Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I'm genuinely amused/impressed, even if it wasn't intentional.

@  Benbot : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

That's a lot of shouting

@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Wow, Bass, your post took up the entire Shoutbox exactly without being over/under a line.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM)

The best Marvel issue is, was, and always will be Decepticon Graffiti. The Battlechargers are awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (01 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

ReGeneration was criticised for being too slow paced and drawn out way too long, yet the Decepticon leaders are introduced and dispatched just to tick the box that they made an appearance. I also preferred the single stand alone stories from the original Marvel comics instead of each issue having like four different plots running through it, which didn't make for satisfying reading IMO. If a writer is writing for a trade, don't release individual issues. I also thought the artwork was poor - before, the Marvel comics tried to have the best artwork they could at the time, whereas now they were intentionally limiting themselves to appear "retro", and it shows. The pacing was the worst though, some characters just stand around doing nothing to progress their part of the story, like Shockwave's segments. In contrast, compare any six consecutive issues from the Marvel comics and a whole lot more happens than in RG1. Furman also fell into his pattern of wasting space world building and pointless scenes when the story had to end at #100.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:10 PM)

Even then, Furman's material never really had a huge toy-push aspect to it, other than "here's new character!"

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Considering it was a wrap-up for a story whose toyline had ended anyway, I feel like it worked out well enough. I mean, the last major iteration did play an important part in things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

New comics didn't need to shill any toys at all...so there wasn't any push to do weird and different things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:03 PM)

The big problem is that stuff like the old comics were produced under the idea of shilling toys...which ultimately resulted in a lot of the weirdness people remember

@  Rycochet : (01 March 2017 - 02:01 PM)

He was hired to write an exercise in nostalgia and that's what he produced.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 01:38 PM)

Speaking of Marvel, finally read the rest of ReGeneration One, thanks to a Comixology sale. I... don't understand the hate.

@  lastmaximal : (28 February 2017 - 09:09 PM)

Works for some, not all. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trademark

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 08:57 PM)

Yeah, making it "Autobot X" seems to be their way of getting around many of those issues with overly generic terms

@  Rycochet : (28 February 2017 - 08:41 PM)

Hasbro would just call the toys Marvel's Thunderstrike or Autobot/Decepticon Thunderstrike.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 08:19 PM)

D.C. owns Bumblebee and they've made toys of her, so if a Mattel licensee can share names with a TF...

@  Telly : (28 February 2017 - 07:42 PM)

doesnt marvel own that? i know theyve got the comic character, not sure about the name for toys though. there ever been a thunderstrike figure? would it even be in the same area as a tf name?

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:38 PM)

You know, "Thunderstrike" would actually be a pretty kickass TF name! Surprised it's never been used!

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:27 PM)

Thunderstruck.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:25 PM)

How about Thunderblust? http://gatherer.wiza...iverseid=157411

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:23 PM)

Or Shockburninator, who turns into a satellite and a dragon.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Burninationblastatron

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

It's Thunderblast, but she turns into a wingaling dragon instead of "transforming" into a boat.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Thunderburninator.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:20 PM)

You need to get "blast" in there somewhere

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 11:26 AM)

THATCH-ROOF COTTAGEEEEEEEEES

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2017 - 03:06 AM)

Only if the packaging looks like a thatch-roofed cottage.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 09:27 PM)

They need to make a dragonbot named "Burninatron."

@  BlackMax : (27 February 2017 - 09:15 PM)

I find upcoming Last Knght's Steelbane sexy. A very Skyrim name for a giant robot who is also a dragon? Be still my heart.

@  MEDdMI : (27 February 2017 - 06:24 PM)

I never found most Hollywood heartthrobs sexy, even if they were around my age. I think I knew even back then that the char they play doesn't reflect how the actor really looks/behaves.

@  Rycochet : (27 February 2017 - 06:11 PM)

The only thing I've seen with Megan Fox in is the Jonah Hex movie... She was bad, but everyone and everything was bad.

@  RichardT1977 : (27 February 2017 - 05:53 PM)

Modern western culture, ladies and gentlemen...

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:50 PM)

Ha! You can't fool a true Z-block afficionado like me! That's actually an S-block viewed from behind!

@  The Doctor Who : (27 February 2017 - 04:36 PM)

*unveils a Tetris Z-Block in moody lighting* Not at aaaaall?

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:27 PM)

That would be silly.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Because I definitely wasn't. Nope. Not at all.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Am I the only straight male Nintendo fan who was never strangely aroused by the Tetris Z-block?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Her acting makes her come across as a living Pat Lee illustration.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:27 PM)

No. No, you're not.

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 01:26 PM)

And am I the only straight male Transformers fan who never found Megan Fox attractive?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:21 PM)

Especially since she's the same age as my parents.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:19 PM)

It's like I instinctually knew that by the time I watched the movies, it'd be weird since IRL she was way older than me.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:18 PM)

Am I, like, the only straight male Star Wars fan who never had a thing for Leia?

