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@  RichardT1977 : (28 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

@BlackMax Thank you, Dimitri Martin.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 07:55 PM)

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'... Into the future~♪

@  BlackMax : (28 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

God spelled backwards is dog. Cat spelled backwards is tac. Pterodactyl spelled backwards is really hard to pronounce.

@  Waspinator : (28 April 2017 - 06:46 PM)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 06:12 PM)

you too, eh?

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 05:40 PM)

Well, I don't know about you, but personally I clawed my way free from the corpse of a goat during the autumn equinox.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 05:37 PM)

Yep. Also diseases are painful. And trucks are weird!

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 04:41 PM)

we're all someone's daughters... we're all someone's sons...

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Your creative writing professor is a god, then.

@  Diecast : (28 April 2017 - 03:17 PM)

My creative writing professor read that to my class once, all those years ago.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Sorry, whenever anyone brings up anything related to badfic, I immediately think of Repercussions of Evil.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM)

"No! I must kill the trolls" he shouted. The radio said "No, John. You are the trolls" And then John was a shitposter.

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 02:25 PM)

you lived like a spammer ans died to an moderator

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

He lived a spammer, and died a moderator.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (28 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill posts along with the good and let me be judged accordingly."

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Fool! Snark is my friend! Allow me to introduce you to it!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.


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#1 M Sipher

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:15 PM

Okay so I got a batch of blindbagged Micro-Changers off ebay cheap, intending to use them for spare parts. But now I can't.

 

Because apparently they were from the dollar-store re-release of wave 1, without the ID numbers for individual Kreons, and they are VERY different from the originals.

 

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First of all, they use the 2015 style Kreon bodies, in which damn near every piece has been retooled. They have the hollow waist-peg with the inner-peg in the torso, the raised-ridge hands, the slightly-different balljoint sizes, etc.

 

And the tampographs have changed. Many of them are more complex than the originals, adding more lines to the faces and reworking the chest details, sometimes with new colors. Plus they've all now got new tampographs on their legs.

 

And finally, they all come with the 3x4 "KRE-O" stand plate rather than the old 2x4 brick.

 

While this kicks my general plan of using them for spare parts in the teeth (the different balljoint tolerances and waist connectors make a lotta parts incompatible), this is... an unexpected change. I only have Collection 1, but now I think I need to see what changes got made to 2 through 4.

 

 

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:29 PM

Oh, I need to point out that it looks like this ONLY applies to the Micro-Changer blindbags. The handful of boxed sets I've gotten from these stores all use the old style of Kreon, even the Micro-Changer Combiner set.

 

 

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

Weird stuff. I'm kinda glad I'm selling off my collection. I'd probably want to nab these.



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Posted 19 May 2016 - 08:32 PM

I'm still looking for old-style Kreons for parts.


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Posted 19 May 2016 - 11:53 PM

Man, the new tampos are kinda nice.

 

This is all kinds of weird though. 



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 03:06 AM

Okay, I've conformed that Collection 2 is similarly changed. New Kreon bodies.

 

The two I got, Powerglide and Scourge, are not as extensively changed in the tampo area, since they already had more complex decos and leg-tampos, but there ARE changes. The flat light gray paint is now shiny silver. The faction symbols are in color and white-outlined. PG has a little more black outlining on his torso. Also for some reason his head is silver plastic rather than light gray.

 

There's also a sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight change to the plastic hues in some cases. The light gays are now a bit more on the blue side of gray.

 

 

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:02 AM

Interesting!  I love me some Kreons, and I might be tempted to replace old ones with better ones if they are better enough.  Any chance of a side-by-side for the ones you've picked up?



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:42 AM

I had no idea they were re-releasing the first four waves. I thought they just re-did one of them. That's really weird. 

 

Siph, I was gonna unload them for $5 a piece. Dunno if that's cheap or not, but I have pics if you're interested. 



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:19 PM

ah hellballz


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:32 PM

Interesting!  I love me some Kreons, and I might be tempted to replace old ones with better ones if they are better enough.  Any chance of a side-by-side for the ones you've picked up?

I put a couple quick pics up on Twitter but for some reason getting pics from twitter onto here is... unpleasant.

I'll take nicer pics when I get home from work, which should hopefully include some series 3 bots.

And it looks like the Walgreens series 4 Kreons without individual codes are NOT part of this remaking. The sample fig I got last night is the same old-style Kreon as before.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:34 PM

Still lots of places to check, but I've got a good representative sample of Collection 2 now.

 

The deco changes are nowhere as extensive as they are for Collection 1. The faces have no extra lines. Some have a little more or a little less black outlining. A few have slight color changes beyond the gray-to-silver, but nothing I'd call major. All factions symbols are in their proper colors now, and usually (but not always) with a white outline.

 

Not every piece has gone through the same tone-shift in colors, so part that are SUPPOSED to be the same color in the same set can be a bit off from each other.

 

Lugnut has those new clip-on turbines from the AOE era sets rather than the rounded warhead-like clip-on things.

 

Pics coming in a bit.

 

 

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:36 PM

The light gays are now a bit more on the blue side of gray.

Y'know, there's a Tracks joke in there somewhere...


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:54 PM

I liked the story of the Light Gays warring against the Dark Straights. Pity it got retconned in favout of the Gaymus vs Heterocron narrative.

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:03 PM

Homobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Heteronormativicons.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:34 PM

Thank you!

 

Some definitely are improvements in there.  What stores are you finding these in?



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:54 PM

.... oh dang. I somehow skipped that part. Dollar General and Family Dollar.

Also, the one Series 4 bag I found at Family Dollar was an old style. I didn't open it, I found the 2x4 stand brick through the bag.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:59 PM

Wow. There are some significant improvements there!



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:50 PM

Havin' a time of it, seeing Perceptor's difference... /shrug

Spent some time around the immediate area and wound up with two complete sets of Collection 2 plus extras (because the unmolested display was my SECOND stop, aargh) and a need to play FEEL THE PARTS with Collection 1 because that's just the way my luck runs.

If anyone winds up in a buy/sell/trading mood, I need 1 Insecticon, 2 Dirge, and 2 Airachnid from Collection 1. I've got 1 Blight, 1 Vehicon, 1 Lugnut and 2 Hoist from Collection 2 to use for exchange or eventual sale.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 04:10 AM

Havin' a time of it, seeing Perceptor's difference... /shrug

 

Well, there's the default "flat gray paint is now silver". His tummy-mirror also now lacks the black outline for reasons unknown. And his toes are black rather than light blue.

 

 

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