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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)


@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

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@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.

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New "Watership Down" series coming to Netflix

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#1 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 07:41 PM


Richard Adams beloved noveland the infamously traumatizing 1978 animated adaptationabout a group of rabbits in search of a new home is getting an all-star re-imagining from Netflix and the BBC. In? Better roles for female characters. Out? Apparently, some of the novels shocking moments of brutality.

The BBC has been circling a new adaptation of the 1972 novel since 2014, but todays announcement of a partnership with Netflix will see the four-part CGI series hit the streaming service and UK television simultaneously in 2017. Theres already an incredibly impressive cast associated with the project, including James McAvoy, John Boyega, Sir Ben Kingsley, Gemma Arterton, Nicholas Hoult, and many more.

I can see the desire to tell the WD story without the grisly traumatizing scenes, though I hope this isn't just another "Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark" bowdlerization. I saw a few eps of the Canadian series and they were pretty good.

Boosting up more female characters (including turning one of the male rabbits female) might force a restructuring of the storyline, though. The rabbits escape the humans fairly quickly and then spend the next 3/4ths of the book and movie putting their lives at risk trying to, ah, "liberate" more females. How much of the motivating story will they need to change?

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:01 PM


Out? Apparently, some of the novels shocking moments of brutality.


What, but that's the whole point, traumatizing children!

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:58 PM

I love the book and the moive is good to I even have an artbook of the film


So I look forward to this but it being only 4 parts a lot of the WD mythos and backstory is going on the cutting room floor

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 09:14 PM

Ugh... I never thought it was THAT horrific (The Plague Dogs is MUCH MUCH worse).  It's pretty much how nature is...

What is it going to be; they'll hug out their differences?   Death comes in a puff of freaking glitter?  :puke  

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 09:33 PM

I can see the desire to tell the WD story without the grisly traumatizing scenes,

I cannot.

Seriously. What even is that story without the cringe-inducing violence?


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 09:59 PM

i watched the film when i was little


i just thought it was about cute bunnies



i was wrong


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 10:05 PM

Well not wrong. The movie is about cute bunnies... horrifically killing each other.


I can't see this being successful. The whole reason people really remember Watership down, is becuase of the horrific violence in it. I'd be like makign a Superman movie, but deciding to remove the whole 'alien from another planet with superpowers' thing.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 10:05 PM

i watched the film when i was little

i just thought it was about cute bunnies

i was wrong

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 10:08 PM

This is just gonna end up disappointing the Timmy Turners of the world:


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 10:34 PM

What Canadian series?

Which male bunny will they turn female? I bet it'll be Blackberry or the smart one who figured out the raft idea. I always felt that he was overlooked in the book in favor of the mystical (Fiver?) and the muscle (Big Wig?)



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Posted 29 April 2016 - 06:23 AM

Strawberry. I don't remember what he did, which may be the point.

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 10:39 AM

I loved the book, but not the movie. So this could be good news.

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 10:41 AM

I haven't watched or read water ship doen. But they should make "Warriors" into an animated series. That would traumatized a lot of people!

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 11:32 AM


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 10:03 PM

Well, there already IS a TV series of Watership down. With female characters, too  - Blackberry became a girl, and Hannah the mouse is also quite prominent. Not to mention Primrose, Hazel's mate - she is basically Hyzenthlay from the book with a different name, and a quite larger role in the first two seasons. The story gets a bit dark especially around season 3, but it is nowhere as dark as the movie (which IMHO, is needlessly grimdark compared to the books). I loved the mythology and mysticism it introduced - the books had all the stories and legends of El-ahrairah, the first rabbit, but here we actually see some of the stories come to life, such as the Black Rabbit of Inlé. I actually even own the whole thing on a DVD bundle - and it's not often I purchase a series.


I am all for a new series, though frankly I did imagine some ways they could have continued the old one. Woundwort (voiced by John Hurt) was an amazing villain - you could understand his motivations no matter how harsh his methods were. That was of course before S3 when he pretty much went the way of Galvatron. And hell, the cartoon version of Campion remains one of my favourite animated characters ever. Unlike in the movie where he has what, 2 lines and looks the same as Vervain?


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 02:50 AM

i watched the film when i was little


i just thought it was about cute bunnies



i was wrong


Edited by Smokey, 03 May 2016 - 02:51 AM.