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@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 08:52 PM

(I'm also really glad that they made the "Batman doesn't even know who Joker is" joke.)

Seems more like they had Bats unknowingly equate 'arch-enemy' to 'girlfriend'. :D



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Posted 04 November 2016 - 09:37 PM

So, basically an origin story for a really dweebish Robin and a not-Batgirl Barbara Gordon.


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Posted 05 November 2016 - 04:49 AM

It's neat that this film is willing to casually do stuff like "well, we've got Rosario Dawson voicing her so Batgirl is black, sure."

(Plus the amazing "Two-Face from the parallel universe where Billy Dee Williams didn't get replaced" thing they're doing.)

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 09:42 PM

Is it wrong to be disappointed that there's steam and water that's not made out of bricks in this movie?


In light of the new trailer, I gotta admit the steam and fog gives this movie a good, different feel from TLM.

The water is alright too, I guess brick water might not work in the scenes they need water in.

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 10:44 PM

It's bizarre how I'd much rather DC just stuck to making LEGO superhero movies instead of continuing to plod along with their live-action efforts.  Hopefully there are a few more digs at Batman V Superman in this one.


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 12:09 AM

when alfred was saying bats greatest fear was being part of a family, i started thinking how a lego batman dating movie would be lol


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 02:46 AM

It's neat that this film is willing to casually do stuff like "well, we've got Rosario Dawson voicing her so Batgirl is black, sure."

(Plus the amazing "Two-Face from the parallel universe where Billy Dee Williams didn't get replaced" thing they're doing.)

Black-Latina, from the looks of it (like Rosario herself). Some spoilery LEGO sets show a brown-skinned Gordon, too, as well as Babs in costume. Dunno if they accurately reflect what's going into the movie, but they're a thing that exists.

 

Also worth noting is that this is indeed a sequel to The LEGO Movie, or at least a side-quel. Batman retains his status as a Master Builder.



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Posted 11 November 2016 - 08:30 AM

 

It's neat that this film is willing to casually do stuff like "well, we've got Rosario Dawson voicing her so Batgirl is black, sure."

(Plus the amazing "Two-Face from the parallel universe where Billy Dee Williams didn't get replaced" thing they're doing.)

Black-Latina, from the looks of it (like Rosario herself). Some spoilery LEGO sets show a brown-skinned Gordon, too, as well as Babs in costume. Dunno if they accurately reflect what's going into the movie, but they're a thing that exists.

 

Also worth noting is that this is indeed a sequel to The LEGO Movie, or at least a side-quel. Batman retains his status as a Master Builder.

 

 

How can you even tell with Lego people faces?


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Posted 15 November 2016 - 10:55 PM

 

 

It's neat that this film is willing to casually do stuff like "well, we've got Rosario Dawson voicing her so Batgirl is black, sure."

(Plus the amazing "Two-Face from the parallel universe where Billy Dee Williams didn't get replaced" thing they're doing.)

Black-Latina, from the looks of it (like Rosario herself). Some spoilery LEGO sets show a brown-skinned Gordon, too, as well as Babs in costume. Dunno if they accurately reflect what's going into the movie, but they're a thing that exists.

 

Also worth noting is that this is indeed a sequel to The LEGO Movie, or at least a side-quel. Batman retains his status as a Master Builder.

 

 

How can you even tell with Lego people faces?

 

Only LEGO proprietary characters are yellow. Licensed characters run the gamut of skin tones. A yellow Lando Calrissian would look weird.



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Posted 16 November 2016 - 08:47 AM

 

 

 

It's neat that this film is willing to casually do stuff like "well, we've got Rosario Dawson voicing her so Batgirl is black, sure."

(Plus the amazing "Two-Face from the parallel universe where Billy Dee Williams didn't get replaced" thing they're doing.)

Black-Latina, from the looks of it (like Rosario herself). Some spoilery LEGO sets show a brown-skinned Gordon, too, as well as Babs in costume. Dunno if they accurately reflect what's going into the movie, but they're a thing that exists.

 

Also worth noting is that this is indeed a sequel to The LEGO Movie, or at least a side-quel. Batman retains his status as a Master Builder.

 

 

How can you even tell with Lego people faces?