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 12:44 PM)

Call the police!

@  Paladin : (27 February 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Kubo got robbed. TWICE.

@  Lazy Garou : (27 February 2017 - 08:10 AM)

god! Thrawn is awesome.he's got super detective skills!

@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.


Photo
- - - - -

"Dollar store" Kreon Micro-Changers: new bodies & tampographs!


74 replies to this topic

#1 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:15 PM

Okay so I got a batch of blindbagged Micro-Changers off ebay cheap, intending to use them for spare parts. But now I can't.

 

Because apparently they were from the dollar-store re-release of wave 1, without the ID numbers for individual Kreons, and they are VERY different from the originals.

 

 2015 kreon comp.jpg

 

First of all, they use the 2015 style Kreon bodies, in which damn near every piece has been retooled. They have the hollow waist-peg with the inner-peg in the torso, the raised-ridge hands, the slightly-different balljoint sizes, etc.

 

And the tampographs have changed. Many of them are more complex than the originals, adding more lines to the faces and reworking the chest details, sometimes with new colors. Plus they've all now got new tampographs on their legs.

 

And finally, they all come with the 3x4 "KRE-O" stand plate rather than the old 2x4 brick.

 

While this kicks my general plan of using them for spare parts in the teeth (the different balljoint tolerances and waist connectors make a lotta parts incompatible), this is... an unexpected change. I only have Collection 1, but now I think I need to see what changes got made to 2 through 4.

 

 

M "Admittedly Series 4 Probably Didn't Get New Tampos, Those Were Fairly Complex" Sipher


Edited by M Sipher, 19 May 2016 - 05:24 PM.

The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#2 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:29 PM

Oh, I need to point out that it looks like this ONLY applies to the Micro-Changer blindbags. The handful of boxed sets I've gotten from these stores all use the old style of Kreon, even the Micro-Changer Combiner set.

 

 

M "Which Is WEIRD Given The Changes Made To Some Of The Kreons In That One" Sipher


The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#3 Robowang

Robowang

    Nard Extractor

  • Supporter
  • 2844 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Your subconscious
  • Faction::Vehicon

Posted 19 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

Weird stuff. I'm kinda glad I'm selling off my collection. I'd probably want to nab these.



#4 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 19 May 2016 - 08:32 PM

I'm still looking for old-style Kreons for parts.


M "Which Admittedly Means 'Buy On The Cheap' But..." Sipher
The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#5 lastmaximal

lastmaximal

    Cyber Key Power...linx!

  • Citizen
  • 11719 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Philippines
  • Faction::Minicon

Posted 19 May 2016 - 11:53 PM

Man, the new tampos are kinda nice.

 

This is all kinds of weird though. 



SO OKAY IT'S AVERAGE
Virtually every custom as good as the title suggests!
SoOkayItsAverage.2.gif


#6 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 20 May 2016 - 03:06 AM

Okay, I've conformed that Collection 2 is similarly changed. New Kreon bodies.

 

The two I got, Powerglide and Scourge, are not as extensively changed in the tampo area, since they already had more complex decos and leg-tampos, but there ARE changes. The flat light gray paint is now shiny silver. The faction symbols are in color and white-outlined. PG has a little more black outlining on his torso. Also for some reason his head is silver plastic rather than light gray.

 

There's also a sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight change to the plastic hues in some cases. The light gays are now a bit more on the blue side of gray.

 

 

M "All In All... Yeah, This Is Weird, But The Variant Archivist In Me Is Delighted" Sipher


The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#7 Donocropolis

Donocropolis

    Broom broom!

  • Citizen
  • 2858 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The center of the Earth
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:02 AM

Interesting!  I love me some Kreons, and I might be tempted to replace old ones with better ones if they are better enough.  Any chance of a side-by-side for the ones you've picked up?



#8 Robowang

Robowang

    Nard Extractor

  • Supporter
  • 2844 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Your subconscious
  • Faction::Vehicon

Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:42 AM

I had no idea they were re-releasing the first four waves. I thought they just re-did one of them. That's really weird. 

 

Siph, I was gonna unload them for $5 a piece. Dunno if that's cheap or not, but I have pics if you're interested. 



#9 Defensis Prime

Defensis Prime

    Multiversal Singularity-haters = puppykickers who belong on Junk

  • Citizen
  • 1780 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Neenah WI twitter.com/DefensisPrime
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:19 PM

ah hellballz


-- L A S E R AUTOBOT LEADER DEFENSIS PRIME : Psychotic Completist®
"...Transformers should have retina-searing colorschemes--your eyes bleed after one glance..."

#10 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:32 PM

Interesting!  I love me some Kreons, and I might be tempted to replace old ones with better ones if they are better enough.  Any chance of a side-by-side for the ones you've picked up?

I put a couple quick pics up on Twitter but for some reason getting pics from twitter onto here is... unpleasant.

I'll take nicer pics when I get home from work, which should hopefully include some series 3 bots.

