018 - 11:49 AM)

@Nevermore Rice of fhe Macheens: taking over the world with evil robots the size of rice grains.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 11:36 AM)

It eventually goes off the rails, but the bones of an interesting story are there. I enjoyed it more than Rise of the Machines or Salvation

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 11:26 AM)

There was Genysis, Jujjmend Dae, Salvayshon and Rice of the Macheens, or something.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 11:25 AM)

I actually re-watched Genisys the other day, and I'll give it one thing. The beginning of the movie with the pre-Terminator 1 future scenes all looked really fantastic.

@  Xellos : (17 June 2018 - 11:08 AM)

Five, actually, with a sixth in development. Varying degrees of cannonicity between them, though.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2018 - 07:59 AM)

There was only two movies, right?

@  Paladin : (17 June 2018 - 07:08 AM)

overall, lousy. there's one great one, one pretty good one and everything else under that brand sucks.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 June 2018 - 06:52 AM)

uuuhhh, what do you think the terminator movies are?

@  Bass X0 : (17 June 2018 - 06:35 AM)

Why has Mega Man never been given a Hollywood movie?

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:32 AM)

Considering at least half our workforce is not of "German" descent, racism should really have no place at our workplace.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:23 AM)

The one thing that really fascinated me was how he was so adamant that his kids have to learn German that he insisted on only speaking German at home. I'm not saying that this is the one true way to do it, but I did respect him for that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:22 AM)

Always cheerful, always friendly. Leaves behind a wife and three kids.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:21 AM)

I'd have done this either way, but in this case it particularly pissed me off because the deceased coworker was literally the nicest person you could possibly hope to meet.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2018 - 04:18 AM)

He deserved it to be suspended. What an imbecile.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:17 AM)

****ing disgusting racist.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:16 AM)

Guy was immediately suspended from work.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:16 AM)

He literally said in my face "they only make a big fuss because that token negro died". I said "dude, what are you saying?" He said "my parent taught me to say what I think." I said "bad enough for you to think like that." and then reported him.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:15 AM)

So I told this other longtime employee that I was planning to go to the funeral, and he went on a tirade about how "other people had died too", and this was only treated as a big deal because this guy was black.


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#1 M Sipher

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:15 PM

Okay so I got a batch of blindbagged Micro-Changers off ebay cheap, intending to use them for spare parts. But now I can't.

 

Because apparently they were from the dollar-store re-release of wave 1, without the ID numbers for individual Kreons, and they are VERY different from the originals.

 

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First of all, they use the 2015 style Kreon bodies, in which damn near every piece has been retooled. They have the hollow waist-peg with the inner-peg in the torso, the raised-ridge hands, the slightly-different balljoint sizes, etc.

 

And the tampographs have changed. Many of them are more complex than the originals, adding more lines to the faces and reworking the chest details, sometimes with new colors. Plus they've all now got new tampographs on their legs.

 

And finally, they all come with the 3x4 "KRE-O" stand plate rather than the old 2x4 brick.

 

While this kicks my general plan of using them for spare parts in the teeth (the different balljoint tolerances and waist connectors make a lotta parts incompatible), this is... an unexpected change. I only have Collection 1, but now I think I need to see what changes got made to 2 through 4.

 

 

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:29 PM

Oh, I need to point out that it looks like this ONLY applies to the Micro-Changer blindbags. The handful of boxed sets I've gotten from these stores all use the old style of Kreon, even the Micro-Changer Combiner set.

 

 

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

Weird stuff. I'm kinda glad I'm selling off my collection. I'd probably want to nab these.



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Posted 19 May 2016 - 08:32 PM

I'm still looking for old-style Kreons for parts.


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Posted 19 May 2016 - 11:53 PM

Man, the new tampos are kinda nice.

 

This is all kinds of weird though. 



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 03:06 AM

Okay, I've conformed that Collection 2 is similarly changed. New Kreon bodies.

 

The two I got, Powerglide and Scourge, are not as extensively changed in the tampo area, since they already had more complex decos and leg-tampos, but there ARE changes. The flat light gray paint is now shiny silver. The faction symbols are in color and white-outlined. PG has a little more black outlining on his torso. Also for some reason his head is silver plastic rather than light gray.

 

There's also a sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight change to the plastic hues in some cases. The light gays are now a bit more on the blue side of gray.

 

 

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:02 AM

Interesting!  I love me some Kreons, and I might be tempted to replace old ones with better ones if they are better enough.  Any chance of a side-by-side for the ones you've picked up?



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:42 AM

I had no idea they were re-releasing the first four waves. I thought they just re-did one of them. That's really weird. 

 

Siph, I was gonna unload them for $5 a piece. Dunno if that's cheap or not, but I have pics if you're interested. 



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:19 PM

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:32 PM

Interesting!  I love me some Kreons, and I might be tempted to replace old ones with better ones if they are better enough.  Any chance of a side-by-side for the ones you've picked up?

I put a couple quick pics up on Twitter but for some reason getting pics from twitter onto here is... unpleasant.

I'll take nicer pics when I get home from work, which should hopefully include some series 3 bots.

And it looks like the Walgreens series 4 Kreons without individual codes are NOT part of this remaking. The sample fig I got last night is the same old-style Kreon as before.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:34 PM

Still lots of places to check, but I've got a good representative sample of Collection 2 now.

 

The deco changes are nowhere as extensive as they are for Collection 1. The faces have no extra lines. Some have a little more or a little less black outlining. A few have slight color changes beyond the gray-to-silver, but nothing I'd call major. All factions symbols are in their proper colors now, and usually (but not always) with a white outline.

 

Not every piece has gone through the same tone-shift in colors, so part that are SUPPOSED to be the same color in the same set can be a bit off from each other.

 

Lugnut has those new clip-on turbines from the AOE era sets rather than the rounded warhead-like clip-on things.

 

Pics coming in a bit.

 

 

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:36 PM

The light gays are now a bit more on the blue side of gray.

Y'know, there's a Tracks joke in there somewhere...


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:54 PM

I liked the story of the Light Gays warring against the Dark Straights. Pity it got retconned in favout of the Gaymus vs Heterocron narrative.

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:03 PM

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:34 PM

Thank you!

 

Some definitely are improvements in there.  What stores are you finding these in?



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:54 PM

.... oh dang. I somehow skipped that part. Dollar General and Family Dollar.

Also, the one Series 4 bag I found at Family Dollar was an old style. I didn't open it, I found the 2x4 stand brick through the bag.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:59 PM

Wow. There are some significant improvements there!



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:50 PM

Havin' a time of it, seeing Perceptor's difference... /shrug

Spent some time around the immediate area and wound up with two complete sets of Collection 2 plus extras (because the unmolested display was my SECOND stop, aargh) and a need to play FEEL THE PARTS with Collection 1 because that's just the way my luck runs.

If anyone winds up in a buy/sell/trading mood, I need 1 Insecticon, 2 Dirge, and 2 Airachnid from Collection 1. I've got 1 Blight, 1 Vehicon, 1 Lugnut and 2 Hoist from Collection 2 to use for exchange or eventual sale.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 04:10 AM

Havin' a time of it, seeing Perceptor's difference... /shrug

 

Well, there's the default "flat gray paint is now silver". His tummy-mirror also now lacks the black outline for reasons unknown. And his toes are black rather than light blue.

 

 

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