 

Only LEGO proprietary characters are yellow. Licensed characters run the gamut of skin tones. A yellow Lando Calrissian would look weird.

 

 

Which is all well and good, but what distinguishes just plain Black from Black-Latina so that you can tell?  They all have the same facial features.  A medium-brown Lego could be any number of ethnicities.  What says specifically Black-Latina here?

 

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 10:50 AM

Aside from the tan color, it can only be assumed since Rosario Dawson is doing the voice. (Herself being Irish - Afro Latina)


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 05:41 AM

 

 

 

 

It's neat that this film is willing to casually do stuff like "well, we've got Rosario Dawson voicing her so Batgirl is black, sure."

(Plus the amazing "Two-Face from the parallel universe where Billy Dee Williams didn't get replaced" thing they're doing.)

Black-Latina, from the looks of it (like Rosario herself). Some spoilery LEGO sets show a brown-skinned Gordon, too, as well as Babs in costume. Dunno if they accurately reflect what's going into the movie, but they're a thing that exists.

 

Also worth noting is that this is indeed a sequel to The LEGO Movie, or at least a side-quel. Batman retains his status as a Master Builder.

 

 

How can you even tell with Lego people faces?

 

Only LEGO proprietary characters are yellow. Licensed characters run the gamut of skin tones. A yellow Lando Calrissian would look weird.

 

 

Which is all well and good, but what distinguishes just plain Black from Black-Latina so that you can tell?  They all have the same facial features.  A medium-brown Lego could be any number of ethnicities.  What says specifically Black-Latina here?

 

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Black Lego characters tend to use a darker shade of brown than the tan colour used as a "middle" shade. Compare:

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Batgirl has the lighter tone.


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 07:55 AM

Is that Kanan?  Never realized he was darker.




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Posted 17 November 2016 - 08:55 AM

So if Rosario's Babs is the same shade as Kanan, what exactly makes hers read as Black-Latina other than her voice actress?  Because no one is looking at Kanan and thinking Black-Latino.


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 10:03 AM

Is that Kanan?  Never realized he was darker.

 

Yeah. Which makes it weird that Ezra, who's darker than Kanan in the show, uses the "white" skintone.

 

So if Rosario's Babs is the same shade as Kanan, what exactly makes hers read as Black-Latina other than her voice actress?  Because no one is looking at Kanan and thinking Black-Latino.

 

Because she's not using the "white" skintone that Batgirl traditionally has and the most likely explanation is that it's to match her voice actress?

 

(Oh, and am I the only one who was baffled that people think Kanan's white? His facial features and skintone suggest that he's middle-Eastern or Asian, to me.)


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 10:24 AM

I didn't think white, but wasn't thinking any portion of him was black.

 

I was thinking some kind of Hispanic.  Which when you think of this version of Batgirl it makes sense why he's that color.

 

The whole Batgirl thing makes perfect sense to me though.  I like it.




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Posted 22 November 2016 - 11:11 AM

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Mime, Zodiac Master, Catman, March Harriet, Calculator, Commissioner Gordon, Clan of the Cave Batman, Barbara Gordon, Eraser, Glam Metal Batman
Orca, Fairy Batman, Nurse Harley Quinn, Red Hood, Arkham Asylum Joker, Lobster-Lovin’ Batman, Dick Grayson, Pink Power Batgirl, Vacation Batman, King Tut

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 11:30 AM

Damn they are gonna sell me a lot of blind bags.

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Don't know, Don't know, Carman, Don't know, Calculator, Cm. Gordon, Cave Batman, Barbra Gordon, A Dick Tracy villain?, KISS Batman (!), is that King Shark?, Fairy Princess Batman, Hot Nurse Harley, Red Hood, Prisoner Joker, Hugh Heffner Batman, Robin (do we know for sure which one?) with shark repelant, Batgirl, Pool Batman, King Tut.

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 12:00 PM

Left to right:

Mime, Zodiac Master, Catman, March Harriet, Calculator, Commissioner Gordon, Clan of the Cave Batman, Barbara Gordon, Eraser, Glam Metal Batman
Orca, Fairy Batman, Nurse Harley Quinn, Red Hood, Arkham Asylum Joker, Lobster-Lovin’ Batman, Dick Grayson, Pink Power Batgirl, Vacation Batman, King Tut


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