And it looks like the Walgreens series 4 Kreons without individual codes are NOT part of this remaking. The sample fig I got last night is the same old-style Kreon as before.


M "Which Is Simultaneously A Disappointment And A Relief" Sipher
The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#11 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:34 PM

Still lots of places to check, but I've got a good representative sample of Collection 2 now.

 

The deco changes are nowhere as extensive as they are for Collection 1. The faces have no extra lines. Some have a little more or a little less black outlining. A few have slight color changes beyond the gray-to-silver, but nothing I'd call major. All factions symbols are in their proper colors now, and usually (but not always) with a white outline.

 

Not every piece has gone through the same tone-shift in colors, so part that are SUPPOSED to be the same color in the same set can be a bit off from each other.

 

Lugnut has those new clip-on turbines from the AOE era sets rather than the rounded warhead-like clip-on things.

 

Pics coming in a bit.

 

 

M "Also If I Get One More Scourge By Mistake I'll... Well, Deal With It I Suppose" Sipher


The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#12 ShadowMan024

ShadowMan024

    The Twentiest... Whatever that means.

  • Citizen
  • 20450 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida
  • Faction::Cannonball's Pirate Crew

Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:36 PM

The light gays are now a bit more on the blue side of gray.

Y'know, there's a Tracks joke in there somewhere...


Edited by ShadowMan024, 20 May 2016 - 06:44 PM.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


There are days when the wind doesn't feel like wind so much as it's a swarm of invisible wraiths shrieking and tearing and clawing at everything.

#13 Broadside

Broadside

    pchoo! pchoo!

  • Citizen
  • 6202 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:England
  • Faction::Cannonball's Pirate Crew

Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:54 PM

I liked the story of the Light Gays warring against the Dark Straights. Pity it got retconned in favout of the Gaymus vs Heterocron narrative.

NBgKWg5.png


#14 ShadowMan024

ShadowMan024

    The Twentiest... Whatever that means.

  • Citizen
  • 20450 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida
  • Faction::Cannonball's Pirate Crew

Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:03 PM

Homobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Heteronormativicons.


Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


There are days when the wind doesn't feel like wind so much as it's a swarm of invisible wraiths shrieking and tearing and clawing at everything.

#15 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

Col1-Auto2015comp.jpg

 

Col2-Auto2015comp.jpg

 

Col2-Dec2015comp.jpg

 

 

M "Just Showing The Essentials" Sipher


The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#16 Donocropolis

Donocropolis

    Broom broom!

  • Citizen
  • 2858 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The center of the Earth
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:34 PM

Thank you!

 

Some definitely are improvements in there.  What stores are you finding these in?



#17 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:54 PM

.... oh dang. I somehow skipped that part. Dollar General and Family Dollar.

Also, the one Series 4 bag I found at Family Dollar was an old style. I didn't open it, I found the 2x4 stand brick through the bag.


M "Will Try Other Places, Not Found Series 3 Yet But Saw Em In The Past" Sipher
The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert

#18 NightViper

NightViper

    Ehhhhh...

  • Retired Staff
  • 38353 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:59 PM

Wow. There are some significant improvements there!



#19 Defensis Prime

Defensis Prime

    Multiversal Singularity-haters = puppykickers who belong on Junk

  • Citizen
  • 1780 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Neenah WI twitter.com/DefensisPrime
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:50 PM

Havin' a time of it, seeing Perceptor's difference... /shrug

Spent some time around the immediate area and wound up with two complete sets of Collection 2 plus extras (because the unmolested display was my SECOND stop, aargh) and a need to play FEEL THE PARTS with Collection 1 because that's just the way my luck runs.

If anyone winds up in a buy/sell/trading mood, I need 1 Insecticon, 2 Dirge, and 2 Airachnid from Collection 1. I've got 1 Blight, 1 Vehicon, 1 Lugnut and 2 Hoist from Collection 2 to use for exchange or eventual sale.

(I really, really miss the codes...I hate feeling up the bags...)
-- L A S E R AUTOBOT LEADER DEFENSIS PRIME : Psychotic Completist®
"...Transformers should have retina-searing colorschemes--your eyes bleed after one glance..."

#20 M Sipher

M Sipher

    Won't you come with me to Music Jail?

  • Citizen
  • 11466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 22 May 2016 - 04:10 AM

Havin' a time of it, seeing Perceptor's difference... /shrug

 

Well, there's the default "flat gray paint is now silver". His tummy-mirror also now lacks the black outline for reasons unknown. And his toes are black rather than light blue.

 

 

M "No Free Time To Check Today, So Some Sunday Runnin' Around" Sipher


The ISLE OF RANGOON - Advantures in Learning and Sarcasm!
Holy crap Sipher has a Tumblr apparently!
http://www.tfwiki.net - We left Wikia before it was cool to do so!

"I don't know whether it's a new thing, but it's certainly a current thing, in that it doesn't seem to matter what facts are. It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
- Stephen Colbert



Